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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 2:00 am

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In post 1459, ketchup777 wrote: Or are you going to tell us you never looked at the first page of the game Black.

I guess I’ll pose it as a question.

did you ever look at the opening post of this game, Black, or did you just skim past it every time?
If she says she skimmed past it every time, I WILL bust her with her post 838 where it’s clear she copy pasted the list from the first page.

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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 2:34 am

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I mean just in general getting to thread fast seems curious town
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 2:34 am

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Let’s have a look at start of n3
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 2:39 am

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In post 1053, Black wrote:
In post 1047, imaginality wrote: Considering Black commented ( ) on which laid out the remaining setup possibilities, and agreed with my proposed plan was was based in part on the remaining possibilities, I have a super hard time believing Black's is anything other than a clumsy attempt to excuse her certainty that there are exactly two scum remaining.
I didn't read the spoilers in 868
and this post exists
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 2:40 am

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In post 102, ketchup777 wrote: Let’s have a look at start of n3
Black saying she voted Daisy, having a pagelong discussion almost exclusively with Daisy and Daisy ending saying she still townreads Black. hmmm. could be some distancing
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 4:15 am

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why everyone i scumread nowadays gotta try emotinally maniuplate me smh
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 4:40 am

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ok we made it through questioning black
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 4:42 am

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In post 1501, Black wrote:
In post 1485, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1468, Black wrote:
In post 1458, ketchup777 wrote: When you load up the first page of this game, even if you somehow miss the big bold title saying Open…, there’s a nice blue colourful 'Open 913' and a line saying the setup is C9++
In post 1459, ketchup777 wrote: Or are you going to tell us you never looked at the first page of the game Black.

I guess I’ll pose it as a question.

did you ever look at the opening post of this game, Black, or did you just skim past it every time?
I would say about 90% of the time I'm signing up for a game I don't know what type of game I'm signing up for. And yeah it's pretty common for me to overlook small details like that
ok yeah so you didn't look properly at the opening post once? just checking i haven't got something wrong in my head

still mulling which alignment that makes you
Define "properly"

I looked over it for specific mechanics but I didn't pay any attention to the C9+ stuff
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In post 1506, ketchup777 wrote: What specific mechanics do you mean, and whenabouts?
Just the Day/Night stuff mainly
In post 1506, ketchup777 wrote: by properly idk i am just dying to know how you can look at the opening post and not notice we are in open setup, so i assumed you didn't look at it?
I don't pay attention to the setup sometimes. I don't know how many times I have to repeat this? I don't care about the setup
In post 1506, ketchup777 wrote: like when you looking for whose flipped come new day i assume your go-to is the thread not checking the opening post?
Uh what? I mean yeah sometimes I look at the playerlist post at the beginning but when I want to see who has flipped I just go to where the mod posted it...
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 5:03 am

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ok here's how i see it from my pov.

today is going well for me because i'm not being discussed as lim target rn.

i heavily townlean enchant and think enchant/daisy is a nonsensical team that doesn't make sense.

imag dying today will put us into a 3 vs 2 secret voting day.

scum will try not to bus so will have 2 votes together. the vote will end up 3:2, 2:2:1 or 2:3 or 2:1:1:1. with coordination we will hopefully have it in the 2:3 or 3:2.

daisy seems convinced that she will not vote outside halfasleep today. If daisy+ha is scum vs scum, this can be kinda ignored. if daisy and ha are both town, we lose. i don't think enchant/Black is the team either tho tbh based on today's arguments (and from an outside POV i imagine me and black is not a likely pairing either). if OD is scum and HA is town, i have to avoid HA lim.

Enchant/Black
arguing with each other in a not SvS way
Enchant/Daisy
Elements and Daisy interaction and Elements leaving the game not SVS
Enchant/HA maybe? but i townread Enchant
OD/HA These lims might go through.
Black/HA I have to vote HA today, or risk this coming to a coin flip when OD refuses to vote Black
Black/OD Black has gone in to today with some hard bussing; feasible. Black/OD had a nice long distancing conversation at the start of N3 that ended with Daisy thinking Black was town

The simplest way to victory is taking out halfasleep today, but i don't want the simplest, i want the surest. i am going to reread some stuff from a OD/HA pov and see if that is feasible. if it's not, i really want to back myself and try to push black through at any cost

pedit: oh deary me what is happening

was going to post this then thought better of it
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 8:05 am

