Newbie 1717: Newbies Through the Looking Glass (Game Over)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #41 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:54 am

VOTE: Accountant

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #42 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:54 am

VOTE: Accountant

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #44 (isolation #2) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:32 am

I'll let you know later. I am definitely scumreading the slot but this is more of a poke at it and see what happens kind of thing.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #49 (isolation #3) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:23 am

I like the newbies in this game.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #79 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:31 pm

so why did you vote me?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #109 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:50 am

Really, really like my Accountant vote.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #131 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:49 am

I'm still really happy with my Accountant vote.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #144 (isolation #7) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:50 am

I'm happy with what's going on and really busy irl so probs not gonna do much besides let Accountant get himself lynched.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #155 (isolation #8) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:12 am

Accountant is scum. stop voting people who aren't accountant and start voting people who are.

Note that Accountant hasn't said anything to me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #157 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:40 am

I am busy as hell. I am sorry.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #178 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:57 pm

Note the continued vote on Accountant.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #187 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:20 am

I'm waiting for you to get lynched.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #194 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:40 pm

I'm fine with that as long as Accountant goes tomorrow.

I am super busy IRL until the 21st. You're not getting a wallcase from me until then.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #221 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:57 am

Oh, hi Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #222 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:03 am

I'll set aside a block of time before the 20th to tackle this game then.

Taking accountant off L-1 until that time.

UNVOTE:

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #231 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:43 pm

In post 229, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 222, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll set aside a block of time before the 20th to tackle this game then.

Taking accountant off L-1 until that time.

UNVOTE:
More when I have time, but I really don't like this unvote. RC's screaming "Accountant's scum. Really like him for scum. Like my vote on him. He's scum, but I'm busy, so I won't give reasons, but he's scum." And suddenly, "I'm busy, so I'll unvote for now." I didn't have a problem with his tunneling on Accountant before he made this unvote.

It wouldn't really do much good to vote RC now since he won't be doing anything until the 20th, but I want to hear from Pants or his replacement soon, since the unannounced L-1 by an SE was a pretty scummy move.

Postie replaced in and her being in the game makes me unwilling to push a lynch until I've fully read.

I still have a strong scumread on Accountant but I've mostly ignored the rest of the game. I want to have more on the entire playerlist before I let Accountant get lynched, reegardless of flip.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #236 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:24 am

It means, shocker, I like playing with Postie and I want to put everything into the game when we're in it together.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #240 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:46 am

Take posties word for it. Its either town or me emulating such. Thinking its outright scummy is 100% wrong.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #246 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:59 pm

I like playing with you Accountant but Postie is probably my #1 favourite person to play mafia with.

She gets certain effort priviledges that you don't

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #256 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:47 pm

Accountant is getting scummier and scummier for the record.

Like, they really need rope today.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #263 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:46 pm

IV/Accountant scumteam. discuss.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #271 (isolation #21) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:02 am

In post 268, Accountant wrote:Lycanfire is null. My read on RC is based on their lack of scumhunting, not OMGUS. Someone still needs to explain the case on me because there's absolutely no reasoning.

not town rxn.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #301 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:11 pm

OK. Tomorrow!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #308 (isolation #23) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:45 am

I am mostly freed up but haven't slept. I am going to sleep now, when I wake up this is my #1 priority.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #320 (isolation #24) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:47 am

VOTE: Accountant

Postie, what's your Snoe read?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #322 (isolation #25) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:51 am

I don't particularly like your Lycan case.

I'm withholding my opinion on your Snoe case until I get something from Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #330 (isolation #26) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:27 am

Can someone go check if Pants is more likely to replace as town or scum?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #332 (isolation #27) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 am

Vtown: {Grace}
Towny: {Postie, Harkonnen}
Nulltown: {IV}
Nullscum: {Simoyd, Lycanfire}
Scummy: {Snoe, Accountant}

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #333 (isolation #28) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:38 am

I'm going to go through my four scumreads again and see which I'm thinking is most likely to flip town.

