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TSO what's your case on Nzmobb?In post 268, OkaPoka wrote:I think none of us should try to lynch, or vote until Nzmobb comes back or gets a replacement. Then we can question him all we want.GMT+8-
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@mod: wrong name
I do not know what you are talking about...GMT+8-
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NopeIn post 277, OkaPoka wrote:Soooo, are you scum Xayzeck?
That doesn't mean you can't be though :bIn post 278, T S O wrote:omg Xayzeck, just because I beat you as scum that one time doesn't mean that I'm scum here. You know this.
Also hi!
So you had a case on my slot, yes?GMT+8-
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In post 277, OkaPoka wrote:Soooo, are you scum Xayzeck?
I'm pretty happy with TSO scumIn post 278, T S O wrote:omg Xayzeck, just because I beat you as scum that one time doesn't mean that I'm scum here. You know this.
Also hi!GMT+8-
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I'm not an idiot. Do explain why i would replace in and yell an unsupported scumread when my slot is under suspicion by a decent amount of the playerlist and i'm the only scum left in the game with nobody to defend meIn post 306, T S O wrote:He doesn't have any reasoning or any case, so it's horseshit.
tell me the scum motivation in thatGMT+8-
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You were absent most of D1 and scum got lynched. I've seen you do RVS tells, so I'm asking you this and you have not replied.In post 273, Xayzeck wrote:hey TSO what do your RVS tells say about D1?
You have not replied to this also.In post 274, Xayzeck wrote:TSO what's your case on Nzmobb?
I get that a weak unsupported scumread isn't exactly the towniest thing in the world, but I'm trying to figure you out. If you are town, I don't know why you aren't answering me. If you're scum though, that'd make a little more sense.GMT+8-
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I'm pretty sure you can put up a good towngame, TSO. Just because I'm scumreading you doesn't mean you don't need to answer my questions and try to get me to townread you.
In fact, if I've presented no case, that just means it isn't a strong scumread. I'm not a fan of the reaction.
Also waiting on RVS tells.
Still don't understand the case on BE?GMT+8-
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Fuck you tooIn post 345, Burning_Earth wrote:Also, fuck TSO, Lootfer and Xayzeck. You are just as important as they are.
Will have to read this and post reads in about 12+ hours, but I like the idea of kyndyscum btwGMT+8-
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ok so i did brief ISOs and stuff
TSO - Kinda null. Gut says scum, brain says town. Too sleepy to make up my mind at the moment
Lootifer - eh, boring ISO. leans scum too, but starting wagon on me says town. could be because TSO's play is picking up and so I'm becoming a more viable lynch? maybe
kyndy - I was thinking scum because of fencesitting, but after looking at her ISO i get townvibes, so it's probably newbtown
OkaPoka - Town
BE - Guttown read.
So yeah, lynch pool for me is {Loot, TSO} in that order. Kinda willing to switch TSO with BE
Any questions guys?
sorry though, I had wanted to give this game more attention tonight, but some urgent matters came up. will have to do this tomorrow i'm afraidGMT+8-
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Not protown enough for a townread, in my lynch pool by PoE.In post 380, Lootifer wrote:@Xay: Can you go into some more detail on me?
Unless, of course, you want to plug out something you've done this game that's convincing enough for a townread on you for me, or a scumcase on someone else, the vote stays.GMT+8-
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If you're confused why are you voting? Do you think BE is scum and why?In post 390, OkaPoka wrote:The problem is that nobody wants to lynch anyone or vote or do anything bold because nobody seems scummy enough. And we won't get anymore evidence so we might as well try to lynch someone.
Sigh, I sincerely confused but...
Vote: Burning EarthGMT+8-
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I played scum with Jingle once, but I died D1. I spent most of the game following Jingle and his play, because he explained everything in the scum QT. He did exactly this too, where he shot the BP, but only once. The next night he killed someone else.
I mean the current situation is:
scum accidentally/pr-hunted bp
some guy is inactive
luckylucky, paint guy as scum
yada yada you get the point
oh lets shoot someone else and frame the lurkslot
woo mislynch
winzorz even after quickwagon on buddy D1
but that second last one, I really doubt newbscum have the balls to pull off. fmpov it's either you or kyndy
and I don't think kyndy would kill Loot over you tbh
because there's no reason to keep a less experienced player over a more experienced player, no matter how WiFomy you state it to beGMT+8-
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Yep. Because Oka not dying makes me look really really bad.In post 449, T S O wrote:So, what you're saying is, I would prefer a head-v-head with you with confirmed Town as opposed to not with not.
this entire thing is irrelevant too. Oka has to be BP.In post 449, T S O wrote:If I was scum and Oka didn't have a BP, I'd have killed them, leaving kyndy/Loot/TSO/Xayz. You attack Loot, Loot and kyndy attack anyone who's not me, and I softpush everyone.
