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Post #1228 (isolation #200 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:42 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:42 am
In post 1221 , Iecerint wrote: In post 1218 , Cephrir wrote: i'm not actually voting you right now
the reason i'm interested in you claiming is that i don't think there is a role that meets the specifications it would have to for your play to make sense
Do you only play normals or something?
No sir. But apparently
-it only needs to live to day 2
-it's okay if it gets roleblocked/otherwise fucked with
that doesn't add up to me
In post 1223 , Rhinox wrote:
In post 1213 , Cephrir wrote: i don't think anyone thinks katsuki is town and isn't named iecerint
I mean, kats is pretty hard to read in a vacuum IMO but in my meta on him scumkats is more involved, tries to actually get people lynched, is more manipulative, cares more, etc. And townkats lurks more, is less involved, goes with the flow, doesn't really make cases or what not especially early in games. Kats play looks more like townkats. I've even seen townkats selfvote on like day 3 rather than trying to get someone else lynched, and that fits with the whole "eff this I'm out" he was going with earlier. So in terms of his play this looks more like townkats to me. As for tone I already talked about how I expect the capsrage to come from scumkats moreso than townkats but Tammy told me kats has been doing that as town lately so... :shrug:
Its the same feeling I had last time I played with kats. You could tie me down and try to force me to explain what makes kats town and I can't really do it based on his play. But I think despite that, this looks like townkats. And I'm not too comfortable with a lot of the names on the kats wagon either.
I'm not comfortable with the names on the wagon either but I so completely understand why they're voting it.
Do we not think someone who's apparently god's gift to scum can emulate his town game? Even I can do that and I'm apparently garbage, so.
In post 1223 , Rhinox wrote: Does anyone think Cabd is town? Tier what is sketchy about kat's shift onto Cabd? A player getting wagoned within a day or 2 of deadline shifting to the other viable wagon is not really something I find odd or out of place at all.
I don't, but it feels too easy and he's no different to me than 7 other players in this game. I'm being skittish.
pedit @tier: i was the main poster in policy lynch
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Post #1231 (isolation #201 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:45 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:45 am
@kats whenever he asked this: The only townreads I feel really good about right now are EddieFenix's slot and maybe shos. Iec and Rhinox are weaker townreads.
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Post #1233 (isolation #202 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:47 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:47 am
perhaps i play it differently from you
ps hey guess who disappeared again that's right it's tbone
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Post #1235 (isolation #203 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:51 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:51 am
I would have been willing to sheep mollie, but then she left me all alone
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Post #1236 (isolation #204 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:53 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:53 am
It's true though, I know I'm a godawful scumhunter and should listen to my townreads more. I just wish I believed in said townreads more. I've gotten used to playing with certain people who I can easily be made to feel comfortable working with and would more happily sheep (hi ffery!) and I either get into a groove where I'm confident in my reads and then I play well or I don't do that and this happens.
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Post #1247 (isolation #205 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:24 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:24 am
you seem to have missed the point
also he hasn't even said "yes" to that question
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Post #1248 (isolation #206 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:25 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:25 am
i feel like you've all forgotten that lynching townies is bad
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Post #1252 (isolation #207 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:34 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:34 am
not paying very much attention: a scumclaim since never
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Post #1255 (isolation #208 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:36 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:36 am
I see t-bone is actually scum though! and that makes me less sure about lynching katsuki
good news is LLD looks kinda town, though I don't fully understand what she's saying about shos (he would be dead by now/you'd be bussing him if scummates -- but you WERE attacking him were you not?)
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Post #1256 (isolation #209 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:37 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:37 am
I don't think there's time today but I feel me actually pushing t-bone coming on and i love it
there's a fire in here somewhere
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Post #1258 (isolation #210 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:43 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:43 am
yeah...baiting...that describes what i've been doing really well...
i have a hard time believing you even wrote that
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Post #1270 (isolation #211 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:06 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:06 am
In post 1264 , Iecerint wrote:
It's not really that huge a deal on D1 in particular tbf.
Live a little.
That's what makes this silliness so silly.
lynching katsuki would be living a little though! cabd is the boring choice.
i'll fight with t-bone tomorrow it doesn't need to happen right now
i almost wish i still had my chandra avatar on though 'cuz i'm ready to start swingin
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Post #1273 (isolation #212 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:19 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:19 am
that's the first mildly town ounding thing you've said all game! im still all set tho
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Post #1279 (isolation #213 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:30 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:30 am
I legitimately haven't decided.
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Post #1281 (isolation #214 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:31 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:31 am
I would love to lynch you but I'm fully aware that is completely not viable
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Post #1286 (isolation #215 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:01 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:01 am
rereading cabd.
