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Post Post #272 (isolation #0) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:47 am

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sup TSO
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Post Post #273 (isolation #1) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:49 am

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hey TSO what do your RVS tells say about D1?

I think you're scum btw
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Post Post #274 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:54 am

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In post 268, OkaPoka wrote:I think none of us should try to lynch, or vote until Nzmobb comes back or gets a replacement. Then we can question him all we want.
TSO what's your case on Nzmobb?
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Post Post #276 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:56 am

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In post 275, neil1113 wrote:Not Voting - 3 (
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I do not know what you are talking about...
:shifty: :good:
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Post Post #285 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:32 pm

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In post 277, OkaPoka wrote:Soooo, are you scum Xayzeck?
Nope
In post 278, T S O wrote:omg Xayzeck, just because I beat you as scum that one time doesn't mean that I'm scum here. You know this.

Also hi!
That doesn't mean you can't be though :b

So you had a case on my slot, yes?
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Post Post #289 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:39 pm

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In post 277, OkaPoka wrote:Soooo, are you scum Xayzeck?
In post 278, T S O wrote:omg Xayzeck, just because I beat you as scum that one time doesn't mean that I'm scum here. You know this.

Also hi!
I'm pretty happy with TSO scum
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Post Post #290 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:39 pm

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Q+ sucks i am not joking

and i meant TSO being scum if that previous post wasn't clear
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Post Post #296 (isolation #7) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:51 pm

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Hmmmmm

Was there a doc CC anytime yet?
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Post Post #300 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:01 pm

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Nope, just wondering if anyone cced you
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Post Post #302 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:14 pm

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Me?
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Post Post #307 (isolation #10) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:17 am

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In post 306, T S O wrote:He doesn't have any reasoning or any case, so it's horseshit.
I'm not an idiot. Do explain why i would replace in and yell an unsupported scumread when my slot is under suspicion by a decent amount of the playerlist and i'm the only scum left in the game with nobody to defend me

tell me the scum motivation in that
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Post Post #308 (isolation #11) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:20 am

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In post 273, Xayzeck wrote:hey TSO what do your RVS tells say about D1?
You were absent most of D1 and scum got lynched. I've seen you do RVS tells, so I'm asking you this and you have not replied.
In post 274, Xayzeck wrote:TSO what's your case on Nzmobb?
You have not replied to this also.

I get that a weak unsupported scumread isn't exactly the towniest thing in the world, but I'm trying to figure you out. If you are town, I don't know why you aren't answering me. If you're scum though, that'd make a little more sense.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:54 am

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I'm pretty sure you can put up a good towngame, TSO. Just because I'm scumreading you doesn't mean you don't need to answer my questions and try to get me to townread you.

In fact, if I've presented no case, that just means it isn't a strong scumread. I'm not a fan of the reaction.

Also waiting on RVS tells.

Still don't understand the case on BE?
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Post Post #369 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:24 pm

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In post 345, Burning_Earth wrote:Also, fuck TSO, Lootfer and Xayzeck. You are just as important as they are.
Fuck you too

Will have to read this and post reads in about 12+ hours, but I like the idea of kyndyscum btw
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Post Post #377 (isolation #14) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:53 am

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ok so i did brief ISOs and stuff

TSO - Kinda null. Gut says scum, brain says town. Too sleepy to make up my mind at the moment
Lootifer - eh, boring ISO. leans scum too, but starting wagon on me says town. could be because TSO's play is picking up and so I'm becoming a more viable lynch? maybe
kyndy - I was thinking scum because of fencesitting, but after looking at her ISO i get townvibes, so it's probably newbtown
OkaPoka - Town
BE - Guttown read.