You better be town Postie

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #335 (isolation #29) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:43 am

I don't like at all Simoyd playing up their newbiness.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #336 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:44 am

Something that I was thinking is that both Pants and Accountant would be sorta scared at me after our last game.

I wouldn't be surprised if Scum!Accountant said that they should bus the other if pressure ever went down.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #338 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:47 am

They literally do it everywhere in virtually all of their posts.

They also keep trying to play it cool and seem like they're not taking the game seriously which rubs me the wrong way.

I'm not sure if it's scum but I seriously dislike it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #340 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:52 am

In post 173, Simoyd wrote:
In post 171, Accountant wrote:How else would I get RC to vote with me?
I'm not sure one exists, but did you really expect to yield any fruit for this effort?

In post 186, Simoyd wrote:Titus has nothing to do with this game. RC's signature says he's a alt of Titus (another member on this forum). Some people read into that meta, but it's a lie so there's no meta to read into.

NAI is "not alignment indicative".

In post 209, Simoyd wrote:I feel like RC must know that if accountant flips town then RC would be next for lynch (assuming RC isn't NK'd). He even said that he'd be okay with both of them dying after day two. This gives me a town lean on RC (at least until accountant flips).

In post 234, Simoyd wrote:Getting prodded once then replaced is a town tell right?

In post 243, Simoyd wrote:*dramatic pause*

Stuff like this. I don't like the approach to the game.

I can write it off as a playstyle dislike thing for now though.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #346 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:28 am

Snoe, what do you think about my reads?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #347 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:29 am

In post 345, Simoyd wrote:And here I thought 209 was pretty good...

What's your read on me?

Thoughts?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #350 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:46 am

Why would an accountant townflip make you scumread me?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #353 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:25 am

Snoe, map out your read progression on Accountant from game start please.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #355 (isolation #37) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:27 am

I 'got a free ride' because I was V/LA and people townread my playstyle.

Pants didn't get a free ride at all and was in fact heavily scumread.

I'm not following you.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #358 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:52 am

I assure you, I've earned it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #363 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:30 pm

You should, because if you don't I will vote you instead today.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #365 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:34 pm

You should help me bus then.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #367 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:47 pm

You are replaced. please don't post again.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #370 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:53 pm

You produced 0 content over 9 days.

I don't think replacing you is at all unreasonable.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #379 (isolation #43) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:42 pm

Why do you need to put an IC hat on to tell someone that they shouldn't break rules?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #412 (isolation #44) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:36 am

Because he said so basically, as far as I can tell.

If we were to lynch Snoe I'd want to autolynch Lycan if he flipped town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #414 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:12 am

In post 413, Lycanfire wrote:
In post 411, Postie wrote:
In post 406, Lycanfire wrote:Since I feel it's near impossible for Snoe/Accountant to be partners,
Why's this? Sorry if you've already explained it; I'm finding your walls a bit hard to follow.
Because Pants wanted Accountant lynched and sure didn't seem to care how or why.

stahp.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #417 (isolation #46) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:38 am

can we just lynch lycan?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #420 (isolation #47) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:45 am

I don't see it as a first language issue I just think he's got really weird reads.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #465 (isolation #48) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:12 pm

that's not a scumslip?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #497 (isolation #49) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:17 am

I think it speaks volumes that Accountant is refusing to talk to me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #500 (isolation #50) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:19 am

Don't you dare.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #501 (isolation #51) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:20 am

Simoyd please either revote or just unvote and give me time to work this out with Titus.

Titus, what are your reads?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #503 (isolation #52) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:21 am

Sorry.

Why are your reads the way they are?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #505 (isolation #53) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:23 am

Why are you townreading Accountant, why are you scumreading Postie?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #507 (isolation #54) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:24 am

Are you not at all concerned by the fact that Accountant gave a nonsensical reason to refuse to try to engage with me at all?

=\ Getting told by two people means one must be town... I do still prefer an Accountant lynch.

