open 914: the coalition (this is completed)

[Black]

I understand that a lot of this is simple mech talk that could come from scum but it just reads as genuine to me. We mindmelded in the first quote a bit. The rest of it felt like Moros was thinking about the ramifications of everything in real time

I should have directed the question to Black.

@black: with two votes mind melding with Moros in a row, are there any places the two of you differ in your opinion?

It seems more willing to trust implosion than I am. Other than that I think we both agree on our PoE

[experience]

reading up now.
will post thoughts as i go

So no thoughts?

today ended up busy but yeah, not much thoughts.

[Black]

we could be the first ones to just say "screw the setup" and flip experience for a free scum flip d1

it could be us

Get out of my head!

I don't want to do this

[May]

I really did plan on writing something bigger against May or worst but at this point in the game I feel it’d be a lot of work to go off of circumstantial vibes and I don’t feel like leading a push right now.

What’s up with people mind melding in this game tho?

You should do it anyway

[May]

VOTE: tired person

[May]

I don't think worst is serious about the limming outside coalition thing

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

Loch Leven, by Kyle Bonallo

vote count 1.E !

implosion (3):

Tsawwassen, the worst, tired person

tired person (3):

Moros, Black, May

Moros (1):

implosion

May (1):

DArby

not voting (1):

experience

with 9 alive, it takes 5 of the same vote to Kill someone. day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-05-19 18:32:55)

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[Black]

DArby care to join us on tired person?

[May]

I'm flying to Japan tomorrow btw
I'll be there for two weeks so I plan to try to stay terminally online instead of taking a digital sabbatical

[DArby]

I really did plan on writing something bigger against May or worst but at this point in the game I feel it’d be a lot of work to go off of circumstantial vibes and I don’t feel like leading a push right now.

What’s up with people mind melding in this game tho?

You should do it anyway

I crack immensely under light pressure so you got it.

I've kinda flipped flopped a bit while writing May and I just don't have an opinion on her slot anymore so there's that. It really boiled down to I caught up too quickly and I didn't soak in that May is actually doing shit. In my defense, it was a lot of reading with little confirmed info (ie flips).

The Worst/ceejay I still scumread tho. I'm not going to belabor the points I made last time but 348 is kinda weird. Earlier Black pointed out that ceejay's scum game was different then to which ceejay basically said that he sees it but has nothing to say. That's kinda funny because Black is 100% right. Ceejay was doing more by that games post 164 than this one's 350. That's also an odd response especially considering:

I do remember a prior post where Moros remarked that someone was looking like they were intentionally trying to look like they didn't want to be townread and that was worrying, and the subject of the post responded to it with something along the lines of "I fail to see how that would be worrying"(?)
The reason why it's worrying is because not trying to be townread is a towntell, but intentionally not trying to be townread looks like you're trying to mimic this towntell and that more likely than not comes from scum

isn't it easier to just aim to get townread than to go through this? I don't get it but okay I guess

I'm not sure if this makes sense outside of my head but it feels like:

Black and ceejay played together where ceejay was scum and played a certain kinda way ->
ceejay plays in the opposite way to not ping himself ->
ceejay has an open opportunity to try and get towncred by showing distance between this game and the game with Black where he was scum and intentionally refuses to take it ->
ceejay then misdirects to hint at how scum should actually play

Is there more? Probably. But my break is almost over and I wanted to post something.

[DArby]

DArby care to join us on tired person?

Well my May reads are out so I'll consider it. I don't want anyone to hammer right now so I won't vote at this moment

[tired person]

tired person, do you really only townread me because I didn't seem to care who got coalitioned? isn't that a thin reed? you've seemed adamant

no. as i said, i was townreading you for a multitude of factors, including your overall tone feeling towny, your mindset and progression feeling natural, and also not caring about being townread and not pushing an agenda.

[DArby]

If you were limmed today, what would you want to be final points you’d want people to think of in light of your flip? How do you feel about being put on the block so to speak?

[tired person]

VOTE: implosion

If you think it’s implosion/may, why not just join May?

i don't think it's implosion may. i only explained that i could see it as a possibility, whereas before i couldn't.

[tired person]

If you were limmed today, what would you want to be final points you’d want people to think of in light of your flip? How do you feel about being put on the block so to speak?

to never vote off black, experience, and tas.
to kill implosion.

[tired person]

I’m sorry but could you break down why you this tsa and exp would vote for the coalition with them outside of town if it was established that it would be a bad play for the town?

bc i don't think that experience or tsa are players who look at such things when making decisions.

[tired person]

Would you be willing to vote for tp?

y even? i thought u wanted implosion?

[tired person]

darby u have moros in ur scum pool but never explained why. can u explain y?

[tired person]

I have a new theory that involves you being scum with May, so yeah I think it's highly likely I'll just be going May here

what's the theory

[Black]

Would you be willing to vote for tp?

y even? i thought u wanted implosion?

I could compromise on implosion but currently I'm looking elsewhere. I think the AtE and desire to sway me is affecting me even though it probably shouldn't

I have a new theory that involves you being scum with May, so yeah I think it's highly likely I'll just be going May here

what's the theory

That you two are scum

Something about the way you tried to get me off of her felt weird

[DArby]

darby u have moros in ur scum pool but never explained why. can u explain y?

I spoke about it earlier but I mainly felt it was just speaking more theory then actually helping the town. Now that I’m playing the game I don’t have any strong reads on a good half of the group.

[the worst]

I don't think worst is serious about the limming outside coalition thing

There's like another timeline where I am serious about it but this isn't it

[the worst]

I'm not sure if this makes sense outside of my head but it feels like:

Black and ceejay played together where ceejay was scum and played a certain kinda way ->
ceejay plays in the opposite way to not ping himself ->
ceejay has an open opportunity to try and get towncred by showing distance between this game and the game with Black where he was scum and intentionally refuses to take it ->
ceejay then misdirects to hint at how scum should actually play

Is there more? Probably. But my break is almost over and I wanted to post something.

If there were any stakes I'd be yelling about this read

This does make a lot of sense if you come from a place of having already decided that ceejay's slot is scum. As it stands, I think you're trying to read the slot in earnest, which means this is a kind of wifom-ey confirmation bias argument

Idk feel free to scum case me I love that but you might need to be a bit more focused because I think part of the exercise you're undertaking in this post is trying to convince yourself on the read

[the worst]

Why is tired person being wagonned?

I'm a little nervous that a wagon on May never quite sticks

[DArby]

I'm not sure if this makes sense outside of my head but it feels like:

Black and ceejay played together where ceejay was scum and played a certain kinda way ->
ceejay plays in the opposite way to not ping himself ->
ceejay has an open opportunity to try and get towncred by showing distance between this game and the game with Black where he was scum and intentionally refuses to take it ->
ceejay then misdirects to hint at how scum should actually play

Is there more? Probably. But my break is almost over and I wanted to post something.

If there were any stakes I'd be yelling about this read

This does make a lot of sense if you come from a place of having already decided that ceejay's slot is scum. As it stands, I think you're trying to read the slot in earnest, which means this is a kind of wifom-ey confirmation bias argument

Idk feel free to scum case me I love that but you might need to be a bit more focused because I think part of the exercise you're undertaking in this post is trying to convince yourself on the read

Well yeah, I posted another reason why I feel your slot is scum as well. It’s not solely because of my confirmation bias.