Newbie 1463--Game Over!

Majiffy · Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:01 am

VOTE: cxinlee

Not a big Chelsea fan (Arsenal!) but anyone who attacks an association football fan deserves a vote.

Majiffy · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:45 am

Now, now, Bulba. You know what happens to people that vote me.

They die.

And that'd be a real shame, because then I'd have to put on my kids gloves, not insult people, and "instruct"...

We don't want that. No one wants that.

Majiffy · Post Post #35 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:42 am

In post 17, Bulbazak wrote:Is that a threat Jiffy?

Yes.

Yes it is.

In post 31, LightOfAngel wrote:So how do we know when we're out of rvs?

When I say we are.

Vote Banakai with me. We need bigger wagons.

VOTE: Banakai

Majiffy · Post Post #39 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:55 am

A+ would endorse again.

Majiffy · Post Post #46 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:05 pm

In post 42, Bulbazak wrote:Because of this, there are players, such as BBMolla and myself, who will policy lynch any player who quickhammers.

I, on the other hand, fully endorse a good quickhammer or two, done properly and with a touch of humor.

Majiffy · Post Post #57 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:54 am

In post 50, cxinlee wrote:yeah atm town is in huge danger of scum voting Banaki (assuming he's town).

Let's hope scum slip and don't pounce on this chance.

Considering we don't start D1 at LYLO, a quickhammer would just out scum.

So it's not really a "chance" to pounce on.

Also, why does your post look like an advertisement for scum to come in and hammer?

In post 54, Bulbazak wrote:Nobody cares about you.

Harrumph!

In post 54, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 50, cxinlee wrote:yeah atm town is in huge danger of scum voting Banaki (assuming he's town).

Let's hope scum slip and don't pounce on this chance.
^Scum.

I'm glad we agree.

Majiffy · Post Post #63 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:34 pm

Just so you know, in the future, one doesn't wave a bag of candy in front of a child and say "Good thing there's no dumb children around trying to eat this poisoned candy!"

Because no dumb child will eat that candy. Only the smart ones that have been secretly poisoning themselves for years to enjoy that snickers.

Majiffy · Post Post #76 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:38 am

VOTE: cxinlee

Majiffy · Post Post #90 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:04 am

In post 88, Kassadin wrote:VOTE: kassadin

Uh

Majiffy · Post Post #93 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:09 am

Code: Select all

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Vote tags.

Majiffy · Post Post #100 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:31 am

In post 97, Hannah26 wrote:I thought self voting was a bad idea - why would anyone self vote??

Reaction tests, or as a gambit to make players think they're town, etc.

Generally a bad idea unless you really know what you're doing.

In post 99, Purple Bananaa wrote:bangwagon

Majiffy · Post Post #108 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:58 am

Essentially a prod dodge.

I think Cxinlee is a good lynch for the day, and we could definitely use the flip to liven up discussion.

Majiffy · Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:53 am

In post 109, Purple Bananaa wrote:Why is Cxinlee a good lynch?

Play that simply doesn't make sense.

In post 114, cxinlee wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: majiffy
a) OMGUS
b) pushing for my lynch early in the game
c) Aware that I am baiting a quickhammer, then spoils the play
d) Hasn't really helped town at all, other than being a SE.

a) Ok.
b) So... OMGUS.
c) You spoiled your own bait by announcing it.
d) So... OMGUS.

Glad that we're all aware you have no reason for voting me.

Majiffy · Post Post #135 (isolation #13) » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:46 am

In post 132, cxinlee wrote:majiffy:
a) cool
b) Uhhh no. Why so early? You want to liven up discussion, but an early lynch won't give much info.
c) No, you told everyone that it wasnt a "chance" to quickhammer, essentially ruining the play.
d) wut? Anyway this accusation is opinion-based, no need to address this one.

B) Yes it will.
C) And the way you set it up, no scum was going to quickhammer anyway. The only quickhammers being made would have been derptown.

Majiffy · Post Post #142 (isolation #14) » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:39 pm

In post 137, cxinlee wrote:majiffy, sure it was bad, but there was a chance newbscum would hammer. Until you made that post.

I

seriously

doubt it.

Majiffy · Post Post #148 (isolation #15) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:56 am

You should probably hammer him, considering deadline and such.

Also because if he flips town, I'm going to tunnel on you all of day 2!

Majiffy · Post Post #150 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:45 am

Not in a game that has only made 7 pages in almost 2 weeks.

