Survivor: Summertime (The End!)

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Oh I'd sign up if I could be the rejected player~

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Just be active, talk to people, and compete in challenges, and you should be fine.

so just be as sexy as you can and I'm sure you'd do well. :3

So this is why it never works out for me...

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Also, there has been a real lack of Blastoide in many games lately.

This.

Agreed.

QFT

~Certainly~

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If I joined would you give me all your Shial again, Blastoide?

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I doubt that you'll misspell your name in giant purple letters this time, so probably not.

Yeah. The 'deluxe TS package' I don't think I've ever given out either

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WOO F16

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iirc Ledian was your favourite of the S:SI avatars too, Kloud? SK has taste

Nice to meet you all. I can be found on AIM, but there's nothing like the cold stab of pleasant surprise that a PM brings. Either works for me.

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I forgot to say, but the tribe selection poems were a lovely touch. The rhyming of "sun" and "iron" was a highlight for me

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To confessional or not to confessional. That is the question

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Not likely to do a confessional, but non-players can feel free to IM me for interrogation.

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[8]- My summer plans are to watch the chaos and continue modding Arkham. Carry on guys.

You mod Arkham?

hah! That made me spill my cup of water

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It works fine for me

Maybe your government removed it?

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I am very disheartened in this game so far.

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I seem to recall that trivia one being the only one I did well in

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Just an aside, but I thought survivor protocol is usually to only show TC results to the tribe that went to TC?

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kk, but why the difference?

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surely we can share our submitted lists with our tribesmen now as we'll be trying to decide who to pick?

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TS claims the word sure

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TS claims the word User

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TS claims the word User

confirming

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TS claims the word Sirs

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TS claims the word Sirs

conf. conf.

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TS claims rum

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TS claims rum

confconf

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TS claims sir

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TS claims sir

conf

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TS claims ems

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Cephrir claims the word ovum

Lord Mhork claims ovum

Already claimed I'm afraid. Sorry

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Cephrir claims the word ser

"a unit of weight of India"

Scrabble dictionary never ceases to amaze me

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TS claims the word sri

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Just in case it appears in the scrabble dictionary or the English language?

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ok ^^

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Announcing a complete v/la from August 1st to August 7th

Apologies in advance

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same tribe colours? bah!

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so when is next challenge?

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@mod: what is the outcome at a TC in which everyone has given up their right to vote?

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I will be giving up my vote

may as well since I'm v/la from tomorrow =P

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v/la from now

I accepted the mission. See you later//

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hi everyone

catching up now

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Yes I am back! For good now. Thanks to everyone who filled me in. I enjoyed catching up with you all =)

For someone who's V/LA, TS is getting a lot of action.

This quote sums me up rather well

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This would have been far more poignant if you kept your Hammer bro. avatar

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You guys should also really announce a time when the lots go up

like really

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TS bids 100 sand dollars on Lot 7

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Outbid me if you want Orc

I can let you have it since it's your birthday

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At the rate things are going I can see someone snatching the last 3 lots for 1 sand dollar each

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I take it it is too late to pull back my sand dollars? Lot 8 looks tempting

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Surely the rolled up note should be /in/ the black box anyways?

I mean what else is the point of the box? :C

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CC was going to bid 5 but just missed the deadline u_u

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For accepting Task 1 but also accepting Task 3, Cephrir, CuddlyCaucasian, and TS must vote publicly.

You have

24 hours

to jam and submit your votes, so turn it up!

VOTE: Animorpherv1

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I suppose we're free from Orc's insane jury questions then?

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48 hours just for this bit? :c

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*laughed into his drink*

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I guess it pays to be gay?

Surely they don't all know about fashion though? :V

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SK, aren't you supposed to be dead?

Dead people posting about every comment is just getting a

little

annoying

(and shoosh. Ivy is the bestest)

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The mods are paying me to post to inspire the living players to post more.

Well I'm going to need all the inspiration I can get for this challenge. If you knew me then you would never associate me with fashion. But I always love a new challenge!

(and I kinda agree with Ani a bit?)

