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Post Post #4357 (isolation #1000) » Sat May 02, 2015 8:54 pm

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In post 4354, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4352, Metal Sonic wrote:, I have ZZZX as 95% scum right now,

and if you were ehm wrong, ?


i'm more likely to be wrong on ooba than on you goofball
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Post Post #4362 (isolation #1001) » Sat May 02, 2015 9:01 pm

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In post 4359, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4356, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4353, ZZZX wrote:had a net outage but whatever m8, Anyone who even iso's you will see my case, I will write it in depth later. thats all I have to say.


3 hours u piece of shit

I said 3 hours then went afk indefinitly, I am not that emotionaly contected to this game to leave studying for my finals to reply to everything said here.


you don't bullshit.

where did #4347 come from?

In post 4360, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4352, Metal Sonic wrote:You piece of shit. When you put someone in a "town block", you are not supposed to take them out for bullshit reasons. Including me, including ooba. Your "town hunting" is shit and I don't think anybody cares.

"shit reasons" do not include major things that make me believe in scum you.
frankly you can not apply the way you deal with "town bloks" with the way I deal with them, get over it. you only scum read me when i start scum reading you which is pretty annoying


only scum zzzx would scumread me, dont bullshit


In post 3822, ZZZX wrote:@Metal You are starting to talk some bullshit here bro. We both know game was stalled for 2 days with nothing happening. I dont need "your" help because I am in no danger at all. do you see my getting lynched? the next time you say its for saving me or something shitty like that I am really dropping my town read on you.


HAHAHAHAHAHA THREATENING TO DROP YOUR SCUMREAD ON ME?

HAHAHA



thats enough, maybe you should spend time writing your nonsense case that wont make sense rather than spamming the thread with your desperate crap

maybe if ika or gif thinks im scum they can help you

i dont care what comes from scum mouth
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Post Post #4363 (isolation #1002) » Sat May 02, 2015 9:07 pm

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In post 4354, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4352, Metal Sonic wrote:, I have ZZZX as 95% scum right now,

and if you were ehm wrong, ?



TRYING TO CALL ME "WRONG" AND CALL ME "SCUM" AT THE SAME TIME

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Post Post #4403 (isolation #1003) » Mon May 04, 2015 12:50 am

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Wow! That was a lot of posts! Courtesy of the resident scumbag spammer. Ooba did the right thing by cutting off the conversation.

Since there appears to have been an "ooba diet", I won't be removing my vote on ZZZX. Sorry Alchemist, but if you strongly want for the Ooba wagon to push through, you're going to have to get Mollie + ZZZX + yourself on the wagon = 3 votes for plurality. Because it is probable that Zar won't be here in time while he is on V/LA, you'll get the lynch with the aforementioned votes.

@Notice: I won't be able to be here at deadline -- it's 6am and I have school. I'll be online for a couple of hours (I'll log off 5 hours from now), so if any of you want a live chat, just let me know. No, I probably won't be entertaining ZXSCUM unless I have something snarky to say.


Hmm, Mollie is abstaining from commenting on the situation. I guess she'll probably make an announcement later.



Comments to specific players


To the proficient one:
In post 4365, ooba wrote:However, mollie's already shown her hand by voting me today. A ZZZX lynch today makes my mislynch much easier tomorrow.


This is not true. Mollie will do as she wishes, and she's going to take her sweet time checking every single detail before casting a vote on Day 8 since it's LyLo.

Furthermore, in that scenario, I'm 99% sure that you will spam "If I'm scum, who am I scum with?"
Even if I'm conftown, I'd be hard pressed to give an answer to that question. I mean, would mollie still buy that it's "Ooba+Zar"?



In post 4367, ZZZX wrote:I will try to see if I can switch with someone in my team because this is giving me a fucking headache,


Why do you want to switch with someone in your team? Is it because you are frustrated with the game?

In post 4389, ZZZX wrote:-Metal have never voted kagami/sotty, i might be wrong about sotty as i didnt check it recently but I am sure about kagami (until the nacho incident ofc)


I deny. You are a liar.

In post 4389, ZZZX wrote:-Metal have softly defended both kagami and sotty.


This is only half true. I "softly defended" (in your terms) Kagami, but I made it pretty clear that sotty was a scumread. Also, half the town "softly defended" Kagami, you should probably call them scum too.

