Newbie 656 Game Over!

[lifeofpie]

vote: lifeofpie

Pie is good.

P.S

I'm one of the IC's for this game so if you have any questions regarding game mechanics, rules, etc, post them in the thread and I'll do my best to answer them. Hope everyone has a fun game!

thanks!

Is my avvie good enough?

Vote: thinktank

Cool! I just figured out that if you hit control + b you get

. Hit it a second time and you get it with /.

[lifeofpie]

Unvote, Vote: Sion

For an awesome avvie. (although I did like Nausicaa and the valley of the wind)

[lifeofpie]

Unvote, Vote: chapter 5

for refusing to vote.

FOS: shadowlurker

for lurking.

FOS: Sion

for an awesome avvie.

FOS: RandomGem

for saying Shadowlurker has the longest name but only having three letters less than lurker's name.

FOS: Drifter

because he has a matrix avvie and if he has a movie avatar, it should be The Dark Knight.

FOS: Fenchurch

for acting like s/he knows everything.

FOS: owsianko

for having a Family Guy avatar.

FOS: thinktank

for being the senior player here.

And I'm lazy, so

FOS: everyone else

because I can.

[lifeofpie]

Unvote, Vote: Shadowlurker

post, man!

[lifeofpie]

vote: lifeofpie

Because it seems he dislikes Family Guy, or maybe he may think I'm scum for liking Family Guy.

Yeah, I think you're scum for liking family guy...

I never said I thought your name was weird..? It's definitely not as weird as some others I've seen.

Anyone have any pie?

[lifeofpie]

sure, here goes:

Unvote, Vote: Drifter

[lifeofpie]

You have to help it along if you want a bandwagon.

[lifeofpie]

Maybe it's a little early to ask this, but: what are everyone's thoughts so far on which players seem scummy?

I personally have my radar on you, Drifter and thinktank.

[lifeofpie]

P.S Anyone else notice the irony in a a guy called "shadowlurker" not having said anything yet.

That's not irony, and it's convenient that you leave out the fact chapter 5 has not posted either.

Vote thinktank

As a matter of fact, he has.

[lifeofpie]

Shadow, are you incapable of reading the first page?

Scum radar going off...

Shouldn't you always read everything?

[lifeofpie]

We really shouldn't have bandwagons. And no, it's not bad luck. He suggested it, so I targeted him.

[lifeofpie]

What's L_1?

[lifeofpie]

I'm not liking RandomGem's self-vote and then pointing finger on himself and going "Lurker". How is that pro-town, unless you're telling us that you're scum, in which case:

Vote: RandomGem

.

I say this, because my feeling is that most of you attacking Drifter are barking up the wrong tree. To me, his actions come off as newbie town more than they do scum.

If this wasn't day 1, I'd say that it's a cop telling us to back off an investigated townie. But it

is

day 1, so the statement begs the question: why are you so convinced that Drifter is town?

Personally, I've seen plenty of newbies inadvertently claim vanilla, but what bothers me is Drifter's

yeh, I see what you mean apologies to the townies for that. Unless I turn out not to be a vanilla townie.

...followed by erratic attempts to cover-up the claim. Why? Also, is he saying that he's not apologizing if he's scum?

FoS: Drifter

I also don't like Sion bandwagoning Drifter with nothing better than a "Too bad" argument in 53.

FoS: Sion

Finally, owsianko's vote on lifeofpie appears to be, as he said, aimed to get a reaction. When lifeofpie gave a joking reaction to a joke vote, owsianko unvoted. How is that scummy again and why are you trying to paint it scummy?

FoS: RandomGem, Fenchurch

Aw, I feel left out. Eh, you can't really FOS both Sion and Drifter, because one bandwagoned the other (unless it's an elaborate ploy, which I suppose is possible). Who do you think is scummyer?
Also, where did Drifter say he's not apologizing if he's scum?
It could be that Fenchurch and RandomGem (well, Gem has been lurking) are trying to spark conversation.

[lifeofpie]

I think he was joking. It was that phase of time. You yourself quoted me, who wasn't being altogether serious.
Voting yourself is also a thing a newbie does. 'Hey, this is unusual, so I'll do it.'

[lifeofpie]

Also, is there a reason you're answering for RandomGem?