VOTE: Accountant

Unless we're scumpartners, but even in that case Snoe would be town.

I'm not saying Snoe is town 100%, I'm just saying that Accountant is more likely to be scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #509 (isolation #55) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:26 am

In post 508, Harkonnen97 wrote:I believe that Blank is a better lynch than Accountant.

0 reasons given.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #516 (isolation #56) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:32 am

What are the odds that it's Grace/Accountant and that fight they had where Accountant had all the hammed up reactions was a planned distancing attempt?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #519 (isolation #57) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:34 am

Like, this is not how Titus as town usually engages with me.
She usually lays her thoughts out because she wants to be understood. The emphasis is never on me sharing my reasons so much as it is just on understanding where I'm at reads wise.
I'm not saying she's autoscum but I don't like this exchange.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #520 (isolation #58) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:35 am

We should have Snoe's vote by default, which means I just need to convince IV to vote with us. It's not a daunting task.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #522 (isolation #59) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:36 am

I find that it's easier to look town in an exchange when you know you're not actually talking to town.
Scum-scum reactions are insanely rarely called scum-scum by virtually anyone besides me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #525 (isolation #60) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:38 am

Well, that just proves that Accountant is scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #532 (isolation #61) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:52 am

I have a massive case incoming. Hold on.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #535 (isolation #62) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:00 am

Anyway. Why am I scumreading accountant?

1) Deliberately staying on the down low.

Note that all of his posts since the early game have been extremely short and clipped.
His stances are extremely mainstream, with his vote on Blank (the current largest wagon) and nothing particularly exciting or out there in his ISO.
He's deliberately avoiding responsibility for his actions by saying that he's already done his share and is waiting for a lynch, yet hasn't visibly scumhunted in thread.
He's responding to things but not really expressing any of his reads. His read progression is basically follow general scumreads and OMGUS me.

Oh, and

I don't agree that a lynch on myself is the most likely option for Day 1. The case simply falls down upon a close examination. Someone like pants is far more likely to get lynched.

Huge scumtell. I can't put reasons to it at this time because I don't know them myself, but when someone says something like this they're scum 99% of the time.

2) Extremely posturey reads that don't really make sense.

Let's look at his read on me following my unvote on him, shall we?

I've already stated why I don't like RC, he's not giving reasons and making bad pushes. I know it's his meta but I don't see the spark that usually leads me to townread him early.

No, it was a statement of confusion because RC doesn't usually do this

Because if he was scum he has no reason to unvote.

Lycanfire is null. My read on RC is based on their lack of scumhunting, not OMGUS. Someone still needs to explain the case on me because there's absolutely no reasoning.

So yeah, that really doesn't make sense and feels like he's just trying not to pick a stance that will get him pushed on for.

Don't have much time on the computer - RC and snoe are scummy, Lycan and IV are TvT. Simoyd is scumlean, rest are null or townlean. Postie isn't doing as much as I thought she would with her strong entrance

Why? Oh, and unlike me, Accountant gives reasons.

Bussing scum

Does he follow this up at all? Answer: No.

The case simply falls down upon a close examination.

Do you really think that this, in this manner, is something town says about a case on them?

Hey Simoyd, I think you're sheeping RC and hiding behind your newbness to justify it. Your readslist is very similar to his and you're voting the same person as him without strong reasoning. I'd like to hear your defense against this.

I cannot conceive of Town!Accountant saying to someone that they are claiming to scumread that they would 'like to hear your defense against this.' Nope. Accountant jumps on their scumreads like a great dane jumps on table food. Virtually irreconcilable to me.

Like, LOOK THROUGH ACCOUNTANT'S ISO AGAIN. do they look like someone who is trying to scumhunt & solve a game or someone who is trying to stay alive?
The only thing in their ISO that looks anything like scumhunting is their exchange with Grace. The rest is just hiding and trying to make it through the game.

3) Avoiding getting into an engagement with me because he's scared I'll get momentum going on him.