Majiffy · Post Post #152 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:44 pm

More or less, yeah.

Majiffy · Post Post #183 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:40 am

Yadayadayada lack of NK spec isn't going to help us at this point, and might draw out PRs, so lets not do that anymore.

Majiffy · Post Post #184 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:42 am

VOTE: Purple Banana

I'm ok with parking my vote here for a while.

Majiffy · Post Post #186 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:29 am

Fencing the Cxin wagon and then opening the day with that whopper post about the doc.

Majiffy · Post Post #190 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:42 am

Unlike the many players I play with commonly, I'm not big on meta.

I'm going to sit here with my vote for a bit. You could join me if you'd like.

Majiffy · Post Post #194 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:15 am

Your question in hindsight should have been more like "Ok what the fuck happened?", or a statement like "there are too many variables to accurately speculate as to the lack of night kill".

And no, on this site, most games are generally worded neutrally, such that non-player game speculation can be kept to a minimum. Some mods have been known to put setup-privy information into the flavor, but it is a rare occurrence and players are usually warned ahead of time.

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All of that aside, your question is suspicious because of the fact that you automatically jumped to doctor, ignoring bulletproof, jailkeeper, mafia nks, etc.

Majiffy · Post Post #209 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:53 am

In post 206, Aloke wrote:
In post 194, Majiffy wrote: All of that aside, your question is suspicious because of the fact that you automatically jumped to doctor, ignoring bulletproof, jailkeeper, mafia nks, etc.
How is that suspicious? Unless mafia got rb'd by the jailkeeper, they aren't any more informed than town on what happened last night. So there's no reason why scum are more likely to come to the conclusion there is a doc than a townie.

Go look at the setup again.

Majiffy · Post Post #217 (isolation #24) » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:57 am

In post 213, Aloke wrote:Looking at the setup. I believe you're trying to say that he jumped to the conclusion there's a doc because mafia have a roleblocker and he knows that because he's scum. Except if he or his mafia buddy were roleblocker, then BP and Jailkeeper or possibilities too since roles or chosen using one row or
column
. So again, if this was simply a case of the mafia NK failed, mafia won't know whether they hit BP or hit a Jailkeeper/doc target. Therefore, it's null that Purple came to the conclusion there was a doc.

I don't think newbscum is going to go "Oh, we were probably jailkept/hit a BP". Newbscum usually doesn't think of that; they go right to a doc save and try to get towncred for pushing for confirmed town.

In post 213, Aloke wrote: I won't lie, a lot of what I'm doing probably does look like "white knighting" from an outside perspective. But I'm not looking for town cred here, and haven't used my defense of Cxin as an argument for why I'm town. I just didn't think he was a good lynch. The reasoning behind lynching him was bad, and I felt like I should point out the faulty reasoning. Hannah was a better lynch yesterday, and LOA is a better lynch today. I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch Purple, just that he isn't nearly as scummy as LOA.

Is there anyone you don't think is scummy? You just named half the living players as viable lynches.

In post 216, Hannah26 wrote:You've only got one vote hardly the whole game against you... You look like you're looking for an easy way out which is even more suspicious...

If you think LOA is suspicious, why don't you place your vote there?

Majiffy · Post Post #226 (isolation #25) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:10 am

In post 221, Aloke wrote:Meh. Where I used to play, people automatically assumed that the lack of night kill meant the doctor successfully saved somebody. Maybe people assumed the same thing from where Purple used to play.

Was it... EM?

*Shiver*

In post 221, Aloke wrote: I find LOA/Hannah scummy and that's it. All my null reads are viable lynches as well if I can't rally support for lynching my scum reads. I'm sure you feel the same way about your null reads.

No. I try not to lynch null reads unless it's early in the game and they're a serious detriment to town (policy lynch).

And even then, I usually just pray for a vig.

Majiffy · Post Post #231 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:47 am

I don't think LOA is scum.

Majiffy · Post Post #239 (isolation #27) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:19 pm

Why is Banana lurking the wagon away?

In post 232, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 231, Majiffy wrote:I don't think LOA is scum.
Why not?

This isn't newbscum behavior. Especially the bit about affording a mislynch.

In post 234, LightOfAngel wrote:@Majiffy #231 why are you defending me?

Because I don't like dumb wagons.

