Mewbie 1491 ~ Day 1

[Orangeyoshi13]

/confirm

[Orangeyoshi13]

vote: tysker

cause you confirmed late how dare you

[Orangeyoshi13]

Sorry I haven't been around. Stuff happened. Anyway, what is happening in here I don't even. What I'm seeing is Xegarus tunneling TSO for the tiniest of things, and TSO retaliating with a relatively reasonable explanation. While it is a bit weird to mention your WC, I don't take much from it. That combined with my vote's utter uselessness on tysker...

VOTE: Xegarus

Do you have anything against TSO other than the WC thing, or is that it?

[Orangeyoshi13]

Do you have anything against TSO other than the WC thing, or is that it?

It was the scummiest thing at the time until Dreams sheep.

Can i ask why you are voting me? For tunneling?

Tunneling's part of it. I also don't like your read on Dream. After saying you thought he was scum, you haven't really backed it up, or followed up on it in any way. It's giving me bad vibes.

What are your reads right now?

[Orangeyoshi13]

I do see tunneling as a scummy behavior, it seems like trying to get someone lynched without thinking of other possibilities. Personally, I'm starting to see Xegarus as more town. He's started asking other people questions, and seems to be scumhunting.

UNVOTE: Xegarus

I'll go through the current posts and give reads in a bit.

[Orangeyoshi13]

VOTE: Dreamcatcher

I don't buy the whole reaction test thing. I also don't like him calling himself obvtown. Why would you do that? If you're town there's no real reason to say you're obvtown, your actions should say that. Right now they're pointing more in the scum direction. Care to prove me wrong?

[Orangeyoshi13]

Orangeyoshi - you say that town have no reason to say they're town, but when Xeg made a case against TSO based on that, you said he was tunnelling and focussing on little things. What's changed your mind/what's different about the case with Dreamcatcher?

TSO's thing seemed to me more like an idle comment than scum trying to be town. Dreamcatcher is not only calling himself obvtown, but being incredibly arrogant and incredibly scummy. TSO doesn't set off any alarms in my head. I hope that makes sense.

READS:
TOWN

JK: Scumhunting and asking questions.
TYSKER:

NULL

TSO: Haven't seen a lot from him as of late.
XEGARUS: Disappeared, but had started scumhunting.
NS: Not really leaning either way atm.
JACKAL:
BOO: 'cause he hasn't done anything

SCUM

DREAM: Above.

[Orangeyoshi13]

Hey shadow.... are you scum?

[Orangeyoshi13]

Spy confscum

UNVOTE:

VOTE: SPY

[Orangeyoshi13]

Oh no i've been found out

Really?

Anyways, back to voting Dream for me. My opinion of him still stands. Whether or not he's scum (which he probably is) he's not really helping anyone. (Least I don't think so)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dream

[Orangeyoshi13]

You kids have fun with your flash wagon, I'm going to sleep.

[Orangeyoshi13]

I figured out the quotes yay!

Fair enough, Xeg.

And yeah, it's obviously a joke whether shadow's scum or not. Hence yoshi's vote being the dodgiest thing since dodged bread.

Dodged bread is a thing where do I get it

I wish Dream would show up and post something. Also whoa where did this shadowspy wagon come from?

my view on the whole topic lately is this:

as JKMatthews said, Yoshi is just trying to get me out at the first chance he got, which makes sence, but it seems like he goes for anyone just to mabey get the attention off of him? I think im trying to say that he has no definitive opinion and hes easily swayed, so yeah.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Orangeyoshi13

Aren't things like this what I got wagoned for?

let me elaborate on that a bit:

if youre scum, youre trying to get the townspeople out as quick as possible, so you can win the game. this means that because he sways to whatever vote trend is happening at the moment and he doesn't go with what he thinks with his "gut feeling", than hes probably scum

heres an example: if, say, everyone goes for JKMatthews except for one person, who happens to be Xegarus, who is town mind you, he will probably stick with his opinion of voting whoever, but if he was scum, he would go straight to voting JKMatthews out, just so hes that much closer to winning

This logic could also apply to you. From what I've seen you jumped on my wagon just cause it's what the cool kids were doing.

hope that helps a little

As much as I don't like spy, I'm waiting on Dream to do something before moving my vote.

Post 136 for me simultaneously incriminates yoshi and clears shadowspy (scum trying to get away with the same joke he saw a townie make).
If yoshi ever flips town then shadowspy isn't remotely cleared by this logic...

Someone's sure of themselves. So what you're saying here is if I get lynched and flip town, there's nothing saying shadowspy is town?

[Orangeyoshi13]

Touche.

Orangeyoshi and TSO are the scum team. Dreamcatcher and shadowspy are trolls. Game over?

What makes you think TSO is scum? Similarly, what makes you think shadowspy is a troll?

[Orangeyoshi13]

Oh, after re-reading Dream's ISO I've decided he's trolling. However, it looks like he may be replaced with someone else. I haven't seen too much trolling from shadowspy other than post 126. Could you give more detail on that read?

[Orangeyoshi13]

Shadowspy looks scummy to me atm. He hasn't contributed to the game much (read: at all,) him saying I could be "manipulated" *shudder* sounds off, and he said he's scum. I think a double-bluff isn't out of the question. Saying you're scum can be used to make people think you're town, because what scum in their right mind would say they're scum? I'll be moving my vote to shadowspy if I notice anything else scummy. For now, he hasn't really said enough to warrant L-1.

[Orangeyoshi13]

Righto. There certainly are large amounts of WIFOM around the "I'm scum" comment, but I think it all just leads to a null read. What do you think of TSO's "not getting the joke"?

I honestly have no idea what to make of that.

And what inspired you to switch back to Dream from shadowspy? If Dream's just trolling, is there a better place for your vote?

As I said, my vote moves to shadowspy if he does something scummy. Otherwise, not really any other useful place for it imo.

[Orangeyoshi13]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dreamcatcher

That's L-1 people. Don't hammer without asking for a claim first

Your vote isn't self explanatory. Care to elaborate?

1) He admitted to being scum in a non-sarcastic manner.
2) He put me at L-1 immediately upon joining the game and thus I did the same to him.

He's clearly unequivocally trash and regardless of his role, it'd be beneficial to town to get him out of the game.

He is a mockery to the homo-sapiens species (assuming he is of our kind which is hard to believe as his behavior is neanderthal-like); just hammer him.

1) No, he didn't
2) This isn't a real reason to vote someone.

You've basically said that about everyone - any town reads?

1) Yeah he did.
2) Yeah it is.

I have a really strong town-read on Dreamcatcher ahuehue.

Seriously though, you're all acting scummy. I can see a JKmatthews/Spy team; everyone take a note on their buddying.

We haven't really been working as a team, and if you can note an instance of our "buddying", it would be much appreciated

Ooh I can. Pick me pick me!

Is that still all you have to comment on?

Who are you talking to?

[Orangeyoshi13]

That's L-1! DO NOT HAMMER BEFORE HE CLAIMS PLZ THNX

[Orangeyoshi13]

There's that scummy thing I was waiting on.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: shadowspy
L-1 DO NOT HAMMER UNTIL HE GETS TO CLAIM PLZ

[Orangeyoshi13]

I don't like how fast he put him at l-1 without a post from dream.

[Orangeyoshi13]

Also Xegarus you could have at least let him claim.