Newbie 1734 - Happy (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

I think we got all we could.
UNVOTE: Infinity

[Gamma Emerald]

If the game was dead that means a) scum were happy with previous game state or b) scum were inactive.

a) points to infi
B) points to you
Sick

Good point, except HE wasn't in then, Kyndy was.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I know why I thought there was a distancing/buddying dynamic. Rask thinks like Infinity, and Infinity finds this suspicious. Solved.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gally: Have you fake townslipped before as scum (werewolf)?

Please don't ask loaded questions.

[Gamma Emerald]

He can't answer yes because that's incriminating.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Grendel: I wasn't really using activity patterns as evidence, I was just asking questions. Thanks for pointing that out though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah...we should have lynched Infinity by now.

Still pushing huh? How far are YOU now?

[Gamma Emerald]

All in all, I think trying to nail one scum D1 is enough. Trying to nail the whole damn team just lends itself to a lot of misreads, mistakes, paranoia and unproductive pandering. Rome wasn't built in a day, etc. etc.

@gally: Doesn't this imply you assumed there were 2 scum?

Not really? "Whole damn team" doesn't mean two as far as I know. Could be three, four -- shit, could be a whole 52-man NFL roster!

REALLY? There's not even 52 players, let alone 52 Mafia.

[Gamma Emerald]

Grendel bringing it, hot damn!

I think he and his fantastically detailed notes are exactly what we need as a town as a refresher course. Because we're at somewhat of an impasse, and these'll help get everybody on the sane page again. For the most part. Good stuff!

^^^
I think the best part about replacements (assumingthey're town) is that they don't have nearly as many biases/influences

Says the person who replaced in to play with a certain person.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm thinking about voting for BBT, but I don't know if he's caught up.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm set now. BBT is just too pushy on Infinity to seem town.
VOTE: BBT

[Gamma Emerald]

@403: Remember how I lashed out at Warden?
@479: He explained his aggressive entrance, so I didn't read him as scum as much.
This is to Grendel.

[Gamma Emerald]

About those fluff posts, I was trying to be the best UnfoundedRevenge I could be.

[Gamma Emerald]

I promise.

[Gamma Emerald]

I would suggest you spell out hypothesis from now on.

[Gamma Emerald]

Um...I've never seen Grendel as scum. However, he is a big time number cruncher, at least in the game we played together(though not really because I replaced in after he died). He actually gave me the idea to ask those two question I did earlier. So basically, this lines up with his past town play.

[Gamma Emerald]

Um...I've never seen Grendel as scum. However, he is a big time number cruncher, at least in the game we played together(though not really because I replaced in after he died). He actually gave me the idea to ask those two question I did earlier. So basically, this lines up with his past town play.

Fucking fantastic //sarcasm
Now i /really/ have scumreading issues

That wasn't sarcastic. I've only seen Grendel as town and independent on SM.Net games. I may check here if you need me to.

[Gamma Emerald]

But that's whether you decide to lynch someone or not.
You're putting him at the top of your readlist because of the claim? Did all your problems with him before just disappear?

Explain BBT and infinity read more.

To be fair as well, Zyf has been all about pushing things along this whole game, but not in the willy-nilly early-D1-Gamma kind of way, but in a different way.

I honestly don't know why I'm defending him at this point, I'm still completely null on him more or less. The fact our styles of play snd postings are so similar it kind of freaks me out but in a good way? So I guess I'm leaning subconciously town but my brains screaming to not be biased by my gut. Because my guts often lead me awry.

Hopefully this made some semblance of sense. Running on like 4 hours of sleep from last night and I'm just fumes at this point.

If you changed all the zyfs to gally and vice versa this statement would pretty well summarize my read on gally
Except that it kinda freaks me out in a bad way

Hmm.
What if Gally and Zyf are Mafia and are trying to avoid suspicion that could arise from one dying by staying completely neutral on each other? Really pulling this one out of my ass though.

[Gamma Emerald]

...
Couldn't we have waited for Grendel?

