Mini 2308 | Blood over Utopia | Utopia fell.

[marcistar]

sorry but uhm why dont we try talking about why we want what we want
it seems some of us are split.

i think cenus and something else are currently most useful but who knows :shrug:

[marcistar]

will you be the sacrifice then?

[marcistar]

Intelligentia

what about that one? i dont see why it would be bad to know how many scum there is

[marcistar]

i think you'll be hard pressed to find someone who actually wants to be sacrified, everyone wants to play!

[marcistar]

lowkey i think we should do one of marriage and jury and then something else

[marcistar]

whats 3 and 4

[marcistar]

why would printing press be useful instead of just... unlocking the things?

[marcistar]

i like trading outpost idea actually

but also ive sold myself on the appointed jury for ?? reasons. i think an extra vote will be fun.

quick! how do i use hurt tags

[marcistar]

HURT: trading outpost

[marcistar]

but doesnt it seem like we know roughly what we'll be unlocking based off whats already in each category?

i think printing press is a waste

[marcistar]

here i was thinking you seemed townie based off your ambition, but i just dont agree with unlocking printing press.
i think cat scratch having this thought about printing press before i did is +t probably.

[marcistar]

Are those 4 the only categories there are gonna be?

i assume, but i didnt ask

[marcistar]

i dont quite know what i think about merlyn yet.

[marcistar]

What do you suggest then? I'm not voting for printing press. I think we need to take two projects though and this is what I thought would be best.

Scum probably also needs to spend $ to unlock more actions like we do then right?

(ill be out now, gotta work!)

[marcistar]

VOTE: PenguinPower

do you have any reasons here? or is it just random?

my first thought was that you voted penguinpower because they voted roden,
but if thats the case I want to know if you're seeing something im not.

[marcistar]

he did,
but i think he changed his mind? it seemed like he changed after talking to merlyn.

[marcistar]

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

if i can be so bold as to say my very valid opinions,
i think this is sussy.

[marcistar]

why hello there
VOTE: devil bc satan is sus

I banish thee to hell for being a non-believer.

VOTE: SirCakez

Also, wouldn't Neighborhood Watch be good?

-Drew

woukdnt it be good to get neighbourhood watch when we're down a scum so they dont have time to plot evily on their comeback?

[marcistar]

whats ur ideals here then

trading post and ?

[marcistar]

why do u want it

please convince me because i dont see it

[marcistar]

yeah thats what im saying! its good but since we can only do things once i feel like we need to save it

if we remove it now wouldnt it be an advantage to them to make them seem more townie?

[marcistar]

maybe i need to read a book or something one day soon

because damn apparently i dont know how to read

[marcistar]

aureal i wanna marry you omg

[marcistar]

maybe Printing Press is a better vote today and then we can do Trading Post tomorrow? Election Security or Intellegentia would be a good second.

HURT: Printing Press

I don't think printing press is worth it roden

Think about it! Do you think the game will end so quickly? No right?
We have time to unlock each of the options to gain more, so by going printing press its just setting us back since we can only do one development.
We will have to gain more money and unlock more stuff eventually, so why not get started on it now instead of just wasting time to gain info on what they are? We'll simply gain the same info once we unlock the next stuff anyways.

ups the daily budget to $70,000.

implies that its a permanent fix, otherwise "daily" wouldn't be there, and instead it would be worded like "the next days budget". This is why trading outpost is still worthy enough to waste our time on.
It'll be shitty to unlock cool new stuff just to not have the money for it, which is why trading outpost is the one thats most useful to unlock first.

printing press will waste our valuable time please please please listen to me kind sir
it'll take longer just to achieve the same result!

[marcistar]

Okay then i still think there is merit to using sacrifice today, everyone votes it so it’s basically the day lim with 20k added on and the development we want is voted by 2 players.