This kill makes no sense for me.GMT+8-
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I've played with TSO scum before. He has done this before.In post 454, kyndy101 wrote:Agreed, why would TSO kill Loot? They've pretty much been working together this whole game.GMT+8-
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Why are you talking like you're conftown?In post 454, kyndy101 wrote:but it seems that you guys have a pretty good debate going, so I'll wait. At least till everyone has talked.GMT+8-
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Nope. It's not me or kyndy, it's you.In post 455, T S O wrote:Give me one good reason that it would be kyndy and not you, Xayzeck, because kyndy looks pretty Town to me, and Oka is confirmed.GMT+8-
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Loot isn't a threat though?In post 456, OkaPoka wrote:But on the other hand Xayzeck could've tried to eliminate a threat.GMT+8-
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I've got no reason to kill Loot either. That just brings me mad suspicion. I would either kill the BP if I could, or kill the person most likely to push my lynch.In post 453, T S O wrote:why the fuck would I kill Lootifer then?
And that would be you.
You're scum, TSO.GMT+8-
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33701In post 462, OkaPoka wrote:Can you link me to a TSO scum game?
this is my only game with him. IIRC, BBmolla replaces in D2 and buddies TSO. He dies N3.
bbmolla replaces in at like page 8 if you're just looking for thatGMT+8-
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You are conftown, and I cannot stress enough you should NOT do this. You are in the amazing position of being able to question whoever you want about whatever you want, and nobody can call you out for it because you are town, GUARANTEED.In post 467, OkaPoka wrote:I will likely lurk for a bit to see if more information is put out.GMT+8-
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Of course. This is not alignment indicative at all though, because there are town and scum motivations for looking for a doc cc.In post 467, OkaPoka wrote:At the Same time Xay was searching for a Doctor CC which may mean he wants to take advantage of this and lynch meGMT+8-
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They would if they're easily manipulable, and provided an easy mislynch.In post 473, T S O wrote:No scum wants conftown in MyLo! You're alive because Xayzeck's slot didn't submit a kill on n2!
Also, you're right. My slot didn't submit a kill N2, heck, it didn't submit anything at all. In fact, it couldn't.GMT+8-
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BBmolla buddied you. Scum QT wasn't released, so I don't know why you killed him exactly. You did in fact kill someone who buddied you. It doesn't matter whether he scumread you or not, but since you've said you killed him because he scumread you, I'll drop that.
I have also seen conftown in MyLo, intentionally. I suggested that you possibly kept conftown because by killing Loot, it puts you in a good position to push me, which you are doing right now. You would want to push me as scum because I'm an easy mislynch target right now. I do not see how having conftown and not having conftown influences this.
I do not see scum motivation in me keeping you.
I do not see scum motivation in kyndy keeping you, unless kyndy intentionally kept the both of us to have this 1v1 while she sits back and relaxes. I'll assure you that doesn't happen though.
Be real TSO, if I were scum and didn't shoot Oka because my predecessor was inactive, I would come into D4 knowing I had suspicion on me. The most obv choice would to be getting rid of the person who would push me the hardest. Everybody is scumreading me, so it boils down to who'd be able to set up the most convincing case, who is going to be townread or trusted most D4.
And that is obviously you and Oka, and we all know I can't kill Oka. I would rather have this 1v1 with Loot or Kyndy than you. You're better at this game than I am.
And what's this shit about not having associative tells? Fuck, nobody has associative tells, your buddy died D1 by quickwagon.
I'm not paranoid? Of course not, I don't think kyndy would kill Loot, hope that 2 experienced players death tunnel each other and not consider all possibilities and lose the game for town, since if we're both town, we would figure out eventually, and kyndy will probably slip after a few pages of BOTH of us on her(kyndy is a girl right? i forget). Right now I will not consider kyndyscum, because I think you're scum. If you give me any reason to doubt my scumread on you, then I will consider kyndyscum.
And I will clarify now before you twist that into a scumtell, that does not mean I will ignore kyndy for the remainder of this game. I will merely treat her as town until I have a big reason not to.GMT+8-
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I've already explainedIn post 477, Xayzeck wrote:Be real TSO,if I were scum and didn't shoot Oka because my predecessor was inactive, I would come into D4 knowing I had suspicion on me. The most obv choice would to be getting rid of the person who would push me the hardest. Everybody is scumreading me, so it boils down to who'd be able to set up the most convincing case, who is going to be townread or trusted most D4.