In post 4390, ZZZX wrote:I am resisting replacing with ika without any words since everyone is trying to put some wifom with some misrep about me and its pissing me off.


Why do you want to switch with ika? Is it because you are frustrated with the game?

In post 4397, ZZZX wrote:the fact that metal is worshiping this vca like wtf even tho it has been really bad.


Why is it "really bad"? Is it because your name is at the bottom of the list?

In post 4397, ZZZX wrote:metal worshiping the vca however is what makes them both bad.


Oh, I'm not worshipping the vca, I'm worshipping
Titus
! You are
misrepping
me, why are you misrepping me?




Hey ZZZX, maybe you'd actually be more effective if you would
FUCKING VENGE ME?


I mean, if you are "definitely sure" that I am ImagescumImage

And since a 1:1 with scum is always profitable in town's favor,

I don't understand why you haven't yelled "VENGE: MS" when you are at risk of lynch?

I mean like, if you flip ImagetownImage, and Mollie is not going to vote Zar, then she will be voting either me, alchemist, or ooba. 3 of your favorite lynchpool people! I mean, that's the best thing ever, right?

Maybe you'd be more legit if you VENGED SOMEBODY, instead of going on a posting frenzy after mollie unvoted ooba -- and filling up yet another page of spam during your fake V/LA.


The fact that you haven't pulled the trigger and venged me yet (since technically you get a venge shot thanks to Grey) only has 2
real reasons:


a) You are not really sure that MS is scum.

b) You are scum.

From the tone of your posts, it seems that the answer is probably not a). But why not mollie decide?
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Post Post #4404 (isolation #1004) » Mon May 04, 2015 12:55 am

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In post 4402, ZZZX wrote:(and mine was never a 180 frankly)


Let's just take a close look at the animation again

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Ah. Looks like
only
Mollie didn't switch place in your reads. So it isn't a 180, sadly.

I'm sorry, ZZZX, I've been misrepping you.
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Post Post #4406 (isolation #1005) » Mon May 04, 2015 1:46 am

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lol ok deadline extension

2 days is a goodly amount. lots of stuff can happen in 2 days.
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Post Post #4408 (isolation #1006) » Mon May 04, 2015 3:22 am

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Please be kindly reminded that you are GreyICE's venge for the day

Shut the fuck up, scum

You think zar and Mollie is stupid to let scum-me bullshit out of a lynch? You're the one who is bullshit here. Everyone and their mother is scumreading me and alchey. If you are town we die simple as that.

You lose to super sonic. Try again next game.
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Post Post #4409 (isolation #1007) » Mon May 04, 2015 3:25 am

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Only scum fake their v/la
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Post Post #4410 (isolation #1008) » Mon May 04, 2015 3:26 am

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and only really dumb scum would actually make it that obvious
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Post Post #4414 (isolation #1009) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:10 am

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I apologise for my rudeness and outburst earlier, dear ZZZX. I've been doing real studying in Math, and it could be very frustrating at times.

Here, see this. Converse. Have some tea and biscuits.

Spoiler: tea and biscuits
In post 3949, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 3947, ZZZX wrote:
In post 3945, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 3940, ZZZX wrote:My reasons are better than yours. Once I flip they will even matter more


In post 3822, ZZZX wrote:I dont need "your" help because I am in no danger at all. do you see my getting lynched? the next time you say its for saving me or something shitty like that I am really dropping my town read on you.


no man, you are in no danger at all and I don't see you getting lynched :lol:

nope, not today at least. and not unless grey flisp town. if he flips town i accept my lynch and leave it to mollie to lead


ok this is a deal. i trust mollie.

are you going to go back on your word on this?

In post 3951, ZZZX wrote:

p-edit: I dont back out of any promise.


In post 4268, ZZZX wrote:
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@Metal
I asked you before I 180 on my venge if you can hit scum 100% tomorrow.
I didnt get a yes.
if you want me to venge even with that then I have a really short response:
Fuck Off No
Its really simple.


No real town is ever 100% sure, so the question is redundant.
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Post Post #4418 (isolation #1010) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:14 am

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In post 4417, ooba wrote:
In post 4416, ZZZX wrote:pp-edit: i believe its alch most likely because of titus's vca being dumbly faked (just like kagami)
also its now where i double read nearly everything he said, also i tried to push him with u d5, but i said to my team to try and use metal to find if he slips anything about his partners. looking at titus stuff when he keeps talking about it made me sure somewhat.

