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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:44 am

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Could toss in a Neapolitan and Rolestopper if there’s no way a low power setup works.

In any case, perhaps simplicity is key.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:03 am

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Thought this over, scrapped the old idea, wanted to make a neighbor-centric game.

The Latecomers
1
Mafia Backup Neighbor

1
Mafia Role Cop

1
Mafia Goon

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Town Neighbor

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Town Novice Neighbor

1
Town Activated Neighbor

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Town 1-Shot Doctor

1
Town 1-Shot Cop

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Setup concept revolves around a hood that starts with only one player but gets bigger as time goes on, and a scum player infiltrates it later.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:00 pm

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Mason lists a Novice Mason as a legitimate role.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:01 pm

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In post 14, Cook wrote:Mason lists a Novice Mason as a legitimate role.
correction: as a role-modifier combo that can work.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:04 pm

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1 Mafia Backup Neighbor
1 Mafia Role Cop
1 Mafia Goon
1 Town Neighbor
1 Town Novice Neighbor
1 Town Activated Neighbor
1 Town 1-Shot Doctor
1 Town 1-Shot Cop
5 Vanilla Townies

Roles (not PMs)You're a Backup Neighbor.
• Once a Neighbor dies you will gain access to the Neighborhood PT, where you may communicate with other Neighbors.

You're a Role Cop.
• Target someone at night to learn a role but not an alignment.

You're a Goon.
• No special abilities :)

You're a Neighbor
• You have access to a Neighborhood PT, where you may communicate with other Neighbors.

You're a Novice Neighbor
• On Day 2 and onwards you have access to a Neighborhood PT, where you may communicate with other Neighbors.

You're an Activated Neighbor
• You may choose to join the Neighborhood PT at a later date, where you may communicate with other Neighbors.

You're a 1-Shot Doctor
• Once in the game, heal someone, saving them from an attack on that night.

You're a 1-Shot Cop
• Once in the game cop someone, learn if they are Mafia or not.

You're a Vanilla Townie.
• You didn't rand The Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out Of Its Ass. I'm sorry for your loss.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 17, northsidegal wrote:to be clear: this setup is not passed and needs to be changed. town needs more power, and it seems to be the consensus that "novice neighbor" also needs to be changed. i also recommend that you either change the activated neighbor or alter the setup to somehow justify its inclusion a bit more
yep. i'm still aware of that.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:46 pm

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In post 19, northsidegal wrote:sorry, just wanted to make sure. with you reposting the setup and the role list like that that's typically the sort of thing people do after the setup is finalized, so just trying to be clear.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:10 am

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In post 21, Isis wrote:Sometimes the wiki is a wiki. Novice neighbor is a no.
Alrighty. Convert that into a
Town Neighbor
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Post Post #24 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:20 am

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ungate the cop?

make one neighbor BP?
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Post Post #25 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:20 am

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Here's a thought:
Make Cop Odd-Night and Doctor Even-Night. That way Follow The Cop is weakened due to no result being gained on the nights that a Doctor could protect the Cop.

Current Setup
Mafia Backup Neighbor

Mafia Role Cop

Mafia Goon

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Town Neighbors

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Town Activated Neighbor

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Town Even-Night Doctor

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Town Odd-Night Cop

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Post Post #28 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:39 pm

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Hello again! This went dead for a bit, sorry.

What about making a JOAT of Tracker, Cop, Psych in place of the Odd-Night Cop?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:03 pm

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Mafia Backup Neighbor

Mafia Role Cop

Mafia Goon

2
Town Neighbors

Town Activated Neighbor

Town Even-Night Doctor

Town Jack of All Trades
(Tracker, Cop, Psychologist)
5
Vanilla Townies


Key things to watch in play:
• The interaction within the hood
• JOAT essentially has an unreliable vanilla cop, unreliable cop, and cop action. What order do they use it in?
• Mafia/Town balance
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Post Post #31 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:04 pm

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tbh the entire neighbor gimmick is to help answer the question of "what is the dynamic of backup neighbor and activated neighbor?"

if/once this passes i would appreciate some help planning this game so it's a bit more normal than last time
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Post Post #34 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:55 pm

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also does JOAT flip with trades and do they show in a rolecopping
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Post Post #37 (isolation #14) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:51 pm

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realized i'm next in the mini queue

might be a good time to iron the details out

Template PM:

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[area]Welcome! You are a [b][color=#00BF00]Vanilla Townie.[/color][/b]

You have no special abilities outside of your voice and vote.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is [u]here[/u]. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment.[/area]


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[area]Welcome! You are a [b][color=#FF0000]Mafia Goon.[/color][/b]

At night, you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is [u]here[/u].
The game thread is [u]here[/u]. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment.[/area]
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Post Post #38 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:10 pm

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daytalk?
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Post Post #40 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:56 am

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setup guarantees
Setup follows Normal guidelines.