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: BBT
Too fast 4 me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I do maintain a theoretical vote on BBT.

[Gamma Emerald]

I do maintain a theoretical vote on BBT.

That's not gonna work.

I'm stating intent to hammer while not at l-1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking over the players, I think I can revote safely. Pulling out the blue again, this time for actually important shit.

This vote is putting BBT at L-1. If anyone hammers before Grendel indicates he is fully caught up, it shall be considered grounds for immediate suspicion.

VOTE: BBT

[Gamma Emerald]

I do maintain a theoretical vote on BBT.

My man!

If it didn't work for you it's not gonna work for them. Please don't convince them they should continue that
I mean, unless you want that "longest cancer D1" record in which case by all means go ahead

Totally agree. That was meant to be tongue in cheek. Gamma, put your vote back on brosef.

Ninja'd by four minutes DAMN.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking over the players, I think I can revote safely. Pulling out the blue again, this time for actually important shit.

This vote is putting BBT at L-1. If anyone hammers before Grendel indicates he is fully caught up, it shall be considered grounds for immediate suspicion.

VOTE: BBT

And you shall also be cursed with teh blue balls forevernore.

Blue...balls?

[Gamma Emerald]

It's Infinity, Zyf, Rask, and me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Good night.

[Gamma Emerald]

SKOLD I TOLD YOU TO WAIT FOR GRENDEL!

[Gamma Emerald]

I did. He posted. Nothing of worth was going to be said. Chill brahv.

Not recently. We don't want flips messing up his reads.

[Gamma Emerald]

If anyone is spectating this game they now have BRAIN CANCER

Huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

If anyone is spectating this game they now have BRAIN CANCER

I was going to ask Rask to explain this but HE'S DEAD. Anyone else know what the hell this is about?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. I'm gonna make a new reads list sometime in the day.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
I am scum reading him a bit rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry, but this all seems awfully rehearsed.

Well, I reread Day 1, and I now think Zyf is town. I'll make a new reads list soon, so if you want to know how, I can explain then.

[Gamma Emerald]

Here's my reads rn.
GallyNukes: Gut scum
LUV: Gut scum
Infinity: Null scum for what I think may be buddying and a no effort VT claim.
Grendel: Null because not caught up.
Skold: Null town because although the lolhammer was bad, I did warn him, meaning he obviously didn't care.
Zyf: Town because after Rask flipped town, his suspicious comment is NAI. I also think his misquoting was just because Day 1 was HUGE.

[Gamma Emerald]

Zyf, Gally, got any reads you want to share?

[Gamma Emerald]

Positivity bias?
Lemme guess, positivity seems pro town, but it's not?

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think you're scum though Skold, I just said your play is scummy. There's a difference and that's the main reason my vote is elsewhere.

Same here.
PEdit: @Gally not this game day. Things can change. Mine sure did. I went from ambivalent to town on Zyf thanks to a much needed ISO.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also: The first day of my first game ever(not my first day, THE first day) would have been 60 pages here. A lot of that, as Grendel can corroborate, unless I forgot something, was hypo cop talk, Miller talk, and messenger talk. I don't really think we should policy Zyf for expanding the board by 20 or so pages.

[Gamma Emerald]

Positivity bias?
Lemme guess, positivity seems pro town, but it's not?

Okay you and Gallynukes have to be faking it now right? Nobody is that ignorant.
Positivity bias is when in looking for evidence to support a theory you only include evidence that supports your theory.

Sorry, I thought my gut reason for suspecting LUV and Gally had a name. Also, I wouldn't really fault you for positivity bias because D1 being 55 pages.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Grendel: yeah, that was chainsaw, I was defending PKFP.

[Gamma Emerald]

I reread 55 pages to reassess my read on Zyf, now I think he's town. No one seems to have realized this #screamingintospace
It seems everyone agrees Infinity is probably scum. I've said it, LUV implied it, I think Zyf said it, Grendel said it, I think Gally said it. So @Skold do you think Infinity is scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Skold is already on LUV.