Would you be willing to lynch Alch today then?


If he flips Town?
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Post Post #4419 (isolation #1011) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:15 am

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Wait, fuck.

Thaaaat's why the both of you are scum together ~.~
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Post Post #4424 (isolation #1012) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:21 am

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In post 4412, ZZZX wrote:who is my partner then? ooba? why wouldnt u lynch him then?



*Ahem*

This is exactly what Alchemist meant.

Are you baiting us?
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Post Post #4426 (isolation #1013) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:23 am

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In post 4423, ZZZX wrote:metal if u remove the people you town read from players me ooba and alch are left as possible scum (if you were town but oh well...). yet ur bullshiting here about it. dont ya think?


Nope, not bullshitting.

Still maintain that it's 95% you and 60% ooba. I wanted to give him town points after he came off much better against you yesterday, but he's suggesting a lynch on Alchemist...

which is driving me wrong, because someone is bussing here definitely.
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #1014) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:26 am

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In post 4425, ooba wrote:I've been called scum partners with everyone this game I think - sans Mollie maybe. :)

MS - me being scum with ZZZX is unlikely. My second vote on him would have been the plurality clincher and I didn't know deadline was extended till I came back.


I thought twice after the exchange in 196, that you were town and it's Alchemist/ZZZX.

I mean, just a flash. But ZZZX unvoting you and revoting me ONLY AFTER Mollie unvoted was itchy.
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #1015) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:26 am

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In post 4428, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4424, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4412, ZZZX wrote:who is my partner then? ooba? why wouldnt u lynch him then?



*Ahem*

This is exactly what Alchemist meant.

Are you baiting us?

every single person i feel like i dont mind dying you are telling me that i am baiting a mislynch? then frankly it seems i have no partner and i am a lone scum from ur discrption. am i missing anything?


Did I say baiting a "mislynch"?

No, you're
misrepping me.
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Post Post #4434 (isolation #1016) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:28 am

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In post 4420, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4417, ooba wrote:
In post 4416, ZZZX wrote:pp-edit: i believe its alch most likely because of titus's vca being dumbly faked (just like kagami)
also its now where i double read nearly everything he said, also i tried to push him with u d5, but i said to my team to try and use metal to find if he slips anything about his partners. looking at titus stuff when he keeps talking about it made me sure somewhat.

Would you be willing to lynch Alch today then?

using poe i dont mind lynch alch.


Once again, you don't put your vote where your mouth is.
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Post Post #4435 (isolation #1017) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:28 am

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In post 4433, ZZZX wrote:you said i was, you said i am willing voting alch cus my partner is ooba = voting a mislynch.

am i missing anything


You're missing many things.
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Post Post #4438 (isolation #1018) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:30 am

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Well, as do I, you.


So did GreyICE, apparently.

So your skull first.

You can have my honorary skull after you kill yourself. :)
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Post Post #4439 (isolation #1019) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:31 am

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Ooba, Mollie and Zar can be witnesses here. The thread is open to public for all to see.

Do you think they are going to let me go?
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Post Post #4442 (isolation #1020) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:32 am

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In post 4440, ZZZX wrote:i dont even get what u said above but as I said. I wont be zzzx if you didnt back out of that anyway.

p-edit: well i survived. what makes u the better overall trickster not survive just as me since it would be lylo?


You don't make sense.
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Post Post #4443 (isolation #1021) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:33 am

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In post 4441, ZZZX wrote:metal if you were town you would know i am town just by looking at my posts. your failing here is a fucking allarming thing (in addition to other classic scum-tells)


Speak that to yourself. I raised that point before you.
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Post Post #4445 (isolation #1022) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:35 am

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In post 3822, ZZZX wrote:@Metal You are starting to talk some bullshit here bro. We both know game was stalled for 2 days with nothing happening. I dont need "your" help because I am in no danger at all. do you see my getting lynched? the next time you say its for saving me or something shitty like that I am really dropping my town read on you.


"I am really dropping my town read on you."

I don't think town actually randomly drops townreads, but that's just my opinion.

