Newbie 1487: Mafia. [SCUM WIN!]

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Hello everybody!

To answer Dr. Pepper's question, I actually used to play on here almost 8 years ago lol. At least, I -think- it was on here lol. Either way, I used to play a long time ago

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Hello everybody!

To answer Dr. Pepper's question, I actually used to play on here almost 8 years ago lol. At least, I -think- it was on here lol. Either way, I used to play a long time ago

Why no vote?

Vote: Lord_Binky

For questioning my actions lol

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Dangit! What was I looking at? *is confused*

unvote: Lord_Binky
Vote: Disturbed_One

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I forgot to mention that there is one more thing bugging me. You said you had played mafia 8 years ago on some site, right? That means you have to have atleast little concept of how to play this game, but instead of proving your skills you decided to lurk. Your playstyle may just be that way or maybe I'm missing something, but I'm really starting to get some suspicions toward you.

Eight years is a really long time. I remember random terms like WIFOM, and lurking, but I don't actually remember how I used to play this game. So, as this is my first game I had no intention of jumping in guns blazing. I wanted to take my time and re-learn how this game works. Unfortunately, I can't just chalk my slow actions up to that. In the process of trying to train myself to make this place a habit, I forget about it and disappear. I'm not lurking, I just have attendance issues lol.

And in response to my non vote and then sequential vote: I don't have a reason or explanation. Joke vote = joke vote.

Unvote

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

PS. I re-read the thread and everyone is pointing out myself and a couple others for not being around. Where is Megatone????

I have a feeling that the ones who are pushing inactivity votes/scumminess are trying to distract from his absence. Why? I can only guess

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Gameplay,

I'm only bringing him up because he is the only one that has not been

mentioned

in your inactivity tirade. You called out some one who was gone with legit reason and myself for also being inactive. I'm more suspicious about the former. You have a reoccurring theme of padding your accusations with "Oh, they are new" and "I am new, so I might not be interpreting their actions clearly". While both of those statements are fairly true, it doesn't defer from the fact that you are accusing certain people of lurking and not others, specifically Megatone.

My hypothesis is that you (and others) are trying to call attention away from his inactivity by putting others on the defensive about theirs so that if he is truly inactive he can be replaced before a lynch and you won't be down a person. However, I do recall mention of us not being able to lynch due to inactivity, soooooo..... *shrug* lol

That being said:

Vote: Gameplay506

For real this time.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Clearly, it's because I don't think your

searching

for anything. You read too deep into my RVS actions, though you were correct to call me out on my initial vote since it was obviously not who I was trying to vote for. Aside from that, I feel like you were pushing the inactivity/lurking thing a bit too hard and since you never made mention of Megatone, it seems suspicious to me.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

You didn't vote (or mention) Megatone because he was inactive, fine, but someone who was inactive for a legit reason garnered your accusation. That is suspicious.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Please do elaborate. You complained about my inactivity. Well, I'm here now and we can have a nice conversation about it. You don't have to throw your vote but I'm sure other players would like to know what you are thinking. I can understand if you don't want to cast the vote against me because it would look like a revenge/tit-for-tat vote, but if your reason is legit, then please, do go on. You are the self proclaimed "only one searching for scum", so come sniff me out, bro.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

First of all: I'm a "She" and I prefer to be called Vida lol

Second of all: I'm not certain if I'm following why people are finding Nic suspicious. I stand by my GP vote, I just want to make sure I'm understanding everything.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Posting to say that I have been reading and keeping up with everything but don't really have anything interesting to say, just don't want to be re-accussed of lurking/inactivity. My vote still stands.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

That being said:

Vote: Gameplay506

For real this time.

Totally.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

He jumped onto the same bandwagon as you, GP and NO BODY ever explained to me why Squirtles was being seen as scum, even after I explicitly asked. If anyone said anything, it didn't make any sense to me.

Anyway, I'm stuck between voting GP or Lord_Binky, but I will wait to hear what LB has to be say for himself.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Why Achilles? His predecessor had a RVS vote on our deceased and then left never getting to change and/or alter said vote.

I'm not still not OK with the way you dropped the day 1 hammer so, to apply pressure....

VOTE: Lord_Binky

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I don't know lol.

