lendunistus's Mini Normal Review, July 2021

[lendunistus]

Question: Will this setup be confirmed as 9-2 or will it be left in the air? I think it will make a noticeable impact on balance.

left in the air as far as I know

@implo

could you add datisi to this thread btw? I noticed that he wasn’t included in the PM

[lendunistus]

i'll write up role PMs when I have the willpower to do so (probably later today)

[lendunistus]

Question; does the backup 2x detective inherit the remaining shots of the 2x detective, or always have 2 no matter what?

As in, if the 2x detective uses a shot and dies, does the backup 2x detective get 1 shot or two?

I think regardless of the answer, the setup is notably scumsided, but the answer to this affects by how much. In the former case of two shots no matter what, I'd call it beyond the range of acceptably scumsided (~65-35 scum-town I'd say), in the latter I'd call it borderline but maybe maybe

maybe

passable as scumsided but within the margin (~60-40 scum-town, which is allowed, but not recommended).

backup inherits the remaining shots of the 2-shot detective

[lendunistus]

what if I remove the JK? would that make it too townsided?

[lendunistus]

so
1x Town 2-shot Detective
1x Town Backup 2-shot Detective
1x Town Neighborizer
6x Vanilla Townie
1x Mafia Informed (info: "This game contains a Town 2-shot Detective.")
1x Mafia Checker
Daytalk is enabled for both neighbours and Mafia
Mafia have the ability to multitask

thoughts? maybe put in a town informed with knowledge that the game is 9v2? (although that might be a bit problematic when comboed with detective.) what about town informed with the knowledge that at least one scum power role exists? (although that has the problem of maybe being relatively useless)

i’ll ask datisi for opinions. if it seems like we’ve reached a consensus i’ll write up some role PMs

[lendunistus]

Technically the backup defective should get 2 fresh shots when they take over the role based on normal rules. Universal backups inherit shots, but regular backups simply become that role if someone with the role dies. They effectively become a new copy.

ah, okay, wasn’t aware of that

turning JK into a checker should be enough then imo, no need to give town extra power

[lendunistus]

Role PMs:

Town Neighborizer

You are a

Town Neighborizer

.

You have access to this private topic. Initially, you are the only player with access to your private topic. You may read it and post to it at any time while you are alive.

Once per night, you may choose a player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will be given access to your private topic, and will become able to read it and post to it at any time.

You win when town is the last remaining faction.

Game Thread

Confirm by either replying to this PM with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town 2-shot Detective

You are a

Town 2-shot Detective

.

Twice per game and once per night, you may choose a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn whether or not your target has performed a successful killing action on another player this game.

You win when town is the last remaining faction.

Game Thread

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

Town Backup 2-shot Detective

You are a

Town Backup 2-shot Detective

.

When a

2-shot Detective

dies, you will gain the following ability:

"Twice per game and once per night, you may choose a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn whether or not your target has performed a successful killing action on another player this game."

You win when town is the last remaining faction.

Game Thread

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

Vanilla Townie

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when the town is the last remaining faction.

Game Thread

Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Informed

You are a

Mafia Informed.

Your teammate is

player

(a Mafia Checker). You may talk to them using this private topic, which you may read and post to at any time while you are alive.

You know the following additional information about this game: "This game contains a Town 2-shot Detective."

Once per night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may nightkill a player; assuming no interference with your action, that player will die unless protected.

You win when the mafia is the last faction remaining or when nothing can prevent this (i.e. parity or majority over the Town).

Game Thread

Confirm by either replying to this PM with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mod Notes:

This role flips without its information.

Mafia Checker

You are a

Mafia Checker

.

Once per night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will be informed that your action succeeded (but your action has no other effect).

Once per night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may nightkill a player; assuming no interference with your action, that player will die unless protected.

You have the ability to multitask (use both of your actions on the same night).

You win when the mafia is the last faction remaining or when nothing can prevent this (i.e. parity or majority over the Town).

Game Thread

Confirm by either replying to this PM with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[lendunistus]

Result PMs:

Neighborizer result PM:
"You have gained access to this private topic. You may read it and post to it at any time while you are alive."

Detective result PMs:
"You received a Positive result."; "You received a Negative result."; not possible but still including this: "You received No Result."

Checker result PMs:
"You successfully checked

target

."; not possible but still including this: "Your action failed."

Backup Detective activation PM:
"A Town 2-shot Detective has died! You may now use your ability."

[lendunistus]

@implo

some messups that need edits:

-remove extra area tags at the neighborizer PM win condition
-add "while you are alive" to the end of the ability description of neighborizer
-put neighborizer result PM in quotation marks and remove the area tag

apologies for the typos, can't fix them myself

[lendunistus]

alright, thanks

[lendunistus]

I made a mistake in the Backup 2-shot det role PM, I said that “When a Town 2-shot Detective dies, you will gain the following ability” when it should be when a 2-shot Detective dies, regardless of alignment

fixed now

[lendunistus]

pulling the game for now and saving the setup for later