Mini 1469: Rage (Game Over)

[Naomi-Tan]

yeah, i'm not reading those walls. If you want to give me a tl;dr then that'd be cool, or i can just not know what was said, but yeah.

...comon at least read it...

[surviva316]

No, we may not, but we likely do and there are better targets now anyway.

[surviva316]

^ Talking about whether we will have a Day 4.

[implosion]

yeah, i'm not reading those walls. If you want to give me a tl;dr then that'd be cool, or i can just not know what was said, but yeah.

...comon at least read it...

No.

When a single page manages to have 6 or 7 walls, they are no longer worth reading, especially since a significant portion of it is just back-and-forth. I have neither the attention span nor the patience to get anything useful out of them. I could read them, but I would be wasting my time.

As long as Yates is going to play the obstructionist, my vote isn't leaving him unless it's for a damn good reason.

[Shamrock]

Prod dodge, been watching TI3, will post tomorrow.

[morph the cat]

Opportunism detected.

Actually, I hadn't noticed this. And that's not serra's style as Town.

VOTE: Serrapaladin

#irony

We need to talk. I will be around in about 5 hours.

[Team Rocket]

Given you think serra is scum do you think his vote on Cheery was distancing or a vote on another townie?

Well, my scumread on cheery is stronger than my scumread on serra, so I'm not really sure, but I could definitely see it as either distancing or just attempting to stay on the "popular" wagon.

[Team Rocket]

btw, last two posts are ac but I've been forgetting to sign.

[Yates]

@Mod -

Due to RL issues, I will not have the bandwidth to dedicate the appropriate level of play to this game for the next 2-3 weeks. As much as I hate to do this, I believe I need to replace out for the good of the Town. I will continue to post as I can until you find a suitable replacement or if things should change on my end.

[Kalimar]

Two days to deadline. :/

[Team Rocket]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: serrapaladin
Votes are spread too thin.

[surviva316]

Assuming there won't be an extension while Yates replaces out, a vote on someone who doesn't plan on posting anymore today seems like a bit of a deadended train. I still like a TR lynch and still think lynching serra is just about the worst thing we could do today.

VOTE: Team Rocket

[implosion]

Unvote

VOTE: Team Rocket

[Kalimar]

Yeah, I think TR has a good chance of flipping scum even if only for setting up the false bussing scenario with Nul and CD. The somewhat static reads don't help, though on the Town front he does remind me of ToastyToast and could just be scummy Town... but he's a pretty easy mislynch in possible LyLo if he's Town and with a decent chance of a scum flip I think it's a good lynch.

If he does flip scum I wouldn't put TR bussing CD out of the question, just because of CD's weirdness in relation to the TR wagon today (implying the scum-read had persisted at the start of the day but not really wanting to lynch TR for unconvincing reasons).

If TR flips Town Yates is also probably Town because of that replacement request. With an easy scum win on the horizon if TR flips Town, Yates-scum could just lurk it out to a win. If TR flips scum, meh.

Vote: Team Rocket

[Kalimar]

Yates and serra seem to have history, so the fact they're both scum-reading each other (ish) is probably worth exploring more, even if it's with Yates' replacement. If one of the two is scum I don't think I could confidently call which now. Yates has given some weird arguments today but I almost think he believes in them... and serra's been a little hedgy today despite a stronger start on day one. My wariness level has gone up with Yates a bit since part of my Town-read lay on Effulgence's reasons and now Yates has gunned for Shamrock (MS's slot) his 'meta-based reasons for unvoting MS' don't seem so genuine anymore...

I don't really want to lynch serra before I would want to lynch morph as morph and serra have interacted a lot in thread (usually atypical of scum partners - though there's a first time for everything) and with a bit of cautious dubiety towards each other. As long as my morph scum-read eclipses my serra scum-read I won't really want to lynch serra first.

[Kalimar]

Also, I know this is ironic after posting a couple of my longer posts, but if we could make an effort to make posts a bit more punchy and concise, that would be appreciated. Walls should be for special effect, not as a standard, imo.

[implosion]

Yeah, I think TR has a good chance of flipping scum even if only for setting up the false bussing scenario with Nul and CD. The somewhat static reads don't help, though on the Town front he does remind me of ToastyToast and could just be scummy Town... but he's a pretty easy mislynch in possible LyLo if he's Town and with a decent chance of a scum flip I think it's a good lynch.

If he does flip scum I wouldn't put TR bussing CD out of the question, just because of CD's weirdness in relation to the TR wagon today (implying the scum-read had persisted at the start of the day but not really wanting to lynch TR for unconvincing reasons).

If TR flips Town Yates is also probably Town because of that replacement request. With an easy scum win on the horizon if TR flips Town, Yates-scum could just lurk it out to a win. If TR flips scum, meh.

Vote: Team Rocket

I don't think Yates' replacement request has absolutely any bearing on his alignment. It sounds like it was just him doing the outside-of-the-game right thing.

Also, I know this is ironic after posting a couple of my longer posts, but if we could make an effort to make posts a bit more punchy and concise, that would be appreciated. Walls should be for special effect, not as a standard, imo.