However, this also causes me concern:

If I were to guess our Mafia right now, they would be NicCage and Achilles. I hope I made myself clear with dropping the Day 1 hammer that I'm not casting a vote for either just yet. We have two weeks to hash things out but now we have some real information.

Here, you sound pretty confident that our new player is scum, but just a couple posts later you aren't so sure.

Now that Achilles is in play my reads could swing on him. Time will tell.

What's that about?

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Achilles: I never voted for ILS. I voted L_B on accident, Disturbed for RVS, GP for serious and again L_B but for serious this time lol.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I now believe that GP and LB are both mafia.

LB, you really should have known that hammering would have granted you a crap ton of suspicion.

GP had bounced away from voting me to jump on the ILS band wagon forever and a day ago, and then LB snuck in at the end. I feel that their banter is a ruse and the fact that GP hasn't voted him says a lot. He jumped down everybody elses throat for inactivity and what not, but when the most suspicious thing done this entire game happens, he puts on a nice show to try and distance but then goes after some one else..... that's weird.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I believe that LB was either desperate or stupid to drop the hammer the way he did. As a mafia, there is only one reason to risk -not- lynching a townie and that's if it's super crazy suspicious. I don't believe LB got that memo. He got super excited and did what he did without thinking up a proper excuse because he didn't want to lose the chance to lynch said townie. If LB was townie, he would have taken his time to explain why he felt it was necessary to cast that final vote without really worrying if some one else changed theirs. It wouldn't have mattered since we had like 5 real days left.

We had plenty of time, he jumped the gun. Super suspicious.

And the fact that you are now defending him GP, it doesn't look too good for you either.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

EBWOP: If LB was townie (or smart scum).....

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I'm waiting for more people's input.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I tried to defend ILS, or at least figure out why he was on the fast track to being lynched but no body payed me any attention. You are suspicious in this situation because it's out of character for you to let something go this easily.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Out of character within the confines of this game. I don't need to know your whole life story to notice patterns in your play style and, furthermore, to notice when you are wildly changing tactics.

Also, I voted you Day 1 and that didn't work. I think you are both scum so it doesn't matter to me which one of you goes today. So, yes, you are absolutely right. I'm voting LB because I think he will be the easiest target. He also just happens to be MY target.

You keep arguing with me and laying down major hints that you think I'm scum (Basically because I think you're scum) but you still haven't voted me and even when you did Day 1, you changed your vote to jump on the ILS bandwagon. If you think I am that scummy YOU vote for me and actually stick with it this time.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Why did you so blatantly misquote me?

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

You are both my targets. Between you and him, he is the easiest. I'm going after him.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

And, last thing: It's not difficult to learn some one's play style when they are being as obvious about it as you are. You are the most vocal person in this game with almost double the posts of the 2nd highest poster. You have made yourself and your play style very noticeable.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Yeah, the easiest target between the two people I want lynched. So much shame.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Why would I be the only one responsible for his lynch?

Also, how many votes do we need for today? 3 or 4?

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

He started his own wagon. He should have known better. Besides, as a voter, I can't really "start" a wagon. You make the vote you feel is appropriate. What everyone does after that is up to them. Either they vote because they agree with me or they have their own reasons for finding him scummy. Not my fault. I refuse to take responsibility for that.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I tried to defend ILS, or at least figure out why he was on the fast track to being lynched but no body payed me any attention. You are suspicious in this situation because it's out of character for you to let something go this easily.

Show me your post where you did that. I don't see it.

My mistake. I make a full retraction of that post. I went back and looked and I apparently asked about Nic because he was the subject of most of the conversation at the time. Still, I asked about some one and was ignored. I feel like that goes to show that ILS' lynch wasn't really discussed and it did kind of come out of nowhere. It also goes to show how easily confused I am lol

First of all: I'm a "She" and I prefer to be called Vida lol

Second of all: I'm not certain if I'm following why people are finding Nic suspicious. I stand by my GP vote, I just want to make sure I'm understanding everything.

Thanks Disturbed. I'm normally pretty good about fact checking myself but every once in a while I go full blonde xD

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

wow... I messed those quotes all up lol

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I'm going to do a full read through in the next day or so, because I'm not really seeing what you're seeing, LB.