[Gamma Emerald]

About point 6, Infinity's VT claim was no effort with no emotion.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well since it's stupid to start a wagon and not be on it:
VOTE: Infinity

This is L-1 here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I personally think that Infinity is the scummiest out of the two, but I don't think lynching would be a good idea if the lynched wasn't here to defend themselves.

Not to mention we aren't even 24 hours into the day.

I saw Infinity in the active people in the index, he should have said something, but apparently not.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just saying he should have said something when he was here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, got it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Meh, odds are zyf is going nowhere no matter what I do. Promise if I die to look a lot more closely at him and second guess him in my stead though, I don't/can't really follow the ongoing logic but I really don't see how something outside of here would go that far confirming him today.

I'm looking at the votes.

@Grendel yeah given the quoted post, I totally agree.

[Gamma Emerald]

But hey, we all seem to agree on Infinity so VOTE: Infinity

This is bad.
So very very bad
as if they're just trying to get away

Everybody not unvoting Infinity after this post by Uzi is scum in my book.

Vote Uzi. All day.

What on earth? I legit didn't think it was that bad. Did you just hammer?

[Gamma Emerald]

Earth to Gally: with seven people, four is the majority. You were number four. Got anything to say for yourself?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I did some rereading, and I think Grendel is Mafia. Explanation will come later.
VOTE: Grendel

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm the cop. I investigated Zyf Night one as I promised to Rask, and he is town. I investigated Grendel Night 2 in hopes of gaining an ally, and he is Mafia.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, gonna be posting light for ~2 hours.

[Gamma Emerald]

Seriously zyf?

I'm gonna do some ISO's and see if that makes sense, but I may not have time for a while. In the meantime skold and grendel should claim.

Gonna state this for the record: I constantly said Zyf is town as a crumb/attempt to play without claiming.
PEdit: thank you Zyf for the quotes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Holy Crap, I'm a town tracker!

Can BP, or Doc plz claim so we can lynch Scum!Gamma?!

Him bread crumbing doesn't mean crap b/c I made bread crumbing sound like a super town thing to do in the last game I played with him. Of course he is gonna bread crumb regardless of Alignment for town cred.

You did that???
Also, any results?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, Doctor is with Tracker and Cop lines.

[Gamma Emerald]

Let's hope Grendel is Roleblocker. That way I know I get a result out tomorrow.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gonna be gone for a bit due to poor reception.

[Gamma Emerald]

I meant poor connectivity on my phone. You guys are fine.

[Gamma Emerald]

Back from breakfast.

[Gamma Emerald]

Really fucking sorry guys. I had a guest at my computer (My grandpa) who decided he'd clean up my computer internet history as a cool bro move. Also happened to remove all my passwords which took a while and a couple phone calls to sort out.
I'm doc/bp. I'm just going to read over the matrix6 to see if specifying actually changes anything here but just gut reads I feel more confident in Gamma's claim. Grendle's seems forced.

Although it is better executed then the last time I saw this, I've seen this before. A player by the name of Robby tried to pull this before, albeit much less organized. I don't trust you for a second Skold. Let's lynch Grendel for now because I have a guilty on him.

[Gamma Emerald]

The doc/BP thing is what I was talking about, FYI.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have extra proof Grendel is Mafia. He didn't really expand his scum reads, implicating himself as he knows everyone is town. Infinity, Grendel is Mafia. Sheep me.

[Gamma Emerald]

He excluded himself from his townreads, and also didn't form teams that much D2. I've seen that having too many ownreads or having the wrong ones is a scumtell.

[Gamma Emerald]

He's just saying that's not indicative of anything, not that he doubts himself.
Also, your confscum now Skold.

[Gamma Emerald]

*you're

[Gamma Emerald]

Infinity it's simple. Hammer Grendel, a mafia dies. Hammer me, we lose.

[Gamma Emerald]

Of course there's more to it, there's one more Mafia to find. Of course, we now know the other Mafia is Skold.

