Newbie 1135 - Game Over! Town Wins!

[Nexus]

Moderator: Nexus.

Player List: (Bolded means confirmed)

YonzyAnkamius
Fetterkey *
HearTheLightning (SE) **
Rhinox (IC)

*prodded

The IC(s) are here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a Good IC.

Dead
overfly ** Ten_Heavens - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1.
juanpa899 *Iamnobody * - Mafia Rolecop - Lynched Day 2.
matt493 Arcanis * greygrey2000 A Helping Hand theplague42 - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 2
Wingless (SE) * kondi2424 Quilford - Vanilla Townie -Lynched Day 3
marli2 ****vijay2vasandani Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 4

Deadline/Lynch threshold:


Game Events:

Day 1 Begins
Votecount 1.1
Votecount 1.2
Votecount 1.3
Votecount 1.4
Votecount 1.5
Votecount 1.6
Votecount 1.7
Votecount 1.8
Votecount 1.9/Lynch Scene

Day 2 Begins
Votecount 2.1
Votecount 2.2
Votecount 2.3
Votecount 2.4/Lynch Scene

Day 3 Begins
Votecount 3.1
Votecount 3.2
Votecount 3.3/Lynch Scene

Day 4 Begins
Votecount 4.1/Endgame

[Nexus]

The Rules:

Rule 0. Don't be a jerk. Please adhere to the site rules, and especially don't get personal. Personal attacks may lead to ejection (possibly immediate) from the game. Be nice. Play to win. It's only a game.

General:

- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread unless your role PM allows you to do so.
- Day phases will last exactly 3 weeks.
- Night Phases will last 72 hours.
- During night phase, no talking may be done in the thread at all.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.

Voting/PlayerActions:
- All votes must be in bold format: vote: Nexus for example.
- Try to unvote before voting. Unvotes must also be in bold.
- Any and all votes will be counted, if you wish to waste a day phase voting for someone not in the game,that's fine by me.
- You may vote No Lynch.
- Voting tricks are not acceptable. If you misspell someone's name intentionally, but I get the gist of it, the vote will count.
- A lynch will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then no lynch shall occur.
- Following a lynch, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
- If you are killed, one Bah! type post is permitted. No game related information must be relayed during them, however.
- If you have a Night Action, you may not submit an action during Night 0 (aka confirmation stage). Each subsequent night, you may submit an action to me via PM.

Activity:

- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 48 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- Similarly, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.

Mechanics:
- Blue is my colour. Please don't use it.
- Do not edit your posts at all.
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography.
- The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- Do not use spoiler tags. You have no need to do so. Doing so will invite a warning.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

[Nexus]

The 2of4 setup is a test game format we’re trying out in Newbie games to get around balance issues with the F11 setup. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen as detailed below:

1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia RoleCop
5 Vanilla Townies
2 of the following (no duplicates possible): (Cop 25%, Doctor 25%, Jailkeeper 25%, Vanilla Townie 25%)

Notes

The RoleCop has the option of submitting both the night kills and investigations, even when the Goon is still alive.
Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the Night action PM is submitted!

These are the Role PMs that have potentially been sent to the players:

Mafia Aligned:

XXX you are a Mafia Goon. You, and XXX (Mafia Rolecop) are part of the local mafia crime family. You are determined to take over the town by any means necessary, so when night falls, you're going to try and eliminate them, one by one.

During the day, you must try to blend into the crowd, and try and avoid suspicion. You have the ability to vote for a lynch, and you must use this vote to ensure someone other than your or your partner gets lynched.

During the night, you or your partner have the ability to kill one member of the time. You can decide between yourselves who you will kill by discussing it in this quicktopic here:

You must PM me during the Night with who you want to kill, and who will be performing the kill. You or your partner may submit the kill, and your partner may choose to rolecop and kill if you wish.

You can also communicate during the confirmation period in your quicktopic, but once the game begins, you may not communicate together again until night falls. Please do not communicate with each other in any other way at any time.

You and your partner will win the game when your number equals or exceeds the number of alive Town players, even if one of you dies before the end.

The game thread is here:

Please confirm that you've read and understood your role PM and are ready to play by replying to this PM with your role name.

XXX you are a Mafia Rolecop. You, and XXX (Mafia Goon) are part of the local mafia crime family. You are determined to take over the town by any means necessary, so when night falls, you're going to try and eliminate them, one by one.

During the day, you must try to blend into the crowd, and try and avoid suspicion. You have the ability to vote for a lynch, and you must use this vote to ensure someone other than your or your partner gets lynched.