Why do you seemingly have a problem with me defending you? And more importantly, why are you seemingly *effort*ing suddenly when there's a wagon forming on you?

Majiffy · Post Post #244 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:47 am

In post 241, Hannah26 wrote:@Majiffy lurking the wagon away meaning??

He's sitting there whistling a little tune like there isn't a wagon forming on him.

In post 242, Banakai wrote:How am I "lurking the wagon away" when I said I agree with it and had posted recently

You should learn how to spell your name a little better.

Majiffy · Post Post #246 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:33 pm

Majiffy · Post Post #264 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:59 am

UNVOTE: Banana

Looking at two potential setups, then, assuming Banana is telling the truth;
1) RB + Goon v Cop + Doc
2) Goon + Goon v Cop + VT

With the second option also requiring a scum NK.

So, frankly, doctor should claim for a total of 2-3 clears, plus the inability for scum to fakeclaim later.

If Doctor claims and there is a tracker, or if another PR exists, they should claim immediately to force the CC.
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Assuming RB/Goon v Cop/Doc, scum will either RB the cop and kill the doc or RB the doc to kill the cop. Either way, we go into the next dayphase with at least 1-2 clears.

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If, of course, Banana is lying, he's already doomed himself following the above.

Majiffy · Post Post #267 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:32 am

So you'd rather have a (useless cop/unverifiable fakeclaim) while scum kill go off killing possible PR(s)?

Just so we have things clear, here. Because scum already know the setup, now, or otherwise will be able to figure it out relatively easily. So while they have little to gain from any other PR outtings, we have a lot to lose in the way of locking scum in place and/or POE.

Majiffy · Post Post #269 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:55 am

Claiming doesn't really help the scumteam much.

Meanwhile, I've articulated how it helps us immensely.

So, I mean, you can either prove my arguments wrong or offer support in favor of your arguments in other ways than "nuh uh!" and "I'm right lol!"

Majiffy · Post Post #271 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:13 am

In post 270, Bulbazak wrote:I have given reasons why there should be no more claiming. With a cop, the only other PR we can have is doctor, and you don't want that role claiming, since it is more helpful to the town while scum are guessing where it is.

Vs. having another clear to work with during the day?

Explain why it is 'more helpful' than the aforementioned.

In post 270, Bulbazak wrote:The only reason we should be having claims are from roles that could CC the cop. The doctor should not claim, because by claiming, they will put a giant target on their back from scum, and if they exist, that means scum have a RB, and both roles will be neutralized tonight. It is better to keep scum guessing in this regard instead of giving them a road map.

Scum already have a roadmap. And if Banana is fake claiming, we could be potentially giving him a free pass right into LYLO.

Majiffy · Post Post #272 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:14 am

So we're back to you not addressing anything of any importance or relevance.

Why don't you go through my original post and argue against my statements, point by point.

Majiffy · Post Post #274 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:30 am

Oh that's right, we have a doc save too.

So that's a possible of 4 total confirmed town. Which puts us at a near-autowin scenario.

Majiffy · Post Post #288 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:08 pm

Jesus Christ, they're all scum.

Every single last one of them.

Majiffy · Post Post #290 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:18 pm

In post 286, Aloke wrote:I'm actually going back to the LOA/Hannah scum team. Guyett is very likely to be town, especially after he unvoted Purple at L-1 so that he could vote me instead. I mean, Purple was pretty much doomed at that point, and Guyett could have very well derailed his lynch. Not a very wise or attractive move for scum.

So a player looks like they're going to be lynched and you think hopping off the wagon is a townie thing?

Because it's not advantageous for scum to be off the wagon of someone who flips town? So they can say something like "hey I tried to lynch

this

player instead!"

No scum motivation at all?

To that?

Ok.

In post 286, Aloke wrote:Majiffy's aggressiveness this game seems townish. I don't see scum being so eager to tunnel townies so hard and to put that much effort to getting them lynched. That's just a sure way to draw attention to yourself.

Playstyle is not alignment-based.

Also it's a great scum play. I can lead the town around by their noses if they're dumb enough to follow me. All the way up to, and maybe even through, LYLO.

I've done it before. I'll probably do it again sometime.

In post 286, Aloke wrote:Also, his interactions with Hannah don't seem like scum/scum. So if I'm right about Hannah, then I'm probably right about Majiffy. Banakai is the only one I just don't have a clue about. If Hannah is scum, then I'd lean town him, but it's probably not a good idea to judge his affiliation entirely based on Hannah's affiation. Though if Hannah is town, then I believe he'd probably be scum just due to POE.