[Gamma Emerald]

FMPOV, the game is solved.

[Gamma Emerald]

Zyf wanted to kill me that's for sure.

[Gamma Emerald]

I reread 55 pages to reassess my read on Zyf, now I think he's town. No one seems to have realized this #screamingintospace
It seems everyone agrees Infinity is probably scum. I've said it, LUV implied it, I think Zyf said it, Grendel said it, I think Gally said it. So @Skold do you think Infinity is scum?

If I'm going to take a risk on nk whine I'd say that Zyf is town as well.

I didn't really like that he self meta'd, but I really don't see him killing Rask. In fact I would think that scum would be pushing on Zyf today or tomorrow after that "incriminating" nk. Or at least it'd be on their agenda to push him if they see an opportunity.

I'd also like to retract what I said about Rask's death pointing to a Town!Zyf. At the time I thought that Rask was scum reading Zyf, when I had missed Rask's last post where he said he no longer scum read Zyf. Therefore it makes Zyf jumping out of the wood work to point out why he wouldn't kill Rask when having no prompt to do so look really sketchy. I didn't get a chance to say it yesterday because Gally lol hammered, and I couldn't get the thought out before twilight ended.

And then Zyf did the same thing today with Gally's death btw.

The unwarranted self meta looks worse and worse every time I read it.

Also the crumbs dropped by Gamma could have been done as precaution for lylo, and as a means to justify why Gamma and Zyf dropped all suspicions of each other yesterday and today.

Evidence of Zyf saying such things about Gally?

[Gamma Emerald]

Zyf wanted to kill me that's for sure.

He pushed you with reasons that wouldn't get you lynched.

Doesn't matter how aggressive one is if what they are saying if their case is just hot air.

I was panicking and ready to claim if a wagon formed. Here's what I probably would have done.

Whatever
*Vote: Gamma Emerald*
Congratulations, you just pissed off your investigative role.

[Gamma Emerald]

He didn't say he didn't have the gut to kill his town read, ghee said he learned it's a bad idea.

[Gamma Emerald]

But hey, we all seem to agree on Infinity so VOTE: Infinity

This is bad.
So very very bad
as if they're just trying to get away

Everybody not unvoting Infinity after this post by Uzi is scum in my book.

Vote Uzi. All day.

This would mean that Gally was scum reading Gamma for his Infinity vote yeah?

Predit

Except there was no need on Zyf's part to make that claim. Nobody even mentioned, "Gee Rask died, I wonder if Zyf did it," he did it out of the blue for no reason. Reads like paranoid scum.

Same thing happened with Skold. I thought he was scum preparing for LyLo or something like that, but he's just scum with a really strong distaste for scum reads.

[Gamma Emerald]

pre edit directed at Gamma

No one else is here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Really like grendel's catchup.

Right? Like I don't even care if he ends up being scum, if he's willing to put

that

much effort into in-depth note reads for the town, like... I wouldn't even care about losing. Shit's impressive.

The question is, does Grendel do this often?

And Grendel, non-game related question: You TOTALLY have an actual notebook with players' various town/scum playing habits and tendencies, don't you? Not that that's a bad thing, I think its one of the best things about playing in a consistent community -- looking at things on a deeper level than the game itself but still entwined with the game. Based on shared history. It's like a soft-meta.

Anyway, sorry. Big fan of the notes. Looking forward to your all-caught-up thoughts.

Everyone else: Don't put

any

stock in

any

of my Grendel reads henceforth. I don't think I could lean scum on him even with a gun to my head. I'm going to stop talking now and go make another drink. So this concludes my marking out over Grendel's notes.

interesting stuff
gally never mentions skold later on though


I honestly don't see gamma killing gally.
Like if i were scum!gamma I'd try to bring me/gally into lylo, we trusted him the most and the best part of it is that gally didn't know whether I or Gamma was scummier to them which means he could hope I get set up.

I really don't see how this post implicates me at all?

You CCed me, so anything that clears me implicates you.

