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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:33 pm

Newbie 1756: Balloon

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Spoiler:
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Player List:
1. Accountant (IC)
2. JaeReed (SE) Charloux
3. Manuel87 zaragui, MonkeyKebab
4. Morning Tweet
5. MisaTange nalsco
6. mhsmith0 NorskaBlue
7. ThinkBig thatsit
8. Loopdan (SE) Transcend
9. WeCanSimplyBeOurselves

Alive:
Spoiler:
1. Accountant, Mafia Goon
3. Manuel87, Mafia Roleblocker


Dead:
Spoiler:
5. MisaTange, Vanilla Townie, was lynched Day 1.
9. WeCanSimplyBeOurselves, Town Cop, was killed Night 1.
7. ThinkBig, Vanilla Townie, was lynched Day 2.
2. JaeReed, Town Doctor, was killed Night 2.
4. Morning Tweet, Vanilla Townie, was lynched Day 3.
8. Loopdan, Vanilla Townie, was endgamed Day 3.
6. mhsmith0, Vanilla Townie, was endgamed Day 3.


Modkilled:
Spoiler:


Events:
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:39 pm

Rules

General
  1. Site-wide rules, as always, apply here.
  2. I reserve the right to change any of the following rules at any time. I will also inform the players in thread and via PM in the unlikely scenario in which this is required.
  3. This list is not necessarily all-inclusive. If you're unsure whether or not something is allowed, please PM me about it.
  4. Disregarding the rules may result in consequences up to and including modkill and/or force-replacement.
  5. There is to be NO PRIVATE OR OUTSIDE OF THREAD COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER PLAYERS IN THIS GAME ABOUT THIS GAME AT ANY TIME
  6. If you need to talk to me in thread, please use bold. Additionally, feel free to PM me with any questions you might have.
  7. Please do not use hidden or encrypted text.
  8. Play to win.
  9. Please treat your fellow players with respect. At the same time, please try not to take comments personally whenever possible.
  10. Please allow for your fellow players to go V/LA.
  11. Please keep me in the loop about your own V/LA status.
  12. Purple is my color. Please do not use purple.
  13. Have Fun!

Gameplay
  1. The following vote formats are the de-facto standard on the site (aka votes should be enclosed with vote tags or bold tags. I don't care about caps/spelling/etc.)
    • VOTE: borkjerfkin
    • Vote: borkjerfkin
  2. UNVOTE: / unvote declarations are valid to remove your vote, but are not required in order to change it.
  3. If it appears to be a vote for a player, I will treat it as a vote for a player. Please don't attempt to fool me or other players with regard to fake votes. Do not put votes in spoiler tags.
  4. A lynch is achieved when half plus one of the current number of living players are voting for the same player. If this does not occur by deadline, a No Lynch will occur -- there is no plurality lynch in this game.
  5. Twilight is the time between the 'hammer' vote being cast and the beginning of the night phase. All living players, including the most recent lynchee, may talk during this time.
  6. Players' alignments will be revealed on death.
  7. When killed, a player may make one informationless 'bah' post at the beginning of the next day phase and must be silent thereon until the conclusion of the game.
  8. Please submit all night actions either via your private topic if you have one, or by PM if you do not.
  9. If you have a night action and do not submit one, you will not take an action. I will not resolve your action on a random person.
  10. Player List is ordered alphabetically by the initial players' names.
  11. Role distribution is guaranteed to be random, determined with the aid of random.org

Deadlines
  1. Days will be exactly two weeks long. Extensions may be granted at my discretion for what I feel are extenuating circumstances.
  2. Nights will be exactly two days (48 hours) long.
  3. Players will be prodded after 48 hours of inactivity during the day, excepting V/LA circumstances.
  4. Failure to pick up a prod in 24 hours will result in replacement. Asking for replacement will result in replacement.