Anyway, I dropped my town read on you first this time, so ha!
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Post Post #4447 (isolation #1023) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:36 am

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In post 4444, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4443, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4441, ZZZX wrote:metal if you were town you would know i am town just by looking at my posts. your failing here is a fucking allarming thing (in addition to other classic scum-tells)


Speak that to yourself. I raised that point before you.

sadly i read you and i see you are scum. and you say I am scum. so we are in a disagreement here. and frankly the only time u called me scum as town you were wrong anyway


So are you calling me wrong? Or are you calling me scum? Can you make up your mind?

Or even if I flip town it won't make you look scummy anyway?

Sorry bro, it doesn't work that way.
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Post Post #4450 (isolation #1024) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:38 am

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In post 4446, ZZZX wrote:your is a pure omgus so late in the game.



Did you take 3 of my long posts and summarized them into "you are omgus"?

That's another
misrep
to the counter!

And, I voted you first. You voted me second. So, technically you're the one with the omgus.
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Post Post #4451 (isolation #1025) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:39 am

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In post 4449, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4447, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4444, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4443, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4441, ZZZX wrote:metal if you were town you would know i am town just by looking at my posts. your failing here is a fucking allarming thing (in addition to other classic scum-tells)


Speak that to yourself. I raised that point before you.

sadly i read you and i see you are scum. and you say I am scum. so we are in a disagreement here. and frankly the only time u called me scum as town you were wrong anyway


So are you calling me wrong? Or are you calling me scum? Can you make up your mind?

Or even if I flip town it won't make you look scummy anyway?

Sorry bro, it doesn't work that way.

I am calling you scum and saying in the 1/100 chance ur town that you are wrong so you can look at your own bs you are saying. but frankly the way you are misreping my posts it appears you are scum.



THEY SAID THE SAME ABOUT GREYICE

AND THEN THEY FAILED
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Post Post #4452 (isolation #1026) » Mon May 04, 2015 4:40 am

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You know what? I'm not going to encourage you.

You are scum and you are scared to die. You are not thinking for town to win.



Ooba, I'll talk to you, bounce ideas off me if you have to.
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Post Post #4458 (isolation #1027) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:06 am

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In post 4456, ooba wrote:
In post 4452, Metal Sonic wrote:Ooba, I'll talk to you, bounce ideas off me if you have to.

Tangential - but let's talk about Titus VCA.

I know my alignment and wgeurts has already flipped.

This is nowhere close to the accuracy shown in the town games where Titus did a VCA.

In post 3540, Alchemist21 wrote:These are the notes Titus had.

1.4 - MS is a counterwagon to 2 wagons that were on scum.
1.9 - Dueling scum wagons. If no bussing is assumed, then scum would be in Ooba, Mollie, Zar
Between 1.12 and 1.13, ZZZX tipped the lynch to Hoopla over Kagami.
Hoopla wagon has 1 flipped scum on it. Others haven't flipped.
2.12 & 2.13 - Mollie is counterwagon to Kagami; ZZZX switched to Kagami from Mollie
2.18 - Mollie, Ooba, and Grey all voting for Sotty
2.19 - GI votes Nacho, followed by wgeurts and ZZZX
Mollie comes on, Kagami hammers Nacho

Zar is Town due to Sotty votes, Grey would have to be bussing frequently to be scum, and Mollie has generally good votes.

Again, her lynch pool after this is Ooba, ZZZX, and wgeurts.

I want to work with GI here.

VOTE: wgeurts


Granted. This is a high tier game, I expected at the worst 1 scum at the bottom, and 1 at the top (was Zar previously). But, I know my alignment (and I'm pretty dang delighted that I'm #1, if you noticed), Zar is probtown according to many (so that agrees with the VCA again!), and my lynchpool is currently {you, alchey, zzzx}. Yeah, everyone's should be similar sans themselves. Making the assumption that Zar and Mollie are town, and clearing myself, the VCA itself has 4 right reads and 1 wrong read. That's pretty fantastic.

If you want me to be honest here, I'm going by reputation. Titus's reputation is at stake if this messes up, which is not the case, since Mollie/Zar/Grey are 3/3 everybody-agrees-town in the top block. If Alchemist is town, and I know I'm town, then that confirms that Titus's VCA is spot-on again. The only other possibility here is that the VCA maker is scum. REGARDLESS, ZZZX ends up scum, and clearly he is unhappy abut being the bottom 2.