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The lost fashion

"There was nothing in the world
That I ever wanted more
Than to feel you deep in my heart"

TS lay on his bed and sighed. Not a particularly sorrowful sigh, nor a passive sigh either, but the sigh most befitting of a lonely Thursday. Just another day in the week to keep things apart. Maybe Wednesday and Friday never could stand each other. Perhaps Tuesday had manic depression, Sunday was always broke and Saturday never had time for his wife and kids. Even Monday was despised.
And it felt like the world sighed with him. Moving lips to breathe his name one last time. It was fading away now. The more he said it the more it lost meaning. Soon nothing but a dream that faded in the night.
Or a poem he meant to write

Pictures lay scattered on the flaw. The memories peeling from them as the thoughts pirouetted through his mind. Remembering the ones he was close to. Standing quiet in the rain. Running soft through the night. Whiter than snow in a time darker than the morning as it slipped away. Danced from his hands, leaving them as bare as his thoughts.
It rained.

"

If only I'd thought of the right words... We wouldn't be breaking apart

."

But there were no words anymore.
There was no wrong or right

Only silence. Silence to be enjoyed and all else to be forgotten. Notes that fell like the glassy beads from his eyes. Fell and never stopped falling. Always falling further away. Further from the ones he adored and the ones he wished he could change things for. Wish would speak to him far more than any stillness. In the silence far louder to his ears than any noise. Noise... the word had no meaning to him. No word did. No word ever expressed as a hollow noise could ever touch him like the words which never formed in his mouth. The words he wished he'd have said at the time to the ones he loved. Twisting in the past and torn apart by dissolved love.

But that word meant nothing either.

There was only one word that ever echoed to him now. As though it was all he ever could hear. His name spinning into the crystals that shattered with every blink. Lost in the cold. Crying for the death of his heart.

And he heard it one last time as it drowned his every edge. Faded his shape. Made him let go of it all.

Spoiler:

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Sorry I just love making people second guess Let's put this fashion show back in tune!

Now I don't know much about fashion personally judges, but what I do like to think I can talk about is being inventive. Why look the same as everyone else this summer? Another face down at the beach. Another grain of sand in the shoreline. Slowly having your individuality eroded by the waves. Is this the future of summertime fashion?

Looks like this range of clothing just got arrested for being too fashionable. Now let's examine the evidence.

Spoiler: Article 1

The shirt. Who doesn't love abstract shirts! And this one is made using the 'batik' manual wax-resist dyeing technique of the ancient Javanese. Made just for summer. If the sun himself could don a shirt and walk among us, this is what he'd choose. Sun digs batik, and we dig this shirt.

Spoiler: Article 2

The sandal. Not just a footwear. But the symbol of a generation. The 'sandal generation.'
Long has this humble footwear been oppressed by scorched feet and taunted by shoes. Ridiculed by socks and forgotten in the sands of time (and the beach!)

But not any longer. Summertime sandals are back. Join the sandal revolution. Perfectly suited to summertime strolls and hipster attire. Also, for this summer only, buy two sandals and get a third free!

Spoiler: Article 3

Well really at this point there is no more evidence. No more "style dictatorship." The fashion police have gone to collect their "donuts of grooviness", leaving you to pick up the pieces.

Really the rest can be whatever you like. It's your summer so be yourself! Individuality is certainly in-season so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. They're soooooo 2009

The most sexy thing in the world is to be smart and thoughtful. And no flip-flops or bracelets could ever show that.

And most importantly, don't ever let the search itself get in the way of what you're looking for in life. If you know what you're seeking then it will always find you in the end, no matter how long it will take.
Don't let planning ruin your plans
Don't let the search hide what you seek
And don't ever lose sight of what only you can see. It is better to be blind than to not think for yourself. For when we are ourseleves we never can be blind. We never can be "unfashionable" or as disposable as the seasons themselves.

Summer will pass.
The leaves fall from the tree
And before you can discover
You must learn how to see

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Can I know if the gameboard is being reset before I roll?

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(This challenge post is brought to you from the middle of a forest, very Xalxe)

Oh come on, I was only posting from the forest for like three months!

So now you're in the middle of Greece instead?

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I pick animorpherv1

Let's dance

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Apologies, did a 6-sided there

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1 8-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

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I never accepted it. You pressured me into it and pretty much demanded I accept despite my reluctance.