That's great. You haven't gotten a flip out of either of us. Maybe stick to waiting until people are flipped before you say X's A alignment means Y's alignment is B.

In post 286, Aloke wrote:Anyways,
Vote Light of Angel.
I doubt this will go anywhere, but it's worth a shot.

If you think Hannah is scum, why aren't you voting her instead?

Majiffy · Post Post #291 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:18 pm

In post 289, Guyett wrote:Who?
Also I agree with bulba... this isnt agro jiffy at all

I have to be nicer in newbies.

Which is why I don't IC, either.

Majiffy · Post Post #292 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:19 pm

Oops forgot the rest of the post.

Majiffy · Post Post #293 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:19 pm

In post 278, Bulbazak wrote:Let me put it like this. If we have a doc, scum have a roleblocker. If the doc claims, one of the PRs will be blocked, and the other will die, thus nullifying any use they can be to town. This is not the right time for a claim. The doc should lie low for now.

"I'm going to repeat everything Majiffy just said and then restate my differing point of view without actually offering anything in the way of supporting my differing point of view, nor will I put out why Majiffy's argument is wrong".

In post 279, Guyett wrote:there's pro's and cons to both sides bulba... pro's outway the cons for doc coming forward imo

"Watch me make a non-committal statement that could go both ways!"

In post 280, Bulbazak wrote:And scum are pushing that idea as well.

"Bold-sounding statement without any hard stances!"

In post 281, Guyett wrote:who do you think is scum?

"Ineffectual questioning!"

In post 282, Bulbazak wrote:Just did a reread of d2 and looked back at the d1 lynch. The paranoid part of me says 1 of the SEs are scum. The really paranoid part of me is screaming possibly both SEs (That's generally the part I lock in the attic and let loose during Halloween.). I don't like some of your actions throughout the game, but then some of your other stances don't make sense to me coming from a scum perspective. I think I'm going to lean town and place Majiffy as possible scum out of the SEs. I think it makes sense that he would play it the way he has as scum. I'm conflicted on LoA, but I don't think it's wise pursuing him as of now. Banakai is in the same boat as you. I'm leaning town on him. Hannah is a town read. I think there is definitely scum in Aloke.

Vote Aloke

I say we should hold off on any more claiming for at least a day. Let's at least try to nail the RB if it's doc/cop.

"Hedging stances on almost every player in the game plus a vote that has absolutely no actual support except 'lol definitely scum'!"

In post 283, Guyett wrote:Hmmm ok perhaps leave it a day then

"Lol I'm going to agree with you because you called me 'leaning town'!"

In post 284, Guyett wrote:vote is very good too

"Also I'm going to agree with your unsupported shit vote without actually placing a vote myself!"

In post 285, Purple Bananaa wrote:If things work out well then on the night phase the mafia will be scared to kill me just in case of a no-kill which will mean I can do an investigation, then after that it may be a good time to claim the other PR's.

"I'm just an idiot!"

Also, fyi, you won't get an investigation if there's a RB.

Majiffy · Post Post #298 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:41 pm

In post 295, Bulbazak wrote:Majiffy, I repeatedly stated why I objected. You just ignored them and then said I hadn't given any reasoning.

... Because you haven't.

In post 296, Guyett wrote:I agreed with his vote as I'm already voting aloke.... stop trying too hard.

I agreed with his not claim yet because unless its a unanimous decision it'll only help scum

I'm not trying hard at all.

Why are you voting Aloke?

Explain why unanimous vs not-unanimous decision affects how it may help scum.
Also explain why - if unanimously agreed would not help scum - scum would ever agree to it.

You're not making very good positions here.

In post 297, Guyett wrote:281 was a good response to 280... he said it was a responce to scum pushing the idea

But he didn't say who the scum was, or how they were pushing it.

And his next post regarding reads didn't mention the idea of claiming at all. In regards to

any

read.

So 281 was not a good response to anything.

Majiffy · Post Post #299 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:43 pm

HERE I'LL EVEN QUOTE IT AND USE REALLY BIG FONT SO YOU CAN'T MISS IT THIS TIME BULBA

In post 264, Majiffy wrote:UNVOTE: Banana

Looking at two potential setups, then, assuming Banana is telling the truth;
1) RB + Goon v Cop + Doc
2) Goon + Goon v Cop + VT

With the second option also requiring a scum NK.