So yeah, lynch pool for me is {Loot, TSO} in that order. Kinda willing to switch TSO with BE

Any questions guys?

sorry though, I had wanted to give this game more attention tonight, but some urgent matters came up. will have to do this tomorrow i'm afraid
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Post Post #379 (isolation #15) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:41 pm

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Based on my reads, scum is either TSO or Loot

and I'm liking TSO more and more so

VOTE: Loot
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Post Post #383 (isolation #16) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:14 am

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In post 380, Lootifer wrote:@Xay: Can you go into some more detail on me?
Not protown enough for a townread, in my lynch pool by PoE.

Unless, of course, you want to plug out something you've done this game that's convincing enough for a townread on you for me, or a scumcase on someone else, the vote stays.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #17) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:10 am

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I would settle on a burning lynch

But I can't see why you think she's scum?
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Post Post #400 (isolation #18) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:24 pm

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Right decision being who and why?
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Post Post #401 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:26 pm

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In post 390, OkaPoka wrote:The problem is that nobody wants to lynch anyone or vote or do anything bold because nobody seems scummy enough. And we won't get anymore evidence so we might as well try to lynch someone.

Sigh, I sincerely confused but...
Vote: Burning Earth
If you're confused why are you voting? Do you think BE is scum and why?
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Post Post #404 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:10 am

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why am i contentious?
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Post Post #406 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:03 am

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ah

is that the only thing that makes my slot scum to you, btw?
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Post Post #408 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:49 am

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No I don't? I've only had a couple of scumgames, and tbh only 1 of them I'm proud of my play.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:03 am

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Yep
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Post Post #411 (isolation #24) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:07 am

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Well I guess I see where you're coming from when you say I am capable of appearing town as scum

But only Thor townread me in that game. While I'm pretty happy with that, being scumread by the rest of the playerlist isn't exactly good scumplay
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Post Post #412 (isolation #25) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:16 am

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Also, say you had to vote right now, who would you vote and why?
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Post Post #415 (isolation #26) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:31 am

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So you plan to lynch BE because he is scum, because he could cause problems, or both?

Is your scumread on him only from RVS tells?
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Post Post #422 (isolation #27) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:26 pm

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Final readlist before flip please
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Post Post #425 (isolation #28) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:34 pm

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Except you have multiple people down for scum. It's mylo tomorrow and we can't be like "let's lynch x today and y tomorrow"
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Post Post #436 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:28 pm

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Hey tso

I think you're scum again

And I expect the rest of you to scumread me for oka not dying

Which is also why I scumread oka. Could very well be jailkept last night, and faking bp.

Will read and think about it when I reach home
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Post Post #438 (isolation #30) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:06 am

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Lame I expect everyone to come after me

I just expect youscum the most likely to do so

Call my case weak as fuck, I'm still town
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Post Post #440 (isolation #31) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:36 am

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And not considering oka?
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Post Post #441 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:37 am

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Give me a good reason why I would kill Loot over you
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Post Post #442 (isolation #33) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:41 am

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In post 433, T S O wrote:FUCK

you're not trolling, are you?
Pointless btw
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Post Post #443 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:47 am

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Actually ignore my thing about oka, forgot we had tracker
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Post Post #444 (isolation #35) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:53 am

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I would have killed you as scum. I'd rather not have you in mylo.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:09 pm

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hello?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #37) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:14 am

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How the hell do i know

Probably because all of D3 it's been "Xay is scum if Oka doesn't die" and that scum can abuse that?
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Post Post #448 (isolation #38) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:19 am

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I played scum with Jingle once, but I died D1. I spent most of the game following Jingle and his play, because he explained everything in the scum QT. He did exactly this too, where he shot the BP, but only once. The next night he killed someone else.

