Mini Normal 1817 - Dank Meme Mafia (Game Ended)

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VOTE: Beeboy
For reasons I'm not allowed to talk about

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Also hi Art, Murdercat and Postie ^_^ nice playing with you guys again.

I played with you before

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aristo
Hasn't been back

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OK serious vote now. I clearly stated that I wasn't allowed to talk about it. He's trying to get me modkilled so that there is one less townie for him to deal with.

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OK serious vote now. I clearly stated that I wasn't allowed to talk about it. He's trying to get me modkilled so that there is one less townie for him to deal with.

Lol I figured you were just saying that. Regardless, I didn't ask you to explain your secret reasons, I asked you why you would vote him with his Miller claim. I have never and will never bait a Mod kill, as that is just shitty. Nice to know you think so highly of me though.

Just screwing with ya man
Edit: Fucking hell tha

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t pedit made me jump

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Obviously don't tell us if it is relevant to you now.

Don't worry bud I'm not that dumb

I would expect nothing less from Dwlee "the legend" 99's brother

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Luna
Seems like really forced buddying on Postie

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Luna tries to find town as scum like she does when she is town but when she is scum she isn't transparent about her reasoning because she has none.

VOTE: Luna

Sorry friend

wouldn't being scum allow you to have transparent reasoning because you know for sure people are town? Also she is being pretty transaparent as is

The reasoning isn't transparent as the person might not have done anything particularly towny but are being townread for buddying reasons

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@Dwlee
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Mafia may have day talk without an encryptor as long as it is public info is a quote in here

I really do not want to mess up and slip info. Therefore I will be contacting the list mod.

Nerd

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Wait I'm the second oldest player in the game. Wow.
Postie is probably town, so is beeboy for the day talk stuff. Dragon might be town as well?

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Feels like we're finally making some progress here.

UNVOTE: IV
VOTE: Aristotle

Autocorrect has spoken. You shall henceforth be known as Aristotle.

Any reasons?

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Lack of content?

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Nope. Try again.

Buddying?

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Nope.

Seeming faked?

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Postie is probably town, so is beeboy for the day talk stuff. Dragon might be town as well?

Explain these reads in more detail please.

You seemed to be putting the most effort into solving the game, which gave you a townread. Beeboy didn't have any reason to post the day talk stuff as scum. Dragon felt very natural earlier and I don't think that scum who are new would be that confident.

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Here's a breakdown of "Postie's effort":

Votes a player and asks them why they are being scumread.
Gets paranoid of me
Asks me for a scumgame and doesnt reach a conclusion (yet).
Votes you and asks you for why you're being scumread.

Her paranoia looks town, but you dont seem genuine.

BURN

Beeboy didn't have any reason to post the day talk stuff as scum.

What about to look town?

Dragon felt very natural earlier and I don't think that scum who are new would be that confident.

Highlight the posts that felt natural and/or "confident".

It isn't worth it for scum.
You tell me.

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Your vote is still on Luna Fox. What do you think of my reasoning in 167?

It depends. If it was genuine then it was townie, but it could've been faked. That being said
UNVOTE:

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Loving the new avi Luna ~
Getting the dotw posts now Postie

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Spoiler: dotw posts that seem natural

Hello everyone!

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

When I was in high school, some of the other students had a running joke about alpacas that never made sense to me.

Wow and this guy comes up in here with a clearly offensive name not respecting the fact that some people might have an alpaca sensitivity. #triggered VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

Agreed. So who haven't we heard from yet? Just Dierfire?

Nevermind he was here early on. Just didn't see it

Obviously don't tell us if it is relevant to you now.

Don't worry bud I'm not that dumb

I think Aristophanes is pretty towny and I'm wondering how seriously to take beeboy's miller claim

What has given you these feels?

Haven't played with you or read through your games, but just the feeling of you seeming genuinely at ease. In small talk and stuff like that you just come across as rather natural. Not that it's always AI but, ya know, early reads gotta start somewhere

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Try.

Because you like scumreading town for funsies?

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In post 267, Postie wrote:
In post 261, randomidget wrote:
Beeboy didn't have any reason to post the day talk stuff as scum.

What about to look town?

In post 261, randomidget wrote:
Dragon felt very natural earlier and I don't think that scum who are new would be that confident.

Highlight the posts that felt natural and/or "confident".

It isn't worth it for scum.