[Gamma Emerald]

the game's over regardless of grendel's flip
i'm tired of thinking and getting paranoid as fuck that I'm getting played.
inf pls

We still have one more Mafia to catch.

[Gamma Emerald]

I agree that this small game has influenced my playstyle. Also, knowing what I know about day talk, I probably would have been very cautious Day 1 if I was scum, due to not having a place to test posts.
PEdit: @Infinity Grendel even said that in his catchup.

[Gamma Emerald]

Zyf that red text makes me smile.

[Gamma Emerald]

But hey, we all seem to agree on Infinity so VOTE: Infinity

This is bad.
So very very bad
as if they're just trying to get away

Everybody not unvoting Infinity after this post by Uzi is scum in my book.

Vote Uzi. All day.

What on earth? I legit didn't think it was that bad. Did you just hammer?

I said I didn't think LUv's statement was that bad, and I couldn't have unvoted after he hammered.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, Zyf switched and you're saying he's scum. Nice try.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ehhh, might as well create a competing wagon. For my other scum read.

VOTE: LUV

---Here is an opportunity where Vote hopping came actually be AI peeps---

Speaking of, care to explain exactly why you'ld create an opposing wagon? I don't suspect Infinity though.

[Gamma Emerald]

I came in suspecting Grendel/Infinity due to how Grendel handled saying Infinity and LUV were probably not scum buddies, but apparently it's Grendel/Skold.

[Gamma Emerald]

Grendel, didn't you say you'ld wreck GallyNukes' mead hall? Very suspicious now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gonna be AFK for a couple hours, unless I get time.

[Gamma Emerald]

Grendel, didn't you say you'ld wreck GallyNukes' mead hall? Very suspicious now.

*facepalm* you're actually not helping convince infinity dude

I think Night 2 Grendel fulfilled his promise. As for why it didn't happen Night 1,
>Grendel was playing catchup.
>Rask had made that comment about pressuring Zyf, so Skold likely killed him for wine purposes.

[Gamma Emerald]

First though is the team is skold/grendel but I need to look at everything again. Also I'm traveling and shit so I'm gonna need a lot of time. If anyone wants to talk to me about stuff, I'll be available though.

Infinity, just vote Grendel, you've suspected him all Day.

[Gamma Emerald]

Infinity ask me anything you are still worried about and I'll do my best to answer you.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma You suspected me at various points during the game, why didn't you question/pressure me more after early d1?

I was mostly just creating discussion.

@zyf you originally said you have town vibes on LUV, when and why did those go away?

They went away Nught 1 because I second guessed my read, as well as due to his frivolous posting.

@gamma Why did you use zyf' tell of caring about others' perceptions if you did it yourself?

I was mad and I used his case on me against him.

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma You suspected me at various points during the game, why didn't you question/pressure me more after early d1?

I was mostly just creating discussion.

What does this mean? You didn't actually suspect me?

Aside from about the strange posting habits and the stuff on Day 2, yeah.

@gamma Why did you use zyf' tell of caring about others' perceptions if you did it yourself?

I was mad and I used his case on me against him.

But you also used it against me.

When? I think I was just being snarky at Zyf then too.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I was just being snarky.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I guess I did put some credence into it. It wasn't really that bad though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Grendel is going to be VLA for a few days. Also, if Infinity was mafia, he would have hammered by now.

[Gamma Emerald]

I care. Zyf, don't be like this. Once we lynch Grendel, we just have an easy 3P LyLo.

[Gamma Emerald]

Zyf please have patience.

[Gamma Emerald]

@ Infinity, How far away are you from reaching a consensus?

Need to finish gamma/zyf ISO and quickly meta zyf then I'll be done

How far are you rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Zyf: I checked your ISO to see exactly where Infinity is, and I have one concern (and don't you attack me for caring about appearances, I just want to know your thoughts): when EXACTLY did you start to think I could actually be town, with minimal doubt?

[Gamma Emerald]

I just wanted to know.

