Newbie 1715 (Game Over)

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:52 am

In post 5, SirCakez wrote:Hello folks!
VOTE: Dwlee

Why the vote on Dwlee? Was it because they were the last to confirm or something?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:17 am

In post 8, Creature wrote:VOTE: atm487

I really want to lynch atm487 atm

*cough* you are trying to lynch someone who is not playing this game.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:23 pm

In post 10, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 9, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 8, Creature wrote:VOTE: atm487

I really want to lynch atm487 atm

*cough* you are trying to lynch someone who is not playing this game.

In post 0, Zaicon wrote:Player List:

1) atm487
?

OK, so I am the idiot here. There was a weird name that was something like atm487 that was in the game before that got replaced?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:25 pm

In post 13, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 11, SirCakez wrote:I voted Dwlee because he's good at fooling me as scum.
Have I even been scum in a game with you?

Either someone is lying or this game is chalk full of misunderstanding already on page 1.

Anyways,

VOTE: eagersnake

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:45 pm

In post 16, Dwlee99 wrote:makesnosense, Harlii, gigabyteTroubadour, Dwlee99, and LicketyQuickety to replace atm487, crazycrabman, eagerSnake, Kathryn, and Zyradow_ respectively

I don't have a completed game as scum with sircakez, so idek. I even checked.

No I'm pretty sure I saw a name like atm487 (could have been a different name that just looked similar) was a name that was crossed out. I think there might be another person who fits in this category as well, but am not sure on that.

Why aren't you voting them if you think they are blatantly lying?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #23 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:57 pm

In post 18, Dwlee99 wrote:Well they could have seen my scum game elsewhere on the site or be talking about an ongoing game. Or just not be remembering correctly.

Just noticed you both are JOAT. I feel dumb now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #24 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 21, Dragon of the West wrote:definitely gotta vote:sircakez

In post 22, Dragon of the West wrote:Sorry about that. I'm dumb
VOTE: SirCakez

Where else have you played if you have played elsewhere?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #26 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:01 pm

In post 25, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 24, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 21, Dragon of the West wrote:definitely gotta vote:sircakez

In post 22, Dragon of the West wrote:Sorry about that. I'm dumb
VOTE: SirCakez
Where else have you played if you have played elsewhere?
i haven't played anywhere else before this is my first game. unless you were talking to dwlee and just quoted me by mistake

Nope I was talking about you. you had a weird way of voting so that was the reason for the question, meaning you didn't bold your first time around and then later used vote tags.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:15 am

In post 27, Creature wrote:This was so close to become the first non-newbie newbie game...

I replaced into a newbie game that didn't have any newbies left, does that count?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #30 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:35 am

In post 29, Creature wrote:Link or that doesn't count.

Why does this even matter?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #32 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:50 am

In post 31, Creature wrote:VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Then you're lying.

O_o

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #33 (isolation #11) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:54 am

I'm debating whether I should OMGUS you or not.

That was a bad reason for voting someone even for me.

I feel me OMGUSing you is the right play here.

VOTE: Creature

With an added song for good measure:

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #37 (isolation #12) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:48 am

In post 36, Dwlee99 wrote:There is no scum motivation to lie in that situation. You have to think about why someone did something rather than "They lied so they are scum" (Which they probably didnt anyway).

I can link the game if it will settle the matter, however, that would require me to dig through all my games and that's not really something I want to do for a moot point.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #64 (isolation #13) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:36 pm

In post 61, crazycrabman wrote:VOTE: atm487

Naked vote. Gunna have to explain this vote - especially since you previously have said you can get more info without placing a vote.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #77 (isolation #14) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:04 am

In post 76, eagerSnake wrote:Sorry I haven't been the most active, I have a lot of irl responsibilities to attend to. However, I am going to start accessing the forum via my phone so I will be able to post more often going forward. I still won't be the most active, I'm sure. But, I'm currently looking into a way to somehow subscribe to the thread and receive notifications on my phone when there are unread messages. Do any of you know if there is any way to do this?

Bottom of the page on the left there is a subscribe and Bookmark buttons. Top right is where you get to your subs/books.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #79 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:21 am

In post 78, eagerSnake wrote:Okay, thank you. I am subscribed already since I have set it to auto-subscribe when I reply to a thread. Now, is there any way to receive push- or text-notifications when there is a new reply?

Don't know about that because phones are the devil when it comes to forum mafia.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #81 (isolation #16) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:23 am

In post 80, eagerSnake wrote:Lol, what do you mean?

Lets just say its a very easy way for mistakes to be made when phones are in the picture and leave it at that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #89 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:37 am

In post 88, atm487 wrote:also, thank you crazy, but it really is too suspicous to just say "it was just a social experiment i was trying to get a reaction", so yea

You're going to have to do better that that. Reaction test are a valid way of playing (Creatures not very good reaction test set aside).

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #92 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:47 am

In post 90, atm487 wrote:
In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 88, atm487 wrote:also, thank you crazy, but it really is too suspicous to just say "it was just a social experiment i was trying to get a reaction", so yea
You're going to have to do better that that. Reaction test are a valid way of playing (Creatures not very good reaction test set aside).
yes, they are, but its just suspicous to do it to me out of all people, i haven't done anything all game

Ok, so I don't see a world where atm and creature are teamed here (tho I could be missing something).

I think you voted creature right? Why wouldn't creature do a reaction test on you because of this?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #94 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:52 am

In post 93, atm487 wrote:
In post 92, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 90, atm487 wrote:
In post 89, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 88, atm487 wrote:also, thank you crazy, but it really is too suspicous to just say "it was just a social experiment i was trying to get a reaction", so yea
You're going to have to do better that that. Reaction test are a valid way of playing (Creatures not very good reaction test set aside).
yes, they are, but its just suspicous to do it to me out of all people, i haven't done anything all game
Ok, so I don't see a world where atm and creature are teamed here (tho I could be missing something).

I think you voted creature right? Why wouldn't creature do a reaction test on you because of this?
Im talking about the reaction test crab did, not creatures, which was understandable

I am making too many mistakes this game.

this is why multitasking is not good for me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #117 (isolation #20) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:45 am

@crazycrabman,

Why did you unvote so fast?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #122 (isolation #21) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:06 am

In post 118, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 117, LicketyQuickety wrote:@crazycrabman,

Why did you unvote so fast?
Because the vote's intention was to get a reaction and when that intention was out in the open, the vote served no purpose.