IC and SE Guidelines
The purpose of the IC (Inexperience-Challenged) and SE(Semi-Experienced) players in this game is to help newbies understand how the game is played on mafiascum.net. If you have any questions about abbreviations, etiquette, mafia theory, etc., do not hesitate to ask your IC. Newbie games are meant to be educational. That said, remember the following things:
  1. Because roles were assigned randomly, do not assume that your IC or SE players are town. They will provide you good theory-based information regardless of their alignment, but they are no more likely to be town than any other player in the game.
  2. There are no stupid questions! If you are unclear about any mafia-related questions ask your IC in thread. The answer to your questions will likely be helpful to everyone in the game.
  3. The tells and advice listed in the wiki, though useful, will only get you so far. Your IC and SE should be vastly more helpful than the wiki, as they will always be up-to-date.
  4. Generally, gameplay and strategy related questions should go to your IC, while logistical questions should go to me. Any potentially role-revealing clarification questions should go directly to me via PM.
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:40 pm

Setup
This game uses the Matrix6 setup.

One of the six following setups will be generated (each is based on 3 "special roles" in a row or column in the matrix, after which 5 Vanilla Townies and 1 Mafia Goon are added.)

  • [Top Row] 2 Mafia Goons Vs. 6 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town Jailkeeper
  • [Middle Row] 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker Vs. 5 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor
  • [Bottom Row] 2 Mafia Goons Vs. 5 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town 1-Shot Bulletproof, 1 Town Tracker
  • [Left Column] 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker Vs. 5 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town Jailkeeper, 1 Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
  • [Center Column] 2 Mafia Goons Vs. 6 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town Cop
  • [Right Column] 2 Mafia Goons Vs. 5 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town Doctor, 1 Town Tracker

The PMs for every possible role are listed below:

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Vanilla Townie!

Abilities:
  • None

Win condition:
  • All threats to the Town are eliminated.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.



Spoiler: Town Cop
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Town Cop!

Abilities:
  • Investigate: Each night, you may send me the name of another player to discern his or her alignment. If your action succeeds, I will respond with one of the following at the end of the night:
    • <Your Target> is Innocent
    • <Your Target> is Guilty
    If your action is blocked, I will respond with:
    • You were unable to discern <Your Target>'s alignment

Win condition:
  • All threats to the Town are eliminated.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.



Spoiler: Town Doctor
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Town Doctor!

Abilities:
  • Protect: Each night, you may send me the name of another player. If your action succeeds, this player will be protected from any attempt made to kill him or her the same night.

Win condition:
  • All threats to the Town are eliminated.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.



Spoiler: Town Jailkeeper
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Town Jailkeeper!

Abilities:
  • Jail: Each night, you may send me the name of another player. If your action succeeds, this player will be both protected from any attempt made to kill him or her the same night AND prevented from using any active ability themselves. Note that any non-killing action that targets this player will not be affected by your jail. If there is a Mafia Roleblocker in the game, that player's action resolves BEFORE yours.

Win condition:
  • All threats to the Town are eliminated.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.



Spoiler: Town Tracker
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Town Tracker!

Abilities:
  • Track: Each night, you may send me the name of another player to discern his or her alignment. If your action succeeds, I will respond with the name of the player your target visited last night.

    If your action is blocked, I will respond with:
    • You were unable to discern who <Your Target> visited.

Win condition:
  • All threats to the Town are eliminated.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.



Spoiler: Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Town 1-Shot Bulletproof!

Abilities:
  • Bulletproof: If you would die from a kill, this ability will instead be consumed. Any further attempts on your life will not be affected by this ability. You will not be informed when this ability has been consumed.

Win condition:
  • All threats to the Town are eliminated.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.



Spoiler: Mafia Goon w/ Goon Partner
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Mafia Goon!

Abilities:
  • Factional Communication: Each night, you may communicate with the rest of your team, which consists of:
    • YYYYYYY, Mafia Goon
    in this private topic.
  • Factional Kill: Each night, you may designate one member of your team to attempt to kill a non-member of your team. If your action succeeds, this player will die at the end of the night.

Win condition:
  • The number of living Mafia equals or exceeds the number of living Town, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.


Spoiler: Mafia Goon w/ Roleblocker Partner
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Mafia Goon!

Abilities:
  • Factional Communication: Each night, you may communicate with the rest of your team, which consists of:
    • YYYYYYY, Mafia Roleblocker
    in this private topic.
  • Factional Kill: Each night, you may designate one member of your team to attempt to kill a non-member of your team. If your action succeeds, this player will die at the end of the night.

