Not Known 15's Mini Normal Review, November 2021
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It is definitely very swingy, yes. If the PR's survive for too long scum win chances go down alot. If the PR's die Night 1 and Night 2 town is in a tough situation. However, town is unlikely to win on PR's alone, unless scum plays badly. And unless town plays terribly or is really unlucky there should at least one result coming in from Night 1(from the Cop, or the Watcher watching the Cop, if known) or later(Watcher)
I gave town extra points for the Watcher/Cop investigative combination, that's why it might seem scumsided. Adding more town power would be probably a mistake.-
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I would feel bad about that. It would give town a reward for an early Cop claim(Watcher outs killer, town still has a cop mafia needs to find before the end of Night 3, and Night 2 is already reserved for the Watcher)In post 4, Something_Smart wrote:How would you feel about doing something like that?
And if it is the Watcher, even worse. The watcher WILL be killed Night 1, the cop will get a result and there is STILL a watcher. If the result is "guilty" then scum will find itself at a very uncomfortable position. At Day 4, it will be 7v1 if the day 1 elim was town, and already lost if the day 1 elim was Mafia. If the Watcher conceals themselves enough then they might even survive, by scum not anticipating another Watcher with a guilty.
No, I do not want to reward town for misplays that much.
The worst situation does not appear if town claims - it appears when the Town Cop does not claim and dies Night 1.-
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Not Known 15 Mafia Scum
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7 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon
1 Town Odd-Night Cop
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop
1 Mafia (Ninja Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Non-Consecutive Night(Ninja Backup Gunsmith)
Results:Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Normal.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
At least one person recieved this Role PM.
#808080). Do not use it.
This is my color
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
Cops:Town on all townies, Not Town on all mafia.
Watcher:
You saw X and Y visiting your target.(e.g. Factional kill+Cop)
You saw Y visiting your target.(Factional kill/Cop)
You saw no one visiting your target.(Ninja action+ no other actions or no actions)
Gunsmith:
Your target has a gun(Cop, Night 2 Backup Cop, Mafia Goon)
Your target does not have a gun(All townies except Cop; Night 2 Deputy)-
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Not Known 15 Mafia Scum
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I messed up the Non-Consecutive Night description. Sorry!
7 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon
1 Town Odd-Night Cop
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop
1 Mafia (Ninja Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Non-Consecutive Night(Ninja Backup Gunsmith)
Results:Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Normal.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
At least one person recieved this Role PM.
#808080). Do not use it.
This is my color
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
Cops:Town on all townies, Not Town on all mafia.
Watcher:
You saw X and Y visiting your target.(e.g. Factional kill+Cop)
You saw Y visiting your target.(Factional kill/Cop)
You saw no one visiting your target.(Ninja action+ no other actions or no actions)
Gunsmith:
Your target has a gun(Cop, Night 2 Backup Cop, Mafia Goon)
Your target does not have a gun(All townies except Cop; Night 2 Deputy)-
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In post 7, Not Known 15 wrote:I messed up the Non-Consecutive Night description. Sorry!
7 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon
1 Town Odd-Night Cop
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop
1 Mafia (Ninja Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Non-Consecutive Night(Ninja Backup Gunsmith)
Results:Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Normal.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
At least one person recieved this Role PM.
#808080). Do not use it.
This is my color
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
Cops:Town on all townies except Night 2 Backup Cop, Not Town on all mafia.
No Result on the Ascetic.
Watcher:
You saw X and Y visiting your target.(e.g. Factional kill+Cop)
You saw Y visiting your target.(Factional kill/Cop)
You saw no one visiting your target.(Ninja action+ no other actions or no actions)
No Result(Targeting Ascetic)
Gunsmith:
Your target has a gun(Cop, Mafia)
Your target does not have a gun(All townies except Cop; Night 2 Backup Cop)
No Result(Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop)-
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Not Known 15 Mafia Scum
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Ok. This time... perhaps?
7 Vanilla Townies
1 Town Odd-Night Cop
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop
1 Mafia (Ninja Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Non-Consecutive Night(Ninja Backup Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Informed
Results:Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Normal.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
At least one person recieved this Role PM.
#808080). Do not use it.
This is my color
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
Cops:Town on all townies except Night 2 Backup Cop, Not Town on all mafia.
No Result on the Ascetic.
Watcher:
You saw X and Y visiting your target.(e.g. Factional kill+Cop)
You saw Y visiting your target.(Factional kill/Cop)
You saw no one visiting your target.(Ninja action+ no other actions or no actions)
No Result(Targeting Ascetic)
Gunsmith:
Your target has a gun(Cop, Mafia)
Your target does not have a gun(All townies except Cop; Night 2 Backup Cop)
No Result(Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop)-
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Not Known 15 Mafia Scum
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No, apparently not..
7 Vanilla Townies
1 Town Odd-Night Cop
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop
1 Mafia (Ninja Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Non-Consecutive Night(Ninja Backup Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Informed
Results:Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Normal.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
At least one person recieved this Role PM.
#808080). Do not use it.
This is my color
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
Cops:Town on all townies except Night 2 Backup Cop, Not Town on all mafia.
No Result on the Ascetic.
Watcher:
You saw X and Y visiting your target.(e.g. Factional kill+Cop)
You saw Y visiting your target.(Factional kill/Cop)
You saw no one visiting your target.(Ninja action+ no other actions or no actions)
No Result(Targeting Ascetic)
Gunsmith:
Your target has a gun(Cop, Mafia)
Your target does not have a gun(All townies except Cop; Night 2 Backup Cop)
No Result(Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop)-
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Not Known 15 Mafia Scum
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Ok. This should fix the remaining problems. However, this info will obviously boost scum win chances. I changed the Gunsmith to Odd-Night and the Backup to Night 3.
(If the Gunsmith dies Day 1... well that's a horrible error by scum with potentially catastrophic results, but these are well deserved)
7 Vanilla Townies
1 Mafia Goon
1 Town Odd-Night Cop
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop
1 Mafia (Night 1 Informed) Odd-Night (Ninja Gunsmith)
1 Mafia Night 3(Ninja Backup Gunsmith)
Results:Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Normal.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.
10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Scum has Daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:
At least one person recieved this Role PM.
#808080). Do not use it.
This is my color
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
Night 1 Information:
Cops:Town on all townies except Night 2 Backup Cop, Not Town on all mafia.
No Result on the Ascetic.
Watcher:
You saw X and Y visiting your target.(e.g. Factional kill+Cop)
You saw Y visiting your target.(Factional kill/Cop)
You saw no one visiting your target.(Ninja action+ no other actions or no actions)
No Result(Targeting Ascetic)
Gunsmith:
Your target has a gun(Cop, Mafia)
Your target does not have a gun(All townies except Cop; Night 2 Backup Cop)
No Result(Ascetic Night 2 Backup Cop)[/quote]-
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