You could have kept the vote on and said you got a scummy reaction as an added layer. You didn't want to create too much Wifom is that why you didn't to that? What did atms reaction tell you? Obviously it looks like you are saying you think they gave a Townie reaction or you would have kept the vote on them correct?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #137 (isolation #22) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:47 pm

Scum have Night Chat.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #141 (isolation #23) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:01 pm

In post 138, Creature wrote:It's a townslip for a different reason.

Do tell.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #148 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:28 pm

In post 145, Creature wrote:I'm way more ahead of all of you.

My townblock consists of atm487, crazycrabman, Dwlee99 and SirCakez.

If I include myself, there will have 5 likely town players and 4 potential scum candidates.

You've given justification for the crabman. What about the others?

Who do you actually Scum read? I'll be honest, you've had the scummiest vibe so far by far.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #154 (isolation #25) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:52 pm

In post 150, Creature wrote:atm487 strikes me town because his posts/votes don't fit scum's, scum are usually more hesitant and afraid.

Dwlee99 is a gut feeling, a good gut feeling.

This looks like the town!SirCakez I've played with rather than the scum!SirCakez.

K.

In post 151, Creature wrote:eagerSnake's recent posts strike town for me, but I am not very confident on him being town, his questions can still come from scum. Also, I believe he played IRC mafia, so he isn't that newbie.

Dragon of the West was quite a townlean, his votes seemed town at least, but I am quite null on him now.

So it leaves you (LicketyQuickety) and Tojam2.

K.

In post 152, Creature wrote:Your posts seem like coming from scum trying to push a case on someone and at the same time stay at a town spot.

I haven't made a case on anyone yet.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #162 (isolation #26) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 160, crazycrabman wrote:LicketyQuickety (can I call you LQ?) is posting about half as slow as say in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... overview=1 when he was town.

Most people call me LQ.

You are correct. I have not been as active in this game as others.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #191 (isolation #27) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:53 pm

@Tom,

You are at L-1 (wtf). I suggest you at least give us that post that tells us how to play the game before someone derphammers you.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #195 (isolation #28) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:29 am

In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.

In post 56, Creature wrote:But he checked his PM, so it's possible he wanted to disappear because of that.

In post 127, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 123, Creature wrote:Let's help crazycrabman make a case on someone.
?
That almost sounds like a scum PM you accidentally put in the forum.

In post 128, Creature wrote:It isn't, but congratulations anyway.

UNVOTE: crazycrabman

In post 129, crazycrabman wrote:I don't get a word you are saying. Why are you congratulating me? What was the meaning of post 123?

In post 130, Creature wrote:Your post 127 has a townslip, can you say that?

In post 131, crazycrabman wrote:I have no idea what a townslip is but I'm guessing post 123 was a reaction test and I passed it. I'm new at this as you can probably see.

In post 132, Creature wrote:123 isn't a reaction test, it's supposed to be interpretated as "crazy is trying to make a case"

In post 133, crazycrabman wrote:Ohhhh, I see now, sorry.

In post 134, Creature wrote:I'll wait to see if others noticed your townslip before explaining.

In post 137, LicketyQuickety wrote:Scum have Night Chat.

In post 138, Creature wrote:It's a townslip for a different reason.

In post 141, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 138, Creature wrote:It's a townslip for a different reason.
Do tell.

In post 142, Creature wrote:
In post 127, crazycrabman wrote:That almost sounds like a
scum PM
you accidentally put in the forum.
Here's the townslip (bolded).

He thinks scum communicates between themselves through private messages (PM). If he were scum, he would notice scum actually uses private topics and most likely wouldn't say "scum PM"

Notice posts 44 and 56. It seems creature could either be baiting someone to do what crazy did or crazy could have been trying to be tricky there and tried to derp clear himself by way of using PM as a vehicle to do so.

Anyone have any thoughts on this interaction?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #206 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:04 am

In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.

In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post 197 sounded like you know I am town.

Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #212 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:21 am

In post 210, Dwlee99 wrote: pedit I think this is creature's town game.

I'm not so quick to agree with you here.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #221 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:28 am

In post 215, Creature wrote:
In post 206, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.

In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post 197 sounded like you know I am town.
Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.
Or crazycrabman could've noticed me mentioning "scum PM" and thought mafia communicate between themselves through "scum PM"

I'm not ruling that out. But it would be nice to know for sure.

@crazycrabman, have you played forum mafia elsewhere where scum communicate via PM?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #226 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:32 am

In post 222, Creature wrote:idk, maybe we can just lynch tojam2, LQ and DotW in that order.

I doubt anyone else is scum.

That is just not smart at all. Why are you lining up lynches? Why that order? Why are you so confident in your reads on like day 4?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #233 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:39 am

In post 227, Creature wrote:Nvm, I can't determine what tojam2 is trying to do.

And now you are backing away from the read. *pukes*

P-Edit: you clearly are not confident of your reads. The fact that you back out of your read on tom is evidence of this. And why exactly do I need to agree with your reads? You are not confirmed town (far from it) so to say that because I don't agree with your reads means I am scum is a complete wtf.

P-Edit: Dwlee, I have and been both right and wrong on them.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #237 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:45 am

In post 234, Creature wrote:Well, I am considering you a VI right now seeing DotW's obviously faked post 231.

You said he was Sus because of the L-1 vote correct? Explain how you got that he was VI based on 231.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #238 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:46 am

In post 236, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 221, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 215, Creature wrote:
In post 206, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.

In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post 197 sounded like you know I am town.
Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.
Or crazycrabman could've noticed me mentioning "scum PM" and thought mafia communicate between themselves through "scum PM"
I'm not ruling that out. But it would be nice to know for sure.

@crazycrabman, have you played forum mafia elsewhere where scum communicate via PM?
Good Morning!

Nope, I haven't even played forum mafia before this. I have played mafia in real life but the scum never communicate there.

Why did you assume scum communicate via PM?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #240 (isolation #36) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:48 am

In post 239, Creature wrote:
In post 237, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 234, Creature wrote:Well, I am considering you a VI right now seeing DotW's obviously faked post 231.
You said he was Sus because of the L-1 vote correct? Explain how you got that he was VI based on 231.
I am saying you're a VI.

I am not a VI, don't call me that again.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #246 (isolation #37) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:53 am

In post 243, crazycrabman wrote:Well now I assume otherwise. When I was writing the message, I saw it as there being no other alternative. They wouldn't communicate through a forum because I assumed all forums were public. As we got our roles through PM, I assumed that PM would be the means by which scum communicate.