You, as a mafia rolecop, have the ability during the night to investigate another player and learn their specific role (Townie, Cop, Doctor or Jailkeeper). If you are blocked by the Town Jailkeeper then you will receive a PM stating "No Result."

During the night, you or your partner have the ability to kill one member of the time. You can decide between yourselves who you will kill by discussing it in this quicktopic here:

You must PM me during the Night with who you want to kill, and who will be performing the kill. You or your partner may submit the kill, and your partner may choose to rolecop and kill if you wish.

You can also communicate during the confirmation period in your quicktopic, but once the game begins, you may not communicate together again until night falls. Please do not communicate with each other in any other way at any time.

The game thread is here:

You and your partner will win the game when your number equals or exceeds the number of alive Town players, even if one of you dies before the end.

Please confirm that you've read and understood your role PM and are ready to play by replying to this PM with your role name.

Town Aligned:

XXX, you are the Town Cop. You have the ability to investigate one of your town each night.

Ability:

Investigate - Each night while you are alive, you can PM me the name of one person who you wish to investigate. You will then find out whether they are guilty or innocent in a return PM, unless you are jailkept by the Town Jailkeeper, in which case you will get "No result" All results are 100% reliable.

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

The game thread is here:

You may not communicate with any other player outside of the thread at any time.

Please confirm that you've read and understood your role PM and are ready to play by replying to this PM with your role name.

XXX you are the Town Doctor. You have the ability to protect one of your town from death each night.

Ability:

Protect - Each night while you are alive, you can PM me the name of one person who you can protect from a night-kill. You may not protect yourself.The person you target will not be killed that night.

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

You may not communicate with any other player outside of the thread at any time.

The game thread is here:

Please confirm that you've read and understood your role PM and are ready to play by replying to this PM with your role name.

XXX, you are the Town Jailkeeper, and you have the ability to ensure that anyone you think is undesirable is unable to do anything bad during the night.

Abilities:

Jailkeep: Once per Night you are able to PM me the name of a player you wish to send to jail during the night. Sending them to jail will prevent them from using a Night action. Neither you nor your target will be aware of whether your own action was successful. You may not put yourself in jail. The person that you jail will be protected from night kills, but may still be targetted by other night actions (i.e. they can be investigated).

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

You may not communicate with any other player outside of the thread at any time.

The game thread is here:

Please confirm that you've read and understood your role PM and are ready to play by replying to this PM with your role name.

XXX, you are a Vanilla Townie, you have no abilities.

Abilities:
None

You do however have your vote, use it wisely.

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

The game thread is here:

You may not communicate with any other player outside of the thread at any time.

Please confirm that you've read and understood your role PM and are ready to play by replying to this PM with your role name.

[Nexus]

Role PMs are going out now, in the player order listed in post one. I am setting this up via my mobile so it will be slow going. Apologies.

[Nexus]

All role PMs have been sent out. Game will start when i get 7 out of 9 confirmations.

[Nexus]

7 out of 9 have confirmed. Day 1 begins. You must now decide between yourselves who you think is the mafia and try to Lynch them.

With 9 alive it takes 5 to Lynch. Deadline is 7am (bst) on the 13th august 2011.

I will send a PM out saying the day has started this evening. People will have 48 hours to post and confirm if they haven't already.

[marli2]

alright then, lets do this the easy way. if the mafia just want give themselfs up the rest of you wont have to suffer....

[Wingless]

First vote!
vote: Fetterkey

[marli2]

vote:wingless.
for voting suspiciosly quickly.

[HearTheLightning]

Well, hello all, and welcome (many of you) to your first game of Mafia. I am one of the two SEs in this game, meaning that I am Semi~Experienced, and have otherwise been in at least two other games on this site. If you have any questions regarding the game, feel free to ask me, the other SE, or the IC (Rhinox), since technically he's the one in a mentoring position this game. I would make a more impressive introductory post, if not for the fact that first I'm on my phone while doing this, and secondly, I don't want to steal everyone else's thunder. And now, to the nitty gritty: I VOTE: Marli2, due to his lack of bold font or the vote tags, and both of which can be found above the writing space when conducting a post.