So, frankly, doctor should claim for a total of 2-3 clears, plus the inability for scum to fakeclaim later.

If Doctor claims and there is a tracker, or if another PR exists, they should claim immediately to force the CC.
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Assuming RB/Goon v Cop/Doc, scum will either RB the cop and kill the doc or RB the doc to kill the cop. Either way, we go into the next dayphase with at least 1-2 clears.

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If, of course, Banana is lying, he's already doomed himself following the above.

REFUTE MY POINTS, OFFER YOUR OWN, BOTH, OR FUCK OFF.

Majiffy · Post Post #300 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:45 pm

Pagetop.

Cuz why not.

Oh, sure, be that way...!

Majiffy · Post Post #302 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:07 pm

In post 300, Majiffy wrote:
Oh, sure, be that way...!

Majiffy · Post Post #304 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:19 pm

In post 303, Aloke wrote:If he was looking to gain credit by pursuing another lead, then why didn't he do the same with Cxinee? In case you forgot,
Cxinee offered to hammer himself
before guyett scum read him. Maybe, just maybe, he's not looking to gain town credit by pursuing other leads. Otherwise, he would have let Cxinee hammer himself. That's the other reason I'm townreading him btw. I'm sure you forgot and assumed I'm calling him likely town because of this tell alone. Well I'm not. He's done other things that I think are townish, and it is those things in combination witht this tell that makes me think he is town.

Also, you're right. There is scum motivation to jump off the wagon. But there's a greater incentive to insure a townie's lynch which is why I find it more likely that scum stay on the wagon instead of off. More likely is the key word here.

If scum thinks the lynch is going through, they don't need to be on the wagon.

Your analysis is lacking. Look more at the reasons for getting on/off the wagons rather than just positioning alone.

VCA is a tough beast to master.

In post 286, Aloke wrote:Majiffy's aggressiveness this game seems townish. I don't see scum being so eager to tunnel townies so hard and to put that much effort to getting them lynched. That's just a sure way to draw attention to yourself.

In post 290, Majiffy wrote: Playstyle is not alignment-based.

Also it's a great scum play. I can lead the town around by their noses if they're dumb enough to follow me. All the way up to, and maybe even through, LYLO.

I've done it before. I'll probably do it again sometime.

In post 303, Aloke wrote: Well you're doing a great job this game so far if you are scum. You almost lead the lynch on one townie, and made a great contribution to Cxinee's lynch. Kudos to you if you aren't town.

I do a great job every game as scum.

In post 303, Aloke wrote: That's funny. I believe I realized this a tad bit sooner then you did.
"but it's probably not a good idea to judge his affiliation entirely based on Hannah's affiation."
I guess saying something along the lines of "I don't know what Banakai's affiliation is, but I believe Hannah's flip will give further insight" would have made it easier for you to understand what I'm actually saying.

Yet you go on to attribute reads based on reads of an unflipped player anyway.

In post 303, Aloke wrote: Because not one f*cking person has so much as glanced in her direction. She's just coasting along in the game, and everybody is just excusing her behavior as being noobish. Well I'm a noob. You don't see me coasting along. W/e, there's nothing I can do about it at this point.

You haven't made a case.

You haven't kicked and screamed.

You haven't pushed your vote.

If you aren't willing to put more in, then don't bitch about people not voting who you want them to.

In post 303, Aloke wrote:At least with LOA, there's a chance I can get her lynched. I do believe LOA is scum btw. Like Bulbazak, I was conflicted about her which is why I wrote her off as null. After reanalyzing the DP and having confirmation that Purple is town, I'm back to thinking she's scum. It's what makes most sense to me at least.

Why? Why is LOA scum? I haven't seen a single viable case for LOA scum yet.

Majiffy · Post Post #313 (isolation #46) » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:24 am

In post 305, Aloke wrote:You're not understanding what I'm saying.

If Guyett is scum trying to get townread by pursuing another lead, then his earlier hammer of Cxinee makes little sense since he had an opportunity to do the same thing there that he is doing here. At least there, he knew for certainty that Cxinee was going to be lynched. That has nothing to do with VCA.

Anyways, jumping off the wagon is a strong town tell in and of itself. I'll admit that. But that tell combined with his earlier hammer on Cxinee makes me believe it's likely he's town.

