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Post #34 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:38 am
Postby makara »
Why did you feel the need to form a counterwagon when there were just two RVS votes on you, with the second not saying "wagon ho" or anything like that?
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Post #38 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:23 pm
Postby makara »
In post 35, PantherPunt wrote:Well I had the option to carry on with fractured single votes or double someone up. Went with the latter. Sounds as though you don't like my verbiage in saying counter wagon. Am I right?
Yeah. I dislike your characterization of two RVS votes as a wagon.
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Post #44 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:27 pm
Postby makara »
In post 43, PantherPunt wrote:Lol the NGR police are here. My bad my bad...let me be nothing but serious and laser focused from now on.
The contradiction of this site being so slow paced but with people who scream scum when you say anything NGR makes me laugh a little. And the word chafe does too.
I just need to go play a turbo. Nos will hate this post
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Post #69 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:27 pm
Postby makara »
After reading through the thread i'm reading panther as town and dislike the wagon on him.
I missed espeonage's post 57 so you don't need to answer my question in 60. I agree with his reasoning in it that we need to get this game started so VOTE: tso
In post 69, makara wrote:After reading through the thread i'm reading panther as town and dislike the wagon on him.
I missed espeonage's post 57 so you don't need to answer my question in 60. I agree with his reasoning in it that we need to get this game started so VOTE: tso
So was your comment in 60 asking why a wagon on TSO an attempt for reason to join?
This is just a sheep vote for me.
Yeah, it is a sheep vote. This vote was to move the game forward and actually get a wagon going. If you had actually read my post you would know that I missed espeonages post where he gave his reason for voting. It doesn't help that tso is lurking. After the recent drama I might move my vote elsewhere but I don't see a strong enough reason to yet.
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Post #88 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:16 am
Postby makara »
I saw espeonage's vote for tso while skimming
I didn't see his post explaining it
I asked why
I noticed the post later while checking the game and agreed with the reasoning so I voted tso. That's why I said that he didn't need to answer my question.
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Post #97 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:40 pm
Postby makara »
ic/se lurker is worse to me since 1) they should be expected to participate to help the newbies and 2) as a newbie in my first game i was sorta inactive at some points because i was super lost but an experienced player knows the ropes.
is this a soft cop claim or just a town read/gut feeling?
not sure what the point of this post is from a town perspective, I don't know why you would point out any crumb type things until the person actually makes a claim
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Post #144 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:14 pm
Postby makara »
@Pantherpunt and Kim I really dislike your logic on too scummy to be scum. It essentially rewards scummy behavior and if someone is displaying scummy behavior it should always be heavily scrutinized.
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Post #145 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:17 pm
Postby makara »
In post 142, T S O wrote:I have no idea why bluntly telling you how completely useless the first 6 pages have been so far and disliking your case on Nos has made you annoyed. If you actually think you have a legitimate case, then be as articulate as you can in explaining why, before I explain how you're wrong.
tbh saying that the first 6 pages have been useless sounds like a lazy excuse not to analyze anything
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Post #150 (isolation #27) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:16 pm
Postby makara »
also i'm moving my vote back to tso VOTE: tso i really dislike most of what he's posted - not much game content, just mostly dismssing the first pages
@tso what is your reasoning behind 35? i don't like how you ignored nosferatu's question about it, if you're posting a statement like that you need to give reasoning. also, what is your reason for your dismissal of all of the game so far - I personally think the panther/nosferatu interaction has been interesting.
@nosferatu i'm having a bit of trouble following your case on panther - are you still scumreading him for the buddying thing?
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Post #163 (isolation #28) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:34 am
Postby makara »
@TSO - there's nothing I find particularly alignment indicative but I don't think it's been completely useless and dismissing it as such is anti-town at best. I'm already forming some resds.
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Post #165 (isolation #29) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:17 am
Postby makara »
No, what I mean is that there's nothing particular that jumps out as SCUM! other than crashing waves, but there's always potential to do analysis and saying its completely useless is a just an excuse to not analyze.
Anybody who doesn't have any reads yet is either lazy or scum.
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Post #174 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:26 pm
Postby makara »
reads list incoming
Spoiler: reads
vedith
- does well with questioning, good insight about the game
kim
- seems to have pro-town motivation behind posts.
overflow
- hasn't been participating much in scumhunting but i'm giving her the benefit of the doubt since that's basically how I played in my first noob game coming from tos
nosferatu
- agree with much of his case on pantherpunt.
espeonage
- pretty much null. there hasn't been much content from him
pantherpunt
- his case on nosferatu is weak and sorta feels like looking for a reason to scumread someone. i also didn't like his intentional trolling 47-49
t s o
- see vote above. i'm also not satisfied with his answers to my vote
crashingwaves
- pls post moar. more likely be disinterested scum but really I'd like to hear from his replacement (assuming he will be replaced which is the most probable) before putting my vote back on him.
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Post #300 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:48 pm
Postby makara »
@LicketyQuickety – can you actually justify your scumread on me? The first time I voted with Espeonage was to get the game going, which is a town motivation. Second time I voted TSO and explained my scumread on him. Also where did I sheep a scumread?
Lickety is not being honest with his argumentation which is a big scumtell to me. I see no reason to move my vote.
Vedith vs. Panther is TvT, and Kim is a strong townread of mine. That leaves me with LicketyQuickety, Espeonage and Overflow. This group probably contains both of the scum. I have a scumread on Lickety for because of the whole CW situation and his dishonest argumentation, a scumread on Espeonage for his “derp”hammer.