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In post 1593, ketchup777 wrote: enchant pools ha/daisy
daisy wants ha
black thinks me and enchant are town so pools ha/daisy
ha is forced to self-defend vote daisy
imag dies

i guess it's going to come down to me having to guess the right one of ha/daisy if they're not both scum
ahhhhh

i'll try my hardest
In post 1594, ketchup777 wrote: daisy is not enchant's partner but ha could be
either could be black's partner

as today's lim will be between daisy/ha, i need to assume one of black/enchant is scum for today and work out their likeliest partner, and vote out that partner

hmmm
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sun May 12, 2024 11:06 pm

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If daisy flips scum and someone takes me to ElO with Black and HA it’s going to be a painful painful time
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2024 12:20 pm

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In post 91, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1455, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 591, halfasleep wrote:

(i voted awesomeming if we're claiming votes)
heya can you remember if you’d read anything beyond the flips before posting this halfasleep?
awaiting Halfasleep‘s reply to help sort timestamps and stuff
Having said she 'probably' skimmed the thread, the idea that she read it beforehand and discussed it with scumbuddies can’t be proven
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2024 8:16 pm

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In post 1422, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 1420, halfasleep wrote:
In post 1413, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 1411, Black wrote:
In post 1410, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 1389, Black wrote:
In post 1386, OopsieDaisy wrote: i mean i guess i just gotta get to solving and hope you listen innit. i should sleep tho, come back after i've had a breather and see what i can do.
Show is better than tell! I'm curious why you don't really seem interested in changing halfasleep's mind
cause HA's been reading me evil for days now, I gave my counterpoints to HA and I know I can get tunneled on the person pushing me when put under pressure so I didn't push it any further.
That's fair. Considering she's been scumreading you for awhile how do you feel about him wanting to fade enchant over you?
*she's not he's.

i mean she doesn't want to fade enchant over me, i think pretty clearly now? the only reason she hasn't been more vocal about my read is because she didn't think others would go with it since i've been pretty widely townread across the game (seen in ). i think also fading enchant first helps argue against the enchant/ha world that has been discussed a lot, since she's preferring that lim over me.
i would still be happy to lim enchant first if that's where i could get a consensus. is there a world where you vote enchant over me?
why would i do that lmao
In post 1423, OopsieDaisy wrote: it feels like you two haven't got the support on me that you were expecting so are now pivoting to try and force enchant through.
In post 1556, OopsieDaisy wrote: like i'm sorry but i think the only person you can argue i'm scum with today is halfasleep, whereas halfasleep can be scum with enchant too. it's just a better vote.
In post 1623, OopsieDaisy wrote: i can do enchant if it means i don't die tonight, happy to prove the ha/daisy world doesn't exist through that, but smth tells me the other 3 don't want that lmao
I think this progression from her is pretty terrible
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon May 13, 2024 8:17 pm

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Feeling better about a Black/Daisy world where Daisy felt her best play was refusing to back down on Halfasleep now she’s tryin some last minute flailing
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue May 14, 2024 2:37 am

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please kill me before ElOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

then again, enchant/black/HA might be a loss anyways
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue May 14, 2024 2:38 am

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I suppose an ElO with me and Black in would be interesting to see if Black tries to hedge her bets
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue May 14, 2024 2:39 am

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ElOs, assuming imag dies tonight and OD flips scum:

enchant/black/ketchup (Halfasleep dies)
enchant/HA/ketchup (Black dies)
black/HA/ketchup (Enchant dies)
enchant/black/HA (I die)

will think about how those are likely to play out in a bit, for I imagine scum may well be doing the same
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:17 am

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Day 4 begins.
I townread Alianna.

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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:47 am

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well I vote daisy ofc
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:47 am

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fast night going through makes me feel good that daisy is scum who gave up
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:48 am

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i hope
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:49 am

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So the real question is
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:51 am

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What is our ElO going to be and what would it imply
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:52 am

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In post 119, ketchup777 wrote: fast night going through makes me feel good that daisy is scum who gave up
I‘m pretty sure it was imag holding back fast night anyhow
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed May 15, 2024 3:53 am

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Wait I was worrying about an ElO with me/Enchant/HA/Black but that’s 4 people hmm

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