If the next tier of unlocks is 70k+ we still get to push it through without using the trading post.

if we do sacrifice ill vote for you to be sacrificed since you keep pushing it <3

[marcistar]

Sacrifice ($0)

-- if target Utopian is not an Insurgent, they die and town gets $20,000 more in tomorrow's budget.

vs

Trading Outpost ($20,000)

-- ups the daily budget to $70,000.

theres a difference in wording

sacrifice is a one time gain, trading post is not.

sacrifice is so beyond useless right now, why are we AIMING to get a townie killed when we should be preserving our numbers? sacrifice will be much more useful when we KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE $$

[marcistar]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

[marcistar]

im pretty sure we can still do a regular lim? where are you getting this from

[marcistar]

but its more likely we wont

and theres no guarantee we'll find a use for the money

[marcistar]

I understand that the bigger budget is permanent, it's why I voted for it at first. I just think the reasoning for getting the Printing Press first also makes sense. Like what advantage do we gain by getting the bigger budget Day 2 instead of Day 3 vs getting more info for spending options Day 2 instead of Day 3?

what advantage do we get of getting printing press instead of literally anything else

[marcistar]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

[marcistar]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

I am getting a very phony vibe from marci, personally speaking.

-Drew

From my experience, her tone usually comes off that way regardless of alignment.

its probably because i am phony

[marcistar]

its been a few months

but i dont see how that relates to anything

[marcistar]

bro even if you asked me rodens style i wouldnt be able to tell you when i say i have a failing memory, i have a failing memory

i think that what he did is scummy though and i stand by that. if you want i can put it in simpler terms for you though
"go king give us nothing!"

[marcistar]

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

and not pushing to find out info anywhere

[marcistar]

1. ive played with them both before
if i cant remember shit about roden how am i gonna remember shit about someone more inactive than him

2. yes, why would scum not want to "appear like theyre here while doing nothing"?

[marcistar]

proceeds to assume everyone plays optimally

[marcistar]

proceeds to assume everyone plays optimally

Nah, this is a cop out.

You can't call someone scum, and then when challenged on your read act like the victim

-Drew

Pre Edit: That is my point Cat, what is AI about it?

its not a cop out its sarcasm.

not everyone plays good just because they have experience. i think we should be basing things off this game, and nothing has happened so far to make me think hes playing optimal.
not to be mean, but yeah.

[marcistar]

in general i just come off very confident.
if i was super solid on it i would be sitting on it but i thought it was at least a good starting place to discuss actual reads instead of mech.

[marcistar]

Can I ask people voting for Trading Post to explain what combinations they want to use which would require the extra budget? I feel like there's just been an assumption we're going to need them.

since trading outpost is permanent itll help when we unlock more roles i think

[marcistar]

idk im a whore for money but im willing to unlock anything that isnt printing press

[marcistar]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

It's a little early for that to be an issue, I think.

I think I only have like two games with him and they were a while back, but in the one I remember most I was scum vs town!Cakez and your description doesn't sound far off from his play there. He caught me pretty early on so I know he can hunt when it comes down to it.

isnt cakez a "good player" though?? drew seems to think so at least!

if drews confident hes town then im confident cakez will come in and give us some hella good reads to make me change my mind!!!

cakez will lead us to victory! everyone needs to believe in our angelic god cakez!!!!

[marcistar]

*Answer your question at least from Marci's perspective

I'm kinda eh on whether a "self-conscious" tell is AI - I feel like it'd vary from person to person more than anything - but saying Cakez is experienced doesn't really make sense unless you're saying he's too experienced to drop a tell like that

I am just saying it is AI, unless you think Cakez is a noob......then maybe I get the read.

But it is a super weak reason to scum read someone, especially to the point where you are looking for their buddy(s).

And then when getting some pressure from me, start acting dismissive.

Pre Edit: Marci, calling someones in game play isn't mean.....just wait until you see what I am capable of lol.

But I just don't understand how you can make, what seems to me, a solid scum read based off that one Cakez post unless you have some solid meta read on them.

-Drew

Mod

we are voting Snivy as well.....though I think I misspelled their name lol.....so VOTE: Snivy

Fixed

So you pushed Marcistar pretty hard there for a minute. This post doesn't feel like you're sold on her responses, but I notice you've kept the snivy vote. What's the reasoning?

maybe because ill just laugh in response LOL

[marcistar]

*Answer your question at least from Marci's perspective

I'm kinda eh on whether a "self-conscious" tell is AI - I feel like it'd vary from person to person more than anything - but saying Cakez is experienced doesn't really make sense unless you're saying he's too experienced to drop a tell like that

I am just saying it is AI, unless you think Cakez is a noob......then maybe I get the read.

