[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

How about this?

1 Mafia NK-Immune Godfather
1 Mafia Goon

1 NK-Immune 50% SK

2 50% Vigilantes
1 Bulletproof Townie
6 Townies

Night start.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

How about

Monarchy Mafia

?

3x King's Guard (Standard Townies, know who the King is)
1x King (Townie)
3x Queen's Guard (Standard Townies, know who the Queen is)
1x Queen (Townie)
3x Assassin (Have one suicidial day/twilightkill, know who the Royal Heir is)
1x Royal Heir (Scum)

Nightless.

Scum wins when the king and queen are dead, town wins when the royal heir is dead.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Oh, but they don't know who EACH other are. Nevermind.

Yup, that's basically the clue. I thought about having the King and Queen know each other, but I think that would help the town too much.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Speed Mafia

1 Kill-Immune Mafia GF
2 Mafia Goon
1 SK
8 Townies

SK can kill during the day, once each week, but can't kill at night.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

I'm only wondering if the sk should get a kill at the start of a game, or one week into the game.

EDIT: I'm leaning towards the latter, to reduce randomness.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Innocence

2 Mafia
1 Sane Cop
1 Naive Cop
6 Townies

Hmm.. I'd like this better.
2 Mafia
1 Sane Cop
1 Insane Cop
5 Townies

Without sanity reveal on death.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Since this game was rejected last time for being AITP, but AITP was allowed since then, I'll try to submit this setup again.

Monarchy Mafia

1x King (No abilities, knows who the Queen is)
4x King's Guard (No abilities, know who the King is)
1x Queen (No abilities, knows who the King is)
4x Queen's Guard (No abilities, know who the Queen is)
2x Assassin (Can suicide-kill one player during day or twilight. If one assassin is dead, and both the king and the queen are still alive, the last assassin will be able to sui-kill two players)

Assassins win when the King and Queen are dead. Townies win when the Assassins are dead, and King, Queen or both are still alive.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Second Day Vig Nightless

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Contagion Open

2 Mafia, 7 Town

Nightless, first day is normal, from that point on the lynchee becomes kingmaker for the next period, and dies thereafter, like in Skruffs' game.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

That's not fun.

3 vigs
4 mafia without a kill

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Polygamist Mafia 2.0

3 Mafia Goons, 8 Vanilla Townies

Every player may choose to fall in love with another player during the night, making the player and his or her target effectively lovers. All players can have multiple lovers. Day start.

It's probably broken, too.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

The problem I have with 2.0 is that people could 'chain'. Ofcourse, nightstart prevents this, but I think everyone would be everyone's lover in the end, and everyone would lose.

But then again, that should teach the players that polygamy is bad.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

You should call it

Friends and Enemies and Enemies

.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Mayor Open

3 Mafia
8 Townies
1 Mayor (Double vote that can be use to double-lynch)

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

The town cannot win, only hope to get converted safely

Why not just lynch all three the cult leaders? I don't like the setup either way, but I'd at least like a win condition as townie.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

If scum are lynched day 1 does the town win?

That would make the game no different from a normal one.

I like the concept of 'day 3 mafia', but I think it would be boring to play.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

I like unclean mafia.

The tracker in it was a bit lame, because it makes the mafia less dependent on searching for cop tells. A watcher can be useful for some interesting play, I guess.

It's also cool that a guilty result can clear you in some situations. That and I'd like to see how Hypocop works in this setup.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

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Some feedback and criticism is certainly warranted for this setup.

This thread is meant for open setups. That means that, at the beginning of the game, this setup is known by all players.

When all players know this setup, all townies can immediately claim, exposing all four the mafiosi. That's why this setup is certainly broken, and not versatile at all.

Open setups are usually too favored for the town when there are a lot of different roles. It's usually best to include a lot of vanilla townies. For example, if you cut most power roles, you get:

3x Mafia Goon
3x Mason
6x Vanilla Townie

This is quite a balanced setup, it's called Friends and Enemies. It's balanced because a massclaim won't work in this setup. There are 6 vanilla townies. If all mafia goons claim vanilla townie, there's 3 mafia in a total of 9 players. The masons, on the other hand, are better off not claiming, because they will be nightkilled, and lose their advantage. When creating an open setup, always keep in mind what claims would do to the game. Open setups usually revolve around behavioral analysis, not around claims.