Ok I legit think you slipped now. But why do you "assume otherwise" now?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #247 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:53 am

In post 245, crazycrabman wrote:What is a VI?

Village Idiot.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #281 (isolation #39) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:37 am

In post 278, Dwlee99 wrote:If we lynch tojam today we don't need to worry about lynching him before mylo/lylo (I'm not letting him live to then) or waste an investigation on a player who won't contribute much. Combined with the fact that this is almost certainly not tojam's town game it's a good lynch.
pedit zaicon is the mod..

This raises some red flags tbh. I don't think for a second ending day this early is a good idea.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #306 (isolation #40) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:26 am

In post 305, Dwlee99 wrote:we're waiting for sircakez and a few others to do something useful and then we're lynching tojam.

If the IC is newb scum and gets lynched day 1... lawl.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #309 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:35 am

In post 308, Dwlee99 wrote:307, that's how many posts tojam has. Tojam is still
a goon
as far as his title goes.

Yeah, and I am technically mafia scum, but I have spammed like a maniac in some games. Different levels of activity for players. Don't know what your point is. In fact, I'm going to count how many games I have on this site. I doubt its more than 10. I'm also going to try and figure out how many games tojam has played.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #314 (isolation #42) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:08 am

Just for the LOLs.

Here is my page. I have 42 posts in this game in 4 days. That is above my average, but tbh I was away from the site for a while, so in actuallity its prolly still below average (can't be arsed to figure out all the days I posted and compare that way). I have 13 games completed (by my count). I have 74 threads I have posted in.

This is tojams page. He has 4 posts in 4 days. That is above average for him (I think). His first post was in December. tojam has 8 games completed and has less than 2 ppd. iirc he never plays in more than 2 games at a time. I am just guessing here, but I think I see that he has like <20 places he has posted.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #316 (isolation #43) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:17 am

In post 315, Dwlee99 wrote:I was saying he isn't that experienced lol

TBH, I didn't like how you told creature to put his vote back on tojam in hindsight 20/20 based on knowing that tojam is both not the most experienced and doesn't usually post that much anyways.

Gives me much :///

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #318 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:00 am

In post 317, Dwlee99 wrote:it isn't his activity level. It is the tone of his posts. I've played with him before in college mafia and his posts there were so much different.

Why do you think tone is a valid argument based on a single game of experience with this player? You are basically saying the same thing as Cakes (and everyone else at this point).

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #320 (isolation #45) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:27 am

In post 319, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 318, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 317, Dwlee99 wrote:it isn't his activity level. It is the tone of his posts. I've played with him before in college mafia and his posts there were so much different.
Why do you think tone is a valid argument based on a single game of experience with this player? You are basically saying the same thing as Cakes (and everyone else at this point).
I mean tbh I often don't even need to have played a game with a person to read them off of tone, it just helps.
But tojam's posts here sound super forced and faked, it is kind of hard to explain but just the way he is posting isn't genuine. When I combine that with the fact that in the game I played with him where he was town he DID sound genuine, he is scum.

I have him as Null for the simple fact that the guy only has 5 posts in this whole game. To put this in perspective, that is like 1/17th of the highest poster. If you can get a clear read on someone based on 5 posts then you may just be one of those players who has an uncanny ability to read people based off tone. Or you could be scum. Or you could be just plain wrong on your read on them. fwiw I read your tone as good, but I have never played with you, so I can't rely on that too much. Creature on the other hand, has a shitty tone.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #323 (isolation #46) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:40 am

In post 321, Creature wrote:
In post 320, LicketyQuickety wrote:Creature on the other hand, has a shitty tone.
I have an obvtown tone and I don't understand how you don't think that.

No, you have a sneaky tone. I can honestly say if you are town you are a detriment to town. Here's some reasons why:

Your reaction tests:
Your first one was out of this world terrible, which is reason to suspect you on its own.
Reaction tests are suppose to be subtly, not blatantly ridiculous.

Your contradictions:
Saying you are confident in your read on tojam who had like 3(?) 4 posts at the time and then later saying "yeah, not really sure on tojam."

Your Wifom potential:
The way you are going about it does absolutely nothing to advance town, it just creates confusion. So Even if you are just doing reaction test after reaction test, it gets town nowhere because even if you are town and even if you have good reads, unless you actually stick to those reads, people never know if they should take your reads serious or not.

An updated reads list would be nice right about now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #327 (isolation #47) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:45 am

In post 322, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 320, LicketyQuickety wrote:you may just be one of those players who has an uncanny ability to read people based off tone.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65521
I am in a hydra with titus (Night Hunters)
Pretty much all of my reads were accurate that game iirc mostly based on tone reading.

Fair enough. I know who Titus is and have been in a hydra with her myself. She is on point a lot of the time. The fact that she has done a hydra with you doesn't mean much, honestly. She was in a hydra with me after she tore my scum game to pieces so her reasons for doing a hydra with people is not just because she respects your play.

I'm not going to read that game btw, I have enough shit going on.

P-Edit a bunch.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #328 (isolation #48) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:48 am

In post 325, Creature wrote:
LicketyQuickety

What page are you at?

It sounds like you're trying to pull a mislynch on me then say my reads mean nothing at all.

Well if you don't provide some reads there is no way to tell.

What page am I on? I don't understand what you mean. I'm on the current page.

As far as I see, you are not getting nearly enough pressure for your questionable actions.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #333 (isolation #49) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:02 pm

In post 332, eagerSnake wrote:I really can't agree with Creature being scum with tojam... who would the alternative scum team be?

fwiw, I find them being teamed unlikely. But tbh, they are both not exactly what I would call the pinnacle of good play. (not saying I am.)

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #345 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 335, atm487 wrote:VOTE: Tojam

In post 336, atm487 wrote:dammit

You need to give reads if you are not going to do anything else.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #357 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 350, atm487 wrote:/v Tojam

Are you being serious right now? I mean I not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed and even I was able to do a correct vote my first attempt.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #418 (isolation #52) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:20 pm

In post 412, atm487 wrote:well there are a lot of posts, ill look them over later, heres my list
Town {Dragon of the West}
Town Lean {Dwlee, Crab}
Null {Creature, eagerSnake, Sircakez}
Scum Lean {Tojam}
Scum {None}
Keep in mind these are just VIBES not anything else

Believe it or not, I am actually playing in this game. What is your read on me?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #431 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:37 pm

In post 423, eagerSnake wrote:Dwlee... why are you voting for tojam?