Yes, I can't think of anything particulary fulfilling to add to the conversation. I suppose this is kind of scummy, so shoot me. You should let me voice my opinions. It should also assist you in making a desicion on whether I'm scummy or not.

[lifeofpie]

Not saying this is what's happening in this situation, but the problem with answering for other players is giving them ideas, which they may sometimes happily adopt. As such, the behavior should be discouraged.

For example, if RandomGem didn't already state that his vote was a joke in 113, I could point out that lifeofpie gave him the idea in 117.

@RandomGem: so, suppose your self-vote was a newbie doing the unusual move. What was the point of calling yourself out for lurking?

Ah, point taken.

Where has Sion gone?

[lifeofpie]

lifeofpie's post 110 is very odd. Usually it's a newbie scumtell to see someone talking for someone else, but lifeofpie responds to the entire post despite the fact he is not mentioned before giving anybody else a chance to. I also note that that is his longest post so far in the game and he chooses to respond to

only

Artem. If either one of them comes up scum, then I think a very close examination of the other is warranted.

I am not on much, so I try to provoke conversation while I am. It's just (dare I say it) coincidence that I'm posting just for Artem.

You have to help it along if you want a bandwagon.

unlynch

lynch life of pie

I used to think this was a bit of a townie action, but you posted this only a couple of minutes after I suggested a bandwagon, so it looks more like you were trying to buy townie points.

Actually, it was entirely random. I felt like doing something, and you suggested a bandwagon, so SHAZAM!

By the way, it's

Vote

[lifeofpie]

Regards to Drifter's early vanilla claim that had struck me as genuine -

is it possible that in the pre-game discussion, the second mafia player could have advised Drifter to claim vanilla if he was under pressure?

Would anyone who has played on the mafia side before be able to confirm if this is plausible?

Of course it's possible. I personally wouldn't claim at 3 votes, and if I was hypothetically scum, I wouldn't risk claiming a power role, and would claim townie instead. But now that I think about it, that's pretty much a useless claim. If I was at L-1 and pretty much going to be lynched, I would claim doc. I would hope for a counterclaim, because then my partner could kill him that night. This would only be a desperation/suicide move though, since it's pretty likely to fail.
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Oh great. By typing that, I've opened up a whole world of WIFOM. And likely suspicion on me. Woot.

Personally, I don't think that predicting scumtactics is particularly scummy.

[lifeofpie]

I stick by my vote. Drifter has been contradictory.

On the other hand, maybe we should kill Sion because his lack of activity hurts the town.

[lifeofpie]

I was looking at page five, and it occurred to me that Fenchurch's writing style and tune seem to change dramatically while under pressure. I suppose it could just be me.

[lifeofpie]

Being verbose under a pressure isn't a good thing. Often times it manifests into defensive posts which are a scum tell.

I disagree with this. Being defensive isn't a scum tell.

I think think (I love that name) meant that you will start making posts that are long and scummy, not that all long posts are scummy.

[lifeofpie]

@Fenchurch: Buddying up? If you don't like compliments, I'll change my tune.
Your avatar sucks horribly. The angle of it is all wrong, plus I hate that hat. Also, your long posts are exceedingly annoying.

On a serious note, you are still misunderstanding me. I think think (I hate that name ) is trying to say that long, defensive (there, I said it) posts have a habit of being scummyer than the shorter ones. Which I think I will agree with, just based on my knowledge of the human psyche (which is small).


Yay for parentheses! (I'm not sure that I spelled that right)

[lifeofpie]

EBWOP: Wow, that was a long post. How do you do those, Fen?

[lifeofpie]

Random hasn't been that bad...


Random at least seems to put in some readable, understandable comments.

[lifeofpie]

As I have said I suspect life of pie for IMMEDIATELY starting a bandwagon on me. So as I used the wrong word last time:

vote life of pie

I have already addressed this (I think).

Random hasn't been that bad...


Random at least seems to put in some readable, understandable comments.

Buddying up?

Not you too?! I am merely posting my own, not-so professional opinion. Shut up. Your posts suck, everything you post is scummy, (especially that votecount) and your grammer would kill your mother if she ever saw such filth.

Mallick has replaced Sion. But I haven't seen him post. So I'm gonna vote for him.

Vote: Mallick

Um, why again? Since when is that a reason? We should only go after lurkers (we don't even know if he might be having computer problems) if we really have nothing else to go on.