[Wingless]

Hm, well, hello all too.
Sorry for being rude, but you know every beginning is a bit strange. I am the other SE, if you have any question, you may ask anytime. By the way i am not a native English speaker (despite of this i don't think you will have much trouble with me). In another game it was a problem because i said this too late.
Sorry Rhinox and HearTheLightning, but i feel i must say one little piece of advice: don't expect to win this game without posting much (if townies speak much, scum will have to do the same thus giving us more chance to catch them). Ok this was all, i shut up now, i am not the IC. I think you new players will soon be by far better than me due to my language skills. Have a nice game:)

[overfly]

This is my first mafia game here, I feel so excited. 8D English is not my native language, so if I make a mistake you can point it out. 8D

To start the game, I vote: marli2, because his first post sounds suspicious to me. I believe asking the mafia to reveal themselves, especially in the beginning of the game, is kind of pointless. And I would like to ask a clarification on your second sentence. Which the rest of you is going to suffer? Is it the mafia, or town? Especially considering the way it's phrased. It's ambiguous, thus I cast my suspicions on you.

[Fetterkey]

Coming into this thread, I'm also rather suspicious of marli2's original post, but I'm not sure that I want to cast a vote for him so early on in the game, given that he has two votes already. We have a lot of time to use here, and I don't want to jump to any conclusions too early-- several people haven't even checked into the game yet.

[juanpa899]

maril2's post is very suspicious i've got to say...
why would someone just ask for scum to reveal themselves?

[Wingless]

Very nice little posts.
I have to say, i really don't like that Fetter and juan did not vote. Vote guys! Anybody, just vote!
I think marli was just kidding in the beginning. But of course that might be true, that he might said something he shouldn't have. I have been caught as a mafia when i made a little lingual mistake in my life. This might be the situation. As town's people, we should talk much to make scum talk much too and give them the chance to get into tough situations. Marli, i agree with the fact you should say something about that little incident.
Okay, let's random-question somebody.
Juanpa! Why didn't you attack me for not attacking marli in my previous post, in that i could have attacked him, and said nothing! So far only i am not sieging marli seriously.

[HearTheLightning]

Just so you all know, we are all in the beginning stage of the game called RVS, or the Random Voting Stage. Poeple throw around votes about nothing, similar to my vote. I'm not actually trying to get him lynched, but I put it there to start conversation. The most important part of RVs is getting the game moving and accelerating. To be perfectly honest, the more that is done, and the more silly accusations that are made, the faster the serious discussion can begin. As such, dont be scared to vote or put a vote down on a person. Secondly, votes only really become dangerous if you set them to L-1, which is to say they need one more vote to be lynched (4 votes on them). Consequently, L-2 would mean two more people have to vote them to be lynched, etc., etc. As such, it's really no problem to set a person to L-2, as you were going to do, Fetterkey, if I may be so bold.

Also, just to stir the pot a little, Juanpa seems to be jumping onto the Marli2 bandwagon in the same way, if not mimicking Fetterkey and Overfly. As of now, we have 2 votes on him, and 3 people saying that they're suspicious of him. As such, we have 4 people taking notice of Marli2, and I would have to say that it would be very easy for scum to jump onto the trend innocently.

Also: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... reviations
Is a very helpful guide to common Mafioso abbreviations.

[Fetterkey]

Secondly, votes only really become dangerous if you set them to L-1, which is to say they need one more vote to be lynched (4 votes on them). Consequently, L-2 would mean two more people have to vote them to be lynched, etc., etc. As such, it's really no problem to set a person to L-2, as you were going to do, Fetterkey, if I may be so bold.

I'm still a little worried, but I suppose I will take your greater experience to heart here and Vote: marli2, with the stipulation that I will be very suspicious of anyone who votes for marli2 again before he gets a chance to post further explain himself.

[overfly]

I agree that marli2 should have the chance to explain himself before he gets more lynch vote.

I also have a question to Wingless, just for the sake of getting the discussion going. Why did you vote for Fetterkey? I think it might be the case of random voting, but of all 8 other participants, why Fetterkey?

[Wingless]

Fetterkey's name was the most funny to me among all.

In fact, if marli was more scummy, i would instantly vote marli to put pressure on him. But i still think he was a bit enthusiastic, that's why it has no real sense voting he now in my position.
As far as I know it is always worth putting scummy person at L-1, except one case. If a mafioso could quickly vote him, thus lynching him and winning the came instantly, i would not do that, but i would do that in every other case. It is simply not worth for anyone to kill the person almost lynched before a great discussion and confession about their role, because in the next round, they will hang.

I think my vote can't do anything on Fetterkey, so i put it on juan. He said absolutely nothing new, just jumped on the wave of people attacking marli.
vote: juanpa899

[Wingless]

sorry, Nexus:
unvote
vote: juanpa899

[Nexus]

Votecount 1.1:

marli2 (3): Hearthelightning, overfly, Fetterkey
Wingless (1): marli2
juanpa899 (1): Wingless

Not voting: matt493, Yonzy, Rhinox

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The deadline is 7am on the 13th August 2011.