This is exactly what Accountant does when I'm in a game and he's scum since our first encounter. He hides and stays on the down low and tries to avoid pressure.
Do you really think that town!Accountant would be okay with just sitting there and refusing to interact with someone he calls his top scumread?
Do you really think that town!Accountant would simultaneously say that this is my meta while also saying that he's scumreading me for not giving reasons?
Accountant as town would get in my face and pick a fight and try to change my read. This is not him.

4) Just generally not playing his town meta.

Accountant is one of those players who has a major tonal difference between town and scum.
He's far more aggressive about pushing lynches as town, can be very tunnely, but he goes really hard on getting what he wants.
This game he's been really not trying to make an impact and that's a very strong tell with Accountant. When they are town they make huge waves.
Oh, and Accountant is generally townread by newer players when he's scum. See 1688 or 1648. Both games I ended up suddenly realizing that they were scum while the vast majority of people had them as top townreads. If all the people in these games had Accountant as a top townread when they were scum, why can't you guys be wrong as well?
Also there's just stuff I can't really put a finger to. The tonal thing that called me in 1648 is here as well, something about his town, idk. I really think he's scum.

FYI Accountant not sure whether you want to be called he or she so I've been using he. let me know. Hopefully I won't need to worry about your pronoun for long though!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #537 (isolation #63) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:13 am

Postie, you're weirding me out :\

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #539 (isolation #64) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:22 am

Everything.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #541 (isolation #65) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:29 am

If Accountant is town I am going to be super paranoid of you for the rest of the game.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #544 (isolation #66) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:34 am

If this is scum Titus is probably getting JK/Cop/Tracked anyway.
if this isn't then whatever reads I get on her will suck.

Btw, if you are a jailkeeper and this is a goon flip you should try to jailkeep someone you think is town. I suggest myself for that

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #546 (isolation #67) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:43 am

Hey, I gave you a case. Why do you think Blank is more likely to be scum than Accountant?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #548 (isolation #68) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:46 am

I mean I'm not townreading Snoe. If I see a case that's as good as my case on Accountant I can vote there.

But I feel like such a case doesn't exist.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #551 (isolation #69) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:00 am

NO, Accountant.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #553 (isolation #70) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:02 am

In post 552, Titus wrote:
In post 546, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey, I gave you a case. Why do you think Blank is more likely to be scum than Accountant?
Blank, does jackshit..gets defenses
Accountant feels town...

No. I made big case. You don't get to do this when you made me make a lengthy argument.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #555 (isolation #71) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:03 am

Did you seriously just brush my entire case off as meta?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #559 (isolation #72) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:13 am

In post 558, Titus wrote:
In post 556, Postie wrote:
In post 549, Titus wrote:Don't people in your town pool stay there?
Yep. Because people go in there for doing exceptionally towny things and exceptionally towny things don't usually suddenly become untowny. Accountant possibly having coached Grace screws with that though.
Newbie queues don't have daychat.

Accountant is paranoid as fuck of me.

I wouldn't be surprised if Accountant told Grace in pregame that they should distance.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #562 (isolation #73) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:19 am

In post 561, Titus wrote:
In post 559, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 558, Titus wrote:
In post 556, Postie wrote:
In post 549, Titus wrote:Don't people in your town pool stay there?
Yep. Because people go in there for doing exceptionally towny things and exceptionally towny things don't usually suddenly become untowny. Accountant possibly having coached Grace screws with that though.
Newbie queues don't have daychat.
Accountant is paranoid as fuck of me.

I wouldn't be surprised if Accountant told Grace in pregame that they should distance.
How does Accountant be paranoid of you as scum?

Stop being whiny and fitting behaviour to reads. You form reads based off behavior. Not everyone who disagrees w you is scum RC.

He's paranoid that I'll autocatch him. I have gotten him lynched every game he's rolled scum with me in it and I've done it very dramatically while he was being generally townread.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #567 (isolation #74) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:24 am

I can't. I could if I was townreading you, but I'm not.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #572 (isolation #75) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:28 am

OK.