I mean the current situation is:
scum accidentally/pr-hunted bp
some guy is inactive
luckylucky, paint guy as scum
yada yada you get the point
oh lets shoot someone else and frame the lurkslot
woo mislynch
winzorz even after quickwagon on buddy D1

but that second last one, I really doubt newbscum have the balls to pull off. fmpov it's either you or kyndy

and I don't think kyndy would kill Loot over you tbh

because there's no reason to keep a less experienced player over a more experienced player, no matter how WiFomy you state it to be
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Post Post #450 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:40 am

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In post 449, T S O wrote:So, what you're saying is, I would prefer a head-v-head with you with confirmed Town as opposed to not with not.
Yep. Because Oka not dying makes me look really really bad.
In post 449, T S O wrote:If I was scum and Oka didn't have a BP, I'd have killed them, leaving kyndy/Loot/TSO/Xayz. You attack Loot, Loot and kyndy attack anyone who's not me, and I softpush everyone.

This kill makes no sense for me.
this entire thing is irrelevant too. Oka has to be BP.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:41 am

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Ok I think what you mean is that Oka still has his BP
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Post Post #452 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:42 am

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You seem to be confident that none of us will scumread you in that second part. Why?
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Post Post #458 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:43 pm

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In post 454, kyndy101 wrote:Agreed, why would TSO kill Loot? They've pretty much been working together this whole game.
I've played with TSO scum before. He has done this before.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:44 pm

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In post 454, kyndy101 wrote:but it seems that you guys have a pretty good debate going, so I'll wait. At least till everyone has talked.
Why are you talking like you're conftown?
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Post Post #460 (isolation #44) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:45 pm

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In post 455, T S O wrote:Give me one good reason that it would be kyndy and not you, Xayzeck, because kyndy looks pretty Town to me, and Oka is confirmed.
Nope. It's not me or kyndy, it's you.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:46 pm

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In post 456, OkaPoka wrote:But on the other hand Xayzeck could've tried to eliminate a threat.
Loot isn't a threat though?
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Post Post #463 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:47 pm

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In post 453, T S O wrote:why the fuck would I kill Lootifer then?
I've got no reason to kill Loot either. That just brings me mad suspicion. I would either kill the BP if I could, or kill the person most likely to push my lynch.

And that would be you.

You're scum, TSO.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #47) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:49 pm

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In post 462, OkaPoka wrote:Can you link me to a TSO scum game?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33701

this is my only game with him. IIRC, BBmolla replaces in D2 and buddies TSO. He dies N3.

bbmolla replaces in at like page 8 if you're just looking for that
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Post Post #466 (isolation #48) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:53 pm

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Go ahead
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Post Post #468 (isolation #49) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:45 pm

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In post 467, OkaPoka wrote:I will likely lurk for a bit to see if more information is put out.
You are conftown, and I cannot stress enough you should NOT do this. You are in the amazing position of being able to question whoever you want about whatever you want, and nobody can call you out for it because you are town, GUARANTEED.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:46 pm

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In post 467, OkaPoka wrote:At the Same time Xay was searching for a Doctor CC which may mean he wants to take advantage of this and lynch me
Of course. This is not alignment indicative at all though, because there are town and scum motivations for looking for a doc cc.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #51) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:48 pm

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I don't think he can give you a reason he isn't scum if you haven't told him WHY you think he's scum, because I do not see that in your post
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Post Post #474 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:59 am

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In post 473, T S O wrote:No scum wants conftown in MyLo! You're alive because Xayzeck's slot didn't submit a kill on n2!
They would if they're easily manipulable, and provided an easy mislynch.

Also, you're right. My slot didn't submit a kill N2, heck, it didn't submit anything at all. In fact, it couldn't.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:32 am

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BBmolla buddied you. Scum QT wasn't released, so I don't know why you killed him exactly. You did in fact kill someone who buddied you. It doesn't matter whether he scumread you or not, but since you've said you killed him because he scumread you, I'll drop that.

I have also seen conftown in MyLo, intentionally. I suggested that you possibly kept conftown because by killing Loot, it puts you in a good position to push me, which you are doing right now. You would want to push me as scum because I'm an easy mislynch target right now. I do not see how having conftown and not having conftown influences this.

I do not see scum motivation in me keeping you.