Good question. iirc they wanted creature to put their vote back on tojam. I don't see why Dwlee doesn't do this. I can only guess that they don't want to put tojam that close to lynch yet, but that doesn't really line up because iirc they wanted tojam lynched a while ago and basically said there was no reason to wait.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #438 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:44 pm

In post 433, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 431, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 423, eagerSnake wrote:Dwlee... why are you voting for tojam?
Good question. iirc they wanted creature to put their vote back on tojam. I don't see why Dwlee doesn't do this. I can only guess that they don't want to put tojam that close to lynch yet, but that doesn't really line up because iirc they wanted tojam lynched a while ago and basically said there was no reason to wait.
You're either misinterpreting something or you need to rephrase your post cause this makes no sense.

OK, I goofed. I thought what eagerSnake was saying is why isn't your vote on tojam, but now I don't know if your vote is or is not on tojam. If you vote is on tojam then that makes WAY more sense.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #440 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:50 pm

In post 439, Dwlee99 wrote:my vote is on tojam

OK. Good to know you are not playing as poorly as I originally thought. I have made some really stupid interpretations this game.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #506 (isolation #56) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:19 am

In post 465, eagerSnake wrote:Who was saying we Lynch tojam and the next day Lynch creature? It keeps coming to my mind and just oozes scum

In post 466, SirCakez wrote:LQ I think
Who is indeed probably scum

I'd like you to quote this please cuz I'm pretty sure this never happened.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #507 (isolation #57) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:59 am

Reads:

Town:
eagerSnake
crazycrabman

Town Lean:
Dwlee
atm487
Dragon of the West

Null:
tojam

Scum lean:
SirCakez

Scum:
Creature

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #509 (isolation #58) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:02 am

In post 508, eagerSnake wrote:Interesting. Why the town lean on DotW?

Because I read him a genuine. I don't think he makes up what he is saying.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #535 (isolation #59) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:22 pm

In post 529, crazycrabman wrote:I'd like to point out that LQ is not playing like his wiki says he does on town. It says "3. Convince people- Whether it be by an Occam's Razor deduction case or a sickening appeal to emotions, it doesn't matter as long as you get people to do what you want them to do." under tips for finding scum. I don't believe that LQ is trying to convince us that creature, his current vote, is a mafia member. Please quote something otherwise if you can, I may be wrong. "As Town I am a decent Scum hunter and a leader". While I don't know whether or not you are a good scum hunter yet, I do know that you aren't rallying us around your cause. You are the only person that has a vote on someone other that tojam.

I've stated several times why I think Creature is Scum. He has odd behavior, switches his reads (he has done this twice on me alone. First he said I was Scum then he said I was VI and now he is saying Scum again.) and has been one of the strongest people against the IC who we shouldn't really have that strong of a read on, granted I really think the IC should participate more because this 1-2 posts a day is pretty ridiculous for this game.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #537 (isolation #60) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:20 am

In post 536, Creature wrote:
In post 535, LicketyQuickety wrote:granted I really think the IC should participate more because this 1-2 posts a day is pretty ridiculous for this game.
I am debating whether or not I should take the pressure off the IC a while, but I would expect town under this pressure try something rather than stay inactive like this.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #559 (isolation #61) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:03 am

In post 558, Dwlee99 wrote:Regardless of associatives LQ is definitely next on my scum list.

OK, but why?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #566 (isolation #62) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:43 am

In post 561, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 559, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 558, Dwlee99 wrote:Regardless of associatives LQ is definitely next on my scum list.
OK, but why?
youre scummy m9

I'm always scummy. Try again.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #568 (isolation #63) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:48 am

In post 567, Creature wrote:
In post 566, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 561, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 559, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 558, Dwlee99 wrote:Regardless of associatives LQ is definitely next on my scum list.
OK, but why?
youre scummy m9
I'm always scummy. Try again.
You're scum.

Wrong. You're Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #571 (isolation #64) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:59 am

In post 569, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 9, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 8, Creature wrote:VOTE: atm487

I really want to lynch atm487 atm

*cough* you are trying to lynch someone who is not playing this game.

In post 367, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 361, Dragon of the West wrote:The more Dwlee posts, the more scummy he appears to me. I haven't since him look for scum as much as he's tried to push a vote through.
*cough*
Why are you two coughing?

This was explained.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #577 (isolation #65) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:10 am

In post 573, Dwlee99 wrote:Im EST time.
I will probably end up meta diving you, lickety.
I coughed because dotw's statement was inaccurate. Coincidentally I have been coughing a lot irl.
pedit Cant tell if youre being serious

knock yourself out. Its a bit dated, but do it all the same.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #593 (isolation #66) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:05 am

In post 592, crazycrabman wrote:Can we discuss after tojam is hammered or does it instantly lock the board?

Thread gets locked for 2 days. Only ones talking about the tojam lynch will be Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #603 (isolation #67) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:11 am

In post 596, tojam2 wrote:Sorry guys, the sandman beat me to my phone last night (with the help of 4 exams today).

Looking at the last 4 pages for content now

Congrats, you are catching up to your lynch.

Are we seriously doing this with a week left until EOD.

Doesn't look good for tojam showing up now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #609 (isolation #68) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:13 am

In post 605, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 603, LicketyQuickety wrote:Are we seriously doing this with a week left until EOD.
you should know better than this sentencd

What do you mean?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #611 (isolation #69) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:14 am

In post 607, crazycrabman wrote:Yep, it atm's was a hammer.

Yeah, I'm taking note of that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #612 (isolation #70) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:16 am

In post 610, Dwlee99 wrote:cakez why are you just showing up now
pedit this is twilight trolling as I refuse to believe tojam not only changed his tone, but his playstyle, content creation etc etc as town,
pedit2 Hammering with a week until deadline isnt exactly bad when the flip propels the game.

Meh.. its not like the game was stalled. My problem is that tojam and myself were the only ones taking any heat. I tried to get something going on creature for valid reasons mind you but I guess people didn't feel the need to look anywhere else.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #632 (isolation #71) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:43 am

In post 631, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 372, Sickofit1138 wrote:No! Why do you rush that vote!

Kappy I you thought I was town you would never hammer this early.

