Newbie 1759 (Game Over)

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This actually started wow.

I'm fine with sheeping.

VOTE: Nobita

L-2 hihi

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Easy, lets lynch them before replacement. I guess not having their names in bold means they didn't confirm?

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Always wanted a first or second page lynch

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Easy, lets lynch them before replacement. I guess not having their names in bold means they didn't confirm?

Why? Wouldn't make more sense to hear from him/her (or his/her replacement)?

Pah, that's makes it less interesting. I'll promise you they'll get replaced anyways. Didn't confirm yet, let's just risk a misslynch and go on. Day 1 is a misslynch often enough so lets just kill them.

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VOTE: gigabyteTroubadour
there seriously no edit button? this is annoying.
GM/Mod please merge my post if triple post is wrong, i feel silly with these mistake.

Dude wtf? Edit button in a mafia game? Think again lol

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Are you kidding me? You wanna tell me I can change whatever I said later on if I catch suspicion? Yeah right..

Oh and friend, please try harder.

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VOTE: Friend

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I don't. There's no need to defend myself. Everybody can see I'm town.

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I have nothing to defend against guys. You are just exaggerating RVS and trying to hard. This would be the worst scumplay ever lol. At least 1 scum in this wagon I guess. Probably fredrick or friend.

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I'm at l-2 btw since nobody cares to say it

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I don't even know where to start. First, stop editing quotes, that can cause a lot of trouble. Second there are no actions to explain since we were more likely still are in rvs and all that was happening was trolling at high level, if you like to lynch me based on jokes I'm concerned you guys need to fix your town play. Nobitas wagon? You mean those first page rvs votes ( please go and look up rvs if you have no clue )? Those votes were 100% NAI, at least if you can't read minds.

You guys seem very eager to hunt scum, please at least do it right.

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Again, traf definition of RVS. It can help you get a slight inside view of people but unless you are pretending to be a mentalist or have luck it normally doesn't .

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This is not a random vote.

This is me using logic.

So you are saying random vote stage in which we are and in which I jumped a wagon with my vote is not random? Srsly?

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Obviously I wasn't referring to your post.

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*your vote

I heavily suggest we lynch you. Your vote is not reasonable and you overdo reading into jokes from rvs. Nice try to pretend scumhunting for a scum.

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I'm not going to repeat myself again. You already stated those things, I have no reason to defend since there is no reasonable scumread on me.

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Pickin' up serious scum vibes from rJXr

VOTE: rJXr

1. Voting for someone who hasn't posted yet, just because they will prob be replaced.
2. Defending himself by saying that Day 1 is often a mislynch. It's true, but let's not encourage it.
3. Says it's "less interesting" to wait for a defense.

Ok I'm starting to answer to the so called "reasons for a scumread":

1. Didn't do that. RVS vote is RVS vote.

2. That wasn't a defense, just added up to the discussion about a first page/second page lynch.

3. It obviously is?! I never said its a good thing to do.

Let's see what's next up, posting from phone so this will take some time.

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I don't even know where to start. First, stop editing quotes, that can cause a lot of trouble. Second there are no actions to explain since we were more likely still are in rvs and all that was happening was trolling at high level,...

First, I didn't put words in anyone's mouth by editing quotes. Second, Nobita, Friendly Computer, and I have been pushing this game out of RVS by questioning you. Votes on you are because of a scum read.

... if you like to lynch me based on jokes I'm concerned you guys need to fix your town play....

Your votes clearly show that you did have that intent and it was more than a joke. Also, if it were a joke, you should have just said so when Friend Computer made a clearly serious case against you in post 25.

...Nobitas wagon? You mean those first page rvs votes ( please go and look up rvs if you have no clue )? Those votes were 100% NAI, at least if you can't read minds.

Similarly, our votes on you should also be 100% NAI. Meanwhile, I'm getting scumreads on you on other factors I've mentioned in my posts.

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You guys seem very eager to hunt scum, please at least do it right.

Tell me what I'm doing wrong.[/quote]

1. No you didn't, but I can't be fucked to double check your quotes cause you might do. It doesn't matter if you pushed out of rvs by now (which you didn't do for everyone, zito just gave his rvs vote) because everything you voted me for happened in rvs.

2. Omfg. Again stop taking rvs more serious than it is. Btw this is obviously not about my vote on computer, so not votes but vote. This is about the rvs vote and rvs talk, not what I concluded after you guys jumping me. You're hanging up too much on the word "joke". Let's rather call it trolling/randomly posting, maybe that helps you get off your paranoia.

3. You can always argue about anything being NAI or not, but rvs vote are most of the time (they're meant to get discussion rolling). Yes, and these factors are directly connected to my rvs vote. Just admit already that your so called scum read on me is way weaker than you yourself think man. Makes it easier.

4. I just did.

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*your vote

I heavily suggest we lynch you. Your vote is not reasonable and you overdo reading into jokes from rvs....

Friend Computer's vote clearly wasn't RVS as he made a clearly serious case against you.

... Nice try to pretend scumhunting for a scum.

Just look at that accusation against you in post 25. He clearly wasn't pretending to hunt for scum. Oh wait, you actually know that already as shown below.

I'm not going to repeat myself again. You already stated those things, I have no reason to defend since there is no reasonable scumread on me.

You're saying Friend Computer's scumread is unreasonable because whatever you said in page 1 was a joke. I suggest you explain how that joke of yours is one. Otherwise, there's no reason to take it as one.

