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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:53 pm

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In post 33, Nobody Special wrote:I feel that Xegarus is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Vote: Xegarus


Yes, Jackel, I'm ignoring you. Don't take it personally. ;)
In post 87, Nobody Special wrote:
unvote

Vote: Dreamcatcher
In post 128, Nobody Special wrote:Cool.

unvote

Vote: Shadow
@Nobody Special
So far you voted for three different people and are on your third wagon. You don't provide much info when you vote, so who are on your scumlist and why?

@TSO and Xegarus
You had eachother suspected of being scum, now you are both voting on Shadow. Do you still see the other as scum? Why/why not?

If someone scumclaims (even as a joke), should you always lynch him? Why? For ruining the game or what?
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:58 am

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I don't particularly care that Xegarus is on the same wagon as me. Maybe he's bussing. Maybe he's town. I don't have enough of a scumread on him to leave a wagon on someone I'm scumreading -just- because he's on it too. My read would have to be stronger for me to do that.

Regarding shadow, idk. I thought he was a lot worse of a player than he is, so I guess he wasn't claiming scum after all. Regardless, he's the scummiest player itt atm.

God, my play this game has been abysmal so far.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:58 am

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In post 170, T S O wrote: God, my play this game has been abysmal so far.
Don't feel bad, mine has too.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:59 am

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In post 169, tysker wrote:
@Nobody Special
So far you voted for three different people and are on your third wagon. You don't provide much info when you vote, so who are on your scumlist and why?
In post 70, Nobody Special wrote:tysker is pretty town right now.

Jackel is prob-town.

I'm unsure about TSO & Xegarus.

No one else has posted enough yet.
See the last line quoted above.

Also,
unvote
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:18 pm

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Dreamcatcher has been prodded.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:45 pm

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So ummm, no posts in 24 horus hey?

NS, why the unvote without placing it anywhere else?

The more I read over this game the less I like TSO as town, but I can't put my finger on why...
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:14 pm

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I need to go back and get a sense of what's really happening. Until I do, I'm not comfortable voting.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:18 pm

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Fairy nuff.
No thoughts/questions in the meantime?
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:34 pm

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Not really.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:44 pm

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Touche.

Orangeyoshi and TSO are the scum team. Dreamcatcher and shadowspy are trolls. Game over?
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:00 pm

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In post 178, JKMatthews wrote:Touche.

Orangeyoshi and TSO are the scum team. Dreamcatcher and shadowspy are trolls. Game over?
What makes you think TSO is scum? Similarly, what makes you think shadowspy is a troll?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:11 pm

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In the Xeg/TSO exchange, TSO refused to acknowledge the fact that Xeg's argument was "you should have just left out the 'My wincon is town!'", and instead strawmanned it to death, implying that the only alternative to saying "I'm town" was saying "I'm scum".

Shadowspy is a troll by a combination of PoE, and the trolling that has gone on. Much, MUCH less confident that Dreamcatcher is a troll. What made you feel the need to ask about the nullTroll shadowspy instead of the scummyTroll Dreamcatcher?
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:20 pm

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Oh, after re-reading Dream's ISO I've decided he's trolling. However, it looks like he may be replaced with someone else. I haven't seen too much trolling from shadowspy other than post 126. Could you give more detail on that read?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:34 pm

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Fair enough. What do you think in the sudden change of tone towards TSO once TSO mentioned his tone is scummy? That implies trolling with intent rather than pure trolling.

shadowspy admittedly hasn't added much to the game, but the whole "I'm scum" thing is clearly trolling, and the rest just reads as not putting time/effort into the game to develop reads further. Until there would be any particular advantage to lurking, I try to look at lurking as a null tell (obviously this fact in itself makes lurking an advantage, but it doesn't stay that way for long).

What are your thoughts on shadowspy? You vote switched to him when he came into the game saying "I'm scum", then with very light pressure went back to Dream. How likely do you think it is that shadowspy was double bluffing with his "yes I'm scum!"? If you think Dream is just trolling, is there a better place for your vote?

I also see I forgot to answer your question in : yes, my logic is that you as scum copied a "joke" that you saw a town shadowspy make and sort of get away with, which implies both you as scum and shadowspy as town. So, if you were to ever flip town, it would nullify my theory's implication that shadowspy is town.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:43 pm

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Shadowspy looks scummy to me atm. He hasn't contributed to the game much (read: at all,) him saying I could be "manipulated" *shudder* sounds off, and he said he's scum. I think a double-bluff isn't out of the question. Saying you're scum can be used to make people think you're town, because what scum in their right mind would say they're scum? I'll be moving my vote to shadowspy if I notice anything else scummy. For now, he hasn't really said enough to warrant L-1.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:10 pm

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Righto. There certainly are large amounts of WIFOM around the "I'm scum" comment, but I think it all just leads to a null read. What do you think of TSO's "not getting the joke"?
And what inspired you to switch back to Dream from shadowspy? If Dream's just trolling, is there a better place for your vote?
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:53 pm

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In post 184, JKMatthews wrote:Righto. There certainly are large amounts of WIFOM around the "I'm scum" comment, but I think it all just leads to a null read. What do you think of TSO's "not getting the joke"?
I honestly have no idea what to make of that.

And what inspired you to switch back to Dream from shadowspy? If Dream's just trolling, is there a better place for your vote?
As I said, my vote moves to shadowspy if he does something scummy. Otherwise, not really any other useful place for it imo.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:18 pm

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: TSO
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:34 pm

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I know TSO has appeared scummy, but I highly doubt he's scum. I'm not going to participate in his lynch in this game.

Shadow is a total null. I've seen that type of 'reaction testing' and foolishness before, and it generally is never alignment-indicative.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:58 pm

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Woah, who said lynch? I don't think he's done anything to be solidly scum, but he also hasn't done much on the contrary. Gotta get something happening in this game, right?

I'm inclined to agree completely.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:26 pm

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That's L-1 people. Don't hammer without asking for a claim first


Your vote isn't self explanatory. Care to elaborate?
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:25 pm

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In post 191, JKMatthews wrote:
That's L-1 people. Don't hammer without asking for a claim first
I think NS unvoted so Shadow should be at L-2.

@MOD


Could we have a votecount please?
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:27 pm

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In post 193, Dreamcatcher wrote:
In post 151, tysker wrote:
In post 92, tysker wrote: 1: Tell me, how does it benefit the town that a townie claims day one, before pressure has been put on any other player?
I really wanted Dreamcatcher to answer this, but since i'm still lacking a response, could anybody answer this?
Anyone.... anyone???
In post 192, Dreamcatcher wrote:
He's clearly unequivocally trash and regardless of his role, it'd be beneficial to town to get him out of the game.
This is exactly what I see you.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:37 pm

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@Dreamcatcher


What do you think TSO also voting for Shadowspy? Do you think he is bussing?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:47 pm

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@Everybody


The three people voting for Shadowspy is TSO, Xegarus and Dreamcatcher. What do you guys think about it? With the posts on the first couple of pages in mind, I find it a bit strange.

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