The One That I Cannot Kill [it's FINALLY done]
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So I kinda forgot the game was happening, but I've played this setup a couple times in sitechat before, (and modded them, too) and usually it doesn't matter who gets lynched first, just because if you get town, you get a confirmed townie, and most of the time by the first couple minutes based on who's working with who and so on and so forth. I saw the votecount and it looked like it was him or you. I knew if I voted you I'd either get scum and p much win, or I'd get town and you'd shoot him (killing scum). That's how it goes pretty much every time. So I flipped a coin that would only land heads up.
I get this setup mixed up a lot, though, with SS3 (and also every time I skim this I think townies are perma one-shot lynchproof) which is why I posted like I did at beginning of day 2. I know you know I'm town, cuz if you didn't think I was, you'd have shot me yesterday. Let's lynch RC and win this thing for the homies?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 25, northsidegal wrote:from a moderator point of view i guess2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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if i was one of the townies it would have gone very differently
when i replaced in i was sure that one of the scum was scum and scumreading the other heavily and had several townreads on people that weren't already universal trs2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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i don't think that being complacent and assuming that i'm just going to figure out you're locktown without you showing it to me is a mistake on your part.
right now i'm definitely leaning scum who over scum you but i don't know that and that's something that i'd want to know before i did anything
i would look very ridiculous if i gave scum you a win here after all2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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from my point of view reading people off of the actual game mechanic unless i'm getting lynched and deciding what order for people to vote me is a mistake because i think i can generate reads more reliably off of standard play2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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i mean, i think my lack of having voted and pushed the game forward is more due to the lack of content from both of you than it being a conscious decision on my part. do you think i ought to be more forthright than i have been2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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yes that is what i meant. i still think you're town but i'm still hedging long enough to make you post more stuff just in case my gut makes me want to reeval.In post 53, northsidegal wrote:i'm going to assume your first line was meant to say that it would be a mistake --
that's why i decided against it? or rather, i brought it up specifically because i had considered it as a good strategy but decided against it. if i was going to do it i probably would have just done it and not said anything.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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what i'm saying is
if i'm getting lynched i'm going to have the person that i think is more likely to be scum position themselves to get confscummed trying to vote me and use the game mechanic that way
but otherwise i am making zero effort to sort either yourself or who off of "well this person looks like they are playing around the game mechanics by doing X"2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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what i'm saying is
if i'm getting lynched i'm going to have the person that i think is more likely to be scum position themselves to get confscummed trying to vote me and use the game mechanic that way
but otherwise i am making zero effort to sort either yourself or who off of "well this person looks like they are playing around the game mechanics by doing X"2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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who i'm just about ready to vote you right now (or save my vote for after nsgs to play around onewhocannotkill). you have not posted anything that reads as solving and you've just kind of straddled the middle2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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my philosophy as of about a year ago and how it has differed from past philosophies
is i don't use untested reasons to scumread people
i scumread people off of stuff that i have empirically seen be scumtells. i don't decide that certain behaviours are scummy based on out of game principles. it's cost me a few early scumreads but it has made my overall reads far more reliable
i don't actually know exactly what scum in this setup looks like so any read there is going to be untested whereas i have a fairly large body of work that i can use to read you and who off of standard play that has been tested2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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But you should have reads or something? And NSG should be less towny igIn post 71, Who wrote:
This may surprise you, but it turns out that I am shit at scumhunting.In post 69, RadiantCowbells wrote:who i'm just about ready to vote you right now (or save my vote for after nsgs to play around onewhocannotkill). you have not posted anything that reads as solving and you've just kind of straddled the middle2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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this doesn't sound like a very effective strategy versus me.In post 82, northsidegal wrote:
i would say that, if i were scum this game, i would be going for far more of a wisdom-esque playstyle and sticking mostly to making more posts that would probably be one linersIn post 75, RadiantCowbells wrote:but NSG isn't exactly being tested overly hard right now if she's scum
plus a lot of other stuff'd probably be different given having a lynchpin2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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yes. if you go after the wrong person you still only have a 50% chance of it coming into question and if you go hard against someone early it's fairly easy to say "well I wouldn't have gone after the [one I couldn't kill] like this if I were scum"2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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i mean
i just think it's really obvious that i'm townier than who this game. i'm not sure how this line of reasoning helps you see that if you haven't. but i guess i don't have a 1-1 understanding.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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based on what evidence do you say thisIn post 141, Who wrote:
I think that it's more likely that he's unable to hammer me. But I think that this difference in probability is not great enough for it to be significant.In post 134, northsidegal wrote:Who, if you think RC is scum, do you think it's more likely that he has to lynch you, or me?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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