Nothing is for certain, especially not a weakly-formed mostly sheepwagon on D1.

Whether you want to believe it or not, Banana wagon had more momentum than Cxin's ever could have.

In post 305, Aloke wrote:*Sigh*. Where do you see my read on Banakai? You don't see my read on Banakai because I haven't read Banakai yet.

It's irrelevant; this entire section is just a bunch of hedged reads based on a flip of a player you aren't even pushing for:

In post 286, Aloke wrote:Also, his interactions with Hannah don't seem like scum/scum. So if I'm right about Hannah, then I'm probably right about Majiffy. Banakai is the only one I just don't have a clue about. If Hannah is scum, then I'd lean town him, but it's probably not a good idea to judge his affiliation entirely based on Hannah's affiation. Though if Hannah is town, then I believe he'd probably be scum just due to POE.

In post 305, Aloke wrote: Let's say player x cc's player y. Obviously player x's affiliation is dependant upon player Y's affiliation and vice versa. That doesn't mean though that you have a read on player x, it just means that depending on how player Y flips, it will help determine player X's affiliation. I have read Banakai in the same way you would a player who has been cc'd.

...Except there is no CC. And you haven't pointed out any hard associatives or disassociatives. So you have no logical grounding to make such a polarized read.

In post 305, Aloke wrote: Not everybody gets to lynch who they want. You have to learn to compromise with who you lynch, and I'm compromising with LOA.

Why are we compromising on LOA? Why aren't you pushing-asafsadgsafjhsag

You're either scum or absolutely, horrifically terrible at this game.

In post 305, Aloke wrote: I presented my case in post 202.

Learn to link. Offhandedly referencing posts makes for lazyman work no one wants to do.

Digging through pages of pages to find obscure posts is a pain in the dick.

I read your post. A lot of the things you're calling him scum for are more often than not traits exhibited by townies.
Also your belief that D1 mislynches composing all town doesn't happen is flawed. Happens a lot in games this size, actually. Town is scatterbrained and if they settle on a townie to lynch, scum is more than happy to stand aside and let it go.

Majiffy · Post Post #314 (isolation #47) » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:25 am

I still stand by the fact that we're better off with a claimed doc and doc target to give us a potential of 4 total clears. That's half the playerlist, with the other half composing 50% scum.

Majiffy · Post Post #325 (isolation #48) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:04 am

Doc claims, my refutations of Bulba's arguments are effectively a waste of space.

Waiting to see if there are any CCs to the doc claim.

Majiffy · Post Post #344 (isolation #49) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:52 am

In post 338, notscience wrote:I've also decided myself and my predecessor received different role pms, his being mafia

Why.

In post 339, notscience wrote:oh wait I didn't read this page I'm a dumbass

Yep.

In post 341, LightOfAngel wrote:So it looks like I'm the only one being voted now?

Yep.

Majiffy · Post Post #345 (isolation #50) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:52 am

I refuse to vote LOA, fyi.

Majiffy · Post Post #351 (isolation #51) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:28 am

In post 348, notscience wrote:
Plus I want to lynch majiffy

Come at me, bro.

In post 350, notscience wrote:I didn't want to reveal it because I thought bulba was the doc you don't just go "HEY SCUM X IS THE DOC"

I toyed with that idea. It was basically the only flaw to the claiming plan, but obviously it would have been anti-town to out that.

Majiffy · Post Post #352 (isolation #52) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:30 am

Also you didn't answer why you feel your predecessor was playing scummy, NS.

I want an answer to that.

Majiffy · Post Post #354 (isolation #53) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:38 am

And town doesn't do these things?

How do you know his minimalist comments were an attempt to blend in, rather than a lack of ability/anything to add?

Majiffy · Post Post #356 (isolation #54) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:54 am

VOTE: notscience

Majiffy · Post Post #359 (isolation #55) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:02 am

Ok. You "weren't sure" if your slot was legitimately useless or trying to blend in. And you assumed the latter.

GG.

Majiffy · Post Post #362 (isolation #56) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:04 am

Your turn.

Why am I scum?

Majiffy · Post Post #366 (isolation #57) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:33 pm

In post 363, notscience wrote:
In post 359, Majiffy wrote:Ok. You "weren't sure" if your slot was legitimately useless or trying to blend in. And you assumed the latter.

GG.
I've played with him before, I don't remember him being legitimately useless.

Try harder though.

