Mini 1591: PFs Flavorless Normal (Game Over)


User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:56 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

In post 1697, I Am Innocent wrote:If u think I'm scum, me providing links doesn't work (scum IAI will show scum games different from my play style here and town games similar to my play style here).

What would you define as the difference - then I can do the research and see if it backs you up?
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:01 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

In post 1698, singersigner wrote:In any case, to be honest I don't read farside's arguments so much as I read the emotion behind them as town. I have a hard time believing that scum have to try very hard to push anyone in this game and yet she and cyberbob are uncompromising because they believe they are without a doubt right.

Could be a crazy ploy but yeah, I feel like scum could easily justify either wagon and not be pressured nearly as much as they seem to be today.

You get this frowny face :( for complaining about me trying to figure out Farside apparently with no actual traction of your own to discuss.

Also, can you point m to where Cyberbob or Farside really felt bought in emotionally o you? I don't get that from either of them, yet am getting it from Sleepy in spades and you apparently don't get it from him because you didn't mention that. Just looking at the game from the point I came in I see Sleepy being loud, proud, aggressive, and focused about his thoughts, but paired with awareness of other things - that reads as town to me. Cyberbob basically stated hi thing, backed it up a bit, and then left in a huff the didn't feel obviously real and could have just been a fake way to avoid having to defend anything for days on end. He reacted to me saying 'I'm not sure' about his case by giving up on me? When his case is at L-1? To try to force through a deadline lynch? I didn't feel any buy-in there. Farside is focused, and is making cases, but the cases seem hollow considering the similarities between the two wagons and Farside not even discussing why one is good or bad besides making the meta claim about scumhunting, a claim she backed up awkwardly and with, in my opinion, a pretty clear showing of dishonesty in how the evidence was being presented that makes me question the motives all the more.

What are your thoughts?
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:02 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

I can tell u I've three times self voted as town, and made it to the end game in two of them (all three games town won)

As scum I once crumbed a cop role as a mafia traitor, and didn't get one town, but two town mislynched on my 'investigation' results lol. That was a classic that the scum team was nominated for a scummy.

Which sounds more like the IAI of this game
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:04 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

Neither.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:04 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

I tend to try to stir things up as town, which sometimes gets me attention like this
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:08 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

Your claimed scum meta had you fakeclaiming a cop - that doesn't tend to suggest that you're a wallflower when scum.
I'll agree you're not a wallflower in this game, but clearly your playstyle is a bold one - so I don't think that's something that is different depending on your alignment.
Are you saying it is? Like, you're not bold when scum?
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:10 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

I also found you claiming scum when scum.
And being pretty aggressive as scum.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:16 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Will you vote cyberbob when I flip town?
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:17 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Dessew, RC, pops, same question for u.
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:17 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Want this on record
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:24 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

In post 1707, I Am Innocent wrote:Will you vote cyberbob when I flip town?

Well, I will admit I'm voting you actually to learn about Farside, insomuch as I think your alignment and Farsides' are likely pretty identical. I have not been particularly sold on Cyberbob, but neither have I been on Singer. Barring other info I'd probably vote one of them if you flipped town though. If you flip scum I'm voting Farside.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:26 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

So when I flip town u will vote cyberbob, correct?
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:29 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

Okay;

"When you flip town I promise to sheep your read till at least L-1 on Cyberbob tomorrow barring any other role revelations."

That's as good as you'll get from me.
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:30 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

Frankly, looking at the current wagon, depending on who hammers, he'd be my only scumread voting you - so it's pretty much a lock if you are town.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:48 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Don't be fooled by a fake claim, but fair enough
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:49 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Pops, dessew, RC, ur turn.

If u all give me the right answer, I'll self hammer even
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:09 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

No you won't unless you're scum.
If you self hammer I promise to just vote park on Red Coyote for the rest of the game until he or I are dead.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:13 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Lol ur stubborn
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
User avatar
User avatar
Squirrel Girl
Mafia Scum
Mafia Scum
Posts: 2217
Joined: November 1, 2013

Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:18 am

Post by Squirrel Girl »

I also like wagon analysis, and also don't like having to debate if self-hammer claims are coming from scum as a trick, because by the time you figure out it wasn't a trick, a town has gakked up a wagon and self-hammered. So I basically refuse to listen to them and attempt to create a situation where we ignore that they were offered.
User avatar
Goofyd00d
Goofyd00d
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Goofyd00d
Goon
Goon
Posts: 356
Joined: May 3, 2014

Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:21 am

Post by Goofyd00d »

If IAI flips town and pops wins as scum I'm going to be a sad panda.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:23 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

What do u think about the wagons on reinoe and Drew? I've been blasted by most players here for my thoughts on those wagons.
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
SleepyKrew
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
User avatar
User avatar
SleepyKrew
he/him
Snark Attack
Snark Attack
Posts: 15746
Joined: April 27, 2011
Pronoun: he/him
Location: quack

Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:23 am

Post by SleepyKrew »

In post 1719, Goofyd00d wrote:If IAI flips town and pops wins as scum I'm going to be a sad panda.

???
How does an IAI mislynch = a pops scum win?
To be clear: quack
User avatar
farside22
farside22
Mafia Mum
User avatar
User avatar
farside22
Mafia Mum
Mafia Mum
Posts: 35785
Joined: October 24, 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY

Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:28 am

Post by farside22 »

Has squirel explained why pops is not scum based on meta?
I'm a bit busy for the next 2 days so someone needs to follow up on that.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
User avatar
I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
I Am Innocent
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5726
Joined: February 3, 2010
Location: Massachusetts

Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:31 am

Post by I Am Innocent »

Just another thought if I'm the lynch and a non investigative role dies N2, I would suggest no lynching to 1) get to an odd number of players & 2) giving a potential investigative role one more night to investigate.

My guess is if there is 3 scum we likely have an investigative power, with 2 scum not, but an extra lynch.

Just something to think about
Show
Town 21-21-1
Mafia 10-6

Replaced Out (Town) 1-5
Replaced Out (Mafia) 3-2 (incl hydra game with Nero where I flaked)

Ongoing
None
User avatar
Goofyd00d
Goofyd00d
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Goofyd00d
Goon
Goon
Posts: 356
Joined: May 3, 2014

Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:51 am

Post by Goofyd00d »

In post 1721, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1719, Goofyd00d wrote:If IAI flips town and pops wins as scum I'm going to be a sad panda.

???
How does an IAI mislynch = a pops scum win?


I knew someone would take that wrong, was hoping for once I wouldn't have to account for slip happy people. I just meant if that happened, not that it would happen tonight.
Locked

Return to “Completed Mini Normal Games”