And on the subject of promises I recall you saying you wouldn't vote me TC #2. I hope a glass house isn't too hot this time of year

(but yes, much <3 )

TS is more summery than Animorpherv1

I'll have to thank my avatar if I end up being ranked rather summery

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Okay

This is just a challenge so lets' not get too =/ over it

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Once you realise intelligence for it's own sake is a useless goal, you become a very intelligent person indeed.

I challenge C-C-C-Candillan

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I am more Cutthroat than Candillan

rawr

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I'm going with this on the assumption that people will
1) Not have random lists
2) Will assume that faves are inherently more cutthroat than fans

Having said that, I'm not ruling out this confirming that I'm an unintelligent cutthroat

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Spoiler: Let's see

*Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

(Nope)

Castaways

1. CuddlyCaucasian
2. TS <---
3. Candillan
4. kloud1516

24 hours

Also, shouldn't CC be removed from the list for getting his wrong?

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So getting a wrong challenge doesn't lead to an elimination?

For what reason exactly would anyone choose to pass their go then???

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Sees rather pointless if there is nothing to lose =P

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Every time I submit a challenge I hope I'm wrong. That way it's win-win.

Happy days

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A bit unsporting to have already ruled out the option of voting some players before FTC

Eh. I saw it coming from a mile away. That said, there's only, like, 3 of you I actually want to vote for in Finale anyways.


I also hope you all feel bad, because my birthday is seriously in less than an hour and a half.

I don't know what you have had against me all game, but happy birthday

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If this game outlasts summer, does the name change?

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can we see everyone's lists from the last round?

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Oh, I like Scattergories!

I'm not good at it

, but I like it!

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challenge time?

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Happy Birthday Xof~

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What the hell TS

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I'm just never spend a lot of money in any game >.>

(Kinda like how in pokemon I never use a potion thinking I'll always need it more later)

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(also can we shorten the deadline a bit seeing as it's just a small submission?)

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I would enjoy seeing those and would not object to them being shared/posted now

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Happy birthday Tel!

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impressive

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48 hours go so fast~~

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Cephrir is the new KA

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36

hours

for Tribal Council everybody, good luck.

A bit long for 5 votes?

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Hey, for once I look good in monochrome!

ty Shii

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To be fair, Autumn is such a beautiful word...

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I assume we're not including spaces among our 300 characters?

*cue no-one going first*

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Tears and smoke in the summer

If my house burning down, and I could save just one thing
It would be no photograph, no art or diamond ring

But an empty cigarette packet
From an empty summer past
On which you first wrote that you loved me
And all else left to say.
That packet showed me life,
But it took your own away

Perhaps if I was ever in that fire
I wouldn’t save a thing

Let flames hold me in your arms

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results?

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Oh come on CC. Stop lying to me

every

TC :S

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...

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And now?

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No Torchwalk? :S

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Just do them anyways
Mario didn't have an official thing for them, but people did them anyways.

I always thought these games had TWs. Oh well. :/

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(I'm on a big v/la from the 28th so time-wise no TWs is probably ideal. Would like to get the game finished this week or so)

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(I don't think revealing TC votes to both tribes in tribal phase is a good emulation either if we're going down that route.)

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/shrug

I never cared much for flattery in the first place (especially when it can be so obvious and therefore moot). I've wrote mine already and will post it in thread after the game if

I win

enough people say they'd like to see it then.

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I will shorten it to 48 hours upon request, but that is it in terms of deadlines.

+1

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=P

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Thank you all very much! : D

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Thankyou very much again!

[jury votes are acceptable presents ]

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As someone who can't colour between the lines I think I did okay

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(random question, but do people prefer the theme for 'Pokemon Advanced Battle' (season 8) or 'Battle Frontier' (season 9)?)

This can be shortened to

24 hours

, but only if both parties agree in-thread. Get to it!

I am good with this

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/shrug

I never cared much for flattery in the first place (especially when it can be so obvious and therefore moot).

*writes poems for multiple players in Arkham*

I'm a different person in anons. I do crazy things

(And also they were songs)

(And I was specifically referring to TWs by which point there really is no reason)

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I was assuming that you'd actually have opened my PMs by now

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I'm an anxious pmer . Every game I have to really struggle to keep up with pms. Gtalk/AIM yo.

