Newbie 1523 - GAME OVER

[Rob14]

Welcome to Newbie 1523!

Moderator:

Rob13

Player List:

Hyphero
Nero Cain

growler111*

FunSizedOddball**
Sorcerer Madness***
Lynch Me Bro

SkyeLanis

Aeronaut

awestfie* David007*

(SE) OkaPoka

Luca Blight*

(SE) Xayzeck*
(IC) Cabd

RachMarie*

Bolded

when confirmed.
Prods denoted as a star (*).

Spoiler: Alive

FunSizedOddball
Lynch Me Bro
Aeronaut

Spoiler: Dead

Hyphero,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched Day 1.
Cabd,

Vanilla Townie

, has been killed Night 1.
Xayzeck,

Vanilla Townie

turned

Neutral Survivor

, has been lynched and modkilled Day 2.
Nero Cain,

Town Doctor

, has been killed Night 2.
Sorcerer Madness,

Mafia Goon

, has been lynched Day 3.
OkaPoka,

Town Tracker

, has been lynched Night 3.

[Rob14]

Newbie Ruleset

(Stolen from Nobody Special, who stole it from KittyMo; provenance further within)

Game Rules (Modified from Zorblag, who modified them from Vel-Rahn Koon):

General Gameplay and Etiquette:

1. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it. Mafia members may communicate at night and during the confirmation stage, but only in the QuickTopic specified in your role PM.
3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM or relevant QuickTopic by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
4. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase. This is greatly appreciated if you plan not to perform an action.

Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:

1. A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a lynch to occur prior to deadline. The number of players required to lynch will be in all vote counts.
2. Once you have reached a simple majority no further votes or unvotes count.
3. Once a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players including the one who was lynched may continue to post during twilight.
4. Please submit votes as:

Vote: PlayerName

or VOTE: PlayerName. I will count all votes that I can understand as a clear vote, so abbreviations of usernames are fine.
5. Please submit vote revocations as either

Unvote: PlayerName

or UNVOTE: PlayerName or UNVOTE: . Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
6. You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a lynch.
7. This game will have two week day deadlines. At deadline, no lynch will occur if no majority has been reached.
8. This game will have 48 hour night deadlines.

Miscellaneous/Mechanics:

1.

This color

text is reserved for the Mod (#C35817). No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.
2. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mod privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
3.

Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.

4. Prods of missing players will be issued automatically after 48 hours of no activity. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond or risks replacement. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to replacement without further notice.
5. Rule violations will be dealt with according to their severity, up to and including a Modkill.
6.

If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread.

Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.

The Golden Rule:

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game.

Helpful Links:

• Main Wiki Page
  
  
• Newbie Guide
  
  
• Frequently Asked Questions
  
  
• Commonly Used Abbreviations
  
  
• Mafia Theory

[Rob14]

Newbie Setup

Matrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum):

	A	B	C
1	Town Jailkeeper	Vanilla Townie	Mafia Goon
2	Mafia Roleblocker	Town Cop	Town Doctor
3	Town 1-shot Bulletproof	Mafia Goon	Town Tracker

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by mafia goons and vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup. For example Row 1 (1 jailkeeper, 1 vanilla townie, 1 mafia goon) would add an additional 5 vanilla townies and 1 mafia goon, for a total setup of 1 jailkeeper, 6 vanilla townies, and 2 mafia goons.

*Roleblocker will take precedence over jailkeeper when resolving night actions should that apply.

Sample Role PMs:

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

1-shot Bulletproof Townie

Welcome!

You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

You will survive 1 kill attempt during the game. This does not include lynches.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player they targeted with their action, if any.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon/Roleblocker

.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional topic, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional topic, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here. Confirm by replying to this PM.

[Rob14]

All role PMs have been sent out. All players must confirm within 48 hours, and the game will begin when all players have confirmed.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-07-16 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

You'll be happy to know two things:

1) We're 2.5 hours away from the game starting. It will start on time even if the final player has not confirmed by then.
2) I already have a replacement lined up for the player who has not yet confirmed, if needed.

