Newbie 2109: Taco Hemingway | Game Over

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Honestly...

Weuler/AV double scum was never on my mind. I knew that was bait.

So... I was trying to sort which of AV/Weu were scum to find the partne,r btu then both the people wanted to kill AV so I was like.... AV's just town I guess?

I also think AV voting for Weuler was...

[Arko]

So... I'll personally say it both of us definitely fucked up at varying degrees this game.

[Arko]

No not like just me/delta... I'm saying probably all of us fucked up hard, it was just the mafia that did it less

[Save The Dragons]

we definitely got lucky with the kingtroll kill too

[AurorusVox]

I was honest about being paranoid / an over thinker.

I felt like I needed to put pressure on weuler because you thought we were a scumpair, and when weuler said they had a suspicion but didn’t name it I was like oh fuck I need to vote him before he votes me, cos I thought you’d go with whoever was voted first (as it turns out you did, just after like a hell of a lot of a tougher ride!)

Pedit: yeah I said in the PT that I thought I’d been played by you, LLD. In the end it got in my head and I wanted the day over asap tbh!

[AurorusVox]

I thought KT was friendly neighbour cos he kept saying “hi” lol

And CCG cos he kept saying “brother”

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was honest about being paranoid / an over thinker.

I felt like I needed to put pressure on weuler because you thought we were a scumpair, and when weuler said they had a suspicion but didn’t name it I was like oh fuck I need to vote him before he votes me, cos I thought you’d go with whoever was voted first (as it turns out you did, just after like a hell of a lot of a tougher ride!)

Pedit: yeah I said in the PT that I thought I’d been played by you, LLD. In the end it got in my head and I wanted the day over asap tbh!

Gah.

I counter threw for the exact same reason. I just wanted this overwith.

[Arko]

So I shouldn't of snapped there at the end. I'll agree with that. Sorry bout that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

we definitely got lucky with the kingtroll kill too

That and it's hard when I replace into a slot that's near dead as town because it means it's hard to hunt when epople randomly want you dead for no good reasno.

[AurorusVox]

Also, proud that the very early distancing against WS laid a very good foundation to negate the AV/STD pairing.

But then I was also paranoid that if I didn’t push STD hard today (like if I went after you, LLD) that people would realise I’d been distancing him all along without the intent to eliminate him.

There was a point where the strategy changed from trying to get a D4 win after either me or STD went down, to trying to win today and that’s where I started to pivot to weuler

[Arko]

I did think we were pretty fucked on the last day

Just not that supremely fucked

[AurorusVox]

we definitely got lucky with the kingtroll kill too

That and it's hard when I replace into a slot that's near dead as town because it means it's hard to hunt when epople randomly want you dead for no good reasno.

Rescuing that slot was seriously impressive

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, proud that the very early distancing against WS laid a very good foundation to negate the AV/STD pairing.

But then I was also paranoid that if I didn’t push STD hard today (like if I went after you, LLD) that people would realise I’d been distancing him all along without the intent to eliminate him.

There was a point where the strategy changed from trying to get a D4 win after either me or STD went down, to trying to win today and that’s where I started to pivot to weuler

How the fuck I got you to vote Weuler there is beyond me

[Arko]

That was horrible, and I want to avoid that trashfire again. That was just such a bad combination. Also you did pretty well for such a fucked slot, Surprisingly well.

[AurorusVox]

Also, proud that the very early distancing against WS laid a very good foundation to negate the AV/STD pairing.

But then I was also paranoid that if I didn’t push STD hard today (like if I went after you, LLD) that people would realise I’d been distancing him all along without the intent to eliminate him.

There was a point where the strategy changed from trying to get a D4 win after either me or STD went down, to trying to win today and that’s where I started to pivot to weuler

How the fuck I got you to vote Weuler there is beyond me

You asked so nicely!

I actually was waiting for you to push me to vote weuler because as I saw it my only other option was STD…

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I should have just listened to myself.

Yesterday I said "I won't kill Weuler, he's town. I'll lose the game to that."

today i said the same shit about Arko.

If I just listen to myself it's obvious. Fuck.

[Arko]

Why was it such a bad combination? well...

• Like 2-3 Fucked town slots so early on
• PR Genocide
• Pretty much everyone played either Mediocre or Plain Bad. (I know I played pretty bad, Mafia did Mediocre but still better than us and the other 2 town can self-reflect themselves)
• Everyone's reads being so flimsy and not that accurate
• Generally town didn't interact well with each other, and fucked the other townies over
• Replacing in also kinda sucked
• The absolute cancer of that final day

I definitely liked playing it but this game was a trashfire and it ended up sucking.

[AurorusVox]

It’s a little bittersweet that after what I’d consider good play throughout most of the game that a monumental misplay on my behalf is what won it in the end but I guess a messy goalmouth scramble counts just as much as a 35 yard screamer…

I think you’re being a little harsh there arko tbh. There was plenty of good play. The Fred lim that never happened was good from town. NK going down entirely with town on the wagon was good from us.

I’m not built for ELO. I didn’t enjoy it but I think std payed it well. I was definitely too eager to rush through it.

[AurorusVox]

although I was annoyed because every time Town replaced out, it was someone who townread me replaced by someone who didn’t lol. And the easy/easier lim targets being replaced by more competent and/or present players.

I also got lucky with my replacee too though even though I spent most of the game accusing him of being scum <3

[Arko]

You guys played definitely somewhere inbetween Good-Mediocre (The town had mainly figured you out, you misplayed a few times, but the town kinda fucked up hard and you took advantage of it)

[AurorusVox]

I mean for most of the game, including the final day until my weuler vote, most of the town thought I was town (you and weuler both had me as your strongest townread earlier today) - if that hadn’t been the case I wouldn’t have been able to defend myself after the vote because the excuse (no scum motivation to go after weuler) wouldn’t have been viable.

I got in my own head and almost fucked it but earlier play (towncred + distancing) helped to negate the magnitude of the catastrophe…

[Arko]

Yeah without that final day I'd firmly say you played good.
Anyways the 3 misplays I noticed was:
Fenrir's Reads list being completely fucked over by FN, and casually all voted out people were part of the Townreads (I only noticed this in retrospect)
The Final Day
Aurora at sometimes acting a little too lurky for his own good (It payed off in the end though, until misplay of the final day happened...)

Us townies never noticed, barely did, or fucked around and failed with these misplays.

[AurorusVox]

On the lurking. There were definitely one or two occasions where I didn’t post strategically but on the whole I generally posted whenever I got a chance. I’m a teacher so it’s not like I can just grab my phone to catch up and post during the day. And I have 18 month old twins so there’s not a lot of time when I’m at home either. I could generally post (a) first thing in the morning while drying off from a shower, (b) when I got home from work and sat on the loo - not every day!! And (c) late at night like now when I should be sleeping lol

So although there were 1-2 times I didn’t post when I could have, it genuinely would have been pretty much the same even if I was town.

[Arko]

Nice to know, it was more the content of the posts that gave it the lurk to me actually.

[AurorusVox]

Oh interesting. What made them seem lurky? I tried to put as much scum hunting content in them as I could!