GuyInFreezer's Mini Normal Review, June 2021

[northsidegal]

copy pasting for my own sake:

Town Combined Doctor Vigilante
Town Macho-Enabler
Town Macho Miller Day 4 Innocent Child
Town Night 2 Cop
Town 1-shot Even-night Cop
Vanilla Townie x 5

Mafia Macho Doctor-Enabler
Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof Watcher
Mafia Vigilante-Enabler 2-shot Roleblocker

[northsidegal]

:^)

why

[northsidegal]

will actually review this tomorrow

for now i'm just gonna leave you with that question

[northsidegal]

yeah alright

so in my infinite grace i am choosing to allow the role of combined doctor vigilante to pass. but macho miller d4 innocent child is a step too far, that role needs to go, or change somehow. get rid of the miller and i think it'll be fine. as the setup is now i think it's roughly on the scumsided end of things actually, the only real town power is essentially two one shot cops, the combination of whose claims will likely cast doubt on the others assuming that both even live that long. that isn't that good.

by the way, just as a design criticism rather than a balance or normality or fun point, i think that this setup probably hinges too much on the combined doc vig. the curse of the setup designer is that this means that whoever rolls this roll will almost certainly get eliminated or killed at the earliest possible opportunity, ruining your setup. happens every time.

anyways, i think the mafia watcher needs to go, probably also the 1-shot BP as well? probably also the roleblocker. at least one of those scum roles has to go, it's too much scum power. that being said i think it would be useful to give scum a strongman given the innocents and doc in the setup. here's a proposal:

Town Combined Doctor Vigilante
Town Macho-Enabler
Town Macho Day 4 Innocent Child
Town Night 2 Cop
Town 1-shot Even-night Cop
Vanilla Townie x 5

Mafia Macho Doctor-Enabler
Mafia 1-shot Strongman
Mafia Vigilante-Enabler

let me know what you think.

[northsidegal]

yeah, i know that the mafia macho still dies. could you clarify what you mean by "red herring"?

[northsidegal]

meh. i might be willing to have 1-shot BP 1-shot strongman if Ircher signs off on it.

[northsidegal]

yes, we need to approve the final versions of the role PMs and result PMs before it's passed

[northsidegal]

for macho, i would rephrase "cannot be protected in any way" to "actions targeting you which would prevent your death will fail" or something similar which gets across the idea that it's only roles that target the macho person which fail and not, say, someone roleblocking a vigilante shooting the macho person. not a big deal, but still.

for the record i meant that the 1SBP would be on the strongman but this is fine too.

for the strongman role PM, you should add "bypassing all protection attempts on the target and roleblocking attempts on yourself".

apart from that it seemed fine, i just need the result PMs (i.e. for the cops "X is town", "X is scum", "No result")

[northsidegal]

/pass