I don't like how you've treated the Cloud and Hellfire wagon. You misrepped one of Cloud's townreads as a confirm to get a wagon going and you declared intent to hammer despite an there being an IC slot who posted nothing. There was the "if x flips town then his attacker must be scum" post you made but I don't necessarily find that indicative since I can see that logic coming from a newer player.
My thoughts on Hellfire:
The wagon is bad. There's also a lot of talk for him faking his experience but no one is considering the idea of him being a newb at first and then learning through strategy guides on wiki. He posted about it on
139 The only thing you could perceive as scummy is his accidental "hammer." And I can see this coming from newbtown. Note that this was before his 139.
Do you want anything in specific?
Do you think this is scummy?
Lol at how our IC is inactive. This is how I personally play. Feel free to use it if it helps you.
Mafia know who each other are and they know who is aligned with the town. Their win condition is to eliminate the town.
Town do not know who each other are and they don't know who is aligned with the mafia. Their win condition is to eliminate the mafia.
Every player is doing things to achieve one of their win conditions. So you analyze with the mindset of:
"Is this action a player did more helpful to achieve a town win or a mafia win?"
"Is this action a player did more likely to come from a townie or a mafia?"
If you're mafia, you have to make it look like you're achieving a town win while trying to achieve a mafia win at the same time. Otherwise, by just straight up going for your win condition of eliminating town, you'd look really scummy.