But you're like, scum triggering the heck out of me right now.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #575 (isolation #76) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:31 am

I DIDNT SAY THEY HAVEN'T. I AM NOT LYNCHING YOU OMG>/.mnblmgjkvacl'l;sdbvasdb

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #579 (isolation #77) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:38 am

Any townread that I've had on that slot is long gone at this point.

Postie's still a nullread.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #582 (isolation #78) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:50 am

No, not really.

But it's not 100% something she'd never do as town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #585 (isolation #79) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:52 am

Yes, I noticed that.

I'm thinking she's scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #590 (isolation #80) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:07 am

At this point its more for reading you because I'm confident that Accountant is the lynch today.

I could lynch Titus but I would hate myself if she flipped town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #593 (isolation #81) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:10 am

No, I wouldn't. I'd be immensely frustrated with myself and probably engage in some minor self harm but I wouldn't HATE myself like I would if Titus flipped town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #596 (isolation #82) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:15 am

FTR self harm was poorly used and I apologize for it. What I meant was just like smacking my head into my desk, I didn't mean anything beyond that. Sorry.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #647 (isolation #83) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:32 pm

Stop being so bad jfc.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #648 (isolation #84) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:33 pm

And yes, Titus is trying to push the lynch through quickly as possible and nightkill me.

That's not happening. we lynch Accountant today.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #651 (isolation #85) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:37 pm

100%.

You can verify it yourself.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #657 (isolation #86) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:57 pm

4 / 4

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #659 (isolation #87) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:05 pm

Just tell me if you're a diagonal PR (Tracker/JK/Cop) you will check Titus tonight if this is a scum flip, not one of those 3.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #666 (isolation #88) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:47 pm

Get Accountant to L-1 so he can make his PR claim which I will promptly hammer him through.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #670 (isolation #89) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:07 pm

IV stop.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #672 (isolation #90) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:11 pm

Here's what's going to happen.

If this flips town all PRs can do whatever.

If it flips scum I am going to assume that diagonal PR is auto targetting Titus.
That means if you flip later and haven't claimed we are taking Titus as confirmed town.

Just do it, please.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #675 (isolation #91) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:41 pm

That seems like a fairly strong reason to want to lynch you.

Claim.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #683 (isolation #92) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:46 pm

If he hasn't claimed in 24H autolynch him. He's scum trying to get his claim as close to deadline as possible so there's no time to CC.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #686 (isolation #93) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:22 pm

Hammer him. Don't wait for a claim.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #690 (isolation #94) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:28 pm

In post 688, Titus wrote:Why wouldn't you hammer Black star? Same setup there and I said hammer was ok there..

Not sure what this refers to.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #692 (isolation #95) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:32 pm

I don't remember this game

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #694 (isolation #96) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:37 pm

BECAUSE I DONT WANT BLANKFACE HAMMERED JFC YOU KNOW THIS.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #696 (isolation #97) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:39 pm

It's not subtle that you're leading Accountant into claiming a PR.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #697 (isolation #98) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:40 pm

Okay, this is Accountant/Titus. game over. we can all go home now.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #700 (isolation #99) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:43 pm

Just do your intent to hammer and let's get this already finished game over with.

Oh really, can you not shut up and think that I'm not that moronic?

Only reason I'd unvote Accountant is to lynch you.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #703 (isolation #100) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:47 pm

Wait for them to claim PR and out a CC? Nah, don't think so.

I would like Accountant lynched before they claim.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #766 (isolation #101) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:23 am

VOTE: Postie

I'm really sorry Titus.
Tracker/Cop claims if they have a guilty, cop claims if they have an inno on Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #769 (isolation #102) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:42 am

In post 768, Harkonnen97 wrote:I can relate so much to tunneling on someone in a TvT and being wrong :<

You say this like you know I'm town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #771 (isolation #103) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:56 am

You say this like I have a town pool at all.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #782 (isolation #104) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:25 am

I think Lycan is my non-Postie option right now but I'm probably going to stick with Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #784 (isolation #105) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:31 am

When Titus was obv-PR your entire argument becomes meaningless.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #789 (isolation #106) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:40 am

I still think Simoyd could be scum.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:49 pm

VOTE: Lycan

I think this is scum, yeah.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:55 pm

You're scaring me Postie. Ugh.