But not even open them? My PMs aren't

that

awful :<

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(random question, but do people prefer the theme for 'Pokemon Advanced Battle' (season 8) or 'Battle Frontier' (season 9)

Those are my two favorite themes you monster

but pokémon johto is easily the best

Pokémon Johto journeys (season 3) or Pokémon Johto champions (season 4)

(but yeah, all those themes are nice)

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indeed

Also, feel free to use the full 72 hours Snakes/Ceph. I'll be busy for a good few days so using as much of that time as possible would be useful

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Also, feel free to use the full 72 hours Snakes/Ceph. I'll be busy for a good few days so using as much of that time as possible would be useful

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Have a very nice Birthday, Snakes

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I will post a TW and then an opening FTC post within the next few hours. Provided that is okay.

I must offer my consolation to Snakes and my congratulations to Cephrir. Two fine people who I both wish could be at F2 with myself.

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BLUH fine

(now I have to reformat all the code)

edit: (can you put avatar pictures in QTs? if so, how?)

edit: and now QT won't accept half my links and I'd have to fragment it all up into so many small posts to fit in the charactercount. I don't even.

edit: Just pretend you read a very nice TW and not on some shoddy QT system which really can't format and has no role in society beyond simple notes. Someone just ask me to post a TW as a jury question because right now this is dumb.

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Firstly I'd like to thank Shii and Chevre. I only applied for this game at the last minute so I'm very appreciative that I was accepted. I like to think I justified my slot, and certainly myself being here I hope shows that I did leave a big impression on this game. I would be fascinated to hear how the playerlist was finalised and decided upon.

Coming into this game I wasn't sure what to expect. My only previous non-anon had been Mario Bros. which I flaked from due to poor modding, far too many live challenges and the start of other games. This game has made me realise that I do actually really enjoy non-anons though, perhaps even slightly more than anons which I have been so used to.
I was pleased to be on a tribe initially of 7 other players who I am all rather fond of, and am glad that I got to know the fans a bit better too as the game went on. I hope they have all enjoyed the game or at least learnt a little more. It takes courage to try something new and have the level of commitment that a survivor game demands. As an enthusiast of dynamic, active and unorthodox playstyles myself, It's nice to see new players and a break away from some of the more gamebotty mindsets. It’s been a much more relaxed too and has let me specialise more in my allies than trying to maintain connections between a network if players as I have done in past anons, usually out of paranoia and as insurance. It has been a welcome change and certainly the game that has exceeded my expectations the most

I shall now make the case for a TS jury vote:

On the subject of my challenge game

On this issue I would like to raise a few points

1) Winning no challenges was a testament to the strength of my social game. My connections and social game made it so that at no point did I ever need immunity and at no point was I ever held back by another player gaining immunity. Immunity and challenges beyond merge had almost zero influence on my game. I play the social side to an extent that, whilst immunity is a nice bonus, I never need to be worried about missing out on it or anxious that another player may be protected by it.

2) The challenge aspect of the game is not that pivotal in the grand scheme of things. The social game is far more of a challenge (no pun intended) to master. Challenges like flash games are merely a test of how much free time you have, and others like the coin game are just a barrel of wifom that is impossible to really work with without illegal communications. I don't think challenges should have any influence, if any, on the decision of who should win this game.

3) Triple winner Snakes won Arkham with only one individual challenge win and he won Mario Bros. with 0 individual immunity wins. This again just shows the small relevance of the challenge game in deciding a winner.

On the subject of my social game

My social game was remarkable in the following ways

1) I was a hub of communications. On the initial tribes I had intel feeding into me from every player (except Ani and Klick I suppose) and any move that happened I knew about in advance. I could count votes before they were cast and for a good deal of the game was able to rely on Orc/Kloud/JDGA/Snakes as vote partners in an unspoken alliance between us all. I was on good terms with Orc due to our regular chats and prior Mario Endurance game, had long been good friends with JDGA, Xof and Snakes, and had Kloud approach me right at the start for an F2 partnership until the end (this was never discovered by the other players and was sadly terminated when It came to my attention that Kloud wanted me gone). But my main point here is that coming into this game my connections were pristine and I regularly maintained them, both for personal enjoyment and to give me as many votes and as much information as I required to progress far into this game. Had I only a couple of allies I'm sure I would have at some point been either blindsided, isolated or simply outvoted. This was never the case though.