[Gamma Emerald]

I know you are town, I just wanted to know if you changed on the claim or I actually played half well.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kind of a shit move, now that I think about it. Sorry if I fucked up.

[Gamma Emerald]

@zyf When did you realize that this was only gamma's second mafia game (that's true right)?

Second forum game.

[Gamma Emerald]

And I stated it twice Day 1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Zyf, do you even have a clue why forcing this could backfire horribly? Because you don't seem to. We don't want to make the person who will decide the game angry.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm gonna try to answer your question to Grendel and Skold, but from Town!Zyf and Town!Gamma perspective.
Zyf initially thought that you, Infinity, could be my scum buddy. However, when Rask and LUV, along with one other person I don't remember, maybe Gally, said my play wasn't scummy, Zyf realized that with five people unconvinced, he had no chance of actually causing a lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

How is my play complacent?

[Gamma Emerald]

Silence: zyf

I think Infinity stated his opinion on Zyf's rushing.

[Gamma Emerald]

That second one is actually relevant Grendel.

[Gamma Emerald]

This is completely different. Skold made a controversial statement. Zyf is pushing the lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

1: Zyf is pissing off Infinity quite a bit. Do you think scum would not have thought "oh, this might be a bad idea to set off the one thing determining whether I win or not"? I noticed Skold made a more passive-agressesive pass at Infinity, too.
2: You could have been still catching up N1, and then "wrecked his meadhall" N2.

[Gamma Emerald]

I had started to scum read him then I guess. I did say I had a gut scum read on him D2.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who does that first part refer to?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, notice how in this one and my Day 2 list, Gally and LUV have pretty much the exact same read. The shift in opinion came from thinking that the nice friendly style could hide something else. I only voted Gally then because he asked me to join his wagon. I kinda went with the crowd end of Day 1/ all of Day 2.

[Gamma Emerald]

No. The entire basis for you siding with Grendel was that it was in your line(you were bp, Grendel was tracker). Doc is in line with tracker and cop. You can't expect us to believe you are town now. Infinity, I think we've seen enough.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll wait to switch until Infinity indicates he's on the Skold lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

1: Zyf is pissing off Infinity quite a bit. Do you think scum would not have thought "oh, this might be a bad idea to set off the one thing determining whether I win or not"? I noticed Skold made a more passive-agressesive pass at Infinity, too.
2: You could have been still catching up N1, and then "wrecked his meadhall" N2.

1: The entire point of his being transparently obnoxious is for towncred. It is a bad idea for scum to do that, so bad that people don't think scum will do it. Skold did it first and got town cred, and now Zyf is trying to do it for town cred. You are opening ignoring all the scum intent to be had with Zyf's actions today, while painting skold (who did it first) in a bad light. Also you saying that Zyf hasn't pulled any passive aggressive manipulation is a lie.

you know what grendel, go ahead. Tear my iso fucking apart and point to everything scummy I did that completely contradicts your catch-up that exactly copied others' thoughts.

I've already explained as best I can why you should be fucking dead.

Infinity feel free to ask me questions, I'm just not gonna respond to a scumbutt that's not even fucking voting me.

This post was oozing passive aggressiveness.

That's aggressive-aggressive.

2: Yes, I openly acknowledged my plans to kill Gally as a joke in the thread proper at a time where I hadn't read the game yet, or had modivation to want Gally dead. This is such a contrived argument that I'm utterly baffled your pushing it as evidence that I killed Gally.

Okay, notice how in this one and my Day 2 list, Gally and LUV have pretty much the exact same read. The shift in opinion came from thinking that the nice friendly style could hide something else. I only voted Gally then because he asked me to join his wagon. I kinda went with the crowd end of Day 1/ all of Day 2.

You view people asking for backing on their pushes/ people directing the lynch to be scummy, yet you’ve asked people to sheep you.

Why does this scum tell not apply to you?

I didn't know that much about sheeping, and with the term werewolf referring to a scum faction, thought it was a scum tell, but it's actually NAI.