Off the top of my head I can say that GP was already scummy to me and him jumping onto the ILS bandwagon just made me that much more suspicious of him, as I have already explained. Megatone voted for ILS for RVS and never returned to change or justify his vote. You and I have never had an issue until today (day 2). So, as far as I'm concerned, there are only two people who legitimately slipped under my radar for that lynch. Not everyone is getting off scott-free, except for Megatone. Still, I don't remember seeing any major points of contention between you and anyone else Day 1 and I'm getting a very victimized feeling from you that I'm not sure where it's coming from.

I really wanted to unvote to make sure that I would have time to do my read through, but I'm pretty sure GP would find a way to jump down my throat for it (and for this), so..... blame him lol.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I'm glad you laughed. It was meant to be funny.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

And also, I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to LB. Stop taking my things out of context.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Achilles hasn't been particularly inactive, in my opinion. It's just that GP and I have been overactive with our petty squabbles, making everyone else look inactive by comparison lol.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Did my read through. I'm still where I was before. GP and LB are scum buddies. My focus is on GP as being scum and mostly his interactions with LB have led me to believe that they are in league together

GP was more than willing to get rid of DP because he was legitimately afk. I feel like that carefree desire to get rid of what he thinks are useless or stupid players would carry over to LB's shennanigans.

UNVOTE: I liek Squirtles

VOTE: DoctorPepper

I think he wont be from any help if he is afk so even if he isn't from the mafia we will still benefit from his lynch.

However, GP has been defending LB from the beginning.

I also don't think Binky is a scum.Yes he self-voted but I guess he thought at it as a joke and he most probably didn't even suspect that it would become a problem.As said in my earlier posts we are still inexperienced and so its normal to make mistakes But i agree that Binky should answer some questions and if he really is a towns person it wouldn't hurt him doing so.

GP voted me because of my joke RVS which at that point I had already unvoted and voted him. He had to be goaded to explain why he thought I was suspicious in the first place and then he wouldn't shut up about it and then picked this reason to vote me. The beginning of games are boring and slow so I forget they exists I don't come back for a while. Now, you can't get me to shut up lol.

So I will explain why Muerte is suspicious to me. So in the beggining he didnt take part in the RVS he just came to see hi, read our post and left. A few days later (3 if I have to be accurate) he came back making a really suspicious vote:

Vote: Lord_Binky For questioning my actions lol

I know its RVS but really, you came up with that?

After that again you didnt post for a day - the day that I started accusing you in being the mafia. You came back and pointed pointless reasons for thinking Im the mafia.

That makes me see that you dont like anyone who questions anything about you or thinks you are the scum. You get really defensive when we start posting or saying anything about you and that for me is one scum gameplay. So...

UNVOTE: DoctorPepper

VOTE: LaVidaensuMuerte

OK, that's fine, whatever. I never contested your vote on me. What weirded me out was the way you switched to ILS before the end of the page. ILS explained why you were scummy, he had the same reasons as me and just like you have done to me, you dismiss them and accuse the voter of not explaining. It's not fair and you're clearly trying to get other people to jump on the wagon as well with false information.

So I guess nobody thinks even for a sec that Muerte can be a scum. This way I will go with my second suspect - Squirtles . Right from the start you were suspicious to me and you gave me a really bad feeling even when I was reading your early posts, but suddenly you disapperared and I my suspicions towards you got to a dead end. Another thing is that you said 2 or 3 times while voting against me that I was suspicious but you didnt explain even once with what was I so suspicious. Thats why I accept Vida's vote cus atleast she explained with what I had been suspicious to her and so did Distrubed. You always get affected when somebody votes towards you and even as I saw now you started overreacting. We all have problems but still this is not the place where we should somplain. So now I will trust my intuition.

UNVOTE: LaVidaensuMuerte
VOTE: I liek Squirtles

LB made one vote between his RVS and hammer fiascos and he did so only because he was pressured to do so. He had done virtually no active scum hunting by this point and he still hasn't. He's just full of defensiveness and warnings.

