Newbie 1767 | Winter | Endgame

[SensFan]

Asked by lucca and answered: intentionally messed up.

[Sickofit1138]

my reads for scum are lucca, sens, and Fred.... from scummiest to least scummiest

[SensFan]

Sickofit: Your top two scumreads are lucca and I? Is that a scumpairing in your mind, or mutually exclusive?

[Sickofit1138]

Lucca has been very wishywashy and his posts are all filler... and he says everyone is weird and suspicious and racted weakly to pressure. i would be most comfortable with his lynch today.
SensFan is... idk mostly a gut read here and i don't like that hammer. At all.
Fred seems to be not contributing... but i see him posting a lot it just seems as if hes background noise and filling the space. with nothing

[Sickofit1138]

Sickofit: Your top two scumreads are lucca and I? Is that a scumpairing in your mind, or mutually exclusive?

individual scumreads im not doing accosiatives quite yet.

[Sickofit1138]

TheBrie is also 100% town here, this is not a newb scum talking as loopdan pointed out

[Sickofit1138]

why was there a no-kill? If there was a bulletproof that was hit please claim.

[Sickofit1138]

If there is a doctor in this setup what are the advantages/disadvantages of them claiming?

[Sickofit1138]

so, since when I am a scumread of you? what are your thoughts on fred, loopdan?

nice deflection

[Sickofit1138]

by the way i'm going to get a seizure next time i see Fred's Avi.

Not joking.

[SensFan]

Woah hold up. No one should claim.

[Loopdan]

@sickofit-- I knew I had a good feeling about your slot. I'm calling you up to the townbloc.

Scum is in:
Rask
Huntress
Fred
lucca

Also nobody should claim unless put at L-1 with an intent to hammer

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@Huntress - In your role as IC, would you mind explaining optimal town play regarding town PR claims?

[SensFan]

Sickofit: Your top two scumreads are lucca and I? Is that a scumpairing in your mind, or mutually exclusive?

individual scumreads im not doing accosiatives quite yet.

If I flipped Scum, would that make lucca look more or less likely to be Scum?
If lucca flipped Scum, would that make me look more or less likely to be Scum?

[Sickofit1138]

Why shouldn't bulletproof claim in this set up if they were hit? They are just a VT now.

[Sickofit1138]

Sickofit: Your top two scumreads are lucca and I? Is that a scumpairing in your mind, or mutually exclusive?

individual scumreads

im not doing accosiatives quite yet.

If I flipped Scum, would that make lucca look more or less likely to be Scum?
If lucca flipped Scum, would that make me look more or less likely to be Scum?

[Sickofit1138]

I mean I understand doctor not claiming would be good but why not BP? Waiting for L-1 to claim BP does nothing.

[SensFan]

Sickofit: Your top two scumreads are lucca and I? Is that a scumpairing in your mind, or mutually exclusive?

individual scumreads

im not doing accosiatives quite yet.

If I flipped Scum, would that make lucca look more or less likely to be Scum?
If lucca flipped Scum, would that make me look more or less likely to be Scum?

I'm not asking you to associate two people who are alive and you don't know their roles.

Assume I get modkilled right now and flip Scum. You know 100% I was Scum this game. What would your thoughts on lucca be?
Likewise for if lucca got modkilled and flipped Scum. What would your thoughts on me be?

[SensFan]

Why shouldn't bulletproof claim in this set up if they were hit? They are just a VT now.

For one, the hypothetical Bulletproof would be closer to an Innocent Child than a VT.
For two, it gives Scum more information about the setup than it does us.
For three, they could be lying.
And for four, based on a cursory wording of the PMs they don't know if they were hit.

[Loopdan]

I mean I understand doctor not claiming would be good but why not BP? Waiting for L-1 to claim BP does nothing.

A BP claim after a no-kill night tells scum more than it tells town.

[SensFan]

hurr durr Loopdan stop sheeping Sens.

Am I doing that right?

[Sickofit1138]

Hmm I disagree. I'm not gonna push it though.

[Sickofit1138]

Sickofit: Your top two scumreads are lucca and I? Is that a scumpairing in your mind, or mutually exclusive?

individual scumreads

im not doing accosiatives quite yet.

If I flipped Scum, would that make lucca look more or less likely to be Scum?
If lucca flipped Scum, would that make me look more or less likely to be Scum?

I'm not asking you to associate two people who are alive and you don't know their roles.

Assume I get modkilled right now and flip Scum. You know 100% I was Scum this game. What would your thoughts on lucca be?
Likewise for if lucca got modkilled and flipped. Scum. What would your thoughts on me be?

I don't see anything that makes you likely buddies or unlikely buddies. If you flipped scum I would still push my Luca lynch

[lucca261]

preparing a big post right now. let's go.

[TheBrie]

@Sickofit I'm figuring you can't see what your predecessor saw in Rask? And since you're of a different opinion, why haven't you changed your vote?

A BP shouldn't claim, because if there is a BP, there could be a jailkeeper who could have blocked the Mafia. And doctors almost never want to claim.

@Loopdan you put Rask as backup town then a little later said Rask was more likely scummy. I admit I'm uncertain on Rask too, but could you explain that? Also where is your town read on Sensfan coming from?

Lucca is now seeming more scummy than Huntress.
VOTE: Lucca

[lucca261]

lucca and huntress have been the two that have stood out to me as particularly scummy in the early parts of today. Huntress in particular seems super eager to put all of a D1 lynch on one person, and has been around the block way too much to seriously think that 'one time someone did this thing and was Scum' is at all relevant.

TheBrie is super raw, which is making it hard for me to read her. For now I think I'm willing to put her in the Town pile until a bit later, but plan on looking back at her stances on people when we get more flips. I think she's the least likely to have been able to look natural as Scum looking back in hindsight on stuff like a Scum wagon.

Loopdan and I seem to naturally be on the same page on most/all issues, which makes me inclined he's looking at the game sincerely.

I don't feel like I have a good grasp on Fred/Selynee/Rask right now, though I should go back. I feel like I remember finding Fred suspicious on D1 and I'm not sure why.

Don't like this post. You have zero substance reads, save for Loopdan.

So you have four null reads, Loopdan as town, me as scum without explaining it and Huntress as scum because she put the hammer exclusively on you? You explain the total of two reads. All the other ones are unexplained.

This "readslist" feels like you are trying too hard to make your options open. If you need to ever vote one of your four null votes, by this, you can just say "Hey, I re-read then and they're scum".

Meanwhile, my vote goes to my largest scumread.
VOTE: SensFan

Can you explain why you're voting SensFan? Why is he scummy to you?

@Sens & @Brie -- Let's townbloc this for the win. Requesting more votes on lucca.

@Rask & @Sickofit -- You are the backup townbloc. Be prepared to be called up if the situation deteriorates.

@Huntress, @Fred, @Lucca -- sry fam

Your townblock is Sens and Brie. Can you explain your sudden realization that Brie is Newbie Town?