Almost there!

[Rob14]

Lynch Me Bro replaces SkyeLanis.

[Rob14]

Day 1 has begun! With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

In order to use vote tags or bold text, type the following:

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: PLAYER YOU WANT TO VOTE[/b]
or
[vote]PLAYER YOU WANT TO VOTE[/vote]

It will look like this:

Vote: PLAYER YOU WANT TO VOTE

or
VOTE: PLAYER YOU WANT TO VOTE

Also,

VOTE: Abstain

is not a valid vote, but

VOTE: No Lynch

is.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.1:

Lynch Me Bro:

RachMarie, Xayzeck, FunSizedOddball (3)

David007:

Hyphero, Sorcerer Madness (2)

Sorcerer Madness:

David007 (1)

RachMarie:

Lynch Me Bro (1)

Not Voting:

growler111, Luca Blight

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.2:

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

David007:

Hyphero (1)

Sorcerer Madness:

David007 (1)

FunSizedOddball:

Xayzeck (1)

Hyphero:

growler111 (1)

Not Voting:

Luca Blight, FunSizedOddball, Sorcerer Madness, Lynch Me Bro

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Luca Blight has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.3:

growler111:

RachMarie, Xayzeck (2)

Hyphero:

growler111 (1)

Sorcerer Madness:

David007 (1)

Xayzeck:

Hyphero (1)

Not Voting:

Luca Blight, FunSizedOddball, Sorcerer Madness, Lynch Me Bro

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.4:

Hyphero:

growler111, David007, Lynch Me Bro (3)

growler111:

RachMarie, Xayzeck (2)

Xayzeck:

Hyphero (1)

Not Voting:

Luca Blight, FunSizedOddball, Sorcerer Madness

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

@Lynch Me Bro - Please place your votes on a separate line in the future, or at least at the beginning of the line. When quickly skimming, it's very easy for me to miss a vote that's in the middle of a line. I've counted it this time, but may not in the future if I were to miss it. Thanks!

[Rob14]

FunSizedOddball has been prodded.

[Rob14]

OkaPoka replaces Luca Blight.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.5:

Hyphero:

growler111, David007, Sorcerer Madness (3)

growler111:

RachMarie, Xayzeck (2)

Lynch Me Bro:

Hyphero (1)

Not Voting:

OkaPoka, FunSizedOddball, Lynch Me Bro

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

RachMarie has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.6:

Hyphero:

growler111, David007, Sorcerer Madness, FunSizedOddball (4)

FunSizedOddball:

Xayzeck, OkaPoka (2)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

RachMarie:

Hyphero (1)

Not Voting:

Lynch Me Bro

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.7:

Hyphero:

David007, Sorcerer Madness, FunSizedOddball (3)

FunSizedOddball:

OkaPoka, Hyphero, Xayzeck (3)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

Not Voting:

Lynch Me Bro, growler111

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.8:

FunSizedOddball:

OkaPoka, Hyphero, Xayzeck (3)

Hyphero:

David007, FunSizedOddball (2)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

Not Voting:

Lynch Me Bro, growler111, Sorcerer Madness

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

She hasn't declared V/LA in-thread, although she's welcome to do so.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.9:

OkaPoka:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Hyphero:

David007, FunSizedOddball (2)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

FunSizedOddball:

OkaPoka (1)

Not Voting:

Lynch Me Bro, growler111, Sorcerer Madness

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

RachMarie is V/LA until further notice, as declared by PM.

Just a quick note to everyone about how V/LAs work on the site:

Your moderators will not always be aware of or check your posts to see if you have the V/LA ribbon enabled. Enabling the V/LA ribbon is a GREAT way to help out the rest of the players in the game and let them know when you're away and can't respond to any questions/concerns, but it should not be treated as a replacement for announcing in-thread that you'll be V/LA.

Thanks!