I do not see scum motivation in kyndy keeping you, unless kyndy intentionally kept the both of us to have this 1v1 while she sits back and relaxes. I'll assure you that doesn't happen though.

Be real TSO, if I were scum and didn't shoot Oka because my predecessor was inactive, I would come into D4 knowing I had suspicion on me. The most obv choice would to be getting rid of the person who would push me the hardest. Everybody is scumreading me, so it boils down to who'd be able to set up the most convincing case, who is going to be townread or trusted most D4.

And that is obviously you and Oka, and we all know I can't kill Oka. I would rather have this 1v1 with Loot or Kyndy than you. You're better at this game than I am.

And what's this shit about not having associative tells? Fuck, nobody has associative tells, your buddy died D1 by quickwagon.

I'm not paranoid? Of course not, I don't think kyndy would kill Loot, hope that 2 experienced players death tunnel each other and not consider all possibilities and lose the game for town, since if we're both town, we would figure out eventually, and kyndy will probably slip after a few pages of BOTH of us on her(kyndy is a girl right? i forget). Right now I will not consider kyndyscum, because I think you're scum. If you give me any reason to doubt my scumread on you, then I will consider kyndyscum.

And I will clarify now before you twist that into a scumtell, that does not mean I will ignore kyndy for the remainder of this game. I will merely treat her as town until I have a big reason not to.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #54) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:16 am

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In post 477, Xayzeck wrote:Be real TSO,
if I were scum and didn't shoot Oka because my predecessor was inactive
, I would come into D4 knowing I had suspicion on me. The most obv choice would to be getting rid of the person who would push me the hardest. Everybody is scumreading me, so it boils down to who'd be able to set up the most convincing case, who is going to be townread or trusted most D4.

And that is obviously you and Oka, and we all know
I can't kill Oka.
I would rather have this 1v1 with Loot or Kyndy than you. You're better at this game than I am.
I've already explained
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Post Post #480 (isolation #55) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:18 am

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My defense? I'd have a buttload of an easier time framing Loot or Kyndy as scum rather than TSO.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #56) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:29 am

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In post 481, T S O wrote:BBmolla openly said he was scumreading me at the end of d1. Why are you persisting with this lie when it's so clearly false?
Persisting? I've already said I'd drop it. Oka said youscum couldn't kill Loot because you worked together most of the game. I then replied that you have done this before, since you worked with BBmolla in that game, and you killed him. I didn't recall that he scumread you end of the day, or that you killed him for it. This doesn't change the fact that you killed someone who buddied you, just that you didn't kill them BECAUSE they buddied you.
In post 481, T S O wrote:I haven't seen conftown in MyLo intentionally, ever. And if I was scum, I would have killed Oka last night, framed Lootifer and set up his mislynch. Lootifer is an easier mislynch than you, from my point of view. That is optimal scum play. That Lootifer is dead shows I'm not scum, but Lootifer was scumreading you so it DOES make sense as a kill for you. I have said and shown through my meta that I hate conftown as scum - I don't get why you're trying to push this angle. I make things easy for myself as scum, not hard, and the Lootifer nightkill would be making things very hard for scum-TSO.
Except that it's incredibly easy to mislynch me if Oka didn't die? There's like 20 pages and it's MyLo already, if my push on you yesterday was weak, I wouldn't miraculously be able to pull a scumcase out of nowhere the day after. If anything, keeping conftown makes it MUCH easier for you, because right now I'm a big and easy mislynch for scum, and whether you're scum or town, you can't deny that.
In post 481, T S O wrote:Or, you know that we're all on to you, so you decide that you might as well be unpredictable with your nightkill to try to frame me ...which is exactly what you're doing right now.
And for some reason I can't be doing what I'm doing now as town? Why is it that doing what I am doing only has scum motivation? Why are you refusing to consider the fact that I can do everything I am doing now, as town? If I am scum, would I kill Loot and come into MyLo unprepared with a decent scumcase on you? Do you think I have the balls, guts and skills to risk the entire game on night kill WiFom? I know for a fact that none of these players will fall for that. As town however, going back and forth about night kill is the only decent thing I have to question you with, to interact and see how you respond so I can solidify a better read on you. Is that not town motivation? I'm not even voting you yet for crying out loud.
In post 481, T S O wrote:Compliments aside, you saying you'd rather have a 1v1 with Loot/Kyndy than me is baseless WIFOM. Who knows, maybe you thought you could make everyone paranoid of me more easily than you could make them paranoid of Lootifer. I don't need to understand your reasoning; all I know is that I'm alive and I'm Town.
Everything in this quote is pointless, except for the 1v1 with Loot/Kyndy. And trying to stir up paranoia in a situation where I am going to be the most scumread person, with conftown and an experienced player, when I've only had a few scumgames? Even you know deep down that I wouldn't do that.
In post 481, T S O wrote:Like that's going to happen - I could immediately see today you were gearing up to mislynch me. You're scum. The way you've acted today proves it beyond a doubt, not to mention the damning evidence which was the no kill n2.
What have I done that is so scummy, so filled with scum motivation, so unbelievably obvscum that you have YET to point out. Is it the "lies" that you've pointed out? Sure, it makes complete sense to lie about a game that both you and I were in, provide the link for everyone in the game to view it, and expect you not to go through the game do dig out why you actually killed him to defend yourself. The smartest move I've ever made as scum, because that would secure your mislynch.