But it is a super weak reason to scum read someone, especially to the point where you are looking for their buddy(s).

And then when getting some pressure from me, start acting dismissive.

Pre Edit: Marci, calling someones in game play isn't mean.....just wait until you see what I am capable of lol.

But I just don't understand how you can make, what seems to me, a solid scum read based off that one Cakez post unless you have some solid meta read on them.

-Drew

Mod

we are voting Snivy as well.....though I think I misspelled their name lol.....so VOTE: Snivy

Fixed

So you pushed Marcistar pretty hard there for a minute. This post doesn't feel like you're sold on her responses, but I notice you've kept the snivy vote. What's the reasoning?

Snivy was the first person to make me say 'oh so they are scum'.

Marci I don't like either(nothing personal, you seem very pleasant as a person lol), consider my vote on them in spirit.

-Drew

vote me? what are you so scared of???? or oops maybe you dont actually think im scum! you're so so confident but OOPS!!! WHERES THE VOTE HONEY XX

who knows maybe itll really set things into full motion
or maybe you'll get me to crumble under the pressure!!! i know you want that!!! whats the downsides since im cleary scummy

dont be a scaredy cat!!

i dont agree with the snivy read yet

[marcistar]

how is snivy scummy

and thank you i really try to convey my emotions well to my audience. i'll give you my autograph when game ends so you can have bragging rights.

[marcistar]

how is snivy scummy

and thank you i really try to convey my emotions well to my audience. i'll give you my autograph when game ends so you can have bragging rights.

Their really really wanting to push Sacrifice through today pinged me hard, and even when I tried to explain why it isn't a good idea for today, still want it pushed through.

Like I said to Merlyn, first time in the game I was like 'oh, so they are scum', and ya it may not ping others the way it pings me(just like some people disagree on my read of you), but I still stand by it.....even if I can't get a lim on either of you I don't want things that I perceived as scummy go by the wayside.

-Drew

i dont even think he was pushing it that hard it just felt like he wanted to talk about the possibility.

[marcistar]

HURT: appointed jury

[marcistar]

what are you responding too please i thouht we made it clear i only have 1 braincell

[marcistar]

i still dont like cakez LOL

[marcistar]

marci do i kind of look like the cat in your pfp

yes i love cats

i still dont like cakez LOL

so vote him?

i feel like we've been over this before...

[marcistar]

VOTE: sircakez

[marcistar]

i dont think the mod wouldve lied so early on lol

[marcistar]

roden whos scum uwu

[marcistar]

No idea

I still think Merlyn might've TMI'd you and Devil and I think her way of reading you is too clinical. Overconfidence is NAI for you, in my experience how townie you are depends on how hard you hit the slay button. But I can also tell that our back and forth was going nowhere and it's better if I just disengage and observe for now.

You/Aureal/Devil/RC are my town reads right now, CSF/Leaf/Meow/Nurse/Penguin/Cakes are in my null stew pile, Merlyn/Snivy are under my watchful eye.

I don't think merlyn was all that scummy so far. She was pretty higher on my townreads list, though I do see spots where I think she could possibly be faking ignorance. I thought most of her stuff seemed genuine enough that I wanted to ignore that, I think shes one of the main people pushing the game "the direction they want", so I thought they couldn't be scum.
Aurueal isn't exactly a townread for me anymore, but isn't a scumread. Does it make sense? I think they dropped off.

How isn't meow a townread? I think they seemed pretty engaged in the game since the second they replaced in.

[marcistar]

i think knowing if the mods lied or not is the least of our worries tbhs

[marcistar]

you continued to bore me duh

[marcistar]

Camel, my strongest town read, so sussing out a few of the people pushing there.

why is camel such a strong townread

[marcistar]

can we just vote cakez out pls

[marcistar]

bcuz hes scum

[marcistar]

bcuz hes scum

I'll rephrase then, why do you still think he's scum?
If it's the same stuff as before, then I'll just agree to disagree because I don't find any of that scummy.

- Alianna

no the reason is because he hasnt done anything that i find towny enough to doubt my original read. hes 100% scum

ILL MAKE SURE TO LIST YOU AS A SCUM ENABLER IN MY VERY EXCLUSIVE READSLISTS THAT I NEVER MAKE

[marcistar]

tbf im only being "hounded" by 2 players im not worried

I felt like marcistar, Merlyn, and meowmeow had hounding energy.

