Newbie 1721 | Lightning | Endgame

Plotinus · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:50 pm

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froogoss
Zyf
Smiles
xSoniaNevermindx
Map Wolf
Performer (SE)
Transcend (SE)
Cheetory6 (SE)
Drixx (IC)

Spoiler: Game Reveals)

Spoiler: Replacement Queue

Spoiler: Spectators

Events4 - Day 1 starts
147 - Gyrlander replaces froogoss
472 - Nahdia replaces Smiles
938 - ploben replaces Performer
1350 - ploben is lynched, end of day 1
1353 - House replaces Drixx

1354 - Map Wolf is killed, day 2 starts
1489 - House is force-replaced
1517 - House's slot is lynched, day 2 ends

1520 - Nahdia is killed, day 3 starts
1600 - Zyf is lynched, end of game

Plotinus · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:45 pm

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Inspired by Equinox's, Glork's and Ether's rulesets.

important bit

14-day day phase, 48 hour night phase
Majority lynches
48 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
I have some unusual rules about animated GIFs, tiny text, and prodging. Scroll down for details.
Don’t be a dick

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Plotinus · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:49 pm

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Newbie SetupMatrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum):

	A	B	C
1	Town Jailkeeper	Vanilla Townie	Mafia Goon
2	Mafia Roleblocker	Town Cop	Town Doctor
3	Town 1-shot Bulletproof	Mafia Goon	Town Tracker

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

mafia goons

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vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

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All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Roleblocker

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Jailkeeper

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Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

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You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

1-shot Bulletproof TownieWelcome!

You are a

1-shot Bulletproof Townie.

You will survive 1 kill attempt during the game. This does not include lynches.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

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You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player they targeted with their action, if any.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

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Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon

/

Roleblocker

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You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

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Your partner is PLAYER, who is a

Mafia Goon

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You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk during night phases only.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Plotinus · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:04 pm

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Plotinus · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:23 pm

Official Vote Count 1.00

LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Everybody

(L-5): nobody

Not Voting

(9): Cheetory6, Drixx, froogoss, Map Wolf, Performer, Smiles, Transcend, xSoniaNevermindx, Zyf

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Drixx · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:28 pm

IC Introduction:

Hello everyone. I'm Drixx, and I'm the IC for this game. IC is a bit of a tongue in cheek designation. It stands for "Inexperience Challenged" which is basically an obtuse way of saying "experienced". If you look at the player list you will see a few players with the SE designation. The are Semi-Inexperience Challenged. Basically they are meant to convey the same thing: anyone who is an SE or IC has played a minimum amount of games, including at least one outside of the Road to Rome, where the newbie games are played. The only real difference is that the IC is a volunteer position to help teach the basics and answer questions that arise, and I am therefore obligated to answer questions and do so honestly, while the SE players are not obligated to answer, and if they do, they have no obligation to do so honestly.

Please note: Being the IC has absolutely nothing to do with my alignment or my role. Like every player in the game, those were assigned to me randomly. Since I will answer questions and generally try to be helpful, you may be tempted to view me more positively than if I were not fulfilling this role. Please don't. Any questions I answer or anything I explain about how the game is played, or anything I explain that is particular to this site's culture and "meta" are all just part of that job. They should not be taken into account when you are reading me.

There are a few things I like to cover at the start of each game for which I am an IC:

1.) The death of fun in forum mafia is a lack of activity. The more you can post and interact, the more fun you will have and, by extension, the more fun the rest of us will have. It's okay to just jump in and make mistakes: that's what this is for. Don't be intimidated and just have fun with the experience. Win or lose, you'll learn a lot and that's the first step.

2.) Most games on this site, and almost all of the newbie games, start with a phase called "RVS" (Random Voting Stage). This is basically this site's way of breaking the ice. Everyone votes for someone for silly reasons and within a page or two there will be an obvious shift away from that and the game will begin in earnest.

In that spirit, I'm going to:

VOTE: Cheetory6 because he's listed right above me.

3.) One of the biggest points of etiquette you will want to keep in mind is voting for people and the process by which a lynch happens. Since we begin with 9 players, it takes only 5 votes to lynch someone and with each day that number will go down. Generally speaking, if you put someone at one vote less than the number required to lynch (referred to as L-1), it is a good idea to put a

BOLDED

statement in your post alerting the rest of the game that you have put the player at one vote shy of being lynched. This helps to prevent people from accidentally finishing the lynch before the player can defend themselves, make a role claim if they happened to be assigned a role, or even just a chance to make sure they share their thoughts with the game.

3a.) If someone is at L-1 and you believe they are scum, instead of voting for them, you can instead give a bold

intent to hammer

warning. Giving intent to hammer means that you intend to finish the lynch, unless the player about to be lynched can somehow sway you or others voting to lynch them. It is generally considered proper form to allow that person time to say what they would like before following through with a vote to seal the lynch.

So those are the things that seem to come up most frequently. Don't be afraid to ask questions if you have them, and just set aside any anxiety you might have. We're all here to have fun and play the game, and in that spirit: let's have a great one!

One final note: When it comes to questions about the game, I will always give you the best answer I can. There are a lot of bits of theory about different parts of the game, so there may be times where I will explain something as I understand it. While I will never deliberately lie to you when I am answering questions, please be aware that I had the same chance to be assigned to the scum team as everyone else.