So you've played with him as not-useless and found his uselessness scummy but you're supposed to be occupying a town slot?

I think not, good sir. I think not.

In post 363, notscience wrote: THE CASE AGAINST MAJIFFY

1) Only scum try to lynch notscience
2) OMGUS
3) His case against me is laughable and he's fighting hard to save his scumbuddy LoA

Majiffy · Post Post #371 (isolation #58) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:51 am

We could actually lynch NS.

Majiffy · Post Post #372 (isolation #59) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:51 am

Still a good 20 hours left.

Majiffy · Post Post #379 (isolation #60) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:25 pm

Or we could lynch NS and avoid this travesty altogether.

Majiffy · Post Post #378 (isolation #61) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:25 pm

Or we could lynch NS and avoid this travesty altogether.

Majiffy · Post Post #380 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:25 pm

Oh boy I'm double posting again.

Majiffy · Post Post #382 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:29 pm

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have to be up for work in 4 hours. Goodnight.

Majiffy · Post Post #393 (isolation #64) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:24 am

VOTE: Notscience

Can we start listening to the Jiffy now?

Majiffy · Post Post #395 (isolation #65) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:54 am

Like that'll happen.

Majiffy · Post Post #397 (isolation #66) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:58 am

Kk.

Do you think I'm town, now? Because you're talking to me like a townie.

Majiffy · Post Post #399 (isolation #67) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:09 am

Guyett and Hannah considering Bulb and Purple are confirmed town.

Majiffy · Post Post #400 (isolation #68) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:10 am

Unless it's Bulb and Purple, in which case, bravo best gambit ever.

Majiffy · Post Post #401 (isolation #69) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:10 am

Wait no tracker CC yeah they're confirmed

Majiffy · Post Post #403 (isolation #70) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:26 pm

UNVOTE: NS

Majiffy · Post Post #405 (isolation #71) » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:41 pm

No point in having my vote on you when no one else has even checked in.

4 to lynch, 2 scum alive, et al.

Majiffy · Post Post #418 (isolation #72) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:58 am

I probably wont be around for a little while. Superbowl, work, drinkin, etc. Busy week.

Majiffy · Post Post #426 (isolation #73) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:20 pm

Prod dodge. Where is everyone? Its fucking mylo.

Majiffy · Post Post #432 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:00 am

I told you, busy week.

What do you want to talk about in reference to them?

Majiffy · Post Post #435 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:32 am

In post 433, notscience wrote:
In post 430, Purple Bananaa wrote:I do find it a little strange how both Majiffy and notscience suddenly think each other are town.
I didn't think he was scum unless LoA was scum

And yet you lynched LOA like a twit.

Majiffy · Post Post #436 (isolation #76) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:32 am

In post 434, Guyett wrote:
In post 432, Majiffy wrote:I told you, busy week.

What do you want to talk about in reference to them?
opinions

Was this supposed to be a dialogue or a monologue?

Majiffy · Post Post #439 (isolation #77) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:05 am

Then why do we need to talk? And why aren't you voting Hannah?

Majiffy · Post Post #443 (isolation #78) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am

In post 441, Guyett wrote:Why arent you?
VOTE: hannah

My town alignment makes it kind of hard to be confident with only a 66% chance.

Majiffy · Post Post #444 (isolation #79) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:23 am

I'm ready to vote Guyett.

Majiffy · Post Post #447 (isolation #80) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:40 pm

Harumph, I thought you were voting Hannah too.

Now I'm uncertain again.

Majiffy · Post Post #448 (isolation #81) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:41 pm

I'll meditate on this and come back tomorrow.

Majiffy · Post Post #458 (isolation #82) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:18 am

In post 449, Purple Bananaa wrote:I'm still very unsure of who to vote for...

I personally feel that Guyett is town. What would be your reasons for vote for Guyett?

Didn't hold; thought NS was voting Hannah at the time I told Guyett to vote Hannah.

Majiffy · Post Post #459 (isolation #83) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:19 am

In post 457, notscience wrote:Really, do show where you thought my slot was scummy.

Do show proof that amished tells are scummy, and where using amished tells has lynched scum instead of town

Amished is a moot tell these days but the way you carried it out was suspect.

Majiffy · Post Post #461 (isolation #84) » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:25 am

Scrolling through ISOs for associatives didn't help me much.

I am disapponted.

Majiffy · Post Post #467 (isolation #85) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:11 am

Interesting circlejerk we've got going on.