Well Binky since I called Vida town in my last post, I suppose this means that between your two choices its obviously Nic right? Considering I havent out him in my do not lynch block. That seemed like a post just to seem active and demanding to prove youre helping town or something

I asked that question 22 posts before your last post.

It seems that the only way to satisfy NicCage and DP at the same time in multiple ways is like so:

VOTE: DoctorPepper

If suspicion can only be indicated by voting, then woe be to whoever has

two

suspects with that logic.

And then of course there is the hammer. You voted here with the same sense of carelessness as you did before and you have YET to explain what type of information you were trying to get out of ILS' lynch. So far you have done nothing ut attempt to defend yourself and then you just stopped defending yourself. It doesn't make sense. cna you take five minutes out of your day to just make sense? lol

UNVOTE: Doctor Pepper

VOTE: I liek Squirtles

Because why vote for you when I'm mildly suspicious when I can possibly catch you (or someone else) red-handed.

Consider this an info vote.

GP only expressed outrage at LB once and then for "whatever reason" has had no issue accepting LB's answers.

So I guess I am the first to post. From now on we need to be really careful! We have to lynch right or we will lose.

UNVOTE: Doctor Pepper

VOTE: I liek Squirtles

Because why vote for you when I'm mildly suspicious when I can possibly catch you (or someone else) red-handed.

Consider this an info vote.

To start of I want to ask you Binky...WTF?! Why did you have to hammer?? We still had left 5 days and that is more than enough to get more evidence. This is really shitty and even if it you aren't from the mafia this was a really bad move.

GP speaks of caution now and spends almost an entire page going back and forth with me defending himself and LB. I can almost safely say there is no one else in this game he has defended, let alone to that extreme. He constantly twists my words and takes my posts out of context by editing them in quotes. If anything, it's unfair. I have never done that to you or to anyone and I really, really do not appreciate it. You have been putting misinformation out there so people can conform to your agenda and thus far it has failed.

I am at the point now where (in the spirit of GP) scum or not, GP plays a dirty game and LB does stupid shit. I wouldn't be upset if either of them got lynched and flipped town. They are adding much more confusion and intrigue to this game than is necessary and that in itself is pretty scummy.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

GP..... when you learn to stop misquoting me, I will respond to you. Besides, it doesn't matter what you have to say about my post. It's about what every one else thinks. I have to convince them, not you. You can just keep talking yourself into a bigger and bigger whole.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

*****Hole

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I'm confused as to why that is important at the moment, LB.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

OK that's fine. I never took your self vote for anything more than a joke. It was others we inferred your joke vote (and mine) as something more than what it was.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Wait... who said DP is getting replaced? Last post mod made said he was being prodded.... Or did I miss something?

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Information from who? LB certainly isn't giving us any. >_<

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

I suppose we should come up with a plan of some kind. We need to start looking beyond LB. He's no longer participating so it's up to us if we lynch him or not. Basically, we all have to play prosecution and defense for him because he's given up. If people are thinking about NOT lynching LB, let's discuss who you would rather lynch. If those who are unsure are leaning more towards lynching LB we need to discuss whom we are going after depending which way he flips.

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

In response to situation b:

It all depends on when he made his switch. If there is a clear switch between Day 1 and now, then the chance is much higher that he is telling the truth. I feel like that is a very obvious statement but I have been gone for a little bit (working on some stuff for my upcoming play and other school work) and I needed to say something so I wouldn't get accused of lurking or get a prod or something lol. I don't remember when he made the switch and, frankly, I'm too tired to look. I will look tomorrow, or if someone else wants to do that before I get a chance to, that would be awesome

Still, I feel like we have been stuck on LBs situation for a bit too long. We really need to start discussing other targets or building a more solid argument against him. Not lynching is technically also an option, in my opinion, because at least at that point we know for a fact that we will only lose one towine instead of accidentally killing off two. While I do not really want to push for that, I am willing to play this cautiously but we are running out of time.

Unvote

[LaVidaensuMuerte]

Not gonna lie, was kind of surprised that GP didn't flip scum. Didn't really see a reason for a townie to purposefully misinform other players by means of misquoting or by accusing other players of being scum by doing the same things he did, especially since the main person he was doing that to flipped town as well. Maybe that's something he should look into not doing anymore. *shrug*