2a) I was one step ahead of the game. As time goes on allies decide to change their allegiances and "flip." Back in my young, inexperienced Elekid days I was baffled as to why anyone would even consider flipping from a strong partnership with an ally. Why let them down for others who may not be as strong? The reasons people flipped on me in this game was because I was seen as a threat due to the fact that players like Snakes, Kloud (and later Ceph) were snuggled under my wings. They continually voted as I wanted them to and they were all brilliant companions and allies.

The first flip on myself was perhaps Ani, but that was never really a flip as we had not properly ever been allied.
The next real flip was JDGA flipping on me. Then Kloud did. And finally (though at a similar time) CC. I had been a target the whole game. Whether it was from Ani and his voting bloc or my own allies, I constantly survived.

I have had more attempts to knock me out of this game than any other player and I am surviving still

.

2b) Every time someone wanted me gone I immediately knew. Kloud first informed me Ani wanted me out, JDGA/Orc let me know Xof was voting me, CC PM'd me evidence JDGA wanted me out, Snakes leaked that Kloud was thinking of striking my name out, and Ceph/Snakes made it clear to me at F4 that CC wanted me gone. For a wanted man I certainly knew how to keep my allies when they could have simply flipped on me when I became a TC candidate.

These players did not need to tell me there was a bounty on my head. It would have been far easier to let me be voted out than try and save me but:

i) The fact that I was informed is a testament to my social game
ii) The fact that I was able to then outmanoeuvre any coups puts emphasis on the fact that I was organised and well-prepared in terms of allies and negotiations
iii) Any threats to myself in the first place were due to the fact I was a threat in this game. Yet despite being seen as the constant threat, I am at F2.

I outwitted, outlasted and outcompeted

Nothing was a surprise to me this game. I had all the information from my allies so knew every move before it was played. It is like playing a chess game against a computer, knowing what move will be made in advance.

My social skills were the cheat code that revealed every move in this game before that move was made and I could plan in advance

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3) Not once did I betray an ally in this game. The only players I voted were either non-allies or allies who secretly wanted me gone and expressed this wish to another player (and therefore I no more betrayed them than they intended to do to myself). The only time I can perhaps say I did was at F3 as both Snakes and Ceph were superb allies and friends. I would have loved to have them both with me in the final, were it only possible. But it is just a final. A flashy name for another round. This is the unfortunate conclusion of all survivor games. I have been a completely loyal ally throughout.

Whilst loyalty =/= deserved winner, and I shall concede that my F2 competitor has probably been just as loyal as myself, I like to think it should merit a few bonus points.

4) I evaded the Ani plots, the Orc controversy, the pre-merge coups to take me out, the JDGA mistrust, the Kloud flip and finally the CC double flip (actually CC has tried to boot me at 3 TCs now. The Mhork one, the Kloud one and his own. heh)

I often do feel paranoid in anons but not here. I was paranoid during my early week of v/la and was a bit concerned when I found out about Ani’s targeting of myself in initial tribes. But I never thought I’d be leaving if most of my allies stayed loyal. Having the doublevote later on too was useful but I don’t think Snakes and I ever really needed our lots. We could have just got Ceph to vote Kloud with us (his preferred vote that round) but Snakes didn’t want Ceph to find out until after the TC out of a fear CC would ally with Ceph at F4 if Ceph didn’t vote CC. I do think Kloud would have had a fine chance at F4 poem immunity and would probably have made a brilliant sandcastle in F3 too. It’s a pity he didn’t live in that sense and I was rather u_u about having to vote him. But it had to be done, otherwise he’d be at F2 instead of me I’m sure.

In all honesty I have little idea why so many people flipped or wanted to flip on me. I can only think I became a threat later on due to my connections. But I am a little surprised as I’d expect players to remember I invariably slip up grand-style at some point in these games. At any rate, Like Harbinger and Croagunk, making F2 after being an obvious threat for some time is no easy feat and, whilst I’ve been very grateful for my allies in both the short & long-term, I like to think I have as much a case to win as they both had.

No player has hasd to dodge as much as I have this game in terms of bullets

. Thanks to my social game, intuition, organisation and allies I was able to do so. More has happened to me in this game than to any other player. I have been the central figure of this game and have dealt with each obstacle superbly. With the greatest respect to my F2 competitor, these reasons are why I deserve to win Survivor: Summertime.