I'm obvscum? I don't see it. You haven't voted me, Oka hasn't voted me, kyndy hasn't voted me. If I'm obvscum like you said, I should be dead by now.

But nope.

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Anyways, on kyndy. She doesn't have the best content, more townvibes than scumvibes, comfortable with just saying whatever, especially . Not exactly the epitome of towniness, but tbh I haven't been interacting with her much or been in this game long enough to get a good read on her though.

So kyndy, a couple of things for you:
Read on TSO?
Read on me?
Why do you think BE wanted you lynched?
Do you have any questions you want to ask TSO to figure out if he's is scum?
Do you have any questions you want to ask me to figure out if I'm scum?
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Post Post #483 (isolation #57) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:30 am

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I can't believe I'm actually walling this thread

Because I hate walls myself
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Post Post #485 (isolation #58) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:41 pm

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Didn't I call you scum at one point as well though? Did I defend you prior to recently?

Also, BE voted you because you voted him. BE is town, tho thought to be scum.
So I did the same, and I'm thought to be scum. Why can't I be town?

Aren't you at least going to interact with TSO to try and figure out what to ask?
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Post Post #486 (isolation #59) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:51 am

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Oka, can you answer the same questions I asked kyndy please?
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Post Post #489 (isolation #60) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:19 pm

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In post 487, T S O wrote:idk. I really can't make myself respond to walls today; I'm tired. basically I think you're scum because

a) no kill n2
b) it's kyndy or you and I don't lean kyndy.
And if a) doesn't exist?
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Post Post #490 (isolation #61) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:20 pm

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kyndy's posts just feel very newbtown. Not adding much to the game and only sheeping are common newbtraits, not something I would call scummy
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Post Post #492 (isolation #62) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:45 pm

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In post 491, OkaPoka wrote:the only reason I think that you are scum if the theory of no nightkill is true. If I died then the theory would dissolve most likely.
And this seems to be the only reason anyone has ever scumread

Okay that's not actually true, but it sure as hell feels like it
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Post Post #493 (isolation #63) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:19 am

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This game

Why don't people talk in it

TSO get back in here
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Post Post #495 (isolation #64) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:21 am

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So does that mean that you are scumreading him right now?
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Post Post #497 (isolation #65) » Thu May 01, 2014 1:57 pm

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Great comeback post.

This game is moving so slow holy shit.