Scum have daytalk and multitasking.

There is only one scumteam. That team is the Mafia.

Flavor has no effect on the game.


Welcome! You are a
Vanilla Townie.


You have no special abilities outside of your voice and vote.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Mafia Goon.


At night, you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
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The game thread is
here
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Post Post #42 (isolation #17) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:10 pm

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Welcome! You are a
Vanilla Townie.


You have no special abilities outside of your voice and vote.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Neighbor.


Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition you have a neighborhood PT which you can talk in, but only at night.

Your neighbor is {REPLACE THIS WITH THE NEIGHBOR'S NAME}

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Welcome! You are a
Town Activated Neighbor.


Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition, at night, you may activate your neighbor ability. At the end of the night, you will be granted access to a neighborhood PT which you can talk in, but only at night.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Even-Night Doctor.


Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition on even nights (Night 2, Night 4, and so on) you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from kills.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Jack of All Trades
with Tracker, Cop, and Psychologist abilities.

Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition you have
one
of
each
of the following night abilties. When using them, please specify which ability you are using.
  • Cop
    : Send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if your target is a member of the Mafia or not.
  • Tracker
    : Send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who your target visited. "No result" and "Went nowhere" are two different results.
  • Psychologist
    : Send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if your target has an unexercised ability to kill. Players who have killed or cannot kill will return a negative result.
You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Mafia Role Cop.


At night, you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

In addition, you may send me the name of a player to rolecop. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn that player's role.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
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The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
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At night, you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
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The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Mafia Backup Neighbor.


At night, you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

In addition, if a Neighbor dies, you will gain access to a neighborhood PT in which you may talk, but only at night.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
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The game thread is
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Post Post #43 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:11 pm

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T3
has accepted the backup mod position.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:32 am

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  • Your target is a Backup Neighbor.

  • Your target is a Role Cop.
    (technically impossible)
  • Your target is Vanilla.

  • Your target is a Neighbor.

  • Your target is an Activated Neighbor.

  • Your target is an Even-Night Doctor.

  • Your target is a Jack of All Trades with Tracker, Cop, and Psychologist abilities.

  • Your target went nowhere last night.

  • Your target visited {REPLACE WITH VISIT NAME} last night.

  • Your target is a member of the Town.

  • Your target is a member of the Mafia.

  • Your target has an unexercised ability to kill.

  • Your target does not have an unexercised ability to kill.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:41 am

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Welcome! You are a
Vanilla Townie.


Use your voice and your vote to help eliminate scum.

You have no other special abilities.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Neighbor.


Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition you have a neighborhood PT which you can talk in at any time.

Your neighbor is {REPLACE THIS WITH THE NEIGHBOR'S NAME}

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Activated Neighbor.


Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition, at night, you may activate your neighbor ability. At the end of the night, you will be granted access to a neighborhood PT which you can talk in at any time.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Even-Night Doctor.


Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition on even nights (Night 2, Night 4, and so on) you may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from kills.

You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Town Jack of All Trades
with Tracker, Cop, and Psychologist abilities.

Use your voice and vote to help eliminate scum.

In addition you have
one
of
each
of the following night abilties. When using them, please specify which ability you are using.
  • Cop
    : Send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if your target is a member of the Mafia or not.
  • Tracker
    : Send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who your target visited. "No result" and "Went nowhere" are two different results.
  • Psychologist
    : Send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if your target has an unexercised ability to kill. Players who have killed or cannot kill will return a negative result.
You win once all scum have been eliminated.

The game thread is
here
. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment.


Welcome! You are a
Mafia Role Cop.


Use your voice and your vote to deceive your enemies.

At night, your team may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

In addition, you may send me the name of a player to rolecop. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn that player's role.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
.
The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Mafia Goon.


Use your voice and your vote to deceive your enemies.

At night, your team may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
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The game thread is
here
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Welcome! You are a
Mafia Backup Neighbor.


Use your voice and your vote to deceive your enemies.

At night, your team may send me the name of a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

In addition, if a Neighbor dies, you will gain access to a neighborhood PT in which you may talk at any time.

You also have a PT in which you may talk with your fellow Mafia members at any time.

You win once the Mafia have an unopposable voting majority.

The Mafia PT is
here
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The game thread is
here
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Post Post #47 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 am

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every rolecard is now formatted:

Welcome! You are a
Alignment Role
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Use your voice and vote to {GOAL}.

{FACTIONAL ABILITY}

In addition, {ABILITY}.

{BONUS ABILITIES}.

You win once {GOAL}.

{PT ACCESS}

{PT LINKS}
The game thread is {LINK}. Please confirm by replying with your role and alignment. {PT CONFIRMATION CLAUSE}
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Post Post #51 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:56 pm

Post by Cook »

k, i'll fix pms soon
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