NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Psyche]

I acceded to the claim because it seemed exciting and innocuous at the time, as I had a townread on Marquis. I was also feeling rather lazy and didn't feel like having to shout down people to stay alive. Marquis probably detected that and felt safe making the claim. If I'd known how you guys would have responded to it, I'd have left it to my replacement to deal with the claim. But that just seemed unfair.

[Psyche]

but if you're already set on lynching both of us,
it really makes no sense not to first lynch the guy who has signaled time and time again that he doesn't have the resources to adequately play this game

[reinoe]

SK HAS to be one of the following players.

MuffinMan

(PINE)

Majiffy

Peregrine

notscience

Shaddowez

RoyalApe

(SKYBIRD)

At the time Mirhawk believed Marquis/Psyche were masons so he didn't include them. Now that we know they're not masons.

Yes this is Information instead of Analysis but my analysis has been shit this game so maybe somebody else can do something with it.

House, why are you not interested in lynching any of the three above (Pine, Shaddowez, Skybird)?

[House]

SK HAS to be one of the following players.

MuffinMan

(PINE)

Majiffy

Peregrine

notscience

Shaddowez

RoyalApe

(SKYBIRD)

At the time Mirhawk believed Marquis/Psyche were masons so he didn't include them. Now that we know they're not masons.

Yes this is Information instead of Analysis but my analysis has been shit this game so maybe somebody else can do something with it.

House, why are you not interested in lynching any of the three above (Pine, Shaddowez, Skybird)?

Pine and shaddowez strike me as town. Skybird's play reminds me a lot of my own... misunderstood town struggling to adjust to site meta.

[House]

House, when you first replaced in you scum read Psyche in post 4156. Do you still read Psyche as scum?

My initial read of Psyche was pretty superficial; I was flying through the thread to catch up, and his minimalist posting style just really sat wrong with me. I wouldn't have maintained a scum read on him purely on that basis.

The fake masons claim kept him on my radar. I just don't know what to make of it.

[House]

SK HAS to be one of the following players.

MuffinMan

(PINE)

Majiffy

Peregrine

notscience

Shaddowez

RoyalApe

(SKYBIRD)

At the time Mirhawk believed Marquis/Psyche were masons so he didn't include them. Now that we know they're not masons.

Yes this is Information instead of Analysis but my analysis has been shit this game so maybe somebody else can do something with it.

House, why are you not interested in lynching any of the three above (Pine, Shaddowez, Skybird)?

I mean, I'm not saying I

wouldn't

vote for them (though I'd really rather not vote Skybird unless there's something legit scummy aside from theory)... it'd just be a concession to town that I might be wrong if I do.

[Skybird]

Psyche, why did you confess that the mason claim was fake?

[Skybird]

From the game set-up post, Scum win when their numbers equal or exceed town. We have 7 people alive - 1 SK, assuming 2 scum, and 4 townies. If we mislynch and hit a townie, we will have 6 people alive - 1 SK, 2 scum and 3 townies. Then we have to hope that the SK hits a scum and scum pick the SK to have a chance at a win. If that is correct, town has to hit scum or SK today or we are pretty much done.

Another thing, Marquis has had two votes on him for over 24 hours. If he was town, do you think he'd still be alive?

[House]

From the game set-up post, Scum win when their numbers equal or exceed town. We have 7 people alive - 1 SK, assuming 2 scum, and 4 townies. If we mislynch and hit a townie, we will have 6 people alive - 1 SK, 2 scum and 3 townies. Then we have to hope that the SK hits a scum and scum pick the SK to have a chance at a win. If that is correct, town has to hit scum or SK today or we are pretty much done.

Another thing, Marquis has had two votes on him for over 24 hours. If he was town, do you think he'd still be alive?

Do you really think all the scum would dogpile on a lynch when there is still the possibility town could live past the night?

[Skybird]

If they came in and made naked votes, yes it would be really obvious and not something they would do. I think it's been long enough that they could have come in and made some kind of post stating why they were voting for him and then voted him.