We've got a little over a week, and at this rate I don't even think we'll have a lynch by then.
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Post Post #499 (isolation #66) » Thu May 01, 2014 9:04 pm

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Not if you keep giving me 1 lines posts after I gave you stuff to talk about.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #67) » Fri May 02, 2014 10:25 pm

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Kyndy, Oka, I'd appreciate if both of ya could ask TSO and I questions too, especially you kyndy. Please do realise that while I think TSO is scum, you are still something we have to consider, and right now it feels like you're just coasting and waiting for TSO to slip up or something.

If you're town, please make some effort to further sort and solidify your reads.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #68) » Fri May 02, 2014 10:37 pm

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Screw it, we need to get things moving.

VOTE: TSO
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Post Post #507 (isolation #69) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:42 pm

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TSO

Not replying will not suddenly make you town

Get back here

Again
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Post Post #509 (isolation #70) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:04 pm

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Town

Duh
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Post Post #512 (isolation #71) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:08 pm

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I've ISO-ed her, I think she's town.

Of course, I ISO-ed her today(game day) and I think she's town, but that could be a confbias read because I think TSO is scum.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #72) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:09 pm

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In post 511, OkaPoka wrote:Xay, if by any chance you were scum, what would you do?

And If I didn't have bp by any chance.
Kill TSO, continue pushing Lootscum
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Post Post #514 (isolation #73) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:10 pm

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In post 510, OkaPoka wrote:So only viabilities out of all of you is Xay and TSO?

Fine. if you honestly believe so.
Do you think otherwise? If you've got great reasons to think kyndy is scum, I welcome you to share them.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #74) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:18 pm

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I don't understand your question, can you rephrase?
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Post Post #518 (isolation #75) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:51 pm

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TSO scumreads my slot the hardest before I replaced in. Given BP claim and lost tracker, with no doc CC, I'm ensured a kill on anyone, of course, with the assumption that my predecessor was afk and so your BP is there. TSO plays better than Loot, would have an easier time 1v1-ing with Loot.

Of course, you could argue that I intentionally killed Loot over TSO so that I could say "it isn't me because i would've killed TSO", but that is, whether you like it or not, more troublesome than just killing TSO. I would have a hell of an easier time convincing you and kyndy that Loot were scum.

How was Loot a threat to me?

How would it relieve suspicion at all?
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Post Post #521 (isolation #76) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:15 am

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Wow, great job picking up where we left off. I walled for you, and you come back with a 1 line and a vote?

Why are you still so iffy on kyndy when I'm obvscum for you? I don't get it. If I'm obvscum, then kyndy should be town. Period. You're just keeping a kyndy lynch open in case Oka does a 180 on me, and you can be like "Yeah, I'd actually be down for kyndy too. I'm not exactly sure she's town."

Your reads keep changing, first you say you think I'm scum, then you think I'm pretty obvscum? Like, how strong is your scumread on me? Likewise for kyndy, you think she's town, but you're not quite sure? It's D4, and you've been here since this game started. Why are you still so unsure of everything, yet sure about some of them at the same time? I'm confused.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #77) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:22 am

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Like, I left a big chunk of text that you can use to sort me out further.

Nope.

How about to twist to make me look scummy?

Nope.

How about to read and realise that I'm town and maybe convince me it could be kyndyscum?

Nope.

How about to completely ignore because fuck if I know?

Yep.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #78) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:27 am

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In post 503, kyndy101 wrote:I agree, T S O. Please elabricate your thoughts on the previous posts.
Like look at that right there. Even kyndy wants something from you.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #79) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:35 am

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In post 519, T S O wrote:Despite his denials, his actions match up perfectly with what he'd do as scum and it's either him or kyndy.
And for some reason you can't see me doing this as town? Oh wait, you can't because you're scum and you insist on getting me lynched, why? Because Oka didn't die. Because my predecessor was afk during the night.

And I've been kinda been brushing the above off, because I'm VT, so anything about me sending in a night action is complete nonsense. I can't send in anything.