Purely a Vote does not = hounding, but i felt energy coming at you from all those slots.

Some are fair to do so, but the fact 5 people became immediately interested in that isn’t nothing.

OMG ASKING WHY SOMEONES BEING TOWNREAD IS HOUNDING

[marcistar]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

not feeling anything AI from anyone yet so I'll sit on my rvs for now

and not pushing to find out info anywhere

Like okay this stuff is valid I understand where's she's coming from. But that was like five days ago.

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

It's a little early for that to be an issue, I think.

I think I only have like two games with him and they were a while back, but in the one I remember most I was scum vs town!Cakez and your description doesn't sound far off from his play there. He caught me pretty early on so I know he can hunt when it comes down to it.

isnt cakez a "good player" though?? drew seems to think so at least!

if drews confident hes town then im confident cakez will come in and give us some hella good reads to make me change my mind!!!

cakez will lead us to victory! everyone needs to believe in our angelic god cakez!!!!

There was this post which was just whatever.

i still dont like cakez LOL

VOTE: sircakez

can we just vote cakez out pls

bcuz hes scum

And then the remainder is this riveting scum hunting here. Your read literally has not progressed at all but you act like you've solved the game already. Pretty lame push.

well yeah i have no reason to change away from you when youve done nothing to make me doubt my read

like who even ARE your "scumspects", all i see is you complaining you dont have any!!

[marcistar]

It reads like a discredit, but Marci's case is nothing and you're pretty much saying it's nothing. So it's like...it feels like you're looking for an argument with her. I think it would make more sense to look at the other people on your wagon who either followed Marci or came up with their own reason for voting you.

And this, yes I am discrediting her push and saying it's nothing. I don't really care if I get in an argument tho, ig it could help me generate more reads.

Is she town bad pushing you or scum bad pushing you though

I'm not sure yet, it's hard for me to tell cuz I'm just kinda annoyed with her and that's clouding my read

I don't think there was anything wrong with that vote on me really, other then like obv I'm town and they're wrong bur that doesn't make them scum. Basically same thing with Marcis push I think its bad but it doesn't necessarily= scum

I don't think that there's an open and shut case on you or anything, but what posts are you thinking about that I missed that make you obv town?

I meant that from my PoV like I know the vote is wrong but I understand why it was made and it was reasonable

you can continue being annoyed until you actually do something i think is townie

[marcistar]

what even was the reason flavor leaf flipped into pushing cakez? because this lowkey feels weird and makes me want to unvote if anything LOL

[marcistar]

lol ok

[marcistar]

if you cant read, i dont really see how thats my problem?

[marcistar]

this wont work on me lolol if anything itll make me encourage an elimination on myself

[marcistar]

youre trying to convince me to fight back and flip my reads on others to "appease my haters", trying to make me dig myself into a hole. but i literally give 0 fucks.

[marcistar]

this wont work on me lolol if anything itll make me encourage an elimination on myself

but again, noting the lack of acknowledgement on the Cakez reasoning, you can read call out.

It's just as I expected, you don't really have any defense, so you're playing defeatist, lol discredit.

Lazy strategy.

like i said if you arent gonna read rhen i wont help you

[marcistar]

yEaH mArCiS sCuM hErE

[marcistar]

youre trying to get me to keep going flippity floppity on my cakez read

[marcistar]

hahahha but i already explained it honey

[marcistar]

marcistar go "hehe vote me you clowns" and is serious about it when town
but marcistar go "hehe vote me you clowns" and gives reads and tries to gain sympathy through emotions when scum :3

[marcistar]

wow i forgot how iconic i was for a min

[marcistar]

wait i didnt even notice that lol

[marcistar]

vote cakez then

[marcistar]

vote cakez then

Can you vote Snivy please? I think Cakez is town here.

why do u think snivys scum then cuz idk nothing pinged me there

[marcistar]

just move your vote you shouldnt worry too much just vote who you think scum is

[marcistar]

I still think FL is scummy I don't really buy his excuse that he was faking his entire interaction with me as bait for scum - that was not even close to the impression I got from those posts

knowing absolutely nothing about him i assumed it could be true or could not, wasnt realyl sure.

