Sure thing, what input would you like from me?In post 224, bruin228 wrote:Lol at "ass wagon"
I still need to hear from jackal and Rach. Maybe ham! too. Then we can move on.
Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping the pressure on Ass until he provides something.
What do you think of page 9 (after your last comment)? There were a few exchanges between Ass, goofy, dragon, and Onion. Wolfy wrote some stuff as well. Worth looking at?In post 230, hamfactorial wrote:Sure thing, what input would you like from me?In post 224, bruin228 wrote:Lol at "ass wagon"
I still need to hear from jackal and Rach. Maybe ham! too. Then we can move on.
Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping the pressure on Ass until he provides something.
I thoroughly enjoyed the phrase "ass wagon", which gave me a laugh. I didn't like Onion's 218 where he asserts that dragon and I are considered the scummier players in the game, despite voting for AssMuffin. Also, who is considering me and dragon the scummier players? Please cite your references and show your work. An assertion does not a fact make.In post 231, bruin228 wrote:What do you think of page 9 (after your last comment)? There were a few exchanges between Ass, goofy, dragon, and Onion. Wolfy wrote some stuff as well. Worth looking at?In post 230, hamfactorial wrote:Sure thing, what input would you like from me?In post 224, bruin228 wrote:Lol at "ass wagon"
I still need to hear from jackal and Rach. Maybe ham! too. Then we can move on.
Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping the pressure on Ass until he provides something.
he's so smart!
This.In post 232, hamfactorial wrote:Day 1 has featured enough active/passive lurking that this nonsense could all just be town-on-town action while the scum team idles off camera.
eh what?In post 158, A Muffin wrote:so i was just out at the bar with some friends and i got a great though. flashmarsh is scum.
VOTE: flashmarsh
Voting for a non player?
the reason that he is scum is because he has been actively looking for scum, therefore showing that he himself is scum. due to this fact, he is attempting to find himself through jesus, and that makes el trabajo en mi coche mucho gusto. cuatro mafios hay, porque mucho refrijerador.
Odd reasoning but no vote on a REAL player in the gameIn post 159, A Muffin wrote:id also like to add that i think hamfactorial is scum because ham is actually the meat of the beast and he sems to be really evil
In post 235, RachMarie wrote:Voting for a non player?In post 158, A Muffin wrote:so i was just out at the bar with some friends and i got a great though. flashmarsh is scum.
VOTE: flashmarsh
the reason that he is scum is because he has been actively looking for scum, therefore showing that he himself is scum. due to this fact, he is attempting to find himself through jesus, and that makes el trabajo en mi coche mucho gusto. cuatro mafios hay, porque mucho refrijerador.
eh what?
Odd reasoning but no vote on a REAL player in the gameIn post 159, A Muffin wrote:id also like to add that i think hamfactorial is scum because ham is actually the meat of the beast and he sems to be really evil
hence I said vote is now serious.
You know how I said in that post that maybe I'd put too much stock in Goofy's reads (implicitly referring to posts 125 and 127)? Well I'm glad you called me out on that post because, upon double-checking everything from the top of page 6 to my post, it appears I have indeed put too much stock in them, as apart from them, the only legitimate criticism I could find of either you or dragon (not including any from me or anything more from Goofy) was this:In post 232, hamfactorial wrote:I didn't like Onion's 218 where he asserts that dragon and I are considered the scummier players in the game, despite voting for AssMuffin. Also, who is considering me and dragon the scummier players? Please cite your references and show your work. An assertion does not a fact make.
and this with a pinch of salt:In post 168, bruin228 wrote:This is still rubbing me the wrong way. I was clearly attempting to generate discussion, I was waiting for my questions to be answered. Why didn't YOU generate any discussion? You were clearly around to post that snarky response. Do you not want any discussion? Do you want us to do all the scum hunting for you?In post 145, dragonspawn wrote:you know, if you wanted to generate more discussion you could have done something to generate discussion.
Needless to say, I am going to have to re-evaluate any reads on the two of you.In post 184, A Muffin wrote:Mostly just a feeling, but just from the way that he is acting he gives me a very town vibe. As for dragon, I still feel like he's posting filler, and not actually being productive, while attempting to look productive.
