Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)
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That leaves two town voting Schadd.In post 913, mattblackguy wrote:
TB, doesn't know how to defend himself so he's just trying to push the mislynch on Schadd instead.In post 911, RadiantCowbells wrote:TB, if you do not unvote Schadd in the next 24 hours I am going to hammer you.
Schadd is town and obviously so.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Are you fucking kidding me?In post 832, cassielle wrote:EBWOP oh wait i dont have a vote out wtf
VOTE: schadd_ i hate not having a vote out2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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What if scum didn't shoot Raskol but instead shot their PR read and they were 1-Shot BP?
Then GBT would be free to bus without worrying about a confirmed clear, and I'm pretty sure she would expect to be able to win the 1v1 citing my bussing meta and probably not get lynched after me.
My issue rn is that I don't see why scum Gigabyte busses in this situation rather than search out the PR if they targeted Raskol like they should have.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Creature > Grey > MattBlack.In post 961, Raskolnikov wrote:
And what is the remaining 15% ?In post 957, RadiantCowbells wrote:GBT is like 85% scum.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I thought ThinkBig was reasonably likely to be scum and I didn't want to risk you switching over.OK, so if you agree the optimal play is to shoot raskol is, then what the fuck is 921?
there was no shot of you getting nk'd, i don't think anyone on the TB wagon would have hammered schadd_, so???
it was a really fucking pointless hammer and when i saw it i assumed your next step would be to hardbus cassie, chain an easy ml on me, and then get a pretty easy 3-way
I wouldn't have been surprised if I had been shot but I am pretty fucking sure that no doc would have saved me over Raskol.
I am trying to solve the game and solving the game means figuring out what scum and PRs did last night.You feel awfully rolefishy today.
If GBT is PR they should claim because otherwise I'm lynching them today. Everyone else can stay quiet.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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GBT flying in and bussing while picking a fight with me is a dead end play if you are going to survive today.In post 973, Raskolnikov wrote:
Really?In post 972, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think that Cass/GBT are scumbuddies atm.
Either she will end up confirmed scum or have to convince me to not powerlynch her when I'm already pissy about it.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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GBT + something other than Cass sort of makes sense.
GBT's creature read feels blown way out of proportion and their play is scummy as shit in general but it would require Cassielle to be town which is a pretty big stretch.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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This is a newbie and I'm not going to risk alienating people to try to win and ruin the game like my last one.
My slot is town, you're scumreading me for a hammer that I would never have made as scum. It literally serves no purpose.
I play to endgame as scum because I am a good scum player. That hammer got me heavily scumread for no benefit.
I ask: why do you think that Scum!RC decided to stick his neck out for a pointless quickhammer on dueling 4/4 wagons?
If I really wanted to just end the day as scum I would have replaced in said bye felicia and complained the next day that my reads are shit so far.
My predecessor was townread and everyone in this game besides Raskol who I have played with has proven they are shit at reading me.
Lay off.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Anyway.
Cass literally IIOAs more than she actually posts content. she spends half the game on tangents about what people do and/or should be doing.
And yeah, some people like myself and Mastin do this constantly as town, but there's a massive difference between me arguing optimal play and Cass sitting there going NOOBSCUM DO X Y Z without pointing to anyone in the game with it. 12 is the worst example.
This really doesn't come from a town thought process. Like, REALLY doesn't come from a town thought process.id say give him a chance to wiggle out
Massive posturing in shit like
Does this look like someone who is looking for scum or someone who wants to make Rask look scummy?explain that out of thin air l-1 crap pls? yeah sur eit was really l-2, but you didnt know that so wtf? explain yourself, what on earth was the point of it, why did you do it? why did you expect tb to be a good candidate for that kind of pressure even???
Someone trying to scumhunt or someone trying to exaggerate cases?gbT gets 5th TR and still has really low standards for scum? bs. i dont buy that for a minute. even if two slots are lurky youre gonna get a bit on the paranoid side about folks and this is literally just gbT jumping up and down on TB because SURE LETS DENY TOWN A DISCUSSION POINT AND SOURCE OF INFO WHY NOT. two answers and he shuts it down without even fully buying into his own reasoning and trying to get the hamster to pull that wagon into town, gtfo of here with that.