I think ZZZX driving up the Titus VCA point is silly? Alchemist himself earlier says something about "Me and Zar are scum" which is 100% contrary to that VCA that he set up --- and Titus is his teammate! Shows how much stock he puts in that VCA thing.


I've asked Alchemist to request a new fresh D7 VCA from Titus, he promised 72 hours but it seems that it isn't coming. That's fine, cause she's busy. But yeah, we need an update, with the 2 recent flips.
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Post Post #4460 (isolation #1028) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:08 am

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In post 4459, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4458, Metal Sonic wrote:I think ZZZX driving up the Titus VCA point is silly? Alchemist himself earlier says something about "Me and Zar are scum" which is 100% contrary to that VCA that he set up --- and Titus is his teammate! Shows how much stock he puts in that VCA thing.

yet you followed it like a cultist following thier holy grail...


I deny. You are a liar.
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Post Post #4464 (isolation #1029) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:09 am

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In post 4461, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4458, Metal Sonic wrote:If you want me to be honest here, I'm going by reputation. Titus's reputation is at stake if this messes up, which is not the case, since Mollie/Zar/Grey are 3/3 everybody-agrees-town in the top block. If Alchemist is town, and I know I'm town, then that confirms that Titus's VCA is spot-on again. The only other possibility here is that the VCA maker is scum. REGARDLESS, ZZZX ends up scum, and clearly he is unhappy abut being the bottom 2.

frankly if alch is town taht should confirm ooba as scum for you if you were town yet you are trying to gain ooba at your side, hmm?


frankly its not impossible that ooba is town and alch is scum

frankly it is more fun to talk to ooba than to you
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Post Post #4465 (isolation #1030) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:11 am

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In post 4462, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4460, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4459, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4458, Metal Sonic wrote:I think ZZZX driving up the Titus VCA point is silly? Alchemist himself earlier says something about "Me and Zar are scum" which is 100% contrary to that VCA that he set up --- and Titus is his teammate! Shows how much stock he puts in that VCA thing.

yet you followed it like a cultist following thier holy grail...


I deny. You are a liar.


I double deny. every single time you were told off you were going "but titus vca" "but titus so gud"
"omg titussss"

im pretty sure nearly everyone in the game can confirm that.


I triply deny. That was only for a few posts after the VCA.

Anyway, I said this.

In post 3506, Metal Sonic wrote:but lets pretend the whole VCA thing never happened cause it is only a small part to the game. I should be obvtown and you agree



You are misrepping me as if it is a good point in your "case"
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Post Post #4468 (isolation #1031) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:19 am

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In post 4466, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4465, Metal Sonic wrote:You are misrepping me as if it is a good point in your "case"

you said that then 100 posts later u started using it,


prove it


anyway wge was scummy as fuck and you also said that he "hit a tight spot in your scumdar". dont be a hypocrite. It was one of the reasons but its not the only reason so why are you mad??
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Post Post #4469 (isolation #1032) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:20 am

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@Zar I see your post. I'm collating in my team pt. It's... messy.
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Post Post #4473 (isolation #1033) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:38 am

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In post 4457, Zar wrote:
In post 4314, Metal Sonic wrote:Firstly, during my absence, shos left multiple messages in the team pt and it seems he was pretty worried! Quite a number of them was to tell me to take my vote off Zar. After the read-through, mollie *finally* wants ooba's blood after me yelling for his head for like 100 years. Somewhere along the line she is going to proudly say "I caught ooba!" while forgetting that I was all for it the whole time. Well, after he flips scum, I'm conftown then, so hopefully it will all work out.

UNVOTE: Zar
VOTE: Ooba


Can you go over what shos said that compelled you to unvote me and why did you accept his read on me so eagerly at that point, given that he's been townreading me for a while and you seemed to suspect me for not addressing your concerns?


My original vote on you was a pressure vote, because I felt that you were ignoring ooba and I wanted to see more from you; especially when my tinfoil theory was you+Ooba. Then, I took a 3 day break from mafia, so my vote was on you during that period of time. I didn't check into my team pt either, which caused shos to be in a flurry especially when I did something that he specifically told me not to do. He gave brief but numerous convincing points with regard to his townread on you, and highlighted his conviction. I accepted it.