[lifeofpie]

Think, shouldn't you be using your power of vote?

[lifeofpie]

Random hasn't been that bad...


Random at least seems to put in some readable, understandable comments.

Buddying up?

Not you too?! I am merely posting my own, not-so professional opinion. Shut up. Your posts suck, everything you post is scummy, (especially that votecount) and your grammer would kill your mother if she ever saw such filth.

Only kidding...

Me too.

Mallick has replaced Sion. But I haven't seen him post. So I'm gonna vote for him.

Vote: Mallick

Um, why again? Since when is that a reason? We should only go after lurkers (we don't even know if he might be having computer problems) if we really have nothing else to go on.

I'm not trying to lynch him. I'm just trying to put some pressure on him to get him to post.

Eh, I really don't have faith in this system. One vote doesn't really do much in this situation, plus we don't even know if he has access to the boards.

[lifeofpie]

EBWOP: Wheeeeeeeeee! Quotefest!

[lifeofpie]

Responding to prod.
Fenchurch, I'd like to agree with you, but am honestly having difficulty adding in, too.

[lifeofpie]

For starters, it wasn't really a bandwagon vote and it was more of a joke vote. in the ensuing scummyness, I decided that he (Drifter) seemed to deserve the vote. There was no point in changing or altering the vote, as it would likely make a beeline back to him.

Fenchurch & all you other non-believers: I compliment. I'm serious, if you don't like it then there is something seriously wrong here. I take this game with a casual attitude, but am still perfectly serious about it (wait, maybe that's kind of contradictory). The insults were not serious, as, hopefully, pointed out with the smileys.

More later.

[lifeofpie]

Fenchurch
Also, I believe I said that I was joking on page 9.
Another thing, as I was looking over the last few pages, Drifter's vote on me seemed OMGUS.
Of the two ICs, ShadowLurker has seemed more into the game as of late, while think has slowed down.

I plan on looking over the entire thread, some real stuff possibly coming soon.

[lifeofpie]

Drifter:

1 - “yeh well you certainly didn't want to wait around, and there aren't many posts in this thread that have only 2 minutes in between them”

This comes off to me as just looking for a reason, and a bad one, to give an OMGUS vote.

2 - “To be a good townie you shouldn't be worried about getting killed off yourself if you help out the team.”

I really don’t like that he’s telling us what we should and should not do, when in a previous post he made the mistake of claiming with just one (or two? Not quite sure. There weren’t very many) vote on himself.

3 - “alright wel I have said I'm not the Mafia, I'm getting plenty of advice apart from how to defend myself, so all I can say is that I haven't been afraid to throw my name out there, I haven't hid or coasted, iv posted a lot.”

His posts haven’t really had any content before this specific one, and they really aren’t much later on. He seems desperate to look townie, accentuated because he continually mentions that he isn’t mafia. Well, aren’t we all?

4 - “wel the mafia don't know if i have a power role or not.”

Although it has already been mentioned several times, this is fishing. Also, it is contradictory, because didn’t he claim vanilla townie?

5 - “Your complaining about my play, wel choose who you want to vote off and we will see who has been more useful for the townies when I end up lynching a mafia and all of you end up voting off an innocent”

I like this, he tells us all to go to hell. Essentially. This is also part of his last post.


that's all for now.

[lifeofpie]

RandomGem:

1 - “No comments on my lurking?”
Why are you trying to draw attention to yourself? This doesn’t really come off a scummy to me, but I’m rather annoyed that you are lurking, only to post “I’m lurking”

2 – “As for ShadowLurker's aggressiveness, it seems fitting for an IC, but on the other hand, he seems to have missed certain things in the thread, so I do not believe it is quite fitting.”
This seems to me to be an attempt to bring ShadowLurker out into the spotlight. He didn’t really explain what SL seems to be skipping over. However, I believe that I have not gone into great detail in the past, either.

3 – Fenchurch wrote:
I say this, because my feeling is that most of you attacking Drifter are barking up the wrong tree. To me, his actions come off as newbie town more than they do scum.

“I believe this too, and think his actions don't really indicate that he is scum, but on the other hand, it can't exactly be ignored because then if he was scum he would have a free ride for the whole game. Such is the game...”
So…? What’s up? What’s the choice, Sherlock?