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.10:

OkaPoka:

Xayzeck, Hyphero, growler111 (3)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, OkaPoka, Lynch Me Bro, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

RachMarie until further notice.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

@Mod:

I unvoted hyp.

Noted and fixed. Thanks for letting me know.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.11:

OkaPoka:

Hyphero (1)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

Lynch Me Bro:

OkaPoka (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, Lynch Me Bro, Xayzeck, David007, growler111

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

RachMarie until 7/25.
Lynch Me Bro until 7/27.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.12:

Lynch Me Bro:

OkaPoka, Hyphero (2)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

growler111:

RachMarie (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, Lynch Me Bro, Xayzeck, David007, growler111

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

Lynch Me Bro until 7/27.
FunSizedOddball until 7/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-07-30 22:30:00)

Growler111 has been prodded. Please note the approaching deadline above.

[Rob14]

The deadline is currently suspended due to several V/LAs and seeking replacement for RachMarie. I plan to extend it by around three days, but we'll see how quickly I can get a replacement.

Just to explain quickly (since this is a newbie), an extended deadline doesn't normally happen in typical situations. It's the player's responsibility to lynch by the deadline, but in certain extreme cases where several replacements are required (or in this case, where IC inactivity was an issue) the mod can choose to extend the deadline by a small amount.

[Rob14]

Cabd replaces RachMarie. The deadline has been extended three days, and will not be extended again.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Nero Cain replaces growler111.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.13:

Lynch Me Bro:

OkaPoka, Hyphero (2)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

Nero Cain:

Cabd (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, Lynch Me Bro, Xayzeck, David007, Nero Cain

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

Lynch Me Bro until 7/27.
FunSizedOddball until 7/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.14:

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain, OkaPoka (2)

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

Nero Cain:

Cabd (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, Lynch Me Bro, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

FunSizedOddball until 7/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.15:

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero, Lynch Me Bro (3)

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain, OkaPoka (2)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

Nero Cain:

Cabd (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

FunSizedOddball until 7/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.16:

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain, OkaPoka, Cabd (3)

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball (1)

Sorcerer Madness:

Lynch Me Bro (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

FunSizedOddball until 7/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Nope. You must have been looking at an old deadline. The only extension that has (or will be) given is a 3 day extension upon your replace in.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.17:

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball, OkaPoka (2)

Sorcerer Madness:

Lynch Me Bro (1)

Lynch Me Bro:

Cabd (1)

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

FunSizedOddball until 7/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

bumpity bump

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.18:

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball, OkaPoka, Lynch Me Bro, Nero Cain (4)

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Lynch Me Bro:

Cabd (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Xayzeck has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Sorcerer Madness has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.18 (unchanged):

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball, OkaPoka, Lynch Me Bro, Nero Cain (4)

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Lynch Me Bro:

Cabd (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.19 (FINAL):

Hyphero:

FunSizedOddball, OkaPoka, Lynch Me Bro, Nero Cain, Cabd (5)

Cabd:

Xayzeck, Hyphero (2)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, David007

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-02 22:30:00)

[Rob14]

Hyphero,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched Day 1.

Night 1 has begun! Please submit all night actions within (expired on 2014-08-04 19:00:00).

[Rob14]

Cabd,

Vanilla Townie

, has been killed Night 1.

Day 2 has begun! With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.1:

Sorcerer Madness:

OkaPoka, Lynch Me Bro (2)

Not Voting:

]Nero Cain, FunSizedOddball, Sorcerer Madness, David007, Xayzeck

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.1 (unchanged):

Sorcerer Madness:

OkaPoka, Lynch Me Bro (2)

Not Voting:

Nero Cain, FunSizedOddball, Sorcerer Madness, David007, Xayzeck

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

The site will be unavailable starting 2AM EDT on Saturday, August 9th, to address some issues we have been having lately. Downtime should be under an hour, but as with anything could extend beyond that.

[Rob14]

@MOD request prod on David

Please don't post to request a prod unless it's been a while after 2 days and I've missed it somehow. I check activity/prods rather obsessively, so I'm almost guaranteed to get it within an hour above 2 days. As it is now, it's less than 15 minutes "past" when a prod can be issued.