Hannah are you assuming NS/Guyett scum? Or NS/Majiffy scum?

Majiffy · Post Post #477 (isolation #86) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:14 pm

Boy this is awkward.

Majiffy · Post Post #480 (isolation #87) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:25 am

Cuz I dunno which one I wanna vote for.

Majiffy · Post Post #482 (isolation #88) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:59 am

Is Hannah bussing you?

Majiffy · Post Post #483 (isolation #89) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:59 am

Speaking of, why aren't you voting Hannah?

Majiffy · Post Post #485 (isolation #90) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:29 am

In post 483, Majiffy wrote:Speaking of, why aren't you voting Hannah?

Majiffy · Post Post #487 (isolation #91) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:44 am

Righteo.

Majiffy · Post Post #489 (isolation #92) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:27 am

Hello Guyett.

Majiffy · Post Post #492 (isolation #93) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:32 am

Yep you know how it goes, us being the scum team we are.

Majiffy · Post Post #494 (isolation #94) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:35 am

Indubitably.

Majiffy · Post Post #496 (isolation #95) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:39 am

Well, if NS is scum, he's scum with you.

If you two aren't a scumteam, then Hannah is confscum.

Aka I'm still torn.

Majiffy · Post Post #498 (isolation #96) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:44 am

Yeah, that annoyed me.

Majiffy · Post Post #501 (isolation #97) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:05 pm

Jesus Christ I was looking for innocent child in the setup like "what the fuck is he on about, IC".

Majiffy · Post Post #502 (isolation #98) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:06 pm

In post 500, Bulbazak wrote:I don't think Hannah is scum, and therefore, I'm not going to vote her. That leaves one of the SEs as scum by PoE. I have a theory, but I keep getting held up by the attempted NK on my slot n1. I would imagine any SE would know better than to try to kill the IC on n1, since they're normally protected on the first night. I also have a problem imagining scum cross-voting at this point, especially when they are so close to winning. It's possible, but unlikely (Then again, we're dealing with NS-scum.). So the question is: Which SE would take the chance at shooting the IC n1? Is Guyett not experienced enough to know better? Or did Majiffy think that he towned it up enough to draw the protect? I think Majiffy is the only one who'd know better, but still shoot out of hubris, and in many ways, it fits with my read of Majiffy and NS distancing at the end of d2.

If you don't think Hannah is scum, then I either have to be scum with NS or Guyett.

I've had the chance to hammer with both now in the last 3 hours.

Majiffy · Post Post #505 (isolation #99) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:15 pm

If Guyett is scum, NS is scum with him.

I think they're both savvy enough to think I would be a likely doc target.

Majiffy · Post Post #518 (isolation #100) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:56 am

I'd say this is far from qualifying as flail.

Also I'm more inclined to lynch the Hannah I think.

Majiffy · Post Post #523 (isolation #101) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:35 pm

In post 521, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 518, Majiffy wrote:I'd say this is far from qualifying as flail.
What would you qualify it as then?

Typical NS behavior.

Majiffy · Post Post #536 (isolation #102) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:57 pm

Lesson learned: Always trust the JiffyStinct

^TM

in LYLO.

Majiffy · Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:16 am

In post 539, Purple Bananaa wrote:Even if we did lynch Hannah instead of NS we probably wouldn't have lynched Guyett. They played a good game.

In post 496, Majiffy wrote:Well, if NS is scum, he's scum with [Guyett].

E.G. I would have kicked and screamed against an NS lynch with a Hannah scumflip

Majiffy · Post Post #545 (isolation #104) » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:46 am

Preferred Hannah first.

Why were you so sticky with your vote? I was confirmed town by the end there.

Majiffy · Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:44 pm

In post 548, Bulbazak wrote:Majiffy: You were pretty obv. town, although I did get paranoid about you at a few points. I think my biggest criticism of your play is that you were not proactive. I can understand why you were not playing according to your usual aggressive playstyle, but that doesn't mean that you should be passive. When you did sink your teeth into something, it ended up being something of little consequence, such as whether we should mass claim. You were able to talk sense into me at the end, but if you were a little more forceful with your reads, maybe you wouldn't have had to.

I have a massive issue being as aggressive as I usually am in newbies due to the nature of the game, so I understand. I should definitely work on it; but I wouldn't expect any serious results until the next year or so. You know where to find me, elsewhere.