It is if it gets them townread

I meant that I don't think scum Beeboy brings it up/thinks to bring it up

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Spoiler: dotw posts that seem natural

Hello everyone!

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

When I was in high school, some of the other students had a running joke about alpacas that never made sense to me.

Wow and this guy comes up in here with a clearly offensive name not respecting the fact that some people might have an alpaca sensitivity. #triggered VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

Agreed. So who haven't we heard from yet? Just Dierfire?

Nevermind he was here early on. Just didn't see it

Obviously don't tell us if it is relevant to you now.

Don't worry bud I'm not that dumb

I think Aristophanes is pretty towny and I'm wondering how seriously to take beeboy's miller claim

What has given you these feels?

Haven't played with you or read through your games, but just the feeling of you seeming genuinely at ease. In small talk and stuff like that you just come across as rather natural. Not that it's always AI but, ya know, early reads gotta start somewhere

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Try.

Because you like scumreading town for funsies?

Why are any of these more likely to come from town than scum? And what about the ones that made you say he seemed too "confident" to be scum?

Dwlee should probs be V/La right now, he is busy with some stuff but I think he should be back later today

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Forgot I had that quoted -_-
Postie, i'm not going to keep answering pointless questions that you throw at me to fake activity.

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Forgot I had that quoted -_-
Postie, i'm not going to keep answering pointless questions that you throw at me to fake activity.

Asking someone to explain quotes doesn't really seem like a pointless question

Hasn't changed much

There:

MURDERCAT
AlpacaAlpaca
611
Dragon of the West
randomidget
Saru

kraska77

innocentvillager

Then add Postie

What took IV off the list?

I am having a hard time coming up with content for this game since basically my only reasons for not thinking people are town is the lack of activity #irony, I still have no real scum reads unfortunately however I am town reading Ari, Kraska, Dwlee and Luna right now

As Dwlee's manager, please direct any complaints to me.

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Forgot I had that quoted -_-
Postie, i'm not going to keep answering pointless questions that you throw at me to fake activity.

Asking someone to explain quotes doesn't really seem like a pointless question

Hasn't changed much

There:

MURDERCAT
AlpacaAlpaca
611
Dragon of the West
randomidget
Saru

kraska77

innocentvillager

Then add Postie

What took IV off the list?

I am having a hard time coming up with content for this game since basically my only reasons for not thinking people are town is the lack of activity #irony, I still have no real scum reads unfortunately however I am town reading Ari, Kraska, Dwlee and Luna right now

As Dwlee's manager, please direct any complaints to me.

Sooo my point was "Asking someone to explain quotes doesn't really seem like a pointless question" because you said it was pointless when Postie asked you but it seems like good form to explan your reasoning if you have it

It felt that Postie didn't actually care about the answers and was asking them to try and poke me.

The reason I asked you to tell me in which posts DotW felt natural/confident is that I can't find any posts in which he sounds like either of those things. I'm finding comment about him being "confident" particularly baffling because he's sounded like the exact opposite to me throughout the entirety of his ISO.
I'm trying to sort you here; engage with me.

Getting the dotw posts now Postie

Spoiler: dotw posts that seem natural

Hello everyone!

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

When I was in high school, some of the other students had a running joke about alpacas that never made sense to me.

Wow and this guy comes up in here with a clearly offensive name not respecting the fact that some people might have an alpaca sensitivity. #triggered VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

Agreed. So who haven't we heard from yet? Just Dierfire?

Nevermind he was here early on. Just didn't see it

Obviously don't tell us if it is relevant to you now.

Don't worry bud I'm not that dumb

I think Aristophanes is pretty towny and I'm wondering how seriously to take beeboy's miller claim

What has given you these feels?

Haven't played with you or read through your games, but just the feeling of you seeming genuinely at ease. In small talk and stuff like that you just come across as rather natural. Not that it's always AI but, ya know, early reads gotta start somewhere

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Try.

Because you like scumreading town for funsies?

Why are any of these more likely to come from town than scum? And what about the ones that made you say he seemed too "confident" to be scum?

Postie, i'm not going to keep answering pointless questions that you throw at me to fake activity.

Me: Can you provide some examples of X and Y because I can't find X and saying you see is Y comes across as scummy because I'm literally seeing the exact opposite
random: Okay here is X
Me: Okay but what about Y
random: Umm I'm not going to answer your totally

fake

questions you scumlord

Can we lynch this now

I forgot about the X and Y thing. I thought you were complaining that I wasn't explaining why X was X which would be facetious. Finding Y.