David007 has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.2:

Sorcerer Madness:

Lynch Me Bro (1)

Lynch Me Bro:

OkaPoka (1)

David007:

FunSizedOddball (1)

Not Voting:

Nero Cain, Sorcerer Madness, David007, Xayzeck

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

awestfie replaces David007!

[Rob14]

Sorcerer Madness has been prodded.

[Rob14]

awestfie has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.3:

Lynch Me Bro:

OkaPoka (1)

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain (1)

awestfie:

Lynch Me Bro (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, awestfie, Xayzeck, FunSizedOddball

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

Aeronaut replaces awestfie.

[Rob14]

Sorcerer Madness has been prodded.

[Rob14]

FunSizedOddball has been prodded.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.4:

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain, OkaPoka (2)

Aeronaut:

Lynch Me Bro (1)

Not Voting:

Sorcerer Madness, Aeronaut, Xayzeck, FunSizedOddball

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

Just as a heads up, I'm going into surgery on Wednesday. I'll likely not be around for a bit over 24 hours starting the morning of 8/13 (which is conveniently my birthday - fun!). If something realllllly serious happens that absolutely cannot wait for my return (i.e. a major breach of the rules that compromises the integrity of the game), please PM EspeciallyTheLies who will get a hold of me by text. Otherwise, I'll be back sometime on Thursday.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.5 (FINAL):

Xayzeck:

Nero Cain, Aeronaut, Lynch Me Bro, Xayzeck (4)

Aeronaut:

OkaPoka (1)

Lynch Me Bro:

Sorcerer Madness (1)

Not Voting:

FunSizedOddball

With 7 people alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

V/LA:

OkaPoka until 8/20.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-18 19:15:00)

[Rob14]

Xayzeck,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched Day 2.

Night 2 begins! Please submit all night actions within (expired on 2014-08-15 18:05:00).

[Rob14]

Nero Cain,

Town Doctor

, has been killed Night 2.

Day 3 begins! With 5 people alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-29 18:15:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #3.1:

Lynch Me Bro:

Sorcerer Madness (1)

Sorcerer Madness:

Aeronaut (1)

Not Voting:

FunSizedOddball, Lynch Me Bro, OkaPoka

With 5 people alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

V/LA:

OkaPoka until 8/20.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-29 18:15:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #3.2 (FINAL):

Sorcerer Madness:

Aeronaut, Lynch Me Bro, Sorcerer Madness (3)

Not Voting:

FunSizedOddball, OkaPoka

With 5 people alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

V/LA:

OkaPoka until 8/20.
Aeronaut until 8/21.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-08-29 18:15:00)

[Rob14]

Sorcerer Madness,

Mafia Goon

, has been lynched Day 3.

Night 3 has begun! Please submit all night actions within (expired on 2014-08-18 08:25:00).

[Rob14]

OkaPoka,

Town Tracker

, has been killed Night 3.

Day 4 has started! With 3 people alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-09-01 09:15:00)

[Rob14]

Vote Count #4.1:

FunSizedOddball:

Lynch Me Bro, Aeronaut (2)

Not Voting:

FunSizedOddball

With 3 people alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

V/LA:

Aeronaut until 8/21.

Deadline:

(expired on 2014-09-01 09:15:00)

[Rob14]

FunSizedOddball,

Mafia Goon

, has been lynched Day 4.

Xayzeck has been posthumously modkilled for self-hammering as town (an example of playing against your wincon) after discussion with the listmod. Xayzeck becomes a

Neutral Survivor

and therefore loses.

Town wins!

Final details of the game setup, night actions, and my mod notes are coming in the next few minutes, and then the thread will be open for discussion.