My suspicions are
Furebringer/Not_mafia/kappy/kTS/Almost50/dramonic

Great job quick hammering town d1 guys. Love y'all.

You better lynch KTS firebringer or kappy tomorrow.
^ flipped scum

We'll see, I guess.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #637 (isolation #72) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:28 am

I wouldn't put it past Creature to NK Cakez, but I am reconsidering my read on them for raisins.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #640 (isolation #73) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:34 am

In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:Interesting night...

I feel that there is only one person who has reason to fear SirCakez.

In post 466, SirCakez wrote:LQ I think
Who is indeed probably scum
While LQ could have killed creature or Dwlee, that would be much more risky.

Why would that be more risky?

In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 456, SirCakez wrote:Town - Creature, crazycrabman
Nulltown - Dwlee, atm487
Null - Dragon of the West, eagersnake (having trouble sorting these two)
Scumlean - LQ
Scum - Tojam
Who else would have a reason to kill Sircakez? This was his last predictions. Nobody had a reason to kill Sircakez except LQ. For this reason, and the reasons stated before~ VOTE: LQ

I would not be that obvious to make that NK. I would have killed eagerSnakes who had a Townread on me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #644 (isolation #74) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:44 am

In post 641, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 640, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:Interesting night...

I feel that there is only one person who has reason to fear SirCakez.

In post 466, SirCakez wrote:LQ I think
Who is indeed probably scum
While LQ could have killed creature or Dwlee, that would be much more risky.
Why would that be more risky?

In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 456, SirCakez wrote:Town - Creature, crazycrabman
Nulltown - Dwlee, atm487
Null - Dragon of the West, eagersnake (having trouble sorting these two)
Scumlean - LQ
Scum - Tojam
Who else would have a reason to kill Sircakez? This was his last predictions. Nobody had a reason to kill Sircakez except LQ. For this reason, and the reasons stated before~ VOTE: LQ
I would not be that obvious to make that NK. I would have killed eagerSnakes who had a Townread on me.
1- Creature and Dwlee were more open about their reasons against you. Sircakez wasn't as active and would be easier to shrug off.

2- Because you wanted to knock off some competition. If you killed eagersnakez you would be more outnumbered. You want to keep eagersnakez around to diversify the viewpoint in your favor. For all we know eagersnakez could be your partner in crime...

I was already taking heat at EOD by a lot of people. The NK makes me look even more suspicious. Why would I take that risk?

P-Edit: Actually Killing Cakez is the worst NK I could have done. DWlee would have made a way better NK because they were more active itt and didn't have as strong of a Scum read on me.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #645 (isolation #75) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:46 am

In post 642, crazycrabman wrote:Why would you want to purposefully make it harder on yourself by knocking off someone in favor of you?

Why would I be so obvious about killing someone who had a strong Scum read on me?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #648 (isolation #76) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:55 am

In post 646, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 640, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:Interesting night...

I feel that there is only one person who has reason to fear SirCakez.

In post 466, SirCakez wrote:LQ I think
Who is indeed probably scum
While LQ could have killed creature or Dwlee, that would be much more risky.
Why would that be more risky?

In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 456, SirCakez wrote:Town - Creature, crazycrabman
Nulltown - Dwlee, atm487
Null - Dragon of the West, eagersnake (having trouble sorting these two)
Scumlean - LQ
Scum - Tojam
Who else would have a reason to kill Sircakez? This was his last predictions. Nobody had a reason to kill Sircakez except LQ. For this reason, and the reasons stated before~ VOTE: LQ
I would not be that obvious to make that NK. I would have killed eagerSnakes who had a Townread on me.
When did I have a town read on you?

In post 647, eagerSnake wrote:Never

I thought you did have a Town read on me.

If it was anyone but crazy saying the NK was to make me look guilty, I would immediately vote them. Sadly I am prolly the lynch today based off a lynch made to frame me. Good job Scum you got another mislynch.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #650 (isolation #77) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:57 am

In post 649, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 644, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 641, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 640, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:Interesting night...

I feel that there is only one person who has reason to fear SirCakez.

In post 466, SirCakez wrote:LQ I think
Who is indeed probably scum
While LQ could have killed creature or Dwlee, that would be much more risky.
Why would that be more risky?

In post 638, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 456, SirCakez wrote:Town - Creature, crazycrabman
Nulltown - Dwlee, atm487
Null - Dragon of the West, eagersnake (having trouble sorting these two)
Scumlean - LQ
Scum - Tojam
Who else would have a reason to kill Sircakez? This was his last predictions. Nobody had a reason to kill Sircakez except LQ. For this reason, and the reasons stated before~ VOTE: LQ
I would not be that obvious to make that NK. I would have killed eagerSnakes who had a Townread on me.
1- Creature and Dwlee were more open about their reasons against you. Sircakez wasn't as active and would be easier to shrug off.

2- Because you wanted to knock off some competition. If you killed eagersnakez you would be more outnumbered. You want to keep eagersnakez around to diversify the viewpoint in your favor. For all we know eagersnakez could be your partner in crime...
I was already taking heat at EOD by a lot of people. The NK makes me look even more suspicious. Why would I take that risk?

P-Edit: Actually Killing Cakez is the worst NK I could have done. DWlee would have made a way better NK because they were more active itt and didn't have as strong of a Scum read on me.

1- NKing Sircakez has two benefits for you. Knocking off someone not in favor of you, and providing ammo to blame someone else.
2- Dwlee is more active. He's a bigger threat to yourself.

In post 564, Dwlee99 wrote:Town {Creature, Crab}
Town Lean {Sircakez, Eagersnake, atm, Dragon}
Null {} Maybe sircakez here?
Scum Lea {LicketyQuickety}
Scum {Tojam}
He had you as scum lean. The same as sircakez. Except being more active makes him a bigger threat, and too much of a risk. Sircakez was out of all of our minds, we all basically had him as null, which makes him an easier target.

Why are you buying that Scum wouldn't NK Cakez?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #652 (isolation #78) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:59 am

In post 651, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 462, eagerSnake wrote:I'm fairly confident in my town reads on SirCakez, atm487, and crazycrabman. I have some doubt of DotWs and Creatures alignment. And more doubt of tojam, dwlee9, and LQ.

TBH I'm almost sure tojam will be lynched so I'm trying to figure out who his partner is if he shows up scum, or who the scum team is should he show up town.
He is true, where did you get that he had you as a town read?