4 – “Upon chapter 5's explanation, I made a (very very) quick scan. Fenchurch, I have found a random gem avatar to comply with your wishes.”
Buddying up?

5 – “Of course it's possible. I personally wouldn't claim at 3 votes, and if I was hypothetically scum, I wouldn't risk claiming a power role, and would claim townie instead. But now that I think about it, that's pretty much a useless claim. If I was at L-1 and pretty much going to be lynched, I would claim doc. I would hope for a counterclaim, because then my partner could kill him that night. This would only be a desperation/suicide move though, since it's pretty likely to fail.”
Probably the only post of his that I find to be a scumtell. If you didn’t want WIFOM and suspicion, why didn’t you just type “Of course it’s possible.”

6 – “I can see that my predicting scum tactics was a bad idea, just like I thought it would be. (But I didn't want to erase it since I had spent so much time...) At any rate, my analysis was more revealing what I personally would do, and not exactly a prediction of other people.”
I’d be surprised if you’d spent more than five minutes on the scumtactics guess.

7 – “I'd agree here too - Fenchurch's posts do in fact get longer after the pressure, but who wouldn't spend more time defending themselves?”
I think this is a good example that he’s trying to please everyone. “Yes he could be scummy, but then again maybe not.” Doesn’t really help much.

Aand, that’s all I could find interesting to me. Above all, I really don’t think he’s scummy. Why do you people get all over his self-vote? How is that scummy, it wouldn’t help scum or town.
Yay.

[lifeofpie]

It was kinda by your request, to write a couple sentences about people. That and folks saying that I haven't contributed much. I'm just doing these sorta casually, so don't expect me to finish for a while. I'l probably leave yours until last because It's kinda daunting to go through all of your posts. Also, I am waaaaaay too lazy to put stuff in quoteboxes.

"Okay so here is an example of an argument where I will need a bit more explanation to persuade me. What do you mean by, he has convoluted the game?"
A quickie - Drifter claimed vanilla, said he might be a power (hungry) role.

[lifeofpie]

Although I know it does not mean much, I'm just posting to say I can't post till Friday.


...

[lifeofpie]

Lurkers: pretty much everyone except Fenchurch.

[lifeofpie]

Sion

- He didn’t really post anything of value.

Thegeckoj

- “i find the whole claiming the vanilla townie thing pretty suspicious as well. especially when it was pointed out that he shouldnt have done that he tries to make it seem like he hasnt revealed anything. i think if he was really pro-town he would have stated that, not his specific role(which i believe to be a lie)”
- I agree with this. Therefore I can’t really agree with you, Fenchurch, that he was covering up a bandwagon vote.

- “but if he comes up scum i will have a pretty good idea who likely is his partner.”
- Um, pray tell, who?

- “i feel we have a good enough idea and i think our chances of him being scum are better than your 50/50, more like 80/20.”
- I never really like the idea of this kind of talk (posting chances, I mean). I feel we really can’t just do this as we don’t really have some kind of base.


All in all, I can't really get a tell off of this guy. The players combined have had few posts.

[lifeofpie]

I will try to organize better, but I doubt that that's going to happen.
On another vein, why aren't some people voting?

[lifeofpie]

So I have read the game trough two times. Once when not knowing Drifter alignment and second time knowing it. Hmm, where to start? It would be best to try to explain Drifter's actions and what I think was behind them.

Wow. Twice.

When you look Drifter game from the beginning to the end you can see clear pattern in one thing - he is a newbie in this game (at least online game). Asking about the game concept, making not so clever statements (whet

h

er he is a scum or not!), and not really contributing to the game that much.

Lot of talk have been going on about Drifter's townie/vanilla townie/I might be cop/doc -claim.

Why would scum claim vanilla townie in the early stage of the game?

No real reason, only if you aren't clear of the game concept you might do that.

Um, what if they aren't clear that this will do something for them and think it will?

Why would townie claim vanilla townie in the early stage of the game?

No real reason neither, only if you aren't clear of the game concept.

They could be over reactive.

You can make your own decision which one do you think the reason is, but making the lynching decision based on this is like flipping a coin - pure luck.

Yes, true, but we're on day one.