But after saying all this, I don’t think it’s all about winning either. I have had an excellent time and met some excellent people. Whilst I think I played the best game (and the only one I can think of without any mistakes in it. I usually have a couple waiting to happen in my anons).
I won’t be down if I don’t win. In fact I’ll be on v/la~/

Conclusions

For the reasons above (i.e. social game) I believe I deserve to win. Whilst I don't think it's as clear cut as Social game Vs Challenge game at all I do think that issue is centric to a decision at this FTC. But having said that, Cephrir's playstyle and way of going about these games is beautiful in itself so I would be more than glad for him, as a friend and ally, were he to win. I would have been very sad if I left early in this game not in the least because I would never have got to talk to Cephrir, Kloud and a lot more of the other players who I am very fond of. It's been a very fun game and I like to think I have done everything I could have, (social game at least) to be here.

Have an excellent day.

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TS: How close did you believe kloud and I to be throughout the game?

Whenever I asked one of you about the other the response was always positive and as though we were talking about similar things. We also voted in the same patterns most of the time. Really I thought that since I thought I had a very friendly connection to you both that you might have something similar to what you had with me (if not as strong perhaps? I don't know how often you talked really so I have no idea for sure. Maybe tighter since it can be hard to catch me at times due to timezones)

But yeah, if you were close then great. I sure love being close to Kloud and JDGA in my games and would certainly promote that experience.

EDIT: after reading it again I now realise you mean to myself and not to each other (bluh it's early) or at least I think that's what you mean?

Will get back to that later >.>

TS: How possible is it that the only reason you made it to F2 is because Cephrir and Snakes both dragged you,

with both of them thinking either of them could easily defeat you in a jury vote?

I don't think that was the reason. I don't think either really thought they could beat me. It certainly wouldn't be as clear-cut as had they brought the other F3 person with them.

But Snakes/Ceph were hugely loyal to me which is why they took me. If they didn't think they could win then that is just a testament to how lovely and loyal they are. I know they would have both taken me. My social game is to thank for that. Even at F3 I never needed immunity I'm sure.

As you indicate in your question "how is it possible" it evidently isn't possible and I agree with you. Therefore I am not being taken to F2 as a sheep but as a partner with every chance of winning. I like to think again that is due to my golden social game.

TS: I have several issues with why you should win. In the challenge game aspect I do believe that you shouldn't let challenge wins be a major factor as to who should win. However, you go on to talk about Snakes lack of challenge wins like it apparently was a strategy of his. I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Entering the social game section, you then go on to describe the basic principles of only one strategy - Sure you were a communications hub, but I believe if you wanted to play that game, then I shouldn't have wanted you out ever - and you should've attempted to make friends with me, instead of ignoring me completely. If you did that, I wouldn't have wanted you out, and that should've been hilariously obvious. I don't have much of a question for you. Do you really think it was you who dodged those bullets, or was it other people doing your work for you? I'm currently believing it was the later. If not, prove it to me.

In past games I've tried to be friends with everyone. It never works. People get annoyed and you end up being close to no-one. So obviously I didn't want to do that this time and I suppose that's why I didn't talk to you and Cand so much (will get to his questions later, I haven't forgotten!)

I just cited Snakes in the challenge game area as an example of how little the challenge game means when you have a very shiny social game. I didn't mean to imply it was a strat of his not to win challenges, but that really challenges <<<<< Social game.

At the start I suppose you wanted someone out after Klick. Why not me? You may have been annoyed after AA or something in which case reasoning with you would have been tricky and slightly illegal. Furthermore I kinda needed a boot on early tries too after Klick left in case we went to TC. I liked everyone on the tribe but I knew you wanted me gone. So you lended yourself nicely to be an insurance should we ever hit TC.

I dodged the bullets but obviously I couldn't do it alone. I needed to get the info from my network of allies as part of my excellent talks with them. If I needed to know about players/votes/alliances I could see all the cards and I knew enough people to never be at a numerical TC disadvantage. I don't think my competitor here showed as much in terms of quick-thinking, orchestration of TCs and alliance efficiency. But that's just my opinion

(will do Cand and JDGA later)

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but when you didn't win a challenges you weren't really gaining many votes. This speaks wonders to your social game, I believe

I would just like to comment here and say that from ~F6 Ceph (whether he knew it or not) needed me to deflect votes from him. I know Snakes and Kloud would have wanted him gone long before F3 and I think if I wasn't here to steer votes in the other direction then Ceph wouldn't be at F2 with me. Ceph's social game was like a beautiful, but very small garden whereas mine was a tropical rainforest.

