Thoughts on these aspects to following through with banes?Cheetory6 wrote:But I feel like something else worth considering is that we don't get a Boon if we don't use a Bane.
I also feel like being able to create wagons via Bane/Boon is also super useful and we lose out if we just say "nah" in all cases because of worrying about just the worst case scenario.
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In post 150, Cheetory6 wrote:@Titus,
Thoughts on these aspects to following through with banes?Cheetory6 wrote:But I feel like something else worth considering is that we don't get a Boon if we don't use a Bane.
I also feel like being able to create wagons via Bane/Boon is also super useful and we lose out if we just say "nah" in all cases because of worrying about just the worst case scenario.
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In post 150, Cheetory6 wrote:@Titus,
Thoughts on these aspects to following through with banes?Cheetory6 wrote:But I feel like something else worth considering is that we don't get a Boon if we don't use a Bane.
I also feel like being able to create wagons via Bane/Boon is also super useful and we lose out if we just say "nah" in all cases because of worrying about just the worst case scenario.
Wagon analysis is good but not at higher KPN. Plus, it requires us to submit a choice. Why can't that choice be "no bane"?
Mod: If we submit no bane as our choice would we still be eligible to get a boon or do we have to bane someone?
I never considered the boon as it is a future promise of something for antitown action now.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Deas - why do you prefer 1 over 2?"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis- DeasVail
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The annoying thing about protection in this set-up is that you have no idea whether you actually stopped someone from being killed or not. It could have been some sort of roleblock, or the scum not knowing how to tell the difference between candle and stone or some other weird complicated theme thing. The great thing about choice 1 though, is that the successfully protected person is informed of the fact that they were successfully protected! Now the first thought from this is that scum can just claim to have been successfully protected ----> TOTES CONFTOWN, but this carries a great degree of risk for scum, because you know, someone actually needs to have protected you for you to have been successfully protected. I'm pretty sure there's quite a low chance that scum making up the fact that they'd been protected would have happened to be protected that night, so chances are scum are going to be all cowardly and cautious and not make up anything. But this means that town who have actually been successfully protected can claim so, and thus be pretty certainly town, especially since there'll be someone alive who in fact did protect them, which sort of helps matters.
Without Choice 1, we'll have no idea what even happened at night due to the complicated nature of the theme.
When I look at Choice 2 I just find it incredibly underwhelming. I mean, sure, if scum try to kill this protected person with two people it makes a difference, but I figure that if scum are desperate enough to have someone dead that they'd kill them twice, choice 2 will just mean they'll kill them three times. So, the difference doesn't seem that great to me?
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In post 2, hitogoroshi wrote:"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis- DeasVail
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Yeah, you're right - I was taking that to mean they only had 2 uses of Unmake, not that they couldn't hit more than 2 targets."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis- T S O
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Feel mildly less enthusiastic about 2 right now."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis- DeasVail
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Hi every1 i was totally into posting like 7 hours abgo and then i couldn't and it was sad. Tokens basically turn all of Team Mafia into a CYS game so yeah. Like how I spent 5 tokens to be town! Choice is obvious imo the only reason to submit two unmakes on one person is to pick different signs.
Re: Titus, I don't know any of her team members other then ABR. Titus which ones are giving you town tips? I'm pretty sure I read in a place that ABR prefers scum.I HATE YOU SO MUCH PLEASE GO JUMP INTO A FREEZING LAKE - Mr. Freeze
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Bane:Target player's Sign is revealed.
(2)Gammagooey:ActionDan, vezokpiraka [L-8]
(2)No Bane:Titus, GuyInFreezer [L-8]
(1)Titus:ChannelDelibird
(1)ChannelDelibird:Cheetory6
(1)Zar:Gammagooey
(1)Shadoweh:Tammy
(1)GuyInFreezer:Marquis
(1)Cheetory6:Bulbazak
(1)Untrod Tripod:DeasVail
(1)Mastin2:Shadoweh
(7)No Bane Vote:Antihero, Aronis, Espeonage, Mastin2, T S O, Untrod Tripod, Zar(DeasVail, Shadoweh)
Choice:Should protection stoponekill, but inform players when a kill on them was prevented; ortwokills, without this information?
(7)One:ChannelDelibird, ActionDan, vezokpiraka, GuyInFreezer, Marquis, DeasVail, Shadoweh [L-3]
(5)Two:Gammagooey, Titus, Untrod Tripod, Cheetory6, T S O [L-5]
(7)No Choice Vote:Antihero, Aronis, Bulbazak, Espeonage, Mastin2, Tammy, Zar(Deasvail, Shadoweh)
With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to Bane or Choose. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.
In post 153, Titus wrote:
Mod: If we submit no bane as our choice would we still be eligible to get a boon or do we have to bane someone?
You have to Bane a player in the game to get a Boon.
In post 2, hitogoroshi wrote:Bane and Boons are majority lynches, while Choices are plurality lynches. Thus, you may vote No Bane or No Boon but not No Choice. If a majority of players vote No Bane, the Choice is chosen by plurality if a majority hasn't been reached already and the Day ends with no Boon vote. If a majority of players vote No Boon, the day ends.
Also, I suppose I haven't given my plurality tiebreaker - seniority of the latest vote.Last edited by hitogoroshi on Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:06 am, edited 1 time in total."Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop- fferyllt
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@Shadoweh, All my teammates prefer town, particularly ABR. ABR and I have a history of scumreading each other as town. Given I respect him as a player, teamming up made logical sense as I could tell him what I found scummy about his townplay. Plus, I was invited and I am a very pride motivated. I am the closest player to any who would prefer scum in this setting. Given how townsided most of the open setups can be, I bet practically no one preferred scum.
Also, I disagree with your post about unmaking the same person twice Shadoweh. Explaining why you are wrong would be anti town however.
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In post 162, Shadoweh wrote:Like how I spent 5 tokens to be town!
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In post 120, fferyllt wrote:GiF, why do you think one choice is better than 2?
I prefer information over uncertainty.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
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Then why did you vote no bane with me GiF?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Bc it's only day 1.Show"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
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??? Explain please. Baning is information over uncertainty.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 167, Titus wrote:. Given how townsided most of the open setups can be, I bet practically no one preferred scum.
Do you think this set-up is particularly townsided?"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis - T S O
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