And that is obviously you and Oka, and we all knowI can't kill Oka.I would rather have this 1v1 with Loot or Kyndy than you. You're better at this game than I am.GMT+8-
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Persisting? I've already said I'd drop it. Oka said youscum couldn't kill Loot because you worked together most of the game. I then replied that you have done this before, since you worked with BBmolla in that game, and you killed him. I didn't recall that he scumread you end of the day, or that you killed him for it. This doesn't change the fact that you killed someone who buddied you, just that you didn't kill them BECAUSE they buddied you.In post 481, T S O wrote:BBmolla openly said he was scumreading me at the end of d1. Why are you persisting with this lie when it's so clearly false?
Except that it's incredibly easy to mislynch me if Oka didn't die? There's like 20 pages and it's MyLo already, if my push on you yesterday was weak, I wouldn't miraculously be able to pull a scumcase out of nowhere the day after. If anything, keeping conftown makes it MUCH easier for you, because right now I'm a big and easy mislynch for scum, and whether you're scum or town, you can't deny that.In post 481, T S O wrote:I haven't seen conftown in MyLo intentionally, ever. And if I was scum, I would have killed Oka last night, framed Lootifer and set up his mislynch. Lootifer is an easier mislynch than you, from my point of view. That is optimal scum play. That Lootifer is dead shows I'm not scum, but Lootifer was scumreading you so it DOES make sense as a kill for you. I have said and shown through my meta that I hate conftown as scum - I don't get why you're trying to push this angle. I make things easy for myself as scum, not hard, and the Lootifer nightkill would be making things very hard for scum-TSO.
And for some reason I can't be doing what I'm doing now as town? Why is it that doing what I am doing only has scum motivation? Why are you refusing to consider the fact that I can do everything I am doing now, as town? If I am scum, would I kill Loot and come into MyLo unprepared with a decent scumcase on you? Do you think I have the balls, guts and skills to risk the entire game on night kill WiFom? I know for a fact that none of these players will fall for that. As town however, going back and forth about night kill is the only decent thing I have to question you with, to interact and see how you respond so I can solidify a better read on you. Is that not town motivation? I'm not even voting you yet for crying out loud.In post 481, T S O wrote:Or, you know that we're all on to you, so you decide that you might as well be unpredictable with your nightkill to try to frame me ...which is exactly what you're doing right now.
Everything in this quote is pointless, except for the 1v1 with Loot/Kyndy. And trying to stir up paranoia in a situation where I am going to be the most scumread person, with conftown and an experienced player, when I've only had a few scumgames? Even you know deep down that I wouldn't do that.In post 481, T S O wrote:Compliments aside, you saying you'd rather have a 1v1 with Loot/Kyndy than me is baseless WIFOM. Who knows, maybe you thought you could make everyone paranoid of me more easily than you could make them paranoid of Lootifer. I don't need to understand your reasoning; all I know is that I'm alive and I'm Town.
What have I done that is so scummy, so filled with scum motivation, so unbelievably obvscum that you have YET to point out. Is it the "lies" that you've pointed out? Sure, it makes complete sense to lie about a game that both you and I were in, provide the link for everyone in the game to view it, and expect you not to go through the game do dig out why you actually killed him to defend yourself. The smartest move I've ever made as scum, because that would secure your mislynch.In post 481, T S O wrote:Like that's going to happen - I could immediately see today you were gearing up to mislynch me. You're scum. The way you've acted today proves it beyond a doubt, not to mention the damning evidence which was the no kill n2.
I'm obvscum? I don't see it. You haven't voted me, Oka hasn't voted me, kyndy hasn't voted me. If I'm obvscum like you said, I should be dead by now.
But nope.
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Anyways, on kyndy. She doesn't have the best content, more townvibes than scumvibes, comfortable with just saying whatever, especially 370. Not exactly the epitome of towniness, but tbh I haven't been interacting with her much or been in this game long enough to get a good read on her though.
So kyndy, a couple of things for you:
Read on TSO?
Read on me?
Why do you think BE wanted you lynched?
Do you have any questions you want to ask TSO to figure out if he's is scum?
Do you have any questions you want to ask me to figure out if I'm scum?GMT+8-
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Didn't I call you scum at one point as well though? Did I defend you prior to recently?
Also, BE voted you because you voted him. BE is town, tho thought to be scum.
So I did the same, and I'm thought to be scum. Why can't I be town?
Aren't you at least going to interact with TSO to try and figure out what to ask?GMT+8-
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