In a sense I dragged Ceph to F3 with me, but I never saw it in that way because that would imply I only talked to him for strategic purposes.

TS: How close did you believe kloud and I to be throughout the game?

Kloud I thought to have always been a close ally. I was under the impression that I was his #1 for 98% of his game (1% at the very start and end) and he and I had an excellent partnership in which we spoke and shared notes and generally furthered our own game. It went very nicely but obviously not until F5 when I voted Kloud out due to being told by Snakes that he was considering voting me.



With regards to yourself I thought we always got on well and, though I was very surprised to see you in this game, I was also really thrilled that you were. More on that bit in my TW perhaps. But yeah, I felt that you were very well integrated in the initial tribes and I was very proud and glad to have you as a close ally, even if any alliance we had was probably unspoken in itself (then again all the best ones are).
I liked to think our alliance was on equal terms with each other. I was sad to vote you out and would have liked to have think we could have been allied for as long as possible.

What would you say if I asked you and TS to have a Pokemon battle for my vote

?

Does this count?

(ty to Ani for the suggestion)

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TS: Win me over. You have only spoken a few words to me throughout the course of the game. From my perspective, you were carried through the whole thing. Why should you earn my vote?

Yeah I wish I'd been able to talk more. You seem a very nice person (see TW)

But yeah I suppose when I came back from my short v/la Mhork had left my new tribe and I had two new faces in yourself and CC. I hadn't heard too much from you but CC had sent me a very large PM and a big apology too so it lent itself more to me talking to him at that point in time. As I've said before I didn't want to be friends with everyone because that would be uncomfortable when I'd end up having to vote them. I'm sure next time we can be. I hope that you can be impartial in your vote as jurors often are, but at the same time I wouldn't deny you a Ceph vote now if you wanted it.

I was not carried through the whole thing. People always wanted me to vote as I asked them too. I was the behind the scenes director and the others were my actors, but I like to think I did plenty of acting too. I was never in any danger since I kept enough allies to always make up the numbers and be able to think ahead. I probably knew more info than any other player due to how I was able to combine my many sources. I think the only time I have been carried is F3 when I was taken to F2, but I knew that both Snakes and Cephrir would take me. I wanted them in F3 because I knew they would. They are two very loyal players and It was nice to have them at F3 to take me all the way. Maybe in that sense they carried me, but they would not have done so had my social play not been so great that they felt compelled to, even in the face of a more likely FTC defeat. That is something remarkable I have done

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I do not see how I played in the dark at all. When a good proportion of the playerlist tell me everything that ends up happening I hardly call that the dark. No-one needed to tell me any of the times I was being considered for voting and they could have just let me be another TC fodder. But evidently I wouldn't let that happen and my connections saw me through to the end. Snakes and yourself could have ejected me, or even at the Orc TC or any other between then and F3 if I ever was truly in the dark.

Even if it was only a possibility in your F5 plan, I don't see why you make out like I'm foolish for going with the info I got and decided to work with. It would be far more myopic to just ignore it. Snakes, Ceph, CC and you were all my allies at F5 and you couldn't all go to the end with me. Yes you left at that point but realise that word travels fast in these games and you evidently weren't as close to Snakes as I was (and you say my game is bad. Snakes and Ceph were my allies all the way.) I know Ceph would have voted you too had I asked him to.

I can't be bothered to use your clichéd smear terms "I find it insulting" and all the rest back at you because it's just needlessly antagonistic and your final statement shows you have already made your mind up. I think you may be more suited to that fragrance line than myself.

You say you aren't a bitter juror as though that means everything before isn't bitter at all. I mean you didn't even ask a question just a bile waterfall. In fact you didn't ask Ceph a question either.

You may only make one

question

to each finalist[/align]

Get out your library cards because reading is fundamental.