Win condition:
  • The number of living Mafia equals or exceeds the number of living Town, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.


Spoiler: Mafia Roleblocker
Hello XXXXXXX, and Welcome to [GAME]!

You are a Mafia Roleblocker!

Abilities:
  • Factional Communication: Each night, you may communicate with the rest of your team, which consists of:
    • YYYYYYY, Mafia Goon
    in this private topic.
  • Factional Kill: Each night, you may designate one member of your team to attempt to kill a non-member of your team. If your action succeeds, this player will die at the end of the night.
  • Roleblock: Each night, only you may send me the name of another player. This player will be prevented from using any active abilities the same night. If there is a Town Jailkeeper in the game, that player's action resolves AFTER yours.
    Using this ability does not conflict with your ability to perform the factional kill.

Win condition:
  • The number of living Mafia equals or exceeds the number of living Town, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Game thread: [LINK]

Please confirm by replying to this PM with your full role name.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:45 pm

Role PMs are going out soon all out.

Game will begin with 8/9 confirmations.
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:56 pm

Hi guys, just updating: we still do not have a quorum yet with which to start play.

If after 72 hours (site policy) of sending role PMs we have unconfirmed players, I will replace those players. Thank you for your patience.
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:12 pm

Update 2: 7/9 players are confirmed. Less than 24 hours until I start replacing the remaining slots. Game will begin if I get another confirmation. Thank you for your patience.
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:55 am

Thank you for your patience. Day 1 is starting now.
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:58 am

Votecount 1.0

[9] Not Voting (Accountant, Charloux, MonkeyKebab, Morning Tweet, nalsco, NorskaBlue, thatsit, Transcend, WeCanSimplyBeOurselves)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-11-27 00:00:00)
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:50 am


Hi, I’m Accountant, your friendly neighbourhood Inexperience-Challenged player, or IC. This means that I have a few games under my belt, so I know the ins and outs of mafia and can show you the ropes. For those of you who hate reading long rants, or have read a similar post already, check out the link:
A Beginner’s Guide to Being Awesome At Mafia
Anyway, as the IC, it’s my job to teach you theory concepts, which means I will never lie about theory questions. Ever.
Before we start the game proper, I’d like to cover a few key concepts.


Hammering, Lynching and L-1
When the number of votes on a player exceeds half the number of players for that game, that player is lynched instantly and the Day ends. For example, we have 9 players. If that means the hammer is 5, so if there were to be 5 votes on someone, that player would be lynched. Do not recklessly hammer, especially early in the game, or you’ll risk accidentally lynching town members and cutting short discussion time.
The concept of L-X is used to indicate how many votes a player is to hammer. L-1 means 1 vote to hammer, L-2 means 2 votes to hammer and so forth. So for this game, if someone were to get 4 votes, they would be at L-1. When you place the vote that puts someone at L-1(for example, if someone has 3 votes and you’re putting the 4th vote down, with a hammer of 5), you should usually announce it with a statement like “He’s at L-1”, so people don’t accidentally hammer. Even more importantly, it means that mafia can’t hammer a town member and then claim ignorance the next day.
If someone is at L-1 and you want to hammer him, you should usually state “intent to hammer”, which means “I want to lynch you”. When you do this, you can also ask for a role claim. That way, if the player is a power role being mislynched, he can claim before you place the hammering vote, and thus save himself.


LyLo
LyLo is the shortened form of a phrase which means “lynch or lose”. The simplest form of LyLo is 3 players, 2 of whom are vanilla townies and the last being a mafia goon. Then, it’s easy to see that if they do not lynch, the mafia goon will kill one of them at night, stalemating the lynch the next day, and killing the last town member on Night 2 – although the mod will usually recognize this and end the game early instead of dragging it out.
When town is in LyLo, it’s important not to carelessly vote like you would on any other day, because of the potential for a mafia coordinated hammer(a “quickhammer”, happening before anyone else can react). Let’s say we have LyLo with 3 Vanilla Townies and 2 Mafia Goons. One of the vanilla townie carelessly puts his vote on another VT. This allows the two mafia goons to instantly rush in and simultaneously vote that VT, bringing his vote count to 3 in a game of 5 players, which is a hammer and loss for the town.
It’s good practice to try to recognize LyLo situations when you see them, but in Newbie games a more experienced player will usually point out that it’s LyLo and caution people from recklessly voting. Learning how to deal with LyLo is a very important part of playing mafia, and it comes up more often than you might think.