I really hope I'm not wrong here, especially after Titus's last words =\

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #812 (isolation #109) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:05 pm

UNVOTE:

Hold your fucking horses Simoyd wtf?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #825 (isolation #110) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:25 pm

You're just sheeping my votes and not scumhunting independently.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #826 (isolation #111) » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:31 pm

I just want to say for the record Accountant refusing to engage me at all is pretty shameful.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #851 (isolation #112) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:16 am

How's Simoyd/Lycan?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #857 (isolation #113) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:15 am

In post 856, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 851, RadiantCowbells wrote:How's Simoyd/Lycan?
Now that I think about it, RC, this is much more unlikely given Simoyd's willingness to put Lycan at L-1 recklessly.

People panic bus all the time.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #864 (isolation #114) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:23 pm

In post 863, Postie wrote:
In post 862, Harkonnen97 wrote:Postie why do you put so much trust into RC?
You mean like why am I townreading him?

I third this question.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #872 (isolation #115) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:03 am

What about Simoyd/Postie?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #886 (isolation #116) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:55 am

Okay.

Blank/Postie/Simoyd is my current lynchpool.

I am back to wanting a Postie lynch.

VOTE: Postie

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #890 (isolation #117) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:12 am

How in the name of fuck am I sheeping you?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #894 (isolation #118) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:15 am

Yup. It's Simoyd/Postie. I can virtually guarantee it.

Don't anyone dare hammer Blank.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #896 (isolation #119) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:18 am

Lycan, do you not feel like Simoyd is trying to rush a Blank lynch?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #898 (isolation #120) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:21 am

I want to lynch Simoyd first but Titus wanted to force feed me humble pie so I'm sorta leaning towards lynching the one of the two that was in her lynchpool.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #914 (isolation #121) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:36 am

In post 906, innocentvillager wrote:Now that I think about it, sure it's theoretically possible that Simoyd L-1'd one of his partners to deflect suspicion from their wagon, given that he's done it twice in the span like 2 IRL days.

But I still think Simoyd is probably newbtown. His posting mostly screams newbtown. Some of his actions are pretty scummy but they can all be explained plausibly under the context of newbtown.

stop.

newbtown is very rarely newbtown. not when they're being like this.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #915 (isolation #122) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:37 am

Simoyd never L-1ed Postie either.

Where did you think this happened?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #917 (isolation #123) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:38 am

I don't think Simoyd's trying to rush a PARTICULAR lynch so much as he's trying to rush a non-Postie lynch.

Simoyd, Postie was your second biggest scumread. How did I all of a sudden become your second biggest scumread for pushing someone that you were scumreading?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #919 (isolation #124) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:40 am

Simoyd's not being newbtown they're being a slimy manipulative fuck who is rushing every single wagon besides Postie's and changing their reads all over the place to try to defend her.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #923 (isolation #125) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:42 am

When you put someone who is generally scumread to L-1 TWICE when wagons start up on her and chainsaw defend her by discrediting me when I start trying to lynch her again, yeah you're defending her.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #924 (isolation #126) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:43 am

In post 811, Simoyd wrote:VOTE: Lycanfire

>> L-1 <<

*hands innocentvillager the hammer*

Your dream just came true

HI I PUT SOMEONE TO L-1 LOUDLY AND LITERALLY ASKED SOMEONE ELSE TO HAMMER AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT'S TOTALLY NOT RUSHING ANY LYNCHES OVER THERE BUD. AND ON SOMEONE YOU NEVER REALLY CLAIMED TO SCUMREAD.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #942 (isolation #127) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:07 am

I'd switch votes to Simoyd tbh.