In other words; don't just give me your blind trust because I'm being helpful. You shouldn't do that for any player, but you should most definitely not do it for an IC since we volunteer to help make the newbie games open and accessible, and in that spirit, nearly all ICs will generally be very pleasant and helpful.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:36 pm

Vote: Drixx

Because I assume he is not listed right above me.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:41 pm

Okay I've done some more research and I can confirm that Drixx is indeed not above me.
Please refer to the following diagram:

Here you will see the playerlist for this game.

On the playerlist, circled in red and underlined you will see my name.
Above me [indicated by the green arrow], you will see the player Transcend and below me [indicated by the orange arrow], you will see the player Drixx.
I believe I have unequivocally proven that my RVS is sound to a degree that Drixx has not and would appreciate it if people could support me.

Thank you.

Drixx · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:44 pm

Super LOL Cheetory. This should be fun!

Plotinus · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:46 pm

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Cheetory6 · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:48 pm

I think it looks quite sharp in a good way!

Transcend · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:36 pm

VOTE: xSoniaNevermindx

Also I'm an SE. I have a few games under my belt. Hi.

Map Wolf · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:14 pm

Hey everyone, this is my first game on MS, but i do have somewhat of a plan for how i am going to play.

VOTE: Zyf
Because their name is too short.

Zyf · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:27 am

LMAO cheet and drixx
VOTE: Cheet for being too popular

So, to sonia/map wolf/smiles/frogoos-what's your general experience playing mafia (esp. forum)? I just find it's good info to have.
This is my second/third mafia game ever.

Zyf · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:55 am

In post 12, Map Wolf wrote:Hey everyone, this is my first game on MS, but i do have somewhat of a plan for how i am going to play.

VOTE: Zyf
Because their name is too short.

"I have a plan for how I am going to play"
That's pretty much a given in any mafia game, except their are two main times where a pregame plan is extra important.
1) You're a PR
2) *You're scum*

The fact that you find it necessary to state you have a plan makes me think you put a notable chunk of effort in creating it and therefore are proud of it. But the thing is, scum needs full-on planning, while a PR can only go so far without the game started yet, due to a lower amount of information.

VOTE: mw
Also your nickname is shorter than mine so you're scummier than me since your nickname is even shorter

Zyf · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:55 am

gdi second post in and already a typo
*except

there

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Cheetory6 · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:34 am

hi Zyf!
I would like you to give me some words on this whole "plan"-thing. Specifically, I'd like you articulate whether you think Map Wolf would, as scum, say "I have a plan" referring to their scum plan.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:35 am

Also, I have exactly one townread right now!!!!

Zyf · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:51 am

In post 16, Cheetory6 wrote:hi Zyf!
I would like you to give me some words on this whole "plan"-thing. Specifically, I'd like you articulate whether you think Map Wolf would, as scum, say "I have a plan" referring to their scum plan.

It's not so much that they have a specific reason for citing that they have a scum plan, it's that in pregame there is virtually no merit in attempting to create such a plan (with enough work put in to want to say that you have one) unless you're scum, because then the game is solved for you and you're trying to survive with your partner.
iirc, most mafia threads are open in pregame.

Cheet I'm guessing your townread is yourself

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:08 am

VOTE: Vote Transcend

Hello Hello everyone it's nice to meet you all and I am so ready for my first game on mafia scum now this isn't my first game on a forum mind you but it's gonna take me a bit to understand all of the lingo so whoops on that but I hope we can all have a great game
(Vote Transcend with me)

Zyf · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:10 am

In post 19, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Vote Transcend

Hello Hello everyone it's nice to meet you all and I am so ready for my first game on mafia scum now this isn't my first game on a forum mind you but it's gonna take me a bit to understand all of the lingo so whoops on that but I hope we can all have a great game
(Vote Transcend with me)

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... reviations
Ta-da.

Transcend · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:10 am

failvote and omgus

conf scum

gogogogogogogogogo

Transcend · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:12 am

In post 12, Map Wolf wrote:Hey everyone, this is my first game on MS, but i do have somewhat of a plan for how i am going to play.

VOTE: Zyf
Because their name is too short.

care to give us an idea about how you're going to play?

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:13 am

In post 20, Zyf wrote:
In post 19, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:VOTE: Vote Transcend

Hello Hello everyone it's nice to meet you all and I am so ready for my first game on mafia scum now this isn't my first game on a forum mind you but it's gonna take me a bit to understand all of the lingo so whoops on that but I hope we can all have a great game
(Vote Transcend with me)
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... reviations
Ta-da.

Why Thank you very much this will come in hand and to Trans please it's not omgus I have a scumread on you that I can write 50 pages on if I wanted I can't wait to see how people scumhunt on here compared to others this has me giddy

Transcend · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:13 am

In post 14, Zyf wrote:
In post 12, Map Wolf wrote:Hey everyone, this is my first game on MS, but i do have somewhat of a plan for how i am going to play.

VOTE: Zyf
Because their name is too short.
"I have a plan for how I am going to play"
That's pretty much a given in any mafia game, except their are two main times where a pregame plan is extra important.
1) You're a PR
2) *You're scum*

The fact that you find it necessary to state you have a plan makes me think you put a notable chunk of effort in creating it and therefore are proud of it. But the thing is, scum needs full-on planning, while a PR can only go so far without the game started yet, due to a lower amount of information.

VOTE: mw
Also your nickname is shorter than mine so you're scummier than me since your nickname is even shorter

gross