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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:45 pm
by Oman
I've altered the "offending" rule to be more in line with it's intent (even though it feels soft and ambiguous to me). Hopefully this clears up the issues that have come from it.
The policy has also been added to the first page.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:56 pm
by Lord Gurgi
Now that I think about it,
Nominate sirdanilot for sirwhinesalot
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Consider that there is an advantage in reducing the number of nominations for titles. When everyone feels fine nominating whatever just popped into their head five seconds ago, it dilutes the quality of the process. I think Oman's original ruleset was superior, and that it should have been given time to prove itself.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:50 pm
by Ythan
How does a greater volume of nominations have any negative effect?
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:17 pm
by Lord Gurgi
Ythan wrote:How does a greater volume of nominations have any negative effect?
Quantity of titles suggested has been a problem in the past.
Quality will go up if people put more thought into what they are suggesting. Very few pun titles are clever enough to be worthwhile. Of the pun titles that are good, I would say that most have other characteristics that make them appropriate for being a title. The pun just makes it funny. We should be trying to make primarily meaningful titles, secondarily funny ones.
Quantity is opposed to that.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:34 am
by sirdanilot
Oman, any title that is 'good' should be allowed, whether it's crammed into a pun or not. I thought part of your job was to judge if its good or not? Why are you using that as an argument? And plenty of people gave their opinion.
It's dumb to just put up your policy and refusing to change it further, even though an obviously illogical element is part of it.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:01 am
by Oman
sirdanilot wrote:Oman, any title that is 'good' should be allowed, whether it's crammed into a pun or not. I thought part of your job was to judge if its good or not? Why are you using that as an argument? And plenty of people gave their opinion.
It's dumb to just put up your policy and refusing to change it further, even though an obviously illogical element is part of it.
I'm so glad you're keeping up here. It's obvious that you're not spending any time on this other than the 30 seconds it takes you to type the post, and it really shows.
The major point is that the policy was altered, I never refused to change it. I even said to ani "if you can give me a solution i'll implement" (I ended up going for a variation of Flay's "usually" solution). I altered the policy, such an "obviously illogical element".
The secondary point is that I'm done with you right now. If you're going to put forward falsities such as this, you're going to lose my respect, and you're likely going to look stupid to other people too.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:38 am
by dahill1
Lol all this new power has totally gone to Oman's head.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:41 am
by Porochaz
As I thought about this and because I saw ani agreeing with me as soon as I posted I had a rethink of my opinion. I understand where your coming from but username and avi based titles have been good in certain cases before. I think your revision to rule 3 reflects this and am happy with the change implemented.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:58 am
by sirdanilot
dahill1 wrote:Lol all this new power has totally gone to Oman's head.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:15 am
by Mr. Flay
Thank you for considering (and implementing) the change. I do think most pun/avi titles are dumb, but occasionally they shine. Like someone else said upthread, usually because they have some other element that makes them better than a straight pun, which is why your wording looked to me like a "no matter how good the title is, the presence of a pun will invalidate it". I'm glad your internal view was more nuanced than that.
Cheers.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:40 am
by Thestatusquo
shaft.eds title is a good example.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:43 am
by Ether
Shafted's title is a good example of a perfectly good title that somebody decided to fuck up by throwing in a period.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:06 pm
by Papa Zito
Ether wrote:Shafted's title is a good example of a perfectly good title that somebody decided to fuck up by throwing in a period.
The period helps make the joke because it lets the "demo" part stand out more, in addition to being a play on his username.
Plum's "forbidden fruit" is another example.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:34 pm
by Lord Gurgi
These are all examples of titles that were otherwise funny, someone just found a way to make it into a pun as well. Starting the other way around I have not heard of.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:26 pm
by Oman
Yeah Flay, I do apologise that it was presented in such a way. Thanks for your assistance in dealing with it.