I'd kinda prefer it.

VOTE: Simoyd

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #945 (isolation #128) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:11 am

Accountant refused to engage me the entire game. My read was wrong but his play was unacceptable and entirely unjustified.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #947 (isolation #129) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:25 am

Okay.

Someone else put them to L-1. I want to keep my simoyd vote as a protest vote for a while.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #949 (isolation #130) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:44 am

Blank, what should my read on you be?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #953 (isolation #131) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:03 am

In post 903, Simoyd wrote:pretty sure that RC has never voted blank. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In post 910, Simoyd wrote:
In post 907, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 903, Simoyd wrote:pretty sure that RC has never voted blank. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Where are you going with this..?
RC/Blank

That's another reason I want to lynch blank

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #960 (isolation #132) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:23 am

You keep saying you're fine with either of them but only pushing for a Blank lynch and resisting a Postie lynch.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #961 (isolation #133) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:23 am

Are you claiming cop with an inno on Postie?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #962 (isolation #134) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:25 am

with a guilty on Blankface*

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #964 (isolation #135) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:27 am

DID YOU EVER CONSIDER

THAT YOU ARE SCUM WITH ME?!?!?!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #966 (isolation #136) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:29 am

psst we're good no one's onto us.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:07 am

Simoyd was really scummy.

We can lynch either of the two of you. If you want to vote Simoyd then we can lynch him.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:09 am

Uhm.

VOTE: Postie

You're more likely to escape so if that's what we're doing I'll vote you first.

You can't not find his behaviour weird.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:11 am

No, his current behaviour is not weird. it's scummy.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:12 am

You know that it's scummy or you would if you were town.

I believe this game is over.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:15 am

Oh my fucking god there's no benefit of the doubt for such a clear difference between his claimed beliefs and actions.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:18 am

In post 983, Harkonnen97 wrote:I claimed that I believe that Blank is a better lynch than Accountant Day 1. Yet, I hammered Accountant, instead of putting Blank at L-1 and letting Titus decide who to lynch. Seems like I was given the benefit of the doubt, not just in that case, but throughout this whole game. Why can't the same apply to Simoyd?

because the situations were different and you aren't trying to rush lynches through and you aren't changing your reads all over the place to maintain nonsensical reads.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:19 am

I am not lynching Blankface today no matter what.

If you have a preference between Postie and Simoyd then make that preference known, otherwise I'll just vote whichever has more votes.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:20 am

It's Postie.

OK. vote Postie with me.

VOTE: Postie

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:23 am

In post 991, Harkonnen97 wrote:IF THE ONLY POSSIBLE SCUMBUDDY OF SIMOYD IS POSTIE THEN WHY AREN'T WE LYNCHING POSTIE INSTEAD OF SIMOYD

Because it's possible that she is scum partners with someone else you know

No, it's not fucking possible so when she flips scum if I get NKed if the tracker/cop didn't check postie and we lose I'm going to be seriously irate.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:24 am

Didn't check Simoyd*

OKAY WE ARE LYNCHING POSTIE INSTEAD OF SIMOYD BUT NOW I WILL BE CONCERNED THAT YOU ARE SCUM WITH SIMOYD IF THIS IS A TOWNFLIP FTR.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:28 am

stop ateing me please, thanks.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:31 am

Against the rules otherwise I would do it.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:06 am

I'm not going to engage you whatsoever while you're doing this.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:52 pm

for fucks sake IV stop.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:54 pm

No offense but simoyd/postie is really obvious now based on Simoyd's play, based on Postie's case which makes absolutely no sense and would never trump his current inconsistencies, and based on the simple fact of the matter that Blankface slot was never that scummy.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:54 pm

FUCK OFF INNOCENT.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:54 pm

LYCAN HAS BEEN OBVTOWN THIS ENTIRE GAME DAY.