IDK.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #654 (isolation #79) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:01 am

In post 653, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 650, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why are you buying that Scum wouldn't NK Cakez?
Because Cakez was NKed, and you are scum.

I am not Scum tho, I am Town.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #655 (isolation #80) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:02 am

BTW I'm thinking Creature is Town now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #657 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:04 am

In post 656, crazycrabman wrote:Why? Why should we believe that? With that said, I gtg. I'll be back in half an hour plus to answer your rebuttal.

IDK why you should believe it. It was a good NK by Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #672 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 670, atm487 wrote:well i just trust dwlee, i can disagree with him, its just i will consider his opinion first because he is a vet

Vets can be Scum too.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #675 (isolation #83) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 674, eagerSnake wrote:Why would dwlee9 want to dismiss information that helps town and could lead to the discovery of a mafia member?

A NK analysis is just as useful to town as lynch analysis.

Why would any townsperson want to dismiss ANY information, especially a NK?

With the limited info that townspeople have, Town-aligned people would not want to dismiss any information.

VOTE: Dwlee9

IDK at this point if Dwlee is Scum or not, but these are bad reasons.

Like I said a long time ago, Dwlee has a good tone, but they have been very poor in substantiating their reads with evidence. That's why I don't think the vote here is terrible.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #680 (isolation #84) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:32 pm

Dwlee is a little too cavalier for my liking. I think NKA CAN be done, but prolly no one in this game can do it properly, I know I sure as hell can't.

Dwlee hasn't seen any pressure really this whole game, which is why I think they are acting cavalier. He is just kinda going with the flow a little too much for my taste.

VOTE: Dwlee

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #683 (isolation #85) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:47 pm

In post 681, Dwlee99 wrote:I was actually trying to restrain the urge to just respond with "lol" and actually post ic-like information about nka and its shortcomings.
On your point against me for acting cavalier (hey I learned a new word!), you would probably say I was scum if I had a reaction as well, so I don't see that as a valid argument. To rephrase, if I was defensive you would say I was scum for it, but at the same time you are pushing me for doing the opposite. Not logical.

I don't think defensiveness is always a Scum thing to do. You are assuming what my stance is on defensiveness which you are wrong about. You played a hand in tojams lynch and especially how early the lynch came. We had little reason to end day that early looking back on it in hindsight, which I tried to get across at the time. People didn't listen to me (not a rare occurrence actually), but I was actually right that ending day that early was the wrong play. Pretty much all Scum hunting stopped once it was decided that we were going to end day a week short.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #685 (isolation #86) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:49 pm

In post 684, Dwlee99 wrote:How people react to pressure isn't alignment indicative when you see it from just the perspective of defensive / cavalier.
Okay I wanted to lynch my top scum read who was being scummy deadweight after I saw a distinct difference in his play between college mafia and this game? A lot of people played a part in tojam's lynch, it's about who's push was fake and who's push was them actually scum reading tojam that matters. I have already explained why waiting to lynch there did not make any sense, we decided upon a person we were near certain was scum, who claimed vt, and was being useless. Waiting to hammer just stalls the game. No the scum hunting did not stop, you're wrong.

I can go back a quote it if you want, but you were the strongest person for ending day that early. If Scum hunting was still happening, then there is no reason to end day early. Consider that tojam flipped Town, that says that there was almost certainly Scum on his lynch. I have a high suspicion of you because you have not backed up your reads with much evidence and, lets face it, you kinda piggybacked on the tojam lynch after Cakez made the initial pressure on them.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #687 (isolation #87) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:07 pm

In post 686, Dwlee99 wrote:By piggybacking you mean
exactly
what you are doing right now? Although yours falls more on the side of bandwagoning but meh.

I am pretty sure I am NOT doing that because I am giving legitimate reasons for my Scum read on you. As far as I can tell I am really the only one putting pressure on you and I think you are feeling a bit hot under the collar right now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #733 (isolation #88) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:23 am

In post 721, eagerSnake wrote:I didn't say impossible to get anything and you already know that.

I said
difficult or impossible
to determine the
exact reason.
As Town we usually never know exact anything... so does that mean we should throw everything out that we can't be 100% sure of? In that case we're throwing out
everything.
Again, only scum would want us to think that way.

You know I really hate it when people say ONLY Scum or ONLY Town.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #746 (isolation #89) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:11 am

I somewhat have a problem with atm487 atm.. errr, yeah. They haven't voted anyone yet. I also have a problem with Creature making associatives reads that he fails to explain.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #748 (isolation #90) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:36 am

In post 747, atm487 wrote:alright, well the reason i am waiting to vote is because i want to hear the arguement for why I should vote Dwlee, LQ, or eager

From who?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #749 (isolation #91) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:46 am

Reads List:

Town:
crazycrabman
Creature

Town Lean:
eagerSnakes

Null:
atm487
DotW

Scum Lean:
Dwlee

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #751 (isolation #92) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:58 am

In post 750, Creature wrote:No read on atm487?

Nope. Can't tell if they are clueless or just being sneaky.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #753 (isolation #93) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:47 pm

In post 752, atm487 wrote:from anyone who is voting whoever they think is scum

that's not what this game is about... at all. you have to make your own read/reasons/votes/pushes/defenses. I don't like the way you are playing at all. I can't tell if you really have no idea, or if you are just using the fact that people think this about you to your advantage.

You can start by providing a reads list.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #757 (isolation #94) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:17 pm

In post 754, crazycrabman wrote:I am convinced Dwlee is not scum. He is not acting in the way a scum would act. Scum wouldn't push so hard on another person, in this instance tojam.
I believe dwlee honestly believed tojam was scum.
Virtually everyone did except for LQ, who would know who is town and who's not.

I'm not convinced Dwlee is not Scum. You need to say how Scum!Dwlee would act differently, not just say you don't think they are not acting like Scum. And stop saying "Scum wouldn't do X". There are very few absolutes in this game.

I don't agree that because I had an inactive IC as Null means I knew they were Town. There were almost certainly Scum on tojams wagon. A wagon like that doesn't get formed without Scum influencing it.