[Rob14]

Role Distribution:

Hyphero - VT
Nero Cain - Town Doctor
FunSizedOddball - Mafia Goon
Sorcerer Madness - Mafia Goon
Lynch Me Bro - VT
Aeronaut - VT
OkaPoka (SE) - Town Tracker
Xayzeck (SE) - VT --> Neutral Survivor (modkilled)
Cabd (IC) - VT

Night 1:
OkaPoka - Track: Cabd (resolves; result: nothing)
Nero Cain - Protect: OkaPoka (resolves)
Sorcerer Madness - Kill: Cabd (resolves)

Night 2:
OkaPoka - Track: Aeronaut (resolves; result: nothing)
Nero Cain - Protect: OkaPoka (resolves)
Sorcerer Madness - Kill: Nero Cain (resolves)

Night 3:
OkaPoka - Track: FSO (resolves; result: targeted OkaPoka)
FunSizedOddball - Kill: OkaPoka (resolves)

[Rob14]

Spoiler: My Mod Notes - These are all the things I wish I could have told you/taught you throughout the game, but couldn't, since I was the mod.

1) L-1 is when you’re one vote away from a lynch. Four votes is L-1 with nine players in the game, for instance, since five players is a lynch. I saw a lot of instances of players mistaking three votes for L-1 in that situation, and that mistake can cause early claims that expose information to the scum that’s best kept secret until reveal is necessary.

2) One of the biggest mistakes in this game was a failure to use votes properly. As a townie, especially a VT, your BEST weapon is your vote. Your vote is what allows you to pressure people and scumhunt. Other than for very brief times when you may have to remove it to prevent a lynch before you want to end the day, you should ALWAYS be voting someone. It’s better to be voting your strongest town read and pressuring them to make sure they keep sending off town vibes than to have your vote on nobody. Ideally, your vote should be on who you think is the most likely to be scum. When you get more advanced in your scumhunting, you can also use it in more creative ways. For instance, I throw my vote around quite a bit when I play in order to pressure everyone and use the interactions that result to gain reads.

3) You should NEVER draw attention to your own crumb as a town PR. That’s just not good play. If you draw town’s attention to it, you’ve also drawn scum’s attention to it, and therefore you might as well have just claimed. The point of crumbing is to be able to point back to that post when you DO have to claim, and say “Hey look, guys, this is evidence my claim is true.” It’s not to try to secret code your way into deceiving the scum team. It’s much better to defend yourself normally and avoid drawing attention to your claim than to essentially claim early, since it hopefully means scum will keep you around instead of killing you. In general, if you say something that allows town to know you’re a PR, then scum will also know it. OkaPoka seemed to think for a lot of Day 1 that he was very subtle in his methods of letting certain people know he’s a tracker, but very clever in throwing scum off the trail. Wrong - scum can actually read everything you wrote themselves.

4) The fake claim of Bulletproof by OkaPoka was entirely unnecessary and just really awful play. NEVER fake claim as town if you don’t know exactly what you’re doing. There are rare situations where a fake claim can be helpful, but not many (for instance, if there’s a claimed Town Tracker in this setup and you’re the Town 1-shot Bulletproof, you could safely claim Town Doctor in order to draw a scum kill which wouldn’t successfully resolve - even this should be done carefully because the tracker could have tracked you and seen a no action, so they could counterclaim you).

5) Lynch Me Bro’s proposal to have PRs out themselves is bad for a few reasons. First, even making the proposal confirms that Lynch Me Bro is not a PR, reducing the pool of possible PRs for scum to target in the future. Second, he ignores the idea that outing both PRs means that, over the next two nights, BOTH will die, not just one. It’s better to lose the one PR than to lose both PRs. Third, If anyone was going to counterclaim Oka, they would have already done it - If there’s any PR other than a Doctor or 1-shot Bulletproof in the game, Oka’s directly counter-claimed them. Same if there’s another Tracker, of course. Based on how this setup is designed, there’s no need to have the actual PRs claim to verify Oka’s claim; he would be counter-claimed pretty much automatically if he wasn’t the actual Tracker.