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Hello everyone!

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

When I was in high school, some of the other students had a running joke about alpacas that never made sense to me.

Wow and this guy comes up in here with a clearly offensive name not respecting the fact that some people might have an alpaca sensitivity. #triggered VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

Obviously don't tell us if it is relevant to you now.

Don't worry bud I'm not that dumb

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

EBWOP: ^_^

Okay time for serious content

VOTE: Dragon of the West

Tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.

Lol I don't have the slightest clue

Try.

Because you like scumreading town for funsies?

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1. This was quite an aggressive entry. Obvs a joke but brings attention to him.
2. Easy tone, seems comfortable.
3&4. Not put off by early scumreads.
5. Similar to above, not particularly bothered about scumreads.

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Saru is probs town

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Wow all the warnings going out this game.

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Dwlee rules with an iron fist (he told me that in a private message).

b&

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VOTE: Dwlee

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Most of my posts were about dotw because Postie kept asking me questions about my read on them

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Yay another game with over 10 pages in 1 night! Will read up later

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I'm not active lurking by choice, I'm active lurking because the energy levels i have for this game are being used whilst reading up.

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VOTE: kraska
That readlist was sooo safe

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Nvm in that case -_-

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Eeps

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Fucking called i

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Ftr i'm not the vig

VOTE: aristophanes

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I make that l2

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UNVOTE: wtf saru

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That was supposed to be separate to the unvote. The main reason to scumread him was his interactions with 611 and kraska

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I honestly am inclined to believe Ari's claim. He claimed to have shot kraska way after Saru claimed follower with kill result on Ari. I get Saru's argument that claiming vig as scum might've been the best thing, but I've been townreading Ari all day 1 and I still think that claiming off the bat a role that happened to be completely uncced and in accordance with Saru's result is unlikely.

Like my take on the whole Ari thing is:

vig!Ari makes sense.

scum!Ari was the most fos'd for a bit due to associatives, but I think it would've been weird to claim vig as scum. If he was going to gambit, what if a tracker or something else indicative was on him instead of follower? That would show that he killed DotW instead of kraska. But more importantly, after seeing kraska dead, he would know that there is a vig or SK in the game somewhere. He would get counterclaimed by a vig and autolose, or the SK would stay silent. I'm not 100% sure on the theory, but I doubt that letting the SK know who you are as scum is a good strategy. So scum!Ari makes almost no sense to me.

sk!Ari is more possible than scum!Ari. But all of the votes that were plopped on Ari due to associatives with 611 and kraska make no sense anymore. Also, if Ari is SK, I feel like there's probably an investigative role somewhere that can confirm it, or if not, we can always deal with him later if he kills two townies randomly or something. Plus, if we catch scum and the game's not over, if the only possible third party is SK and only 1 scum remains, then Ari is obviously SK and we autowin.

So, I think we trust Ari for now.

Alpaca/kraska interactions look slightly forced, and also both 611/kraska townread him while scumreading each other, but I'm not sure if it's just confbias/laziness to read the whole thread or what.

Ftr i'm not the vig

VOTE: aristophanes

How did you know there was a vig and not a SK at this point in the game?

Because Kraska was an awful SK shot. There was a decent shot at kraska being lynched today tbh
VOTE: iv
Baaaaaa

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Dier is town

I assume this was you softing your result, IV?

Yeah, actually, IV has basically claimed full cop so this is no longer a great lynch. If he's town, scum are going to night kill him, especially if we decide in-thread who he's targeting and that person is scum.

VOTE: randomidget

Lynch this, Ari vigges Alpaca, IV tracks Luna? We could also have both Ari and IV target Alpaca in case scum have a roleblocker.

Bad vote.
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Calling it now aristo Saru scumteam.
Saru really makes sense as scum here.
Their push on aristo was never going to go through if they both claimed PRs. They were in a nasty position and this push could make sense as a gamble.

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Ignore that post, I forgot the vig shot -_-

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We are indeed masons.

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Mc and dier are better shots out of that set.

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Saru gets NKed tonight if he is town

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I think its Postie

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: dierfire
L-1

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Dier would have NKed Beeboy (is what beebster is saying

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GGWP