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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:35 am

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1141 is a good point in jdye’s favor, but I’m pretty sure regardless of the scum when we were at 4 I was getting brought to cylo. I think it would make more sense in a scum Jdye to kill cw but I know I can’t really expect scum to act how I would act in the same situation
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:11 am

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Votecount 4.1


[3] Not Voting (cw357, notscience, JDye)

With 3 alive, it is 2 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-31 22:00:00)
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:38 am

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cw357 was prodded.
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:18 am

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I'm going to vote CW in 8 hours. That should give them time to respond to at one thing that has been said today and try to convince me they're town but thats unlikely. Given how inactive both players have been, I don't think there's enough time for a case to be made to convince me to vote notScience here.

@notScience, Before you vote either way, re-read the day and look at who's at least tried to make points and scum-hunt and who's just given nothing responses. I'd say re-read the whole game to see that the pattern continues even there, but given you're busy, I don't expect you to.
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:30 am

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In post 1147, JDye wrote:
In post 1144, cw357 wrote: notscience's silence is troubling to me; i find jdye scummier but if nothing happens with notscience ill be willing to consider putting a vote there
This is scummy. I'm scummier but you'd be willing to vote notscience instead? It's elo....

Just reads like you trying to get me to "compromise". Who gets elimmed doesn't matter as long as it isn't you, right?
uh no

my point was that if notscience kept fence-sitting and disappearing after you and i make a bit of a thunderdome in elo, that's very scummy
atm I find you inherently scummier though

I'm going to look around to make sure that notscience is actually inactive site-wide, at which point it'll be a vote for jdye

aaa im nervous :neutral:
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:38 am

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I'm rereading over and over again and can't really get a firm feeling one way or another

that said I'm still leaning JDye so here goes

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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:39 am

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to elaborate, my feeling against notscience is the disappearance during elo, but everything seems to hold up there

click the iso button on one of my posts to see my reasons against jdye, if you're lazy ask me and i'll quote it
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:45 am

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VOTE: jdye

This was not a fun game. It was too toxic all around and I couldn’t reengage through that and my life being so hectic rn.

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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:23 pm

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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

gj scum, sorry for screwing up
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:37 pm

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Imo I would be happiest if everyone lost this game but I don’t think it’s feasible.

My predecessor literally replaced out from the toxicity. And then we still persisted with name calling and personal attacks. Tempers flare but it just ruins the fun of the game, you know?

And don’t sweat it cw jdye was going to cross you too- a great tactic as scum brought to cylo is to play up paranoia. If I was more available I would have done more to do so.
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:50 pm

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GG. I was town.
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:50 pm

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I mean I pretty much claimed scum by quickhammering you lol
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:36 pm

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Votecount 4.2 (Final)


[2] JDye (cw357, notscience)


[1] Not Voting (JDye)

With 3 alive, it is 2 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

An elimination has been achieved. Flip incoming.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:37 pm

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JDye,
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was eliminated Day 4.


Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
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You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


The game has ended. Win condition incoming.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:40 pm

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cw357,
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was endgamed Day 4.


Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
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You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


notscience,
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Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
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You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


The Mafia team of petapan & notscience win!
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:41 pm

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feel free to post.

uh, a lot to say about this one, which i'll get to.
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:42 pm

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yall deserved that for eliming alonzo

also sesq self hammer was not necessary.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:42 pm

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newbies gonna newb unfortunately its a learning experience :)
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:45 pm

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dead pt: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84545&p=12196802#p12196802

mafia pt can be unlocked w/ scum team's discretion
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:03 pm

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I don’t really care what you do re our pt Bork it’s up to peta

I also made the right call doubling up the actions on dong slot n1 lol.

I see a lot of blaming newbies when town lost as a team lol. Yeah newbies made mistakes but like... cmon

I also see a lot of people saying games are normally this toxic? Literally no. If you find a player who’s toxic you blacklist them and don’t play with them. This is the worst game I’ve been in since I’ve been back hands down.(not Bork you’re great o/).
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 1169, notscience wrote:I don’t really care what you do re our pt Bork it’s up to peta

I also made the right call doubling up the actions on dong slot n1 lol.

I see a lot of blaming newbies when town lost as a team lol. Yeah newbies made mistakes but like... cmon

I also see a lot of people saying games are normally this toxic? Literally no. If you find a player who’s toxic you blacklist them and don’t play with them. This is the worst game I’ve been in since I’ve been back hands down.(not Bork you’re great o/).
well considering 2 of them got banned (:
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:05 pm

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Where to even begin:

1) Specific feedback for newbies (if I don't have any, it's because you got replaced)
a) cw357 - I had to prod you six times. That's twice the number than a lot of mods have in their ruleset. Perhaps you just lost interest but you were pretty obvtown D1 that later dissolved into elimable because of your inactivity. This isn't really a fixable issue if you don't have interest - just letting you know for the future. You seemed really excited at first and then the wind kinda fell out of your sails pretty quick.
b) JDye - your whirl around on petapan was the best thing that happened this game and I was really impressed by your ability to do an honest reassessment of the two slots. You kept town in the game here and it made you look town too.
d) Ranny - nice intuition w/ the track. I think you got really emotionally invested here and I won't rehash any of that. You had some really good insights and you held your own against a scum CC.

2) Things I saw here that shouldn't happen in a newbie game:
a) someone claiming under almost no pressure D1
b) self hammering as town
c) THREE bans almost simultaneously on people in this game, at least one of which I'm convinced was an attempt by one player to harass another due to their crossing paths in this game.

Think long and hard before joining newbie games as an SE. They require some amount of patience - some people here have never played mafia before at all, and most know nothing about site meta. There are other avenues for games if you want to play in a way that is going to derail the experience. Most of all: you caused people to replace out due to toxicity and that is the utter antithesis of what we're trying to get done here - to keep people on the site.

Thank you to everyone who stuck around through all of this, and especially those who replaced in.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 1169, DkKoba wrote:o/
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:08 pm

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You understand the only players who didn’t really have anything to do with it were the people still around d3 lol

And nth Bork. I wish I had more time to devote to this game because I frankly think both teams deserve the L here.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:08 pm

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yes dont claim early unless u really know what ur doing with the claim. i had intentions of flipping the conversation around since it was going in circles around my slot and it was derailing scumhunting and i needed to get pressure elsewhere, and i didnt have the spoons at the time to fight it.
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