One of his strongest reasons was your play in Hilariously Unbalanced 2 mafia as compared to here -- its worlds apart. You don't follow your scum meta AT ALL. Another reason was your hammer and the reasoning that you had made for Kagami-scum, it gave you a lot of town points for him. Your case on Alchemist matched what shos was thinking, and it convinced shos that Alchemist was possible scum. We had a... little debate about that.

There were more points, but I think these are the unique ones that other players have not mentioned.

P-edit Townreading Zar at the moment, because of mutual agreement between mollie/greyice/shos/ooba/(lolzzzx)


@zzzx That was before Titus VCA was "wrong" on wgeurts. So it was still mostly okay to use it at the time until it was wrong on wgeurts. You don't see me mentioning the VCA after that do you? Only you keep bringing it up. prove me wrong. anyway i'm not even scumreading you based on Titus VCA. grey venged you are scum and you are doing the same to me.

well im sorry i didn't believe in wge, neither did the rest of the people (Zar, Grey, Ooba, wgeurts) on the 4 people wagon. deny they are town to me then.
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Post Post #4474 (isolation #1034) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:41 am

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Oh, and I missed one more point that shos thought Empire's ISO was fantabulous. I have to agree, Empire was extremely town, but everyone's townread on your slot dropped because you took a while to catch up in the game... about a week?
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Post Post #4475 (isolation #1035) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:55 am

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In post 4471, Alchemist21 wrote:(which is why he even wrote a guide with that title).


(Aside) I want to see this. After the game is over, ring up ABR to post this? Keeping this post recorded here.
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Post Post #4517 (isolation #1036) » Wed May 06, 2015 4:39 am

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Yo. I'm busy as heck, but I have to post the obligatory check-in before deadline.

Most important comments to least important:


The Alchemist wagon is hilarious. The fact that ZZZX is so hard to push, is absolutely awe-inducing.

I don't think {Zar, Pirate Mollie, ZZZX} will be planning to remove their votes anytime soon, so I guess this is the real deal. Alchemist gets lynched today, because his wagon hits 3 first. It's not such a /BAD/ thing, because it's one of the worst and desperate plays that a ZZZXteam will make -- he and his team will be flushed out like the poop from a toilet, regardless if its with Mollie, Ooba, or Alchey himself (I'll be lynched the next day, sure, but ZZZX will hang after my flip. He might try to pull a fast one on Zar, though, , but unlike ZZZX I don't believe the town is comprised of idiots . Not to that level.)

However, I will not dignify the wagon with a hammer. You all can wait till deadline for your lynch, noobs.

If ZZZX/Mollie tries to ninja a wagon on me during the night, because they realised how the Alch lynch lacked so much long-term planning, I trust you, Ooba, to not make the stupid choice (of sheeping them).

For now, how about you show your disdain and protest by placing a vote on ZZZX? :)



In post 4496, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 4492, ooba wrote:So it again boils down to MS\Alch vs a slightly possible mollie\ZZZX. Voting patterns fit etc.

Alch
- your analysis is so shallow.
- Your slot completely ignores everything from the point I replaced in - and this is for ABR, Titus VCA etc. etc. - because it's quite clear I'm town this game.
- Your slot cherry picks points against Sera. Even greyIce called the ISO "Sera's heart was in the right place etc"
- Me with ZZZX is impossible because my vote would have lynched him if not for the deadline mixup

And you still haven't answered 'Who's scum if I flip town?'


If you flip Town I would think MS/Zar. I really doubt you'll flip Town though. I have not ignored everything since you replaced in. In fact at one point I reversed my read on your slot because of how you handled Kagami and Sotty when you replaced in. Again, bussing is an invalid argument for not being scum with someone because at this point any pair of players has had "suspicion" cast in at least one direction between them. You and ZZZX have shown an attempt to work together while maintaining distance this phase. If I die now, I die telling you all it's ZZZX and Ooba.

@Mollie, when I flip Town, you go for these two and DO NOT STOP.

Venge: Ooba


You've also admitted that ZZZX is more likely scum than Ooba.
Why are you venging Ooba and not ZZZX?

In post 4516, ooba wrote:
In post 4510, pirate mollie wrote:mebbe I am wrong. I don't know. in my heart I feel like alchey or metal is the best place to start.

I get what you're saying - it's just that if you both had stayed at Metal - this would have been the situation:

ZZZX (2) - ZZZX,
Metal (2) - Mollie, ZZZX
Alch (1) - Zar

With me deciding between ZZZX and Metal. By shifting to Alchemist (and by virtue of making sure Alch reaches 3 votes first) - you've made it effectively, lynch Alch today.