Again people bring up the case of Drifter bringing up this deadline thingy. For my eye that also strikes as newbieness. One question was okay, but asking it twice got other players on their toes. Again a stupid thing to do, but can you really say it was because Drifter is a newbie scum or newbie townie? For my eye Drifter actions strike as him not knowing what is proper to ask, just because he is new to this game.

Yeah, sure, I didn't really think much on that either

To answer Fenchurch's (only FC now on) question would I had voted for Drifter? I can say that I would have given him a vote to pressure him to explain his actions, just like some players have made also. But I wouldn't be into lynching him, because the accusations made against him aren't really waterproof and there are other more suspicious players that have had the opportunity to slip under the radar and people who's statements should be looked more closely.

I personally think he's a good candidate for d1 lynch.

The best example is Chapter 5 (only C5 now on). If you look as his contribution into the game you see what I mean. He accuses FC of making fluffy posts and the same time he makes posts (rare posts I would say) that make now sense or are there to just that he can say I have posted something. First he went after FC with accusations that had really no more or less than zero base. He saw bandwagon rising after Drifter and saw it best to put his vote somewhere before people would wonder why isn't he voting no-one. This was one of those fluffy votes that I consider even worse that fluffy posts.

I hear you, but problems have occured, as C5 (blatantly stolen) doesn't really respond too much to anything, not even questions directed at him.

Call this gut and nothing else, but I'm convinced you're

[

ShadowLurker)

]

scum

I found interesting that C5 finds ShadowLurker the most scummy in the moment but don't have anything to back it up. I trust also my guts, but really C5 should have something to back his actions. I still think this is again this 'Whoo look I'm here, not voting the townie who's gonna get lynched' -kind of posts.

FOS Chapter 5

Yeh, I think he backed it up later with a small summary of SL's posts. I should prolly read up the page again (aaargh).

Then when I was going trough the game the second time some odd posts hit me from FC.

In below situation Drafter was L-1.

thegeckoj: If we lynch Drifter today and he flips town, then based on the current information who would you judge most scummy? Do you think it is time to lynch Drifter yet, and if not, what should we be waiting for?

Artem: Hmm... could you answer the same two questions as above, please?

This sounds very badly of scum to fishing who to NOT nightkill. "Tell me who you find suspicious so I can leave him alive to be hanged next day."

Wow, I actually have to agree with this. I didn't see it at all. Do you think there's a specific reason she's only asking TGJ & Artem?

And other one after ShadowLurker (SL) unvoting:

That said, I still think Drifter is probably the best lynch we have at the moment, and I'm not sure why ShadowLurker is backing off now. I don't see the benefit in waiting for a replacement: either we think what Drifter has done already is scummy enough to lynch him, or we don't.

And still no vote from FC to Drifter! It really looks that FC waits people to do all work for her that she can say next day: "I didn't vote for the townie. Look no vote from me to him! Look I defended him!" Bullshit FC bullshit!

Such language. Okay, I can agree with this too. Except I don't wanna vote for FC! He's the most postyness person we have!

And again same situation in the following quote:

A Drifter lynch is still appealing because so many players have given their opinions about him. If he flipped scum, that would pretty much clear some of the players who were on his wagon. But if he flipped town, I don't think that would clear or condemn anybody, and I can see that happening too.

Again implying it would be good to lynch Drifter to get some knowledge and again she doesn’t herself give a vote. Strange, very strange.

FOS Fenchurhc

Okay, then we come to thegeckoj. He replaces into the game and what is the first thing he does? He puts Drifter in L-1 situation! Two posts from him and second he puts player hanging in the edge of lynching. Not really a great fan of this move. I hate it! If someone would have dropped the hammer thegeckkoj could have gone into the day 2 just posting two posts. Viuuuh, scummy move at is best.

FOS thegeckoj

Yes, but I think this could be used with both scum and town.

lifeofpie - Man with lazy attitude. Trying people to cast their votes which could be seen as trying to hurry the lynch without giving proper reason why they should do so. Not liking his playing style and he doesn't pop out very protown in my eye. Have to look more carefully his posts after this one. I have some hunch that there were something suspicious about his posts. Coming back to you later.

OMGUS!

Vote: Petunho

Wait...
Anyway, it's a contest between laziness and Real Life (TM) (I'm having difficulty beating the fourth boss), so... yeah.
Anyway, you should know that I can be tongue-in-cheek.

