New York 180 (Endgame)

[Aeronaut]

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[Aeronaut]

@Ika can we request a prod of Ogzin?

[ika]

@Ika can we request a prod of Ogzin?

If a player goes 48 hours with posting, I will prod them. Prods will be announced in thread.

I will however poke him

[Kitz]

Just a curious thing.
Why T S O over Wolf?

Do you ever see it possible to lynch Wolf?
Nope. Free townie roaming about.

WTF are you talking about?

Pretty much this, Kitz, no idea what this means.

What I said is that town players like Wolf is still alive.
If I was Scum, I'd target Wolf so that the whole game disrupted with less trusted players and way more confusion. (If I didn't see a PR, obviously)
For the same anti-reason, if I was a doctor I target her as well.

I'm not convinced by T S O's psychologic "Think I was attacked and healed" with no feedback, because Boon and NS are the same exact roles.
If he's correct on targeting Math out of policy, it means this : Either he's a Scum (and obviously lie), or he's a Town (with the host having made an error) being the only one to succeed an attack on the third night.

Multiple nights with just a single kill, I'm having a fair idea that the Mafia with all their PR's and shit should know who's a target and whose not, and if there's a SK he should know who's unable to die and stuff.

Anyway, missing kills and certain players being still alive, it makes me suspicious of them.
I'm really bad as voicing opinions, but I hope you get the message.

If there's two Vigilantes, and there's the non-consequent kind, why not act either night 3 or 4, Vig 2?

[SilverWolf]

What I said is that town players like Wolf is still alive.
If I was Scum, I'd target Wolf so that the whole game disrupted with less trusted players and way more confusion. (If I didn't see a PR, obviously)
For the same anti-reason, if I was a doctor I target her as well.
certain players being still alive, it makes me suspicious of them.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm............................................

[T S O]

I am telling you, Marquis is scum.

[T S O]

I don't know anymore.

I feel like leaving him alive is going to be a terrible decision. Because say we have 3-4 scum remaining, if we mislynched today and he and scum both shoot town, we're endgamed.

And what's the alternative? You mislynch me, scum only get 1 kill - and you go on to lynch scum in 4 fucking consecutive LyLo scenarios? Because we're shown we're

so

competent at lynching scum this game?

[T S O]

I actually did not realise how close goodmorning and Marquis are to a win - of course they're fucking shitting it that I'm going to remove two of them. It puts them way back in their plan.

[T S O]

Scum are not going to bus today because they have no need to. I am telling you. The resistance to the Marquis wagon is incredible. They won't bus him.

[T S O]

If scum refuse to bus Marquis, and this is 5-4 LyLo, then all it takes is one town player not voting Marquis to lose the game.

[T S O]

Marquis and goodmorning are scum. There's at least one more scum on Shinobi, because he's the town counterwagon to Marquis.

[T S O]

I think I can say Cheetory is town with relative confidence. Shinobi and dragonspawn too. And me.

[T S O]

I want to call SilverWolf town too even though it's been in the back of my mind I could be wrong.

So, who's left?

[T S O]

If scum refuse to bus Marquis, and this is 5-4 LyLo, then all it takes is one town player not voting Marquis to lose the game.

Actually, this isn't 5-4 LyLo - it is probably 7-4 to us.

[T S O]

And, in case people don't remember this - Wake hammered the town fucking cop d2.

[T S O]

So, {TSO, Shinobi, dragonspawn, Cheetory, SilverWolf} as the townbloc, and {Marquis, goodmorning} as the scumbloc. Leaving me to sort Kitz, Aeronaut, Ozgin and elusive. 2 as town, 2 as scum.

[T S O]

I know I'm going to end up putting Kitz in the townbloc eventually, so let's cut to that.

Aeronaut, elusive and Ozgin.

[T S O]

Elusive, remind me of your claim again?

[Kitz]

I know I'm going to end up putting Kitz in the townbloc eventually, so let's cut to that.

Aeronaut, elusive and Ozgin.

This probably might be a bit selfish to say, but I'd like to put Aeronaut and Elusive on the town spot for their behavior towards me, when I'm a low hanging fruit for scum to pick on.

Also analyzing the players, I really don't see any possible associates for T S O, so town or neutral killer.
Here's an extremely unpopular opinion : If he's SK, he want to kill Mafia so he doesn't get "outnumbered" and loose, so we should keep him around for now.
So, regardless of town vigi or serial killer, Mafia's going down.

[SilverWolf]

Kitz-That is an extremely dangerous way to look at any game. Mafia will also defend and protect low hanging fruit to get them to say what exactly you just did. Trying to pass yourself off as some easy target for scum is also not something I will listen to when anyone does it. I've seen it used by scum as a tactic in other games and none of us are complete newbs.

That said, I agree with you about TSO. I don't see a scenario where I will go along with lynching him today.

[goodmorning]

And, in case people don't remember this - Wake hammered the town fucking cop d2.

See, things like this make me think you're either stupid or Scum, and I know you're not stupid.

[dragonspawn]

Just a curious thing.
Why T S O over Wolf?

Do you ever see it possible to lynch Wolf?
Nope. Free townie roaming about.

WTF are you talking about?

Pretty much this, Kitz, no idea what this means.

What I said is that town players like Wolf is still alive.
If I was Scum, I'd target Wolf so that the whole game disrupted with less trusted players and way more confusion. (If I didn't see a PR, obviously)
For the same anti-reason, if I was a doctor I target her as well.

I'm not convinced by T S O's psychologic "Think I was attacked and healed" with no feedback, because Boon and NS are the same exact roles.
If he's correct on targeting Math out of policy, it means this : Either he's a Scum (and obviously lie), or he's a Town (with the host having made an error) being the only one to succeed an attack on the third night.

Multiple nights with just a single kill, I'm having a fair idea that the Mafia with all their PR's and shit should know who's a target and whose not, and if there's a SK he should know who's unable to die and stuff.

Anyway, missing kills and certain players being still alive, it makes me suspicious of them.
I'm really bad as voicing opinions, but I hope you get the message.

If there's two Vigilantes, and there's the non-consequent kind, why not act either night 3 or 4, Vig 2?

Why are you giving ideas to the scum?

[dragonspawn]

I know I'm going to end up putting Kitz in the townbloc eventually, so let's cut to that.

Aeronaut, elusive and Ozgin.

This probably might be a bit selfish to say, but I'd like to put Aeronaut and Elusive on the town spot for their behavior towards me, when I'm a low hanging fruit for scum to pick on.

Also analyzing the players, I really don't see any possible associates for T S O, so town or neutral killer.
Here's an extremely unpopular opinion : If he's SK, he want to kill Mafia so he doesn't get "outnumbered" and loose, so we should keep him around for now.
So, regardless of town vigi or serial killer, Mafia's going down.

If he was a sk, he wouldn't have outted himself. We may not lynch a claimed vigilante, but the scum will not hesitate to nk one. Outting himself almost certainly guarantees a lose for sk.

[dragonspawn]

And, in case people don't remember this - Wake hammered the town fucking cop d2.

See, things like this make me think you're either stupid or Scum, and I know you're not stupid.

How does reminding the town of wake's bad move, make him scum when he is trying to argue for a lynch of wakes slot?

[Kitz]

Why are you giving ideas to the scum?

You're totally missing what I'm trying to say.