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izakthegoomba
izakthegoomba
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izakthegoomba
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Post #158 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:14 pm
Postby izakthegoomba »
1) I don't see how introducing VTs would help. The only people who will fakeclaim Doc is the scum, so the same breaking strategy could still be worked. And I dislike that the outcome of that setup could be random.
2) Does that not ruin the spirit of the setup WAY more than an RB would? It's supposed to have crazy night phases, and a big part of that is achieved by giving everyone a power.
I think if this setup is to be fixed AND remain a fun, crazy setup to play, adding another scum PR, probably an RB, is the only way to do it.
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Post #314 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:36 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
Also, on Picking Simplicity:
As we're talking about Godfathers in the Inv-Immune sense, I think having two ways to give the Cop a false result (Godfather and potentially Inv-Immune SK) is too many for a setup which prides itself on being simple. Four Goons is probably enough to deal with the other factions; if not, give them a Rolecop or RB or something.
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Post #316 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:49 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
A much better way in general is to replace the Doc that would be following the Cop with a Jailkeeper. And an SK is an anti-town role, so an innocent result on one IS a false result, regardless of what the Cop might want.
Does anyone have a problem with this?
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Post #318 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:26 pm
Postby izakthegoomba »
JK is unlikely to be much use investigating. There's five scum, and even when the JK hits one, there's a good chance that one wasn't killing that night. It's not worth the risk of accidentally stopping a cross-kill.
A Jailkeeper is a bit weaker than a Doctor. It's main function is to prevent Follow the Cop; sure, the Cop can claim and ask to be followed but if the JK does so, the Cop is just a BP Townie.
So I think it's pretty balanced. Maybe I'll do an EV if I get time.
callforjudgement, are you an alt? Or did you play elsewhere or something?
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Post #331 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:17 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
Maybe you're right. People talk about how it's hard to win as SK, but I've not seen anyone do much about it.
I suggest we take the other common preventative for Follow the Cop - leave the doc in, but add a Mafia Roleblocker. A good SK wouldn't be likely to get roleblocked. A bad SK doesn't deserve to win anyway. Still give the choice between 1-shot BP and Investigation Immunity.
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Post #336 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:21 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
With two kills in the game, plus the scum having no incentive to kill the SK, will make follow the cop much harder to use. Chances are either the Cop or the Doctor will die before the SK, and even if they don't, the town is unlikely to get more than a couple of days of Follow the Cop. I like this idea.
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Post #338 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:32 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
Oh, I missed that. Yeah, it should be 1-shot BP or Inv-immune.
The daykill thing prevents the cop from claiming early. When the cop knows there's a daykill out there and the doc will be powerless to protect him, he won't claim until he's caught some scum, or got enough confirmed innocents that are still alive to make it worthwhile. Also, the scum will want to find, but not kill, the SK, because it would leave them open to Follow the Cop. They need to hunt the PRs first.
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Post #340 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:23 pm
Postby izakthegoomba »
What we have is a very simple, yet broken, setup. So we have to sacrifice a little simplicity. I'm with Hoopla, it's the most clutter-free option. It only effects ONE possible night action, and can't hurt the SK.
Hoopla, I assume the SK still gets to choose 1-shot BP or Inv-immune?
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Post #386 (isolation #36) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:08 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
I'm thinking of some kind of must-lynch adaption, but it doesn't fix the issue of the scum dying first. Paris should probably be binned.
I have no idea about tread carefully. It should probably be changed so that the same goon can't kill twice in a night. And possibly make it 13p somehow?
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Post #495 (isolation #41) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:50 am
Postby izakthegoomba »
In post 494, quadz08 wrote:No, that would make 2:11 really shitty to play. If the ideal strategy for a game is to not play the game, then your game sucks.
So, in other words, 2:11 Mountainous sucks. Which we already knew...
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