If it is you\ZZZX, the shift to Alch was a strategic one.


Ooba. Let's say you're town. You simply cannot be taken for granted to vote Metal instead of ZZZX when you've already expressed suspicion on him in and .

Also, if you're town, you should notice the horrific significance of ? I won't spell it out for you; you should understand what I'm getting at. In fact, you should be thankful that I'm one of those here who has a brain.

In post 4492, ooba wrote:Alch
- your analysis is so shallow.


Could be because of a lack of experience/analytic ability. I agree with this statement, actually.



This is sweet. Thanks! It was a fun read.

In post 4484, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4473, Metal Sonic wrote:well im sorry i didn't believe in wge, neither did the rest of the people (Zar, Grey, Ooba, wgeurts) on the 4 people wagon

Wge didn't believe in wge? Are you just copy pasting without reading the game or wat


You read me right. Wge didn't believe in wge. That's why he killed himself.

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Hey everyone, I want you all to look here. Take a mental picture. Remember this:
Spoiler: See this in your mind's eye
In post 4496, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 4492, ooba wrote:So it again boils down to MS\Alch vs a slightly possible mollie\ZZZX. Voting patterns fit etc.

Alch
- your analysis is so shallow.
- Your slot completely ignores everything from the point I replaced in - and this is for ABR, Titus VCA etc. etc. - because it's quite clear I'm town this game.
- Your slot cherry picks points against Sera. Even greyIce called the ISO "Sera's heart was in the right place etc"
- Me with ZZZX is impossible because my vote would have lynched him if not for the deadline mixup

And you still haven't answered 'Who's scum if I flip town?'


If you flip Town I would think MS/Zar. I really doubt you'll flip Town though. I have not ignored everything since you replaced in. In fact at one point I reversed my read on your slot because of how you handled Kagami and Sotty when you replaced in. Again, bussing is an invalid argument for not being scum with someone because at this point any pair of players has had "suspicion" cast in at least one direction between them. You and ZZZX have shown an attempt to work together while maintaining distance this phase. If I die now, I die telling you all it's ZZZX and Ooba.

@Mollie, when I flip Town, you go for these two and DO NOT STOP.

Venge: Ooba


When under pressure, this is the message of Town. Remember that now. Town response under pressure.

Now, let's take a look at something that is not the Town response under pressure:

Spoiler: Take a good hard look
In post 4268, ZZZX wrote:
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@Metal
I asked you before I 180 on my venge if you can hit scum 100% tomorrow.
I didnt get a yes.
if you want me to venge even with that then I have a really short response:
Fuck Off No
Its really simple.
In post 4454, ZZZX wrote:also me wanted to live as town is not true? fuck your misrep i am done with you.

cus town would love to get mislynched so much #scarcasm4dumbpeople.


Remember all that? Good. I expect all of you to identify what a Town looks like and what does not the next time.


See you all on Day 8.
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Post Post #4520 (isolation #1037) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:16 am

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I'm not going to answer that question, because its pointless?

Serious question though, why are you posting more during V/LA than you do when you're not in V/LA?




@Ooba, let's play a fun game.

If Alchemist flips town, predict who ZZZX will be calling scum on D8.
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Post Post #4521 (isolation #1038) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:17 am

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ZZZX, if you want to play the "we both know" game,

then,

We both know that if you aren't conftowning me after , you're confscum.
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Post Post #4525 (isolation #1039) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:24 am

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In post 4520, Metal Sonic wrote:why are you posting more during V/LA than you do when you're not in V/LA?


Answer the question?
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Post Post #4526 (isolation #1040) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:25 am

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Never mind, this is a waste of my time, I have math to do.

Like I said, see you guys on D8.
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Post Post #4529 (isolation #1041) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:28 am

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The problem is that I think that if the ooba wagon stayed at L-1, and I didn't catch you scum, you would probably be spending more time studying (or lurking!) than desperately defending yourself.
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Post Post #4536 (isolation #1042) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:35 am

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In post 4532, ZZZX wrote:Also last this for real now: is any of the things you said about me a scuntell for me?


Answer me and prove it.


Yes.

Lurking is a fucking scum tell for you, don't bullshit.