QFT

[Shamrock]

So I still think lynching Team Rocket is the best course of action for today. Unlike pecan, about whom I suddenly started having doubts towards the end of D1, there's not much in Team Rocket's posting today that indicates they could be town. If you take a look through their posts, there are token responses to cases being made on them and, other than that, there's no real attempt to try and figure out who the actual scum are. They say they're willing to be the mislynch if their death provides information, but at the same time they don't seem to have any real interest in providing analysis or information to the town before they die. I don't see any evidence of an organic thought process behind their posts, there's just position-taking on serra and CD and no attempt to actually discern anybody's alignment. And that's not even getting into how horrible the vote on this page is.

Someone should hammer.

I'm not really interested in reading the tea leaves on Yates's replace-out, but I do still think that slot is scum too.

[GuyInFreezer]

vote count 2.10

morph the cat (L-6):

Shamrock (L-6):

Cheery Dog (L-6):

Naomi-Tan (L-6):

serrapaladin (L-3):

Cheery Dog | Yates | Team Rocket

Surviva316 (L-6):

Yates (L-6):

Kalimar (L-6):

>

Team Rocket (L-1):

Shamrock | serrapaladin | surviva316 | implosion | Kalimar

implosion (L-6):

Not Voting:

Naomi-Tan, morph the cat

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Until deadline: (expired on 2013-08-07 11:00:00)

Mod Notes

• I'm back!
  
• Will search for replacement for Yates.
  
• serrapaladin has been prodded.

[Team Rocket]

Final thoughts it is then...
think the scumteam is 3 out of Cheery Dog, Shamrock, serrapaladin, surviva316, morph the cat...I feel most strongly about Cheery Dog and serrapaladin. Naomi-Tan is either town or an SK or I'm an idiot. (Alternatively I'm an idiot no matter what)
See y'all in the post game / dead qt (if there is such a thing)

Not self-hammering out of principle, but if it gets down to the wire on the deadline I suppose I will
-ac

[Cheery Dog]

just because of CD's weirdness in relation to the TR wagon today (implying the scum-read had persisted at the start of the day but not really wanting to lynch TR for unconvincing reasons).

I haven't said anything about me not happy with Team ROcket's lynch, yes I haven't voted that way yet today, but that was mostly because I wanted other discussions to still be happening and/or find his teammates.

Now we have Yates replacing out, so I'm going to leave the hammer off for the moment so we can maybe get the replacement's start of thoughts before the day ends.

[serrapaladin]

serrapaladin has been prodded.

Well, this is embarrassing...

I still think TR is the only reasonable choice for today, but I'll take another look at this tomorrow.

The fact that fery seems to have a similar impression of Elyse's meta is a bit worrying. For me, it's not a particularly strong one given that she only has the one completed newbie as scum, but if we both have that impression it's at least worth exploring.

[Naomi-Tan]

I feel that they will flip town, but, I hope you guys are right. Today I've had little to no scum feelings towards anyone so Im hoping that this will at least be more revealing to help lead me in the right direction.

[Team Rocket]

I am so so sorry I am a terrible hydra member. I've been away the past two weeks and have had little to no cell service and no wifi. I came home yesterday and my damn Internet is out. Verizon is supposed to fix it soon but they haven't yet. I've been concentrating on other games since AC can post here but I feel awful and I'm truly sorry. My play this game has been awful and I hope town can turn it around.
-Elyse

[serrapaladin]

Going through D2 again:

Excellent entrance by surviva. The try-hard walls are really townie, and actually good content.

Also, given that GM is town and eff's last words were that magua was convinced at least two of {ppp, gm, tr} were scum, I think effulgence would likely be alive if tr were town, at least for today, given that scum would probably expect them to push a mislynch (this assumes that the mafia killed effulgence). I can frankly see GM as a vig kill or an SK kill, by the way.

This was my first thought, too, except I could also see good scum offing eff when all of his scumreads are town so they could open with this argument to secure two mislynches (scum likely had no reason to believe GM would also die).

TR defaulting to attack the universal null/scum-read Cheery is predictably bad. The reasoning for surviva is worse:

Just for full disclosure here are my (Ac, not necessarily same for Elyse)'s reads
Scum - Cheery Dog (because of gut, his interactions with Nul, and POE)
Maybe Scum - surviva316 (

Naomi's case on Reecer6, plus his walls look a tad bit manufactured and don't really say anything new

), Yates (gut)
Null - serrapaladin (although post 819 looks a tad bit like buddying so if surviva ends up being town that could put this in the maybe scum pile), morph the cat
Maybe Town - implosion, Shamrock
Town - Naomi-Tan
-ac

I'm getting the feeling implosion is over-selling the whole 'telling TR to not give up and play the game' thing. It's worth noting that implosion was called out on sort of coasting behind eff's reads end of D1 and started posting more, but not necessarily more content.

Not sure what more to say at this point...
My townread on Naomi is wavering, based on her recent posts just generally not being constructive.
-ac

Not sure if TR-scum would bother with any sort of read-progression at this point. Gut reaction says no.

939 and 947 by cheery are weird. He votes Yates, based on some misguided meta attempt, only to unvote immediately.

I'll stick by my statement that TR is the best lynch for today.

Both halves of morph are still avoiding any of the major arguments going on, which I'm worried about. Yates' aggressive response to people pointing out his inactivity is off, but I guess makes sense with his replace-out.