My predecessors last post, , was(in my timezone), April 5th, 5:35 pm.

The flip for that same day, , was April 7th, 12:18 pm.

He was 5 hours away from a prod.

Night actions had a deadline of 2 days.

He could have been prodded, given time to respond, fail to respond, and get replaced.

If he had to send in a night action, why didn't he get replaced? That seems kinda unfair for whatever alignment he was in, no?

Well, no point in speculating about this, is there?

@mod: If you can answer this, if a player with a night action is eligible for a prod during the night phase, would he be prodded? And if he fails to respond, would he be replaced?


Of course, if you cannot answer this, it is completely understandable.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #80) » Sun May 04, 2014 11:27 am

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You do realise that everything you just said about the Loot kill, how it doesn't make sense, how it causes confusion, isn't specific to scumme, right? That TSO as scum could do exactly this?

I'm not sure where you're coming with this.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #81) » Sun May 04, 2014 11:29 am

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Oh wait you do realise that.

And somehow I'm voted? I'm confused my your actions, very much.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #82) » Sun May 04, 2014 11:30 am

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Like really kyndy, your entire posts just talks about random shit, nothing alignment indicative of me or TSO.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #83) » Sun May 04, 2014 11:31 am

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In post 525, T S O wrote:But I don't need to convince you that kyndy's scum, because I don't think he is?

Let me be more concrete about my reads, then.

Kyndy is town.
You're scum.

I'm not "waiting for Oka to do a 180 on Kyndy", I've specifically TOLD Oka I don't want a kyndy lynch.

If you don't want me voting you, then you should go make a case on kyndy. Otherwise, you have no reason to complain.
You could at least respond to my wall of text that I've been waiting for a response for a few days now.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #84) » Sun May 04, 2014 3:13 pm

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Oka, if you intend to vote kyndy, you can just vote you know
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Post Post #538 (isolation #85) » Mon May 05, 2014 2:22 am

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kyndy can you elaborate to the best of your ability why you think I'm scum, and why you cannot see me doing what I'm doing as town?
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Post Post #539 (isolation #86) » Mon May 05, 2014 2:33 am

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By the way, did a quick VCA (Vote Count Analysis)

TSO has not been on any of the wagons, except for BEs, where he hammers, and when he votes Loot in the very beginning of the game.

kyndy on the other hand, has been on every wagon, including Not_Mafia's.

I see that as TSO being careful, which he could be as scum and town.

kyndy is scummy for being on every wagon, except Not_Mafia's wagon. I don't think she would risk losing her buddy so early on.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #87) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:23 pm

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Still waiting on that response, kyndy.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #88) » Wed May 07, 2014 4:08 am

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And you can see me as scum coming in with no buddy at all to back me up, walk up to the most experienced player in this game, and call him scum for no apparent reason?

Okayyyyyyyyyy
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Post Post #545 (isolation #89) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:20 am

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I've interacted with him the whole damn day, and what's his case on me? Slot was afk at night, I lied about some stuff, and for some reason I'm scum and none of you can see that I've been coming back to this game day after day poking for interactions, I'm open to the idea of kyndyscum, I'm willing to work with kyndy and you to help solidify the idea of TSOscum, and what has he done?

I've read this game, I've played it, and honestly I think he's done nothing to help push the game forward other than scumreading me despite the fact I've been protown this whole game.

And why? Because he's scum and I'm the easiest target. I have been since the day started, AND THIS IS CLEAR TO EVERY ONE. So what's the best thing scum can do? Lynch me. And not care about kyndy. That's exactly what he did, no effort to reevaluate, nothing but a tunnel on me. I've tunneled him too, and he was the one who got me to look at kyndy. He hasn't done that shit himself. I have bothered to look at kyndy.

TSO is still scum over kyndy at this point, but if she's going to remain stubborn and wagon with scum, then fuck, gg scum.