Again that word "joke" is making you go crazy.

Ofc friends vote wasn't rvs ffs, I never even said that, so for you: IM TALKING ABOUT MY RVS VOTE. There's a difference between rvs and actually voting someone for reasons, in this case, weak ones, but reasons.

So you're telling me you for sure know that he is not pretending to scumhunt? Are you scum and know he's town? I'm just saying I feel like he is scum trying to make an easy case on me (that's because it's a really bad one) thus pretends to scumhunt on a townie to make himself look like one. Got it yet? Jesus.

There is a reason to take it as a joke/random talk/trolling because it's fucking rvs. Dude, please go read other games rvs on this forum and you'll see.

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rJXr, I don't think this would be "the worst scumplay ever". The fact you've stated you want to lynch someone before his replacement, that you want a page 2 lynching pretty much eliminates IMO this option.
I think you were either joking the entire time or planning to use the whole “reverse psychology” concept the entire time.

Scum coming up with that play from the beginning sure needs balls, but I agree, you could actually play it on purpose. I rather like to act on impulse and depending on situations tho.

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I'm gonna give a slight readlist after reading everything again.

Towniest

Nobita
Selynee (mostly gut)
Giga
Friend
Zito, PP, Nips
Fredrick

Scummiest

Based on the whole on going discussion I see him as most suspicious. Kinda for the same reasons as computer, but he's furthermore agreeing way too much to others. I feel like he's trying to push a misslynch on me without giving his own reasons. He argues about computers reasons and sheeps them, but his post lack content besides that and tend to repeat the same over and over. Computer on the other hand started the wagon on me on his own. I actually like him for doing so even tho his reasons are not good. Feels more like town trying to get this going.

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VOTE: Fredrick

I make this vote based on that I am still thinking there's at least 1 scum at my wagon.

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Frederick on l-2 if I count right.

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Sry should have made that clearer. You, zito and nips are on null since I've seen something from everyone else. Wanted to leave you out of the list first but decided not to. So just imagine a ( null ) behind your names sir.

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Towniest

Nobita
Selynee (mostly gut)
Giga
Friend
Zito, PP, Nips
Fredrick

Explain your FC townread, because I don't see it.

He aint a townread, I just see him slightly townier than Fredrick, you might as well put him under null reads. I do not like both so far tho.

Lets put it like this so it gets clearer for everyone:

Towniest (from top to bottom):

Nobita
Selynee
Giga
Zito,PP, Nips
FC
Fredrick

I am feeling the most insecure about Giga here, but thats probably more because of his SE status than really reasonable.

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Well he surely didn't go from my vote to townread. Should have just left nulls out that's it or make the list like town - null - scum.

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Lynch fredrick already. So opportunistic

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Well, given you've voted half the players in the game, most of which are basically naked votes...yeah. That. That's bad.

How is that bad?

Are you asking how naked votes are bad?

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Actually

I much prefer a Fred lynch.

Can you explain this plz

Initial push on rJ based on his RVS stuff is scum trying to push an easy mislynch - I didn't like his misrep on rJ being calm either, and his change of tune when called out on in. He unvoted when he met resistance. Then votes on you, but unvotes when he gets a little resistance. It looks to me like he's trying to get something to stick.

Prime example: Fred's response to the Nips on why Fred's vote on you was bad met with a "this indeed is very debatable," but instead of debating he unvotes. Bad.

This.

Screw me if PP is scum ( little paranoia since I see him as a decent mafia player ). If Fred flips town it'll only be fair to have a closer look on him, same goes for me obviously, but well, can't question myself.

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Fredrick at l-1. Time to explain your play up till now. I don't see anyone taking his vote off you soon so maybe even a claim. To the others, do not hammer without intent or giving him the chance to speak up. Well if you're scum go have a bit off.

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*bite ofc

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Right, I missed that. Still explanations are surely not wrong here. I don't see anyone as close to scum as him at the moment.

True, but since I am town there's no reason why I wouldn't let people take part in my thought process.

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VOTE: Frederick

If this would be a hammer, don't count the vote.

You are not serious are you? IF this was a hammer it would have counted anyways. That's a legal vote, doesn't matter if you tell the mod to not let it count, it still will. Ok, I need to sort my mind after that retarded post. I'd like to hear from others what they're thinking about it, for me that play is so absolutely dumb it can't possibly be newbscum slipping, I mean cmon, like wtf?!

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This lets me think of him more as a town than a scum because of what I just said CONSIDERING he's new to the game.

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Both of your last posts are somewhat true, but not helping nor do they weaken the case against you tbf.

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FC, why are you so eager with hammering? There's plenty of time left.

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It were some posts very early in the game that made me feel like nobita is newbtown (to clear up things, just because he is at the top of my read list it doesn't mean I have a strong townread on him ). Gonna check tmrw for those posts, 2:50am right now so I can't really be fucked

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Related to the gamestate one could mean an actual strong townread is hard to have.

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V/LA over the weekend

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I don't think that was a good idea..

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I'm currently very busy and I only have my phone to post but I'm still following everything.

How is zito getting so much towncredit? That d1 misslynch had no real reasoning or at least he didn't let us know much of that.

Liking show and selynee for town atm.

How is there only 1 vote on PP?

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VOTE: PP

I just don't get how he could've supported that d1 lynch.