In bold: you can believe that, but you will have to back that up.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #759 (isolation #95) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 756, atm487 wrote:alright i think i have deicided, LQ is right and i've looked over the facts. I honestly dont agree with you guys when you say dwlee is scum, and creature voted for me with a poor explanation, along with singling people out and disregarding others in the game as town for no reason VOTE: Creature

Creature is a bad vote. Its great that you agree with me, but you vote is bad. I have Creature as Town right now, so you can't say I am right and then say I am wrong about my reads. What am I right about? Why is my read on Creature wrong?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #760 (isolation #96) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 758, crazycrabman wrote:I'm going to rolecall now. This is probably a bad decision but this is a newbie game and i'm still learning what to do and when. This will also get me NKed this night but for the good of the town I have to do it. I am the town cop and investigated LQ this night. He is guilty and scum. I can barely believe it myself, and LQ would be at the bottom of my list for possible scum, but it is true: LQ is scum. I expect I would get NKed this night anyways, so I have nothing to lose.

I believe you are Town and that this is a gambit. I won't say why.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #762 (isolation #97) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:24 pm

In post 761, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 760, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 758, crazycrabman wrote:I'm going to rolecall now. This is probably a bad decision but this is a newbie game and i'm still learning what to do and when. This will also get me NKed this night but for the good of the town I have to do it. I am the town cop and investigated LQ this night. He is guilty and scum. I can barely believe it myself, and LQ would be at the bottom of my list for possible scum, but it is true: LQ is scum. I expect I would get NKed this night anyways, so I have nothing to lose.
I believe you are Town and that this is a gambit. I won't say why.
Enlighten us

I'm going to have to wait to tell you sorry. Have to see how people will react to your claim.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #764 (isolation #98) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 763, crazycrabman wrote:That's agreeable I guess. Just between you and me, your scum game is amazing, if I wasn't town cop I would never be without a doubt that you aren't scum.

I have to laugh at this. My Scum game is some of the worst shit you will see from me. I can prove it too, with links. More than a few times I have been voted off day 1 as mafia.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #766 (isolation #99) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:36 pm

In post 765, crazycrabman wrote:Well you either hit on a perfect strategy or the mod is messing with me, i'll go with the former.

Links coming up.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #769 (isolation #100) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:46 pm

these are ALL the Scum games I have played on this site. I have been lynched either Day 1 or Day 2 in all of them.

Lynched Day 1

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=63765

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62055

Lynched day 2

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62084

Shall I go off site as well?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #780 (isolation #101) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:03 pm

In post 779, Creature wrote:Oh right, I think LQ is tempted to self-hammer.

UNVOTE: LicketyQuickety

LOL

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #783 (isolation #102) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:06 pm

In post 781, Creature wrote:
In post 749, LicketyQuickety wrote:Reads List:

Town:
crazycrabman
Creature

Town Lean:
eagerSnakes

Null:
atm487
DotW

Scum Lean:
Dwlee
I think LQ put his scumbuddy in the null spot to avoid associations.

Or, ya' know I just have them as Null as Town.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #789 (isolation #103) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:11 pm

In post 787, Creature wrote:
In post 783, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 781, Creature wrote:
In post 749, LicketyQuickety wrote:Reads List:

Town:
crazycrabman
Creature

Town Lean:
eagerSnakes

Null:
atm487
DotW

Scum Lean:
Dwlee
I think LQ put his scumbuddy in the null spot to avoid associations.
Or, ya' know I just have them as Null as Town.
The problem is that CCM hasn't backed away his guilty on you.

Uhg. didn't want to do this until everyone left alive has posted.

I'm the Cop. I investigated Creature last night.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #795 (isolation #104) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:15 pm

In post 791, Creature wrote:
LicketyQuickety

Result?

In post 792, eagerSnake wrote:And what was your result LQ?

Creature is Town.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #800 (isolation #105) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:20 pm

In post 797, Creature wrote:Well, I noticed your change on me, the problem is that I also noticed CCM's chance on you.

Hence the gambit.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #804 (isolation #106) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:28 pm

In post 803, eagerSnake wrote:So with two claimed cops what do we do now

I still think crazy is pulling a gambit. If he says otherwise, at this point you have to lynch one of us.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #810 (isolation #107) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:30 pm

In post 806, crazycrabman wrote:You have to choose one of us. If you are town, then throw the game and vote with LQ. If you wish to have a 4v1 chance, vote with me.

Fair enough. I know I'm the Cop so:

VOTE: crazycrabman

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #813 (isolation #108) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 809, Creature wrote:Okay then, first, I would like to know if any of you breadcrumbed cop D1.

I have only bred crumbed in one game. I didn't do it this game.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #815 (isolation #109) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:33 pm

In post 814, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 810, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 806, crazycrabman wrote:You have to choose one of us. If you are town, then throw the game and vote with LQ. If you wish to have a 4v1 chance, vote with me.
Fair enough. I know I'm the Cop so:

VOTE: crazycrabman
You just said it was a gambit, and I'm town. Why would you want to lynch a town member?

Well, if its not a gambit, you have to be Scum. Simple as that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #827 (isolation #110) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:58 pm

In post 824, atm487 wrote:
In post 823, Creature wrote:
In post 420, crazycrabman wrote:I am very open to change but currently:
town {Dwlee}
townlean {DotW, Creature}
null {eagersnake, Sircakez, LQ}
scumlean {
atm
}
scum {tojam}

This could all change in a heartbeat if Tojam is found to be town. If that happens:

town {}
townlean {}
null {eagersnake, Sircakez, DotW}
scumlean {Creature, LQ}
scum {Dwlee}

In post 422, crazycrabman wrote:Put LQ in the townlean on the second one

In post 523, crazycrabman wrote:Ok, so here's my spiel before the night.

If Tojam Is Scum

Town: {Creature, Dwlee}
Townlean: {Sircakez}
Null: {LQ,
Atm
}
Scumlean: {eagersnakes, Dotw}
Scum: {}

If Tojam is Town

Town:{}
Townlean:{Creature, Dwlee, DotW}
Null:{Sircakez, LQ,
Atm
}
Scumlean:{eagersnakes}
Scum:{}

This is all going off vibes because vibes are all we got, besides the nightkill. I include in the "vibes" category things like post content, length, frequency, and wording. Vibes and the nightkill, when used together, are all we need to find the scum, if we feel deep enough. I'll work on a post about possible teams after the night, if we are indeed lynching tojam withing the next few days.
for crazy's where am i for both

ATM. That's you.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #829 (isolation #111) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:04 pm

In post 825, crazycrabman wrote:I investigated LQ for a few reasons. I suspected that he would turn out as town and with that confirmed, I could focus my efforts on others. LQ could be teamed with many other people and me finding out he is not scum would eliminate man of those possible team. I honestly did not expect LQ to turn out scum, and now that he has, I am focusing all my efforts on him. This is why I started criticizing him right after the night.

