DkKoba's Mini Normal Review, March 2022

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1x Even night jailkeeper
1x Tracker
1x odd night cop Neighbor
1x Neighbor
1x Miller
5x VT

1x Mafia Mailman
1x Mafia Neighbor
1x Mafia Goon

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Primary: mastina
Secondary: Ircher

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My own heuristics are that town needs roughly 3 quite good roles, or 4ish reasonable roles, to fight against an all-goon scumteam.

This scumteam is essentially all goons, and the neighborhood can easily swing either way in terms of balance, so looking at the real roles here there's 2-shot gunsmith, even-night jailkeeper, motion detector. Yes, 2-shot gunsmith is a pretty good role, but it's certainly not in the upper echelons of power with being gated to 2-shot and not being able to fully trust its innos or guilties. Yes the gunsmith "can" catch 2 scum but their a priori odds of doing that are like... roughly 3/12 * 2/11 = 1/22. Not something to count on when looking at balance. Swing sure but yeah, any investigative role at all is fundamentally swingy.

The other roles on the other hand are pretty weak; even-night JK is likely to get maybe 2 uses off, can't stop any useful scum roles, can stop useful town roles (particularly the gunsmith's second shot) and lacks half the utility of a regular JK that can reliably shut scum off when there's one left. Motion detector is in the very bottom echelon of useful roles; it simply has very little power at a baseline.

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neighbors aren't considered vanilla, UB can inherit it. Technically something like a neighbor cop is a multirole. They're just another one of those roles that you

can

formalize in a lot of ways but whichever way you pick you're gonna confuse someone.

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For the purpose of this setup I'm saying this is correct:

Going by the wiki, the normal guidelines section for universal backup says it inherits any non-vanilla role of the same alignment. A neighbor would return a non-vanilla result to a vanilla cop, so it should be able to be inherited.

In general I'm just saying that there's a formal notion of a multirole in normals and technically something like a neighbor cop was in a bit of a grey zone in terms of legality before that notion was introduced. It was allowed but I was always not really sure why, iirc.

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Yeah, it's mostly just I don't want there to be no game in signups and there's never a guarantee of how long any given step of the process will take. Rest assured as soon as we're good here this game will be teed up (unless one of the mods who haven't been available comes out of hiding)

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Yeah, it's mostly just I don't want there to be no game in signups and there's never a guarantee of how long any given step of the process will take. Rest assured as soon as we're good here this game will be teed up (unless one of the mods who haven't been available comes out of hiding)

Hilariously, I just received a PM from one of them lol. so you might be up next or after Cat Scratch Fever.

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Entering signups.