You didn't ever lurk. That is a good thing, but I think you would have done it if Ooba was at L-1. And he was still away for his wedding plans.
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Post Post #4537 (isolation #1043) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:36 am

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In post 4533, ZZZX wrote:Whatever you say I will show you at least 3 town games where I have done whatever you have to say.


Are you sure about this?

I am going to name something you did in this game, if you can't find 3 town games of you doing it then you self vote.
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Post Post #4538 (isolation #1044) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:37 am

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Okay, I'm just kidding, you don't have to self vote.

But you have to do something... what should it be?
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Post Post #4540 (isolation #1045) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:39 am

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OH yeah. I remember, your play has gotten lurky shit since you're back from that long VLA of yours.

That's why I was avoiding you all the time in playing games. Now I remember.
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Post Post #4542 (isolation #1046) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:42 am

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Okay.

How about you show me town games where you went on VLA but still posted a shit ton during the VLA?

This one will be harder.
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Post Post #4545 (isolation #1047) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:44 am

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Bye Bye.

Don't expect me to change my read on you. This is mostly off topic talk anyway.
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Post Post #4548 (isolation #1048) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:49 am

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In post 4546, ZZZX wrote:I don't expect scum to change. I am just showing you how town you such as that game would keep looking even when u were sure about me that game to get the truth. But guess what you are not

This just confirmed the feelings I had. Now I am sure about you.


Which game are you referring to? I'm pretty sure you're scum because you threaten to drop your town read on me 3 times during the game. You make it seem like I am the lynchbait for you, but I am not. Town-ZZZX would not do that.
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Post Post #4551 (isolation #1049) » Wed May 06, 2015 5:59 am

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Hi Ooba, I missed you. Talk to me?
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Post Post #4552 (isolation #1050) » Wed May 06, 2015 6:02 am

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In post 4550, ZZZX wrote:
In post 4548, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4546, ZZZX wrote:I don't expect scum to change. I am just showing you how town you such as that game would keep looking even when u were sure about me that game to get the truth. But guess what you are not

This just confirmed the feelings I had. Now I am sure about you.


Which game are you referring to? I'm pretty sure you're scum because you threaten to drop your town read on me 3 times during the game. You make it seem like I am the lynchbait for you, but I am not. Town-ZZZX would not do that.

What do you mean? I don't understand what you are saying here tbh


I'm pretty sure your English was better than this a year or two ago. I'm not sure if you're pretending to be dumb by calling everybody misrepping you or what.

I am going to force myself to stop replying to you. If you want to know more about what I think of your play, talk to me outside of game. That way at least I know you aren't being scum and encouraging us to spam the thread with our meta stuff.
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Post Post #4575 (isolation #1051) » Wed May 06, 2015 11:26 am

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FUCKING TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY TIMEZONE YET AGAIN
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Post Post #4576 (isolation #1052) » Wed May 06, 2015 11:27 am

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That was so not fait
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Post Post #4577 (isolation #1053) » Wed May 06, 2015 11:41 am

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I was town
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Post Post #4578 (isolation #1054) » Wed May 06, 2015 1:26 pm

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Alch is CONFTOWN after I flip.

Zzzx can be scum with MOLLIE, ooba or Zar.
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Post Post #4580 (isolation #1055) » Wed May 06, 2015 2:57 pm

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You have been tunneling alch the whole time, you die too
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Post Post #4581 (isolation #1056) » Wed May 06, 2015 2:58 pm

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I can study in peace now

Fuck this game
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Post Post #4582 (isolation #1057) » Wed May 06, 2015 2:59 pm

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Also I should never use caps I always get mislynched every time I do that

I'm in team nocaps ffs
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Post Post #4583 (isolation #1058) » Wed May 06, 2015 3:04 pm

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Alchey you are kind of cute. I want to hydra with you outside of game. :))
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Post Post #4584 (isolation #1059) » Wed May 06, 2015 3:06 pm

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Same goes for ooba, I never got a good impression of you cause you were lurky as heck in our past games, but your skills show in this game. Unless you are scum, then I take that back. But yeah, this is a different side to you :)
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Post Post #4586 (isolation #1060) » Wed May 06, 2015 3:11 pm

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Lol ok. I would love to play with you again
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Post Post #4588 (isolation #1061) » Wed May 06, 2015 3:14 pm

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Done
oopsies! haha!

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