[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

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Post Post #81 (isolation #0) » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:35 pm

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It sounds sorta like reverse mafia in a sense.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #1) » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:21 am

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More 5 player setups

1 Lyncher with target Townie
1 Mafia
3 Townies

If target is lynched, game is immediately over and Lyncher wins. If target is night killed, the Lyncher joins the side of the town but the town is not informed. The Town must kill both the Mafia AND the Lyncher if the Lyncher's target is still alive to win.


Setup #2 from Troj from BGG

1 Mafia
1 Spy
1 Cop
1 Hunter
1 Townie

The Bad Guys: 1 Mafia (Werewolf) and 1 Spy (Sorcerer).

The Mafia can nightkill, as usual. The Spy can investigate one person each night and find out if that person is the Cop. The Mafia and Spy are on the same team, but they don't know who each other are. Since only the Mafia can nightkill, the bad guys lose immediately if the Mafia is lynched.

The Good Guys: 1 Cop (Seer), 1 Hunter, and 1 Townie (Villager).

The Cop investigates one person each night and finds out if they are the Mafia (the Cop can't detect the Spy). The Hunter has a special endgame ability: if the Hunter and the Mafia are the final two alive, the Hunter automatically kills the Mafia, winning the game for the town. The Townie, of course, has no abilities.

The game starts with night, but only for the Cop/Spy investigations: the Mafia can't kill until night 2. Roles are NOT revealed upon death. The town wins if the Mafia is lynched or if the Mafia and Hunter are the final two; otherwise, the bad guys win.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #2) » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:53 pm

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I was planning to run this as a Normal Open Setup and was running setup by Glork and TSQ and Glork suggested I post here:

Pair Mafia

20 players

4 Mafia
8 Townies
4 Reds
4 Blues

Mafia Win Condition:
-To outnumber the Townies
AND
-To have all Reds and Blues leave the game

Townie Win Condition:
-To have all the Mafia dead and at least one Townie still alive

Red/Blue Win Condition:
-Get your partner lynched, you will both leave the game when this happens
OR
-Have you AND your partner still alive when all the Mafia are lynched
BUT
-If either one of you is nightkilled, you both lose immediately and will both leave the game

The Reds and Blues cannot talk at night at the moment.
This should be a day start


Possible tweaks are 3 mafia, a Cop instead of a Townie or possible other power roles, less R/B pairs maybe.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:06 am

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Thok wrote:What happens when there are 4 Mafia, 2 R and 2 B and no townies left during day? That seems like it should be an auto win for the mafia and an autoloss for the remaining R/B pairs, but it's unclear given what you've posted.
Autowin for Mafia as the endgame the rest.
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:12 am

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Nominate

Setup A

1 Godfather
3 Mafia

1 Cop
1 Doc
1 Nurse
1 Backup Nurse
4 Townies (One randomly is a Miller)

Either start depending on balance

Setup B

1 Godfather
2 Mafia

1 Cop
1 Doc
1 Nurse
1 Backup Nurse
5 Townies (One randomly is a Miller)

Nightstart, Mafia killed roles are revealed to mafia but NOT town
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Post Post #2058 (isolation #5) » Sun May 04, 2008 11:32 am

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Trojan Horse wrote:That's basically the same as:

2 scum lovers
4 townies
Nightless

Except that with your setup, you're basically playing double-headed (two players controlling each role). Rather just play it with 6.
Wrong, Adel's setup is more balanced.

Assuming the scum lovers never vote each other, in your setup, all of the town need to agree on the same person to get them lynched. In Adel's setup, all of the town minus one need to agree if the scum lovers never vote each other but with 4 people, they have to vote each other sometimes or it'll be much easier to catch.
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Post Post #2061 (isolation #6) » Sun May 04, 2008 11:55 am

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Trojan Horse wrote:And the scum don't have to "vote each other sometimes" in the 6 player version? Sounds the same to me.
No as a person feeling someone else is town and not voting them in a 6 player game is quite common while a group of 4 never voting each other in a 12 player game is quite rare.
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #7) » Sun May 18, 2008 8:08 am

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Nominate

2 Vigs
3 Mafia who do not know each other and do not have a kill

Daystart

Mafia have to kill all Town, Town have to kill all Mafia
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Post Post #2102 (isolation #8) » Sun May 18, 2008 11:02 am

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Yeah I just realized my game worked better as a Closed Setup (which it was when I ran it in scumchat)
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #9) » Sun May 18, 2008 12:55 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:Yeah I just realized my game worked better as a Closed Setup (which it was when I ran it in scumchat)
massclaim pretty much broke it though, once the two vigs realized what was going on
uh no, if gorrad didnt think he had a kill you two wouldve vigged each other and lost
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