FWIW I thought you were pulling a gambit because you were "confirmed" Town. Turns out I was right about This:

In post 195, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.

In post 56, Creature wrote:But he checked his PM, so it's possible he wanted to disappear because of that.

In post 127, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 123, Creature wrote:Let's help crazycrabman make a case on someone.
?
That almost sounds like a scum PM you accidentally put in the forum.

In post 128, Creature wrote:It isn't, but congratulations anyway.

UNVOTE: crazycrabman

In post 129, crazycrabman wrote:I don't get a word you are saying. Why are you congratulating me? What was the meaning of post 123?

In post 130, Creature wrote:Your post 127 has a townslip, can you say that?

In post 131, crazycrabman wrote:I have no idea what a townslip is but I'm guessing post 123 was a reaction test and I passed it. I'm new at this as you can probably see.

In post 132, Creature wrote:123 isn't a reaction test, it's supposed to be interpretated as "crazy is trying to make a case"

In post 133, crazycrabman wrote:Ohhhh, I see now, sorry.

In post 134, Creature wrote:I'll wait to see if others noticed your townslip before explaining.

In post 137, LicketyQuickety wrote:Scum have Night Chat.

In post 138, Creature wrote:It's a townslip for a different reason.

In post 141, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 138, Creature wrote:It's a townslip for a different reason.
Do tell.

In post 142, Creature wrote:
In post 127, crazycrabman wrote:That almost sounds like a
scum PM
you accidentally put in the forum.
Here's the townslip (bolded).

He thinks scum communicates between themselves through private messages (PM). If he were scum, he would notice scum actually uses private topics and most likely wouldn't say "scum PM"
Notice posts 44 and 56. It seems creature could either be baiting someone to do what crazy did or crazy could have been trying to be tricky there and tried to derp clear himself by way of using PM as a vehicle to do so.

Anyone have any thoughts on this interaction?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #832 (isolation #112) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:07 pm

In post 831, eagerSnake wrote:We must ask ourselves would ccm out himself like that as scum when he is "confirmed" town

he's prolly banking on just that; that he is "confirmed".

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #836 (isolation #113) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:19 pm

In post 834, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 832, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 831, eagerSnake wrote:We must ask ourselves would ccm out himself like that as scum when he is "confirmed" town
he's prolly banking on just that; that he is "confirmed".
I don't think "confirmed town" scum!ccm would draw the attention to himself like that when he doesn't need to.

yeah, its not the best play even if he was town. Its just bad all around.

In post 835, crazycrabman wrote:So LQ, do you believe I'm scum or a town doing a gambit?

You are Scum. You're past the point of a gambit at this point.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #839 (isolation #114) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:26 pm

In post 838, crazycrabman wrote:Yes it was bad for you.

I admire your dedication to this, but you are Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #841 (isolation #115) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:34 pm

In post 840, crazycrabman wrote:
In post 839, LicketyQuickety wrote:I admire your dedication to this, but you are Scum.
I admire your dedication to this, but
you
are Scum.

LOL. I guess we will find out how this goes when more people have more to say about it. But, yeah, you made a bad play.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #842 (isolation #116) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:38 pm

This should be obvious, but if there is a Doctor in the game, do not claim.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #871 (isolation #117) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:01 pm

You guys are not thinking. There is no reason for Town!crazy to come out as Cop here. Look at the time he did this. He didn't do it strait off the bat and did it shortly after he made his case on me, which was debunked by Dwlee.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #874 (isolation #118) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:08 pm

In post 873, Dwlee99 wrote:His case was bad because he would have to come up with reasons to get you lynched if he didn't want to come out as cop. His play makes a ton of sense imo.

No it doesn't he came out as Cop withing 24 hours of Day 2.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #878 (isolation #119) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:16 pm

In post 877, Dwlee99 wrote:Not to mention your cop posturing really bothered me

Thanks for that.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #880 (isolation #120) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:21 pm

In post 879, Dwlee99 wrote:Uhh you're welcome?

This is going to be unbelievable after I flip. You don't see that do you?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #883 (isolation #121) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:27 pm

In post 882, Dwlee99 wrote:Still not sure why you're reaching out to me and saying things like "this is going to be unbelievable when I flip town" when I am your biggest scum read? (Not counting crazy obvi)

LOL. Its just going to be funny after my flip. Ofc your my strongest Scum read after crazy, silly.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #945 (isolation #122) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:27 am

[/v]LicketyQuickety[/v]

What's the point.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #946 (isolation #123) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:27 am

In post 945, LicketyQuickety wrote:[/v]LicketyQuickety[/v]

What's the point.

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #954 (isolation #124) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:50 am

I'll be here after the game to ask for advice.

Thanks.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #996 (isolation #125) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:49 pm

Looking for advice on my game here. I know crazy said I had good scum game, but I was still suspected by a lot of people. This game could have gone much better if I used Occam's Razer as the NK choice and killed the confirmed Town. Biggest mistake of the game for me IMO.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #999 (isolation #126) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:46 pm

In post 997, SirCakez wrote:I think your associations with Tojam and push on Creature made you look scummy, LQ.
Why don't Tojam and I win Zaicon ;-;

Anyway gg everyone! Good job town pulling it together day 2.

In post 998, Zaicon wrote:I don't know what you're talking about >.>

Zaicon just listed the survivors of the game, you still won.

LicketyQuickety · Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:57 pm

In post 997, SirCakez wrote:I think your associations with Tojam and push on Creature made you look scummy, LQ.
Why don't Tojam and I win Zaicon ;-;

Anyway gg everyone! Good job town pulling it together day 2.

In post 1000, eagerSnake wrote:I was suspicious of LQ because associations with tojam aswell. Nothing redeemed you from that. The way you were acting about the tojam lynch didn't sync with anyone else which was scummy. Also PoE you didn't make yourself look town enough for me so other players had higher chances of being town putting you on the top of the list.

Telling me what I did wrong is all fine and well, but what should I have done instead?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:09 am

In post 1010, SirCakez wrote:Oh yeah
Tojam you need to put a LOT more effort into ICing. The fact the SEs had to basically take over your position is really not good.

This is why I don't IC even though I am prolly completely qualified. I just don't trust myself as a leader in the game. Another reason I don't IC is because I think that players who are well above average should be ICing and not someone like me who is not really very good.