[Rhinox]

[IC]Hey everyone. I'll be your IC for this game. I'm an ordinary player just like the rest of you, and I'm playing to win just like everyone else. I can help you out with the sites terminology and slang and general procedures (along with the 2 SE's), but what I'm not here to do is tell you how to play, who to vote, what to do, etc. I prefer to take a teach by example approach, so I'll just play the game like the rest of you and try to keep the lecturey stuff to a minimum. We're all here to win but also to have fun. At some point, I or someone else will probably call you scum. It's never personal, its just how the game is played. Sometimes things get heated but just keep in mind that its only a game and we'll all share some digital drinks of choice during post game.

Just a note, I've noticed some of you haven't yet selected avatars. I recommend you all do so as soon as possible. It provides a way for other players to keep track of who said what throughout the game. Its easier/quicker to notice and interpret one avatar from another than it is to read determine a different username from another.

If anyone is having trouble bolding votes, here is what you need to typpe to get the bold to show up:

Code: Select all

[b]vote: whoever[/b]

[/IC]

Like this: vote: Fetterkey
The vote on Fet (can I call you Fet? or key?) is because he votes marli, but then says he's goign to be suspicious of any else who votes marli. It's like he doesn't actually think marli is scum (and we all know the only players who know who isn't scum right now). Seems like he wants to be on the wagon pushing it towards a lynch, but at the same time wants to avoid responsibility for it if it does go to lynch while simultaneously being suspicious of anyone else who may vote marli. So this vote is not a random vote from me.


[IC]You also might have noticed the IC tags - I'll try to use those when I'm speaking strictly as an IC, meaning I'm explaining something and its the same thing I'd say regardless of my alignment[/IC]

[Nexus]

Nexus: I believe you have Wingless on that vote count twice; and have him in 'Not Voting' instead of Rhinox.

So, some words of advice: This is a game, so please, try to enjoy it. You may feel like people are yelling at you, or are pressuring you excessively, and you may think that they are in fact annoyed at you. Try not to take it personally, as the whole game is focused around pressuring and finding out where all the scummers are.
If you feel you're about to be lynched, and you're scum OR town, don't vote yourself and "self-hammer," as we call it around here (Hammer means to put the final vote on a person that causes them to be lynched, which is going from L-1 to L-0. Once a "hammer" vote has been placed, it cannot be retracted.) the point of the game is to play towards your win condition, and even if you think you most likely are going to get lynched, don't speed up the process! This game is a game of words and using them to manipulate people. No matter your position, there is always something that you could say, or some argument that you can use. Try till you lose, and then keep on trying. Lynching yourself helps no one, and is considered a generally poor way to exit a game.
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Okay, so back to this specific game, honestly can't see the movement of excitement over Marli2. His original post, which is apparently the major draw of attention looks to me like a standard post for RVS, which to me seems like we've been preemptively pulled out of. I can't really find anything scummy in his post, besides the generic RVS content that we get so much in games. I do however want to restate my suspicion of the 3rd and 4th party to join this Marli2 Hate Train-- Fetterkey and Juanpa. As of now, their similarly stated posts of suspicion towards Marli2 seems to be scummy. With 9 players, out of which, only 7 are playing so far, I find it really hard for a 4-person bandwagon to have started without any Mafia involvement.

Fixed ~ Nexus

[Wingless]

With 9 players, out of which, only 7 are playing so far, I find it really hard for a 4-person bandwagon to have started without any Mafia involvement.

Actually i don't find that a devastating thing. This is like saying that if we choose 4 out of 9 people, it is pretty likely we have scum among them (the chance of not having scum among them is 5/19~1/4), which is true. I could be such aggressive as a town for sure.
In fact, i have a little thought. Marli is just a little bit more likely to be pro-town than pro-mafia. You know why? Soo many people gathered very quickly against him. In my experiences if something like this happens, the people bandwagonned is usually town(scum are not as likely to lynch themselves so quickly). But this might happen to a mafioso too. We know, the mafioso have only one mate who don't kill them as quickly as others. I hope you see my point. Both cases can occur, but if marli is mafioso, these 4 marli-attackers must be chosen from 7 players(not including himself and his mate), but if he's town, this 4 must be chosen from 8 players.

Juanpa, don't forget to answer my question when you write!

[juanpa899]

Juanpa! Why didn't you attack me for not attacking marli in my previous post, in that i could have attacked him, and said nothing! So far only i am not sieging marli seriously.

Really, I wasn't thinking about that since all you were doing was introducing yourself, and that kinda distracted me.

Oh, and VOTE:Maril2
I just get that feeling that's he's scummy.