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Post #1287 (isolation #216 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:08 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:08 am
In post 40 , Cabd wrote: Who is like MafiaSSK:
If its scum, you'll have to find out some other way. If it's town, you'll have to find out some other way. Prod dodges aren't very alignment relevant.
I mean, not interested in lynching ceph or notsci at this point in time, and actually I have reason to believe that notsci's at least partially legit.
Why did you think ns's hated claim was legit?
In post 310 , Cabd wrote: Oh also forgot to mention this in my first posts but I have a role that I will likely never use barring consensus from people I have down as town, so I will be full claiming it when and if it becomes applicable.
What is this?
I'm still concerned by the really easy townread on me.
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Post #1289 (isolation #217 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:13 am
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:13 am
Ah. Roger.
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Post #1312 (isolation #218 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:03 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:03 pm
In post 1303 , Katsuki wrote: In post 1298 , shos wrote:
lollercopterz
that actually makes lots of sense :/ more sense than anything you said all game hahahahah
just in case you ARE a vig - I urge you to not shoot me. Even if you shoot another townie, that's better than me.
anyone whos still townreading shos after this needs to uninstall.
it is a pretty bad post
but it's shos
In post 1306 , notscience wrote: Bins I expect a read on me first thing when you get back or I lynch you tomorrow tia
why would you say this when you could just not say it
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Post #1317 (isolation #219 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:11 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:11 pm
In post 1316 , Bins wrote:
i would have posted it in the pedit but that feels like cheating
and yeah kats i did kind of knw that but again school strike is literally causing every DL to be now..
stop i'm trying to actually type a post of content.
ceph, how do you feel after - it might be still happening i guess - your cabd reread?
i'm more ok with lynching him than he was before in part because of those threads that don't seem to lead anywhere
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Post #1342 (isolation #220 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:05 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:05 pm
you can call me a town leader when i start leading something
which i will probably do at some point
i already know i will hate kats' iso too and don't want to suffer it again
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Post #1343 (isolation #221 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:07 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:07 pm
i hate bins' reads but she seems town
we'll see
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Post #1348 (isolation #222 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:17 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:17 pm
i will say im sad mollie didn't leave us with a post, that weirds me out slightly
i see no other reason to scumread her tho!
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Post #1358 (isolation #223 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:00 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:00 pm
cabd that was obviously a joke now why aren't you answering my actual questions
i am holding a hammer it is getting heavy
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Post #1363 (isolation #224 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:55 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:55 pm
The ATE is 2 real >:
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Post #1367 (isolation #225 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:23 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:23 pm
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Post #1369 (isolation #226 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:01 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:01 pm
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Post #1372 (isolation #227 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:06 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:06 pm
i will switch if i remember to check the thread
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Post #1373 (isolation #228 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:07 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:07 pm
but i like this better
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Post #1376 (isolation #229 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:09 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:09 pm
we have less than an hour, if you're so hellbent on no lynching without claims then hammer yourself
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Post #1381 (isolation #230 ) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:21 pm
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by Cephrir » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:21 pm
i dont think it was reallly the ate that got me i think id have come to that decision anyway maybe
i wont be sad if someone hammers no matter who they do it to tbh
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Post #1405 (isolation #231 ) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:11 pm
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by Cephrir » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:11 pm
why can't i have nice townreads
i need a scumflip, and I think reck is a pretty good place to get one, but tbone will be making a strong case for that position also
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Post #1410 (isolation #232 ) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:43 pm
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by Cephrir » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:43 pm
I don't feel any particular reason to respond to rolefishing.
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Post #1412 (isolation #233 ) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:05 pm
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by Cephrir » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:05 pm
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Post #1414 (isolation #234 ) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:08 pm
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by Cephrir » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:08 pm
If you think refusing to comply with a weird softclaim from a scumread is scumclaiming you should probably try a different game this might not be for you
Alternatively you're just scum
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Post #1416 (isolation #235 ) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:16 pm
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by Cephrir » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:16 pm
I do?
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Post #1421 (isolation #236 ) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:55 pm
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Post #1447 (isolation #237 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:27 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:27 am
In post 1426 , TierShift wrote:
In post 540 , Cephrir wrote: Katsuki not re-evaluating in the light of much better posts does him no favors and his team can ATE all it wants. 536 was a great post and his total lack of comment on it or any recent shos posts just reinforces my whole picture.
How do you feel about rhinox not evaluating either?
Hmm. That is how I feel about it.
Copper wasn't in the slot though.
