Molla says that as scum he would've jumped straight into the next mislynch, and not sat around and twiddled his thumbs. But in fact that's
exactly what he did
, voting for me after just 30 hours in the day on a case you yourself thought was opportunistic-looking and exemplified his scum meta??
But that was D3, not the day after a mislynch. And I do think scum are less likely to fake those kinds of subtle behavioural tells in their overall pattern of behaviour. They concentrate more on making individual posts look townie.
(For Patrick's benefit, I'll say Regfan told me he thought some of JF's comments re: Molla didn't look like partners at all, and he's leaning toward ETL because of her flip-flop on serra, but I don't have more details because of timezones and my being at work or out all the time these past couple of weeks.)
Aaaargh that's true, I got my days muddled up. Boo and I was all ready to be like SEE MINA YOURE WRONG, HAH
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Post #1718 (isolation #407) » Fri May 08, 2015 3:22 am
Postby Quilford »
Hey ETL, I am going to vote you unless you post the reasons
your teammates
think I am scum before we get to 24 hours until deadline. At least one member of your team has thought I am scummy since 61 pages ago, and it's now been at least a week since you asked your teammates to post in your PT about me (by request from Mina). So give me your teammates' reasoning or I will vote you, and then you will be lynched. Thanks.
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Post #1725 (isolation #410) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:34 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1724, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I mean, part of the problem is that it doesn't seem like you give a shit about actually figuring me or anyone else out. You just keep looking for reasons to justify a vote.
"If you dont do X, I will vote you."
Right, me asking after whether your teammates have actually been legitimately scumhunting and trying to figure out the game instead of telling you who you should pretend they want you to push is me just trying to justify a vote on you.
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Post #1726 (isolation #411) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:36 am
Postby Quilford »
I know I have a green light to vote you. Duhhhhhh. I don't need to fabricate any reasoning at all. What you don't appear to understand is that I really cannot tell whether it's you or BB who's scum, and that's why I'm asking these questions in the first place.
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Post #1728 (isolation #412) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:38 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1724, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Instead of reevaluating your reads, you go "Nope. These people have always been and will always be town for no reason whatsoever, which means only these people are scum, and I will never think about that ever again despite other evidence."
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Post #1731 (isolation #414) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:41 am
Postby Quilford »
Oh your teammates? Easy. They know your alignment, so if you're scum they know who is town and therefore their scumhunting will be as fake as any Scum's.
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Post #1733 (isolation #415) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:44 am
Postby Quilford »
You actually said to Mina a week ago though that you would tell her why your teammates thought I was scum. And as I've pointed out, at least one of your teammates has thought I am scum for the last 61 pages. So I find it really, really hard to believe they dont have things they can concretely point to to justify their scumreads on me, especially if all four of you think I'm scum
In post 1731, Quilford wrote:Oh your teammates? Easy. They know your alignment, so if you're scum they know who is town and therefore their scumhunting will be as fake as any Scum's.
Yeah I get that. I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or you just really don't see it, but there is a difference between fake scum hunting and laziness.
Yes. I know. And when you finally post their reasons, I'll actually be able to tell. which is the entire reason I'm asking in the first place
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Post #1737 (isolation #417) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:48 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1732, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:You have got to be kidding me. It would be one thing to say this if I've been tunneling on you but I haven't. I've been looking at everyone. Continuously reevaluating. Trying to see if maybe I'm wrong about BB. Maybe I'm wrong about Patrick. I fucking went after Johnny instead of you until the very end of the day and would have gone back to him if I'd been here in time.
I've even reevaluated MINA ffs.... are you on drugs?
...
In which of your posts have you been doing any of this at all?
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Post #1746 (isolation #421) » Fri May 08, 2015 5:56 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1740, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:p-edit: al;dfkjal;dkjfal;dk please. Read. There have been several times I have mentioned my suspicions about Mina and Patrick.
I literally cannot see any post in the past nine days in which you mention any suspicion at all of anyone apart from me.
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Post #1748 (isolation #422) » Fri May 08, 2015 6:00 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1740, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:And what about my reasons....?? I'm here, playing the fucking game. They aren't.
Yeah. Its just that you've mentioned on several occasions that their opinions have played a massive part in you developing your scumread on me, you've said you trust them implicitly, you've said they're basically screaming at you to lynch me.
Their reasoning is clearly very convincing to you. I want to hear what it is. Surely if it's enough to take me from a town read to your biggest scum read in your eyes, it'll be enough to secure a lynch on me today, which is what you want, so I really see no reason why you're not sharing their reasoning, apart from it not actually existing.
In post 1740, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:p-edit: al;dfkjal;dkjfal;dk please. Read. There have been several times I have mentioned my suspicions about Mina and Patrick.
I literally cannot see any post in the past nine days in which you mention any suspicion at all of anyone apart from me.
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Post #1751 (isolation #424) » Fri May 08, 2015 6:06 am
Postby Quilford »
BB can you give a little one sentence summary of where youre at with everyone? That would help a lot in actually understanding why you're having trouble
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Post #1762 (isolation #428) » Fri May 08, 2015 6:32 am
Postby Quilford »
They're looking at me already you nong -___- Mina has said multiple times that she hasn't been impressed with my posts today. Patrick has literally pulled apart your case on me for me, something that you apparently thought wasn't worth commenting on despite him apparently being your second scum read. BB has been voting me for most of the day. They're all looking at me. Jfc
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Post #1765 (isolation #431) » Fri May 08, 2015 6:48 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1751, Quilford wrote:BB can you give a little one sentence summary of where youre at with everyone? That would help a lot in actually understanding why you're having trouble
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Post #1778 (isolation #434) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:44 am
Postby Quilford »
In post 1775, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:p-edit: Hey quil, you are aware that I still haven't gotten anything from them, no matter how many pages you generate about it?
Yeah I know. I'm kind of hoping your team will realise you are about to be lynched and then put in some effort to cobble together some reasoning, genuine or otherwise
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Post #1780 (isolation #435) » Fri May 08, 2015 7:49 am
Postby Quilford »
Mina I know you hate my posts today or whatever, but I can't see #1753 as anything but a flat-out contradiction. I want to vote ETL today. What are your thoughts re ETL vs BB vs me in terms of who should be today's lynch?
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Post #1787 (isolation #440) » Fri May 08, 2015 8:06 am
Postby Quilford »
Mina you better be composing the post of the century or something, I stayed up this late because I saw you weren't on V/LA any more and I wanted a goddamn dialogue
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Post #1824 (isolation #453) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:03 am
Postby Quilford »
Ok. Well I look forward to you actually reading the game and then embarrassingly backing down on your read on me.
If you've scumread me since day 1 but yet have only the gist of the general game state and history and no detail, then I think its proooobably a safe bet to say that you're conf biased to hell.