THAT NIGHT KILL MAKES NO SENSE FOR BLANKFACE/LYCAN SCUM.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:55 pm

I am going to get nightkilled tonight and town will lose.

This is stupid as hell.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:55 pm

I claim last PR. I'm controlling the lynch today.

Vote Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:56 pm

I have a cop inno on Blankface. your push is terrible.

vote Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:59 pm

I am not calming down.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:59 pm

If you vote Lycan I am policy lynching you.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:01 pm

Simoyd easily gets away with quickhammering and you can't move past your scumreads and we lose. You let Postie make me out, don't blame me for your play.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:03 pm

Accountant refused to engage me the entire game. I take 0 responsibility for misreading someone who literally refused to play the game as soon as I started scumreading them. Titus I had as town once I realized Accountant was town.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:04 pm

Maybe I'll get lucky? Are you kidding me right now?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:08 pm

U r voting my inno and you're getting mad at me for outing.

>.>

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:13 pm

You can get policy lynched as well.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:20 pm

VOTE: InnocentVillager

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:20 pm

IV you're literally a scum traitor this game.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:21 pm

I can lynch you, then no one is going to lynch Lycan, then Simoyd, then Postie.

It has the added perk of not having to deal with you potentially fucking up the lynch later.

It's like the game where I didn't PL MOI and then we nearly lost because he kept trying to lynch town.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:25 pm

I do care because I don't trust you and I trust the rest of the town. You've proven that you're easily courted by scum and I don't want to risk it happening again when we have no mislynches. You vote with me or you go.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:25 pm

In post 1041, Postie wrote:
In post 1017, innocentvillager wrote:Whoever you guys decide to vote today, as long as 0% of your reasoning is because you're sleeping RC, that's better than nothing.

But seriously vote Blank with me please. He's just been coasting. He's not even trying at this point-at least his partner is sort of trying to get themselves out of this situation by bussing.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lycanfire

Somewhere, I have fucked up massively.

Note her still trying to divert the lynch away from Postie/Simoyd.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:30 pm

Nope! We're not.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:31 pm

We can lynch Simoyd first if you prefer but one of the two of you goes today.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:33 pm

VOTE: Simoyd

You first!

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:36 pm

Oh my! You thought I was fakeclaiming! odd.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:37 pm

What the heck is Simoyd doing right now?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:40 pm

No, he's just your partner

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:43 pm

Who knows, not me, I never lost control.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:52 pm

I am cop. I will be targetting Hark tonight for #reasons. Don't do anything stupid.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:59 pm

I'll pick between Postie and Hark.

I have no strong opinions as to which is scum at this time.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:00 pm

I very sincerely doubt a townflip here but if it does well *shrug*

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:02 pm

Even if this is town please don't do anything stupid. I was really sure simoyd was scum and I'm getting NKed tonight.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:45 am

I figured it out before the end *shrug*

still super pissy about accountant doing nothing and Hark hammering before I could retract and stuff.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:48 am

Because I wanted to see your reaction to it.

Hark quickhammered before we had the chance.

That said, Simoyd's reaction basically guaranteed that he was the lynch that day because he kept insisting that everyone wait for ccs so I assumed he knew I couldn't be cop.

I knew IV was scum though.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:50 am

My plan was for them to assume that Lycan was the actual cop, nightkill them, then come out with my guilty and explanation the next day.

I am sure we would have won if I hadn't been nightkilled

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:56 am

I can go in detail about what I was actually planning but I'd rather just pretend this game never happened if that's okay with you all!

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:36 pm

Lycan was an extremely strong townread for most of the game.
I was FoSing IV a lot earlier than I let on.

Everything else was pretty accurate reads wise.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:37 pm

Specifically overnight it was because

without the Simoyd associative and Postie's super towny spreadsheet result she wasn't scum.
Lycan had been a huge townread for the majority of the game.

and it wasn't Hark/Blankface

so I thought it was you/Blank or you/Hark overnight.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:04 pm

Lycan you were really obvtown fmpov.