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Post #1448 (isolation #238 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:28 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:28 am
(I hate to admit it, because I really don't want this to be the case and it would make me quite sad, but T-bone's weird interaction with me today felt sort of town, even though I don't understand what fucking planet his logic is from)
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Post #1452 (isolation #239 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:01 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:01 am
A) Why the fuck would you claim this now
B) Why couldn't this role have been given to someone who would use it to investigate better targets, you've told me nothing I didn't know already :/
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Post #1453 (isolation #240 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:01 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:01 am
Oh someone else screwed up too then
GJ whoever investigated the obvious town slot? But why would that info go to T-bone of all people???
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Post #1454 (isolation #241 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:02 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:02 am
Why did you fish me given the result I know you got?
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Post #1460 (isolation #242 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:19 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:19 am
Okay but what if my response was to out what I did last night? Wouldn't that be counterproductive?
Thankfully I have a brain, but I don't get the impression you think terribly highly of me, so as far as you're concerned such a response could easily have been in the realm of things I might do.
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Post #1461 (isolation #243 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:20 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:20 am
And it's not like there was a sweet reaction test to be had (since, obviously, I didn't target Bins last night).
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Post #1464 (isolation #244 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:01 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:01 am
In post 1462 , Rhinox wrote: So ceph has jumped up pretty high onto my list of desireable lynches for today.
You seemed to think I was town yesterday. It's a bit worrisome you wouldn't consider the mod could be screwing with us.
Fortunately we have the other setup to reflect on. It had a million investigative roles presumably intended to eventually cause the town to realize we should stop thinking about counterclaims. That much, perhaps, we can take as a lesson here.
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Post #1470 (isolation #245 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:22 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:22 am
Dear notscience,
It would be nice if you could provide some reasoning alongside your votes. I think I've been pretty town this game, so I would love to know what makes you think otherwise. Please feel free to contact me at
cephrir@town.net if you would like any further information about my qualifications. Thank you for your time and consideration.
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Post #1471 (isolation #246 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 am
In post 1468 , Rhinox wrote: There was something in the interaction between mollie and shos that I didn't want to talk about too openly on D1
it's day 2 now
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Post #1474 (isolation #247 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:16 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:16 am
it might get less empty when i feel like it
right now it's mostly "i've had this gut scumread the entire game"
but i could probably figure out why that is if i really felt the urge
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Post #1484 (isolation #248 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:32 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:32 am
T-Bone's play actually makes a shitload of sense as scum with me. Shame I'm not scum.
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Post #1491 (isolation #249 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:41 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:41 am
if i was scum with cabd i'd have tried harder instead of dithering for like 48 hours
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Post #1493 (isolation #250 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:42 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:42 am
In post 1492 , Iecerint wrote: Like, my impression is that you think that mainly because you already thought it, rather than that you are actually evaluating who is scum based on what is happening in the game.
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING
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Post #1496 (isolation #251 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:47 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:47 am
I'm not really doing setup spec though
I'm advocating not doing setup spec
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Post #1498 (isolation #252 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:52 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:52 am
So basically the premise is that I'm retarded!
Man people have low opinions of me in this game. It's pretty tiring
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Post #1501 (isolation #253 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:03 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:03 am
what are the chances that the score exists as a distraction and scum can manipulate it however they want
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Post #1503 (isolation #254 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:18 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:18 am
no, not quite, but people thought i was implying that (when i was actually just trying to prevent rolefishing in case it was important)
i'm now convinced it's not super important so i don't see harm in revealing i don't know anything about it
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Post #1505 (isolation #255 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:00 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:00 am
well yeah, because i'm not scummy
duhhhhh
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Post #1507 (isolation #256 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:03 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:03 am
Another difference: I've been asked for reasons and admitted to not having one.
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Post #1509 (isolation #257 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:11 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:11 am
I mean
Sometimes both wagons are town and the scum don't really care
I could definitely see that being what happened too
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Post #1511 (isolation #258 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:30 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:30 am
I think Reck's scum
T-Bone is still an option but his handling of his role today really took the edge off my desire to steamroll him
Cabd could be scum still but I've never had strong feelings, he's just not here
Iec seems town, Eddie is town, you (shos) are town, Tier feels townish but I'm not very sure about that, same with Rhinox
LLD made me think she was town at some point but I have no idea why
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Post #1516 (isolation #259 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:37 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:37 am
They're probably split between the two wagons in the same sense that an arbitrary collection of six people probably contains one or more scum because math.
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Post #1518 (isolation #260 ) » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:41 am
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by Cephrir » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:41 am
your constant confbiasing in one direction or another irritates me
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