[House]

If they came in and made naked votes, yes it would be really obvious and not something they would do. I think it's been long enough that they could have come in and made some kind of post stating why they were voting for him and then voted him.

I guess, fuck idk.

I've had shit luck reading people in my first two games, so I don't really have a leg to stand on.

UNVOTE:

[Psyche]

Psyche, why did you confess that the mason claim was fake?

i didn't want to make it my replacement's job :/

[Pine]

My limited access turned into no access unexpectedly, then went much longer than anticipated. I'm back online and will be trying to get current over the next 24 hours. Please be patient, I have several fast-moving games to catch up to.

Note to self: 4839

[Skybird]

No worries Pine, we have some time yet. We definitely need your input.

[Wake1]

Vote Count 6.1

House (1):

Marquis

Marquis (2):

Shaddowez, Skybird

Pine (0):

Psyche (0):

reinoe (0):

Shaddowez (0):

Skybird (0):

Not Voting (4):

reinoe, Psyche, Pine, House

~ With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
~ Deadline expires 11/09/14, @2PM Central.

OP | Game Rules | Day Start
1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | 1.7 | 1.8 | 1.9 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 1.12 | 1.13 | 1.14 | 1.15 | 1.16 | 1.17 | 1.18 | 1.19
Aegor's Lynch & Flip
Elyse and T S O's Murders & Flips
2.1 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 2.4
Aeronaut's Lynch & Flip
Texcat and Josh_B's Murders & Flips
3.1 | 3.2 | 3.3 | 3.4 | 3.5 | 3.6 | 3.7 | 3.8 | 3.9
tn5421's Lynch & Flip
Titus's Murder & Flip
4.1 | 4.2 | 4.3
OkaPoka's Lynch & Flip
Majiffy and Mirhawk's Murders & Flips
5.1 | 5.2 | 5.3 | 5.4 | 5.5
PeregrineV's Lynch & Flip
Gameplay506 and notsciences' Murders & Flips
6.1 | 6.2 | 6.3

[reinoe]

VOTE: House

[Skybird]

Can you explain your House vote reinoe?

[reinoe]

Can you explain your House vote reinoe?

No.

[Pine]

I'm caught up now

Quite frankly, I don't care for anything at all that's been said since my absence. It looks like treading water at best, second-guessing at middle, off-task at worst.

Vote: Psyche

House 4851 is directly on point. Town!Psyche's play was a clear refutation of the Mason claim, and his subsequent waffling just screams scum to me. Marquis is a possible partner, as the point regarding claimed Masons surviving this long is solid. Skybird...ugh I dunno. Newbies to this site always look scummy to me

Psyche lynch. A Psyche scumflip causes us to look into Marquis

Better yet:

Hey, Serial Killer - Mafia's gotta die for you to win. Your best chance, if Psyche flips scum, is to stab Marquis. If that eliminates the scumteam, you've got a golden opportunity for an SK win, because we have no clue who you are

[reinoe]

Marquis is a possible partner, as the point regarding claimed Masons surviving this long is solid.

Why do you think the serial killer can't/won't take care of it? If Psyche flips town are you just gonna chain lynch Marquis?

[Pine]

Actually, Psyche flipping Town would suggest Marquis!Town. I don't see scum faking Masons with a Townie. High risk low reward

I thought that was implied as the inverse of my statement. Also, pretty sure I said as much the previous day, after the fakeclaimery was revealed

[shaddowez]

Deadline is in ~24 hours, and votes are on for different people. I want either a Marquis or Psyche lynch at this point. I'll move my vote to psyche of it looks like that's more likely to happen, but something should happen. With both the SK and at least two mafia probably alive, a no lunch does is no good toDay

[shaddowez]

For=four

[Psyche]

Actually, Psyche flipping Town would suggest Marquis!Town. I don't see scum faking Masons with a Townie. High risk low reward

but i should have called marquis out on the fakeclaim

[Pine]

Wait...7-day day phase? No bueno

Mod - there have been several absences, V/LAs, and replacements pending. 7 days is not enough. Please extend the deadline. We're finally getting some life back in this.

I feel Marquis is a mistake at this time.

Psyche needs to be our lynch