Like dragon, you have misinterpreted the reasoning for people suspecting he is scum. If anything, what you've said here applies more to AssMuffin than to dragon. I'm pretty sure dragon has consistently had the highest number of posts in this thread, so there was never any suspicion that he was lurking. The criticism against him was that he was sheeping the majority of the time and that his posts added no value.In post 232, hamfactorial wrote:I'm null on dragon, and I've felt like him in some games. His 199 echos my feelings from earlier games I've played, especially the annoyance at being accused of scum when I don't post and then being accused of scummy behavior by over-posting in response to being called out for lurking.
Look, hammy, in post 217 I detail how AssMuffin's early play is essentially him trying to defend his supposed right to play in an anti-town way. Posts 188 and maybe 211 are the only actual contributions he has made. Any suggestion that AssMuffin might not actually be scum is gonna have to take this into account if I am to even consider believing it.In post 232, hamfactorial wrote:I like that AssMuffin is around and posting. Not convinced of him being scum, but happy to observe how he behaves and change my opinion later.
So what exactly do you consider the scum mindset?In post 242, hamfactorial wrote:I need to see them display a scum mindset. I haven't seen it from AssMuffin, though his early play is anti-town. Anti-town isn't always scum, so I'm reserving judgment.
Are you looking for extra support for his lynch?
I'm seeing this as asking so you won't give yourself away later. Ham, obviously don't answer this.
I think this is where you and I differ. Anyone who is townie should be trying to help the town as much as possible. Some anti-town behaviour from those who don't know better is expected in the beginning, but then they should find out what it takes to be more townie and then put what they find out into practice. Any deviation from this, such as continuous anti-town behaviour, has no townie justification. Thus, anyone who is continuously anti-town is scum.In post 242, hamfactorial wrote:I need to see them display a scum mindset. I haven't seen it from AssMuffin, though his early play is anti-town. Anti-town isn't always scum, so I'm reserving judgment.
Earlier on we got him up to L-1 and someone declared intent to hammer, so I don't think there's a problem with not enough people supporting his lynch. I actually find myself wishing we could switch over to other players, in particular RachMarie and Jackal/Rubicon who have gotten by so far on doing virtually nothing. I can't come down too hard on either of them at the moment because RachMarie's internet troubles were fixed less than 24 hours ago and Rubicon subbed into this game less than 24 hours ago, but I'm sorta worried about how things keep coming back to AssMuffin. There are two players on the scum team after all.In post 242, hamfactorial wrote:Are you looking for extra support for his lynch?
I wasn't going to, a scum/town mindset seems obvious to me.In post 244, Goofyd00d wrote:I'm seeing this as asking so you won't give yourself away later. Ham, obviously don't answer this.
Ok, I understand where you're coming from. I give more leeway on day 1 since nobody knows anything and we're mostly grasping at straws. In later days, I see anti-town behavior in the same light as scum behavior since everyone's vote matters more.In post 245, Onion Bubs wrote:I think this is where you and I differ. Anyone who is townie should be trying to help the town as much as possible. Some anti-town behaviour from those who don't know better is expected in the beginning, but then they should find out what it takes to be more townie and then put what they find out into practice. Any deviation from this, such as continuous anti-town behaviour, has no townie justification. Thus, anyone who is continuously anti-town is scum.In post 242, hamfactorial wrote:I need to see them display a scum mindset. I haven't seen it from AssMuffin, though his early play is anti-town. Anti-town isn't always scum, so I'm reserving judgment.
Earlier on we got him up to L-1 and someone declared intent to hammer, so I don't think there's a problem with not enough people supporting his lynch. I actually find myself wishing we could switch over to other players, in particular RachMarie and Jackal/Rubicon who have gotten by so far on doing virtually nothing. I can't come down too hard on either of them at the moment because RachMarie's internet troubles were fixed less than 24 hours ago and Rubicon subbed into this game less than 24 hours ago, but I'm sorta worried about how things keep coming back to AssMuffin. There are two players on the scum team after all.In post 242, hamfactorial wrote:Are you looking for extra support for his lynch?
Nothing to give away. but ham clearly differentiates between anti town and scum mindset so it helps to know what he qualifies as each to get a better read on him.In post 244, Goofyd00d wrote:asking so you won't give yourself away later. Ham, obviously don't answer this.
