In post 1079, Super wrote:Nora cares so much about Zyla's read on me
Zyla will be alive tomorrow whereas James will not. I must know if Zyla trusts me because if she doesn't and you are scum, town loses the game due to this fact. Is that hard to understand?
I get that, but you need to understand FMPOV I'm also paranoid so you being that way is worrying for me
and when I say probably I mean.... like.... definitely. cos Nora is playing pretty damn good as either alignment and Unwnd is just absent and not caring ?????
like ideally I want him to post so i can read him in real time for a better read on him but i dont see that happening, idek what deadlines are in this game
also, James. I will say something about Orc that should make u less suspicious of me is the people he pushed on/tried to sway the elim onto. In the game I asked for from Orc as town he states when he is scum and being pushed on he tends to vote to try and push elsewhere - he does this a few times this game (I even pointed this out about Orc on d2) he pushes on Jackson/Catboi/Dum when put under pressure - all three being town (obv from my pov)
Orc tried multiple times to get the vote onto Dum cos Dum was a definite LHF most of this game - only when I subbed in did Orc decide to push elsewhere because my read on him was confusing. I can go into a proper case as to why Orc and I are never partners here but I'm on the exercise bike and am mostly rambling from memory
if you want a legit case as to why I'm town then I will
In post 1104, Super wrote:also, James. I will say something about Orc that should make u less suspicious of me is the people he pushed on/tried to sway the elim onto. In the game I asked for from Orc as town he states when he is scum and being pushed on he tends to vote to try and push elsewhere - he does this a few times this game (I even pointed this out about Orc on d2) he pushes on Jackson/Catboi/Dum when put under pressure - all three being town (obv from my pov)
Orc tried multiple times to get the vote onto Dum cos Dum was a definite LHF most of this game - only when I subbed in did Orc decide to push elsewhere because my read on him was confusing. I can go into a proper case as to why Orc and I are never partners here but I'm on the exercise bike and am mostly rambling from memory
if you want a legit case as to why I'm town then I will
I mean of course I do? There's a blind 1/3 we get scum today, or 1/2 tomorrow, if we can increase the odds for any of you being town reads please do present your case.
In post 1099, Super wrote:I guess it was more that Catboi started the wagon and HEM immediately jumped on it - I guess I can see HEM doing that to distance from his partner and thinking the wagon wouldn't go anywhere... idk. I found that entire switch in vote weird coming from HEM since he literally just was scumreading Catbois slot
What are you trying to say here?
Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE
In post 1079, Super wrote:Nora cares so much about Zyla's read on me
Zyla will be alive tomorrow whereas James will not. I must know if Zyla trusts me because if she doesn't and you are scum, town loses the game due to this fact. Is that hard to understand?
I get that, but you need to understand FMPOV I'm also paranoid so you being that way is worrying for me
I mean it doesn't seem like you are really understanding my POV either XD
Tbh I think you are town but I am paranoid. Really paranoid. Because I worry so much that if you are scum, I'm getting steamrolled tomorrow because zyla isn't really listening to me and I feel like I have no chance of convincing her I'm town over you. So if you are scum, the ONLY way for town to win is to lim you TODAY. Because James does not TR you.
And I mean you keep saying you'd play better as scum. The points that James are bringing up aren't that strong imo. You are playing a very strong game. If you are scum, then your manipulation is strong as hell. I don't think this gets any more manipulative. My entire heart is telling me to vote unwnd and yeet him off the planet asap. But my brain is super paranoid of you. This level of play is high enough as it is. If you mean to say your scum game is better than this, then you'd have to be winning flawless scum wins every time or something which I don't believe is true.
Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE
Fine. You know what. Super, I am going to believe you are town. I'm going to let my heart reign free because it wants to so so badly. Please don't be scum. You will absolutely break my heart.
VOTE: Unwnd
Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE
And Zyla, if Unwnd flips town, which I don't think they will, please realize that if I were scum, I would use James' suspicion towards Super and get her killed today because you would pick me over unwnd but you probably wouldn't pick me over super (in terms of towniness). I am trusting my gut and I believe unwnd is scum. I will not be changing this vote for the rest of today but please do know that if unwnd is not scum, scum is not me. Please make the correct decision tomorrow if there is a tomorrow. You know that James wants super dead but you TR super. If I were scum, I would push super to her death and no one would even blame me tomorrow. I would look like misguided town and unwnd would die tomorrow giving me a scum win. That is why I am not scum here. Please think about this and I'm ready to end the day. This is enough information for even two more days. I don't see a point in doing anything if unwnd is giving up their game.
Thank you.
Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE
I'm not gonna self-vote or anything ridiculous like that. One of you who is scum wants it more than me and that's fairly evident
I did what I had to even if Orctin's death wasn't exactly some grand revelation, a lot of people wanted him and I helped secure that. Am I going to take full credit? Of course not, but I am saying that I'm pretty sure town wins purely by the fact we have two undead PRs. There isn't much else for me to do here and I trust James/Zyla to figure it out
In post 1113, unwnd wrote:I'm not gonna self-vote or anything ridiculous like that. One of you who is scum wants it more than me and that's fairly evident
I did what I had to even if Orctin's death wasn't exactly some grand revelation, a lot of people wanted him and I helped secure that. Am I going to take full credit? Of course not, but I am saying that I'm pretty sure town wins purely by the fact we have two undead PRs. There isn't much else for me to do here and I trust James/Zyla to figure it out
Did I hammer him? I think I eventually just threw my hands up and resolved that was all he was going to do. The only thing that makes me slightly hesitate on my Super vote is that I'm pretty sure Orctin wasn't being coached, and Super has been very active. She seems like someone who would try and help Orctin there (outside of the necessity to bus), which to me was the very distinct option there. I don't want to entirely make my premise on an angle however because 1) Noraa is a very sensitive person to being scumread 2) There isn't indicating timezone differential