6) When you communicate as either alignment, do your best to be as clear as possible. This was a perpetual issue this game, coming from both Hyphero and OkaPoka especially. There is no reason to disguise your communication as town, because other town need to understand what you’re saying, and if they’re able to understand than scum are as well. If you don’t want scum to know something, don’t say it at all. As scum, you can save whatever you want to “code” to your partner until night, and the rest should be written clearly so you come off as playing naturally. I’m thinking specifically about both the tracker claim and the “murky waters” stuff.

7) If PRs claim and you can contradict their claim, you ALWAYS do it right away. Trading even the most powerful PR for a member of the scum team is a good trade. One for one is ALWAYS at the advantage of the town. Think about it: the whole point of the cop, for instance, is to try to get guilties on scum. If someone claims a role that’s impossible due to the role you have, you’ve got your guilty - it’s the guy you can CC! For this reason, OkaPoka should have been viewed as 100% town as soon as Nero claimed, in the absence of any counter. The continued questioning of him was really not good.

8) This is less of a helpful note and more of an OMG HOW DID YOU NOT GET THAT FSO WAS SCUM. Seriously, FSO was transparently scum from Day 1. I admittedly already knew he was, so maybe I’m slightly biased, but his voting history was basically “vote anyone that has a wagon on them”, and he never really gave much in the way of reasoning. I was seriously disappointed that Cabd didn’t pick up on this. Later on, his push of “I think Oka could be scum, but I’m not sure” reeked of testing the waters on the possibility of lynching a PR.

9) A lack of tracker result does not mean someone is town. The partner could have made the kill instead of the person tracked. Oka’s track did not clear Aeronaut, and the scum team should have mentioned that to prevent having two “confirmed” town in a 5p LyLo.

10) Just to explain, Sorcerer’s self-hammer was a good move. He was getting lynched no matter what at that point. By hammering himself, he prevented FSO from having to act like town in either deciding to vote or not vote him. It deprived town of some info about his partner.

11) LyLo should really be dragged out longer than that. Even if you’re relatively sure, you should double check everything. At that point, if you get it wrong, you lose. No sense in wasting the time you have.

[Rob14]

Scum PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=58430
Dead PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=58695

Open for discussion, so discuss away!

[Rob14]

This setup is too bleeping town sided. We had 2 mislynches and still found scum xD. HAHAHAHA good job guys. Aero did good, Xay did good, nero nice fake claim but sorc outsmarted you. Oka you did good except the claim d1.

Anyways this was my first "completed" game. And my second finished game. Yay 2-0 as town so far. Hope to play with you guys again, I'm probably going to play a mini sometime soon.

It's not town-sided. In practice (i.e. actual played games), this particular "version" of the Matrix6 setup has a town winrate of 40% (sample size of 30). It's actually slightly scum-sided from that statistic.

[Rob14]

You seemed to know what you were doing as far as reads. The fake claim was bad, and I'm impressed Sorc figured it out. Never, ever fakeclaim as town. It's like rule 1. Besides that rhlugh, good playing.

for the most part I agree. My reads were pretty bad but I think Xay's play was p bad so I don't really blame myself on that one. My claim prob wasn't great but I also didn't feel absolutely horrible. Like, I kinda felt like I needed to claim 'cause I was minimally suspected and I was worried that if I claimed in lylo scum would CC me. But if I claimed doc then I'd be dead for sure but I claimed 1 shot BP in hopes that scum would buy it and shoot at Oka and thus get blocked. Maybe I should have just kept playing and not claimed but I took a risk.

Your claim was good, but holy crap did Sorcerer bend you over and fuck you.

[Rob14]

I honestly don't have much feedback for you LMB. You had caught the scumteam by Day 2. You played a very good game, probably the best on town.

My #1 advice to both you and Nero Cain is to not have GIFs as avatars because they make me want to gouge my eyes out.

[Rob14]

By the way, if any of you enjoyed my modding and would like to play in future games I moderate, please check my signature below for a list of games that will enter sign-ups shortly. Pre-ins are still available for both, so PM me if you want to pre-in.