Again: there's no scumhunting in her ISO. Just her grandstanding about how everything everyone does is insanely scummy. At no point do I get the impression reading her posts that she is actually trying to solve the game, just feels like she wants to make people look scummy.WTF is town doing trying to keep people from putting info out? scum knows all, town is not omniscient. scum has a vested interest in shutting down info-generating discussion, town DOES NOT. it also is sorta bad for the noobs -- they dont have an opportunity to say where they are curious about things without actively putting themselves out front role wise or etc. thats a pro-scum attitude, if not precisely anti-town.
Also the maintained Raskol scumread I think is because she's scared that she'll look inconsistent when she switches.
Do I need to go on?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Like her 'theorycrafting' doesn't even line up with her actions in game. And town can be awful hypocrites but it's so glaring and gross here.
Especially with all her 'scumhunting' just being OMG DID YOU SEE HOW THIS GUY DID THAT SCUMMY THING LIKE HOLY FUCK SO SCUMMY.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Why are two of your super townreads my second and third biggest scumread?
Neither Giga nor Creature's play has justified any sort of townread on them and I'm leaning pretty heavily that scum is Cass/Creature right now anyway.
I'm starting to get a sinking feeling that Cass is town and I replaced into a scum sweep.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Alright big guns here.
VOTE: Creature
I don't think that we win after a cass lynch even if she's scum. I did some digging and it would be insanely uncharacteristic of Grey to replace in and hard bus a scumbuddy.
I am 100% positive that Schadd is town here and I have only once been wrong on a townread of this nature and it was on someone who basically stalked my mafia play for months to understand how to beat me. Raskol is confirmed. Mattblack is probably town.
Someone who is heavily townread is scum and they are who we need to lynch today.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I really don't care about other people's assessments of other people's meta, especially when they might be scumpartners.
If I were to link every game where someone was 100% SURE SOMEONE WAS TOWN CUZ FRIENDS AND META and they were dead wrong and after game it's like WELP I FUCKED THAT UP SRY then the same shit happens game after game.
I do not townread Creature and I am not going to write them off as town because you say that they are town.
@Raskolnikov Grey is an alt with someone who I have experience with and I don't want to go into any more detail on the subject.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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As for Schadd, he is obviously attempting to solve the game in a large number of posts. His read progression and play aligns near exactly. I do not see that from anyone else, including Matt.
The answer to where you're wrong, assuming town, is that Creature knows exactly what you're looking for to townread him and did exactly that.Post by gigabyteTroubadour » less than a minute ago
there's a difference between saying "guys trust my read" and "tell me where i'm wrong" though
there's no point in telling someone to trust my read because that doesn't progress the gamestate at all
asking you to explain why your read is different actually does and is what i'm actually looking for2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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That's why I have literally no desire to build cases.
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You have played 1 game with me before now. I complain about getting NKed as scum because I am literally permadead as town. If you are going to argue that I have a scum meta of using 'OH I MIGHT BE DEAD TONIGHT' to justify decisions that I 1) would have done the exact same thing as town and 2) did do as town, I will just vote you.rc's hammer in 921 and me not really jiving with his logic when he explained it just gives me flashbacks to my newbie where he talked me out of pushing for a NL in a 6 player mylo with a claimed, un-shot BP because he was totally going to get nk'd and no one would listen to his reads (despite the fact that i was basically his and kraska's lapdog that game because i didn't really know how to alignment read that well) and i just kind of lapped it up
like i said i want to call bullshit on rc thinking that he could possibly be the N1 kill after you claimed making his hammer pointless when i needed more time (basically to make sure i wasn't like this during D2), which makes me think scum motivation2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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seems about accurate.In post 1150, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could
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It's also possible I'm just flat out wrong on a read somewhere and most of my null-nullscum pool is town.
I'm going to look at some scumteam possibilities and see if anything pops out.
I've thought about that, especially since it looks like he's trying to connect the two of us as a scumteam. If Grey's scum I'm positive it's between Creature/Cass.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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If you're town your play has been craptastic this game and you should feel bad about it.In post 1224, -Grey- wrote:
I'm getting tired of your shit.In post 1220, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gigabyte/Grey actually makes sense too.
VOTE: RC
Make a case or eat rope.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Okay then mr. shitty town I really don't care what you have to say and I don't particularly think that you're town so you can either shut the fuck up and vote somewhere else or I am going to lynch you today and if town loses because of it then it's no one's problem but yours.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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