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Post #301 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:51 pm
Postby makara »
In post 299, LicketyQuickety wrote:You know what. I'll take it back. Pre-Flip associations are bad. I still think we need to flip markara. I really do think they are Scum. I admit my case on Esp is not as strong, but I am still Sus of Esp for not pointing out that markara was sheeping a Scum read.
You can flip me. Poor Lickety, you'll look so scummy when I flip town
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Post #307 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:30 pm
Postby makara »
In post 150, makara wrote:also i'm moving my vote back to tso VOTE: tso i really dislike most of what he's posted - not much game content, just mostly dismssing the first pages
@tso what is your reasoning behind 35? i don't like how you ignored nosferatu's question about it, if you're posting a statement like that you need to give reasoning. also, what is your reason for your dismissal of all of the game so far - I personally think the panther/nosferatu interaction has been interesting.
@nosferatu i'm having a bit of trouble following your case on panther - are you still scumreading him for the buddying thing?
In post 142, T S O wrote:I have no idea why bluntly telling you how completely useless the first 6 pages have been so far and disliking your case on Nos has made you annoyed. If you actually think you have a legitimate case, then be as articulate as you can in explaining why, before I explain how you're wrong.
tbh saying that the first 6 pages have been useless sounds like a lazy excuse not to analyze anything
Your whole reason for voting with Esp was the sheep vote and you not that much later said they were your second strongest Scum read.
who is "they"?
This one vote is your entire case. I've already explained my reasoning on it, to move the game forward. TSO wasn't looking especially towny and I disliked both of the wagons.
Your whole reason for voting with Esp was the sheep vote and you not that much later said they were your second strongest Scum read.
who is "they"?
This one vote is your entire case. I've already explained my reasoning on it, to move the game forward. TSO wasn't looking especially towny and I disliked both of the wagons.
They is Esp. I don't know many people by gender so I just say them or they. But yeah, what I meant by that is that what I said could easily be written as "Your whole reason for voting with Esp was the sheep vote and you not that much later said
they
Esp were your second strongest Scum read."
wat?
I never said anything about Esp being my second strongest scumread or anything about scumreading him at all until day 2. The first time I gave reads was 100 posts after the vote on TSO. This is a complete lie, and it only proves my point about dishonest argumentation.
In post 150, makara wrote:also i'm moving my vote back to tso VOTE: tso i really dislike most of what he's posted - not much game content, just mostly dismssing the first pages
@tso what is your reasoning behind 35? i don't like how you ignored nosferatu's question about it, if you're posting a statement like that you need to give reasoning. also, what is your reason for your dismissal of all of the game so far - I personally think the panther/nosferatu interaction has been interesting.
@nosferatu i'm having a bit of trouble following your case on panther - are you still scumreading him for the buddying thing?
In post 163, makara wrote:@TSO - there's nothing I find particularly alignment indicative but I don't think it's been completely useless and dismissing it as such is anti-town at best. I'm already forming some resds.
- does well with questioning, good insight about the game
kim
- seems to have pro-town motivation behind posts.
overflow
- hasn't been participating much in scumhunting but i'm giving her the benefit of the doubt since that's basically how I played in my first noob game coming from tos
nosferatu
- agree with much of his case on pantherpunt.
espeonage
- pretty much null. there hasn't been much content from him
pantherpunt
- his case on nosferatu is weak and sorta feels like looking for a reason to scumread someone. i also didn't like his intentional trolling 47-49
t s o
- see vote above. i'm also not satisfied with his answers to my vote
crashingwaves
- pls post moar. more likely be disinterested scum but really I'd like to hear from his replacement (assuming he will be replaced which is the most probable) before putting my vote back on him.
This is what I get for being an airhead. You had TSO as your second strongest scum read and me as your first. IIRC its because we have lurked and not much else besides that. So I see that you actually were sheeping a Null read instead of a Scum read which is not as bad. That makes my case on you much weaker I'll admit.
So at this point I'm just going to give my Town reads which are Panther and Kim.
Only my first vote could be called a sheep by any means.
Again you are lying. My scumread on C_W was not only for the lurking but the unexpected L-1. My scumread on TSO was for his flippant dismissal of everything in pages 1-6
Post 163 wasn't referring to what tso had posted, but the content of the first six pages of the game
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Post #354 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:05 pm
Postby makara »
In post 351, LicketyQuickety wrote:I have decided we are lynching Esp today. Nothing about their play in this game is Pro-Town. With the incessant excuses for their play and a hammer that never should have been there is no excuse not to lynch them this game day.
VOTE: Esp
Don't try to lead. You are just as scummy if not more scummy than Espeonage
In post 333, Espeonage wrote:Ok then what's the point of reiterating his suspicions. That's fucking weird.
And nah, I figured coz of tyhe whole defending thing/
It's to convey that I am extremely suspicious of it.
Why are you insisting on arguing about "appendages of suspicion" instead of scumhunting?
Appendage Of Suspicion: Espeonage
I am scum hunting. I am however very unorthodox. I have wagoned people in the past for using such things. I hate the whole concept of it and am glad it died out. The main reason I dislike it is because it removes a lot of accountability for pushes, which is definitely scum motivated, and if you want to push a different scum read then just say as much and explain your prioritisation. (Hint: Something Lickety is avoiding right now)
So yeah, I'm scumhunting.
Here's the thing. In this case, I had already been voting LQ before he replaced in and using the Arm of Suspicion was the best way to re-affirm my push and emphasize his scumminess. Since my vote was already on him, I'm accountable for the push.
The Appendage of Suspicion on you was mostly facetious.