Deliciously over your head

Your game in a nutshell. Feel free to scribble over the history books as though I was "carried" like I was suppose to play this game without allies and win every TC sword in hand in a barefist combat but I couldn't care less what you have to say right now

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Being a focus of the game =/= controlling it. That would be silly. But I lived this long and outlasted those who had agendas of higher and more clandestine natures.

Great you had a secret alliance. Awesome I didn't know about it. But neither did Ceph. And I still outlasted as the ruins fell around me. Ceph was in his own bubble throughout the game. My attentiveness to alliances I should have no idea about isn't the focus of anything I did. You could have easily booted me before Cand, Ani & Co. but chose not to and, though that may well be a mistake on your own part, the greatest chess grandmasters may not always have the best moves themselves but sure know how to punish their opponents for making mistakes. That is what I did.

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fwiw I never was considering booting Snakes, that was only in the scenario where you were actually not lying to me from day 1. In which case there would be an equal claim upon first glance

At any rate I was never informed the jury would be deciding it's votes based on how much I knew about a failed secret alliance of 2 players that Cephrir hardly knew about either. At this point I really have better things to do than mess around with vitriol and watch as a very friendly and enjoyable game has a less than fitting ending from players who want to point out how I wasn't omniscient about things that evidently didn't matter (I made it here regardless) and other straw men.

I only respond in the manner to which I am asked. There are nicer ways to put things and more open ways to see.

Days fade, weeks meld.
Every night I set the two alarm clocks that run the same race
But that's the wonderful thing about time
It passes.

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Thankyou Snakes. You were a pleasure to have around

you and Ceph are real five star allies so I would have hated to vote either of you off. I really don't know what I'd have done if I won at F3. I'd have probably just tried to pretend it wasn't happening and go back to sleep. All a bad dream. Wake up to another day. No hard decisions. I may haven sent myself home or just ran away. I hate to choose. I admit I semi-threw the challenge at F3 because I knew both of you would take me to the end and I didn't have the heart to win immunity and send a golden ally and partner home.

I think you were both like brothers to me this game. It was good we had something lovely but didn't have to be all super secret "ha you never guessed our alliance no FTC vote for you!" kind of style. I may take a break for real after this game. Survivor isn't as fun as it once was. MS is a bit claustrophobic at times and my throat is so sore.

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@Marquis:

Klick

=> Wish you were here; ah well.

Xofelf

=> Very fun and departed too soon.

SleepyKrew

=> Didn't talk much but certainly interesting.

Kublai Khan

=> Radioactive Kangaskhan is always a joy.

Lord Mhork

=> Not sure why you left anymore.

Keybladeweilder

=> We never really spoke so hi!

orcinus_theoriginal

=> Your games are certainly unpredictable. Hi!

Marquis

=> Unfortunately never met; how are you?

animorpherv1

=> Renewing apologies like sunrise for you.

Candillan

=> You were fun; should've talked more.

JDGA

=> Professor-level stoicism, gravitas and precision; thinker.

Kloud1516

=> Thinks I did nothing this game.

CuddlyCaucasian

=> Fun as Flubber, cool as ice.

Snakes

=> Helplessly hoping you were here too.

Cephrir

=> Popular but passive; all that glitters~

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In conclusion I outlasted. There are reasons for that. I saw all moves to remove me and acted accordingly to resist them. I did this each time and nothing more could be asked of me there. I had the most hazards in my path and did the most to overcome my obstacles. People do not ally with me for nothing and I was able to give enough to last throughout. Numerous allies voted each other throughout this game and it was not easy to follow at all, but I certainly knew enough to navigate the choppy seas. I certainly knew more than my F2 partner at any rate.

I put much effort into this game. Even Ceph gave challenges like the fashion show a miss and I tried even though I knew I didn't need immunity. I never did. But I never lay back and I was always purging the energy from myself and into this game. It isn't easy. But it never is

I didn't have any diabolical plans this game, yet out of them all I am perhaps getting the most stick for how I played here mhich makes no sense and is completely unfounded. But that is okay. I think perhaps there is some strange flow in the system if there is any reason not to vote myself over Ceph (when I always knew more than him, continually had better connections and would have been taken to F2 by any of the F3. Ceph is only here because Snake's Wifi broke).

Goodnight to all the world's children

[TS]

Oh dear, is TS the only one that wrote a Torchwalk -_____-

yes