Yep, cannot argue with that. Behind my argunment there is a thought that if you give a vote for someone and he gets lynched you cannot back up by saying "It was only for pressure". Quite confusing theory all in all from me.

I got it, I think.
Thass all fo noww.

[lifeofpie]

@ Random and Artem: I already had my vote on Petunho, so it doesn't make a difference.

[lifeofpie]

Also, I think the fact that Drifter went through the process to figure out what a vanilla townie is is not scummy. I don't see how this could be either a scumtell or towntell.

[lifeofpie]

Unvote

Um, gecko, that last paragraph sounded reeeaalllyy scummy.

[lifeofpie]

All I can do right now is to post saying my posting will be minimal for the next week.
Oh, and I think "reply if you are mafia" was a completely random, irrelevant, and joking post.

[lifeofpie]

I don't see how you could possibly be bored. All you have to do is take a glance at the proceedings and type one or two sentences. If it was a non-virtual game, I could understand. In this case, my only problem is a shortage of topics.
Peace, all.

[lifeofpie]

An interesting scence is seen in the sheen of the sunlight in the center of the small city. A small dinosaur is angrily shaking a relatively large, inert gem. The green, cute dino kicks it away in disgust. It then looks around for something else to vent its anger on. It sees Nausicaa, but she is flying overhead on her glider, and the squirrel thing looks dangerous. The dino's search for pie also continues...

I think I shall go back and read some more.

[lifeofpie]

BTW, random, I was only doing that to you because its fun and diamonds are the strongest solid.
Also, I turned on the TV a few seconds ago and saw House on. Great show.

This is probably a bad idea, but here goes.
House enjoys saying that everybody lies.
One of the dudes comes in a couple minutes late and says 'sorry I'm late, my car broke down.' House knows that this is a lie because normally this person would not bother apologizing if he wasn't guilty of something. Using this interesting idea in life, we could say that Drifter might not have claimed if he was not scum.
Just throwing this idea out there.

[lifeofpie]

You are right, the case isn't strong. However, it's about the best we have. I don't have my vote on petunho solely because I'm not in a rush. If a deadline comes up, I think I will place my vote on him.

[lifeofpie]

Also, I honestly don't feel like giving drifter the benefit of the doubt.

[lifeofpie]

I have little qualms with voting gecko, but I thought think was contributing well earlier in the game. (Or halfway decently, at least).



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[lifeofpie]

Repeat after me.
Quicklynch bad.

[lifeofpie]

*sigh*
That word again.
I guess you could say it's boring.
Well, I don't exactly know if putting a second day up would help much...

[lifeofpie]

How about C5 instead?
I feel C5 has conributed less.

[lifeofpie]

Well, with that, I will vote

Vote: Chapter5

No offense to the mod, as it isn't his fault, but this game is going rather slowly.
I think another replacement will simply slow things down.
If C5 comes back, I will reconsider.

[lifeofpie]

This is getting way too slow, and my main worry is that a replacement will not help to speed things up much.
Think, I want to hear SOMETHING that shows you give a damn (or maybe C5 posting something scummy). by tomorrow or I think I will be in the mood to hammer.

[lifeofpie]

What?

[lifeofpie]

No, I meant if C5 posted something scummy I wouldn't vote for think.
*crosses fingers*

Unvote, Vote: thinktank

[lifeofpie]

Wait, did I miscount?
I'm not sure that's a hammer.

[lifeofpie]

Ah, yes, I understand your reasoning about my quicklynch ideas.
Perhaps I was getting tired.
I did change my mind a few times, I wanted some progress.
I would rather have lynched C5, but that apparently wasn't going to happen.

[lifeofpie]

All I can say right now: OMG.
Not what I was expecting at all.
On the lynch, I mean.

The nightkill is an intelligent one, I believe that they are removing our ICs to make us with less support.

[lifeofpie]

My ipod doesn't cut and paste, so I'm going to take a few posts here.

I think it's lifeofpie. 'Nuff said?

Vote: lifeofpie

No.
Lame reason.

[lifeofpie]

Well there was him trying to nudge us away from thinktank, and rather lynch Chapter 5 on very slim reasons. (

Mod: How is the replacement process for Chapter 5 going?