I'll be back when kyndy fucking decides to vote TSO.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #90) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:47 am

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In post 543, T S O wrote:I'm here, but I really don't have anything to say. Oka, there's no damn support for kyndy, so there's no reason to vote him.
Complete bull.

If there were no support, I would shutdown Oka's idea of kyndyscum when it came up. That didn't happen
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Post Post #552 (isolation #91) » Thu May 08, 2014 7:40 pm

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If kyndy could like come back and vote TSO

that'd be fucking brilliant
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Post Post #554 (isolation #92) » Thu May 08, 2014 7:57 pm

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In post 553, T S O wrote:Xazyeck is scum, OkaPoka, and if we No Lynch he'll just kill you tonight. Don't get paranoid; it IS Xayzeck.
still bullshit
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Post Post #557 (isolation #93) » Fri May 09, 2014 12:38 pm

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What the fuck?

Are you convinced or not?

Because of we end up no lynching, we're heading into LyLo with 0 clears probably.

If it isn't TSO you're convinced it's me too? The game ends with this lynch. Are you aware of that?
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Post Post #564 (isolation #94) » Fri May 09, 2014 4:25 pm

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Lesson ends in an hour, will be here for deadline hopefully
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Post Post #565 (isolation #95) » Fri May 09, 2014 4:29 pm

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Can you check if kyndy townreads loot?
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Post Post #593 (isolation #96) » Fri May 09, 2014 6:23 pm

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FUCK YEAH WE DID IT OKA HOLY SHIT
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Post Post #594 (isolation #97) » Fri May 09, 2014 6:24 pm

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Yea he killed loot to frame me

Kyndy was prolly easier to manipulate

Thanks for listening, sorry if my case wasn't uber convinced

Ggall, I had lots of fun this game
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Post Post #595 (isolation #98) » Fri May 09, 2014 6:44 pm

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WOOOOOO PARTAYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Post Post #596 (isolation #99) » Fri May 09, 2014 6:56 pm

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TSO prolly nokilled because you'd be notified if you lost bp

And nokilling suggests you got shot under the assumption you were not notified if you were shot

Basically if he shot you you may/may not be notified, eliminating the main point of the scumcase on me
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Post Post #597 (isolation #100) » Fri May 09, 2014 7:42 pm

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anyway my memory of the game is pretty limited to day 4

i think oka played great, keep playing like this you'll do fine. get an avatar though

kyndy was good too, but i'd recommend maybe not so much appeal to emotion, and take firmer stances. don't worry if you're wrong, as long as you find scum all will be well

i look forward to any advice you guys have for me. while I'm happy we got scum in the end, I can't help but feel I could have played better to convince you guys it was TSO, though I myself was never 100% sure.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #101) » Fri May 09, 2014 11:09 pm

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In post 598, T S O wrote:My scum play here was atrocious and I deserved to lose. Well done, Town. More specifically, well done Xayzeck.
well seeing as I was at L-1 for quite a while, and you only got wagoned at the very end, I don't think you did too bad
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Post Post #607 (isolation #102) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:57 pm

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In post 606, OkaPoka wrote:I would like to know what the mod thought of this game, and what he would have done if he were playing.
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Post Post #610 (isolation #103) » Wed May 14, 2014 4:11 am

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so no mod comments?

okay
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Post Post #611 (isolation #104) » Wed May 14, 2014 4:12 am

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btw can someone link scum qt? i'm curious
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Post Post #613 (isolation #105) » Wed May 14, 2014 11:45 am

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xD

I thought TSO would have shared his thoughts more or something
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Post Post #619 (isolation #106) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:31 pm

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meh you hammered right in the end
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Post Post #621 (isolation #107) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:35 am

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What would you have done if we no lynched at the end there?
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Post Post #624 (isolation #108) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:54 pm

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Oka never lost his BP though

So shooting him wouldn't realy seal it for you yet, unless you did"he lurked the night so he didn't shoot Oka"
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