RVS
We are currently in the RVS, or Random Voting Stage. As none of us has any idea who is mafia(well, except the mafia members themselves, but they’re hardly going to admit it), we’re mostly poking around and slinging votes like hot curry at a food fight, trying to provoke reactions, start a discussion and basically probe around to try and determine player’s alignments.
As it is the Random Voting Stage, it’s common for players to vote for very silly reasons, such as “your avatar is ugly” or “your username has too many numbers in it”. Don’t worry, they don’t have a grudge against you or anything. It’s just part of RVS. Without RVS, it would be a lot harder to get the game moving.


Conclusion
Thank you for joining this newbie game, and I hope that all of us will have fun playing, win or lose. If you have any questions at all, feel free to ask me. I’m an IC, so it’s my job to be active and respond to questions from newer players. I live in Singapore, which makes my timezone GMT+8, so don’t be surprised if I answer in the middle of the night or appear to be inactive at high noon(I’m probably sleeping).

Have fun and good luck!


- Accountant
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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:58 am

VOTE: Morning Tweet

Down with Twitter! All hail Instagram!
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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:29 am

You wouldn't believe it, but that's the first vote I've ever received (after playing a prior game on this site). How exciting!
Accountant wrote:Down with Twitter! All hail Instagram!
However, this is unacceptable and I will not tolerate it.
VOTE: Accountant

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:42 am

How did you go an entire game without getting voted? o.o
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:57 am

Alright, lets do this. Cheers for ICing us Accountant. Hope we newbies don't disappoint.

Now, I believe this is first stage is when we throw wild accusations around for flimsy reasons, correct?

VOTE: thatsit

because this isn't it. It's just begun.

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:59 am

VOTE: Accountant

U kno why
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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:23 am

Guys cmon, why can't we all just get along? Be more humane than mafia or there would be no point in this!
OH i see a cannibal here VOTE: MonkeyKebab
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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:24 am

And no, you're not a monkey, but we evolved from monkeys, so, yeah... close enough!
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:15 am

In post 11, Accountant wrote:How did you go an entire game without getting voted? o.o
First I was lucky, then I was townread, then the three remaining townies wanted each other's heads, making me the only mutual townread.

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:22 am

In post 16, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 11, Accountant wrote:How did you go an entire game without getting voted? o.o
First I was lucky, then I was townread, then the three remaining townies wanted each other's heads, making me the only mutual townread.

Any prior experience with mafia other than that one game? Also: were you scum that game? The way you phrased it ("three remaining townies") made it seem like you were.
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:35 am

iirc, they got nominated for a scummy by titus b/c they played so well
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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:58 am

Good to know. I get so used to assuming that all newbies are actually new at mafia that when I see an obvtown newbie I often forget to consider the possibility that I'm being played.
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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:28 pm

Same.

Been played too many times.

Not happening this time.
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"Transcend. Well done. You wade through oceans of shitposts and even shittier logic to find the pearl of the lying scumfucks. Good job." - DiamondSentinel

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:44 pm

There a link to that game? Sounds pretty awesome.

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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:31 pm

Replacing MonkeyKebab
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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:42 pm

zaragui replaces MonkeyKebab.
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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:48 pm

In post 17, Accountant wrote:
In post 16, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 11, Accountant wrote:How did you go an entire game without getting voted? o.o
First I was lucky, then I was townread, then the three remaining townies wanted each other's heads, making me the only mutual townread.

Any prior experience with mafia other than that one game? Also: were you scum that game? The way you phrased it ("three remaining townies") made it seem like you were.
I've played mafia for a while now, just not on this site. I wasn't very truthful about that when introducing myself in that game, though. Yes, I was scum (along with a second newbie).

That being said, I really wasn't that good. I don't want my previous game to affect how I'm viewed in this one. Plus, I don't have any "real" scumhunting experience yet, so I think I'll be learning more in this game than I did in my first.

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