)

I honestly think that the motivation for either lynch was very slim.m

[lifeofpie]

Also, this would make C5 a confirmed townie as Artem said, right?
With two mafia and one dead, an inactive mafia member would make no nightkill.

[lifeofpie]

Is that your defence lifeofpie? "Neither of the cases were that good; and look, chapter 5 is probably confirmed innocent now"

The first part is my defense. Second part was something seperate I stated because I felt that it would be useful to people.
Also, I already stated I was getting impatient.
Fenchurch, you are attempting a quicklynch now. I do not believe that you were for one on day 1. Why so hasty now? Didn't you yourself say that more info is always good?
What kind of defense do you want? You have me backed into a corner, noose in your hand. Anything I could say you'd just attempt to turn against me, or whoever is scum. I won't bother voting because it would likely be called an omgus by you. You're probably going to type some indignant response to this post explaining how I am even scummier.
You are one of many. I just think you're worst. I honestly can't guess at who is scum because you all suddenly decided to quicklynch, which is dumb.
Fen and Petunho are my top suspects right now.
Although I think it could be Artem, I doubt it.
No read on gecko really, either.

[lifeofpie]

Wow, that was a long rant.

[lifeofpie]

I didn't want to vote think because he was IC and I figured that he would likely be able to assist us more.
Why was think a better lynch than C5?
I worked with what I had.

[lifeofpie]

Yes, it does. And the sudden change of mind from no quicklynch to lynch is too. Sounds great.
Oh, well.
Can we spur some kind of discussion? Everything I say is being read biasdly (how do you spell that?) so there's no way I'm going to be able to start one.
And yes, I changed my mind. Se la vie.
I didn't really think that think was actively lurking because I was having problems at the time in real life. This lead me to believe that he just didn't have time to post thoughts. Also, I still don't believe it now, because if he was active, wouldn't he have tried to defend himself?

[lifeofpie]

Do most noob games have inactivity problems?

[lifeofpie]

np, I'm not in a hurry

[lifeofpie]

Thank you for noticing about my B-day.
Lynching me isn't honestly going to bother me that much, as long as you take out the remaining scum.
It's strange, it seems the entire forum is going slowly, not just this game.
I don't really post as regularly as I feel I could.

Petunho, I don't believe you can ask gecko why he isn't hammering but not having voted yourself.
Is there something I'm missing here?

Random: a mafia lynch on D1 is rare. Sorry if my feelings expressed that I was too surprised. Alos, is it necessary to repeat yourself? I mean, one post right after another to expand on what you just said makes sense. (I'm talking about post 462 and 457) However, three days apart and a post in between doesn't really make sense to me.

[quote=petunho]We had a lynch so C5 cannot be scum.[/quote]
This confuses me. What exactly does this mean?

Scumlist:
Gecko: doesn't vote now but voted quickly before? screams to me like someone trying to not look scum.
Petunho: I don't believe you can ask gecko why he isn't hammering but not having voted yourself. This kinda screams hypocrite at me. This may also be somewhat OMGUS

Everyone else:
Fenchurch is kinda rising then falling again. makes me hesitant to attack her.
Artem: plays cooly, I can't get much of a read
C5: likely to be town
random: I had town read before, now I'm kinda neutral.

Also, I have one last defense that I am not eager to use, as it is WIFOM. I have decided that I'll face the punishment.
IF I WAS SCUM, I would not have been so obviously dumb as to go back on my opinion. I think. Honestly, I've never played scum in a mafia game.

[lifeofpie]

Thanks Artem. I don't think anything lifeofpie has said today can make up for his actions yesterday, but it felt a bit like I was launching a one-woman assault.

You could be the next Lara Croft.

[lifeofpie]

Well, Petunho said he'd vote...?

[lifeofpie]

I am vanilla, no ice. Nothing more, nothing less.
Hi kairyuu!
Arguments are annoying, so none of that unless necessary, plz.

[lifeofpie]

Oh, well, I guess that was an exceedingly stupid move on my part. If think flipped town, you would have lynched me. Well, beginners luck rulez!
Good luck town.
Also, I stand by my WIFOM, because I think I would have been more careful as scum.

[lifeofpie]

I am kinda here, but it's alright I got lynched as I've been distracted. I really enjoy mafia, but I am worried my sporadic behavior detracts from others' enjoyment.

[lifeofpie]

Just saying hi.