I see your point, Rob.
Though I've already written everything about this topic in the thread, I'm recapitulating the most important things.
(1) Since I've been playing only IRL Mafia before, the posting style of some of you appeared to be rude. In an IRL game we have a thumb rule like "don't attack the player; attack the case". Having read other threads and by joining other games I realized later that your posts were eventually normal.
(2) Before joining the forum I thought that there are players from all around the world. Why? Because by playing many other kinds of online games I had had this experience before. Later I realized that most of you are from The US, some of you are from The UK or Australia or other native-speaker countries and there are not that many non-native players. Thatswhy I didn't understand why it was a "big deal" that I'm not a native speaker. Also, sometimes I'm simply unfamiliar with the Mafiascum terms (like MyLo/LyLo and things like that), though I've read the Wiki a lot. (Side-note: that was the main reason for mentioning the timezone topic: I thought that the players were most probably from different countries...)
(2/A) By the way, I can feel offended easily if someone says that my English is bad. There is a reason for it, I may tell it in PM if you're interested in it.
(3) I also understoond later that it was a mere coincidence that some of the experienced players had "attacked" a newbie. See also (1). Though, on Day1 I thought that it was not a coincidence. Shyt happens, I suppose, I'm not the only one in the Mafiascum history who made up an utterly wrong case. See also (2) – I thought that if some of you had a communication issue for
real
, there should have been questions about concrete sentences like "what did you mean by... ?" Instead of dealing the "misrepresentation–misinterpretation" cards over and over.
[Side-note: As I mentioned it before, I was working as a journalist for long years. I got used to writing like that. This means: I write something, I read it back, I edit the text, read it back again, etc. I realized that I have no time for this method. Thatswhy I end up with shytty sentences and this has nothing to do with the language I use.]
(4) In addition, I have many experiences on other webpages (not mafia-pages) where it's "normal" that the "older" members are trying to make "newcomers" quit for good. I thought it was the same here. I don't want to say bad things about anyone but, Stabsinthe's attitude strengthened this feeling in me. (Later, of course it turned out that he was a jerk and he should have been ignored all the time.)
(5) Though it's not about the things you were writing about, but I think it's very important so I write it again: before the game started I had had to wait a lot in the queue, than for the start. I would have been really annoyed if I had been quicklynched on Day1 because of a stupid case, or because of "communication barriers". (You'd understand the latter part better if you lived in such a vile country like this.) Later I understood that getting quicklynched on Day1 is very, very rare, and weak cases on Day1 are pretty common.
I strongly think
that the IC speech (or the mod speech?) should contain something about this topic. Something like
Don't get worried if there are a couple of votes for you early in the game. Quicklynches on Day1 are really rare, especially in newbie games. (Unless you do something extremely scummy.) Remember: a Day lasts for two weeks. Even if you have more votes than anyone else, it's still unsure that you're going to be the Day1 lynch in the end.
(Especially since Days are much shorter on many other webpages.) In my opinion, a comment like this might help newbies a lot!
In short, I think the whole fight came from several unfortunate events and misunderstandings. Has this post cleard the things for you, Rob?