[Gamma Emerald]

Whoops, messed up the quotesplit there.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, you got my reason for investigating you wrong. I noticed you had posted light and thought "hey, I doubt this guy will get nightkilled if he's town, let's get a strong ally". And I started to shift null on you Day 2. That second full paragraph,

where the hell did I say that?

All I really tohught on the switching matter was that saying I was scum for not switching, when I wasn't online ATM, was uncalled for. If you're talking about the "forming a separate wagon" thing, I don't remember if I called you out on that, but now that I think about it, that's really suspicious. Both LUV and Infinity are known to be town now, so trying to avoid a lynch of your buddy is not it, but I think you were trying to form wagons on two town players to avoid any risk of your team getting lynched. There, using hindsight, I just presented solid reasoning that you are mafia.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi! Have I mentioned my home WiFi sucks monkey ass? BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES
And don't make him replace, that would be torture to the replacement. Remember how Rask said any spectators would have brain cancer when they caught up? well at this point, I suspect they aren't any more spectators due to the sheer amount of tumors killing them.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, you got my reason for investigating you wrong. I noticed you had posted light and thought "hey, I doubt this guy will get nightkilled if he's town, let's get a strong ally". And I started to shift null on you Day 2. That second full paragraph,

where the hell did I say that?

All I really tohught on the switching matter was that saying I was scum for not switching, when I wasn't online ATM, was uncalled for. If you're talking about the "forming a separate wagon" thing, I don't remember if I called you out on that, but now that I think about it, that's really suspicious. Both LUV and Infinity are known to be town now, so trying to avoid a lynch of your buddy is not it, but I think you were trying to form wagons on two town players to avoid any risk of your team getting lynched. There, using hindsight, I just presented solid reasoning that you are mafia.

Did

no one

read this?

[Gamma Emerald]

What the FUCK
THIS IS LYLO

[Gamma Emerald]

No I am not saying anything would have changed, I'm saying the statement was uncalled for. That shift happened end of Day 1/Day 2, due to the parroting. As I said, I wanted an ally, I got an enemy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mm, well I didn't know you were not on. I still think it is a valid point against you.

What do you mean by parroting?

Other than clearing me Day 1, you put forth no really new information in your recaps. That's the parroting.

[Gamma Emerald]

My case was like the only thing you presented anything new on. I invite you to try to prove me wrong.

[Gamma Emerald]

OK GRENDEL YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT
Zyf has done this impatient shtick all game. He did it on me, and the only reasons I can think you didn't realize are:
A: You didn't connect the instances.
B: You didn't care to check.

[Gamma Emerald]

How do I embed a video? I want to embed a song that encompasses my feelings right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

You could have claimed doc, but then how would you defend Grendel? As you said, BP is with tracker but not cop.

[Gamma Emerald]

You say the Gally kill was all you. What about Rask?

[Gamma Emerald]

So I dodged a bullet with my investigation.

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually almost investigated Gally.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well then. I investigated Skold, and he came up Mafia.
VOTE: Skold

[Gamma Emerald]

WHY DID SKOLD NOT KILL/BLOCK

[Gamma Emerald]

Well played guys. My reads were garbage this game, so it's really lucky I got killed night one.

I ALMOST INVESTIGATED THE NIGHTKILL DUDE
But seriously, I was very lucky this game. If they had killed ANYONE except Gally or Infinity, we would have had a bad time.

[Gamma Emerald]

*Killed night 2 I mean

[Gamma Emerald]

I wanted to play a game where I never hard claimed. I was really mad when you guys decided to popcorn, and decided to break sequence so I didn't get screwed by the two scum counterclaiming before I even claimed.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW I'm posting a video link here later, so how do I embed videos?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Skold: how do you like my avatar?

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think that level of participation will be happening soon from me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Should work.
This is how I feel about the results.

[Gamma Emerald]

The time it starts is weird, but it works.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's a music extension. It's normally a minute or two, but it is looped for half an hour