[marcistar]

vote cakez then

Can you vote Snivy please? I think Cakez is town here.

why do u think snivys scum then cuz idk nothing pinged me there

He isn't doing anything and cares more about surviving the vote than trying to vote out scum. As opposed to you and Cakez being potential elims today and at least trying to scum hunt. I feel that both of you are townie and slots I can read going forward, and I would rather keep the both of you around.

im confused is it not usual for towniews to want to save themselves

[marcistar]

i say if we're doing sac we sac cakez or maybe one of the 3 less influential ones

u rlly arent helping ur case huh bestie

[marcistar]

tiebreaks by seniority prob means whoever reached the number of votes first yknow

though i probably wouldve been the elim yeah because im stubborn and refuse to save myself when it goes on me and i view it as unfair LOL

[marcistar]

i hope marci answers my questions. i suppose it'd be somewhat karmatic if she didn't but i'm a cat which i think should earn me points

what question

i didnt see any i think i missed it

[marcistar]

OKAY MAYTBE IM A BIT DUMB I DIDNT KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE SAME POST I THOUGHT YOU POSTED SOMETHING EARLIER ON

[marcistar]

how strongly would you say you townread engagement normally?

also what's your read on flavor leaf / cakes rn?

I READ BASED OFF OF COLD HARD VIBES
engagement? does not matter IT DEPENDS ALL ON THE VIBES OF WHAT YOU SAY YKNOW YKNOW SOMETIMES THOSE VIBES JUST AINT GOOD! i dont even remember what i was thinking at the time of the post youre quoting! but i think it was just that nothing seemed ulterior motives or some shit like that.

i think honestly out of flavor leaf and cakez i would rather go flavor leaf because i think theyre bsing their posts, and the switch from cakez onto me just felt like too fast of a switch. but also i like my cakez wagon because it pisses so many people off. i dont know if i even fully trust that flavor leaf is scum or if im blinded there and theyre just an idiot! but i think theyll be in for a fun surprise later on!
cakez has been meh, it hasnt really improved too much in my opinion.

any other questions?

[marcistar]

If anyone thinks that’s townie, says something about you.

They could be town, but it’s not townie

i read based off of cold hard vibes

[marcistar]

i do have a very good idea of how i play as either alignment yes

but its hard to prevent my scum traits from shining no matter how well im aware of my town game

[marcistar]

Marci’s refusal to work with them when I was trying to find reasons to town read them more is just another reason I think they lean scum.

I could see them being new town and not knowing how to work with people, but it’s still my strongest read so far for where scum is, and I think that’s a fair read.

I’m taking everything others say into consideration for sure

if you cant read i cant help you what else can i say

im not newbie im pretty rad at the game

[marcistar]

@Infinity - you see why I’m scum reading Marci?

I just don’t see the purpose of them doing any of that as town.

I actively read every single one of their posts, and their ISO looking for their reasons, quoted them at them, and they just shut down acting like I haven’t read their posts.

There is zero reason for me to town read that, lol

They’re scum who knows I caught them outright, and shutting me down and walking off any of my attempts to actually work with them and try to town read them, but they’re trying to ‘idiot shame’ me based on calling them scum?

That’s conditional responding.

And incredibly new player syndrome to do

i dont enjoy trying to drill stuff into the head of someone who just will never listen and will sus me no matter what

[marcistar]

too bad town doesnt wanna do sac

can we actually just sacrifice me since apparently im such a problem

[marcistar]

I get that marci isn't being cooperative, but I'm not convinced that's actually scum-indicative.

- Alianna

im only cooperative to people who arent bsing their suses on me....

[marcistar]

I’ve like actively tried to work with you multiple times, and I’m kinda done at this point.

how are you actually trying to work with me though?

i said it, im a vibe based player

but you still continue to tunnel on me

[marcistar]

i feel like you just dont like me flavor leaf... maybe you could always try asking me about other reads but youre obsessed with my cakez read for whatever reason when i already claimed it was weak and based on vibes.

thats why i was telling you to just read.

oh no i never actually wanted to work with you though... i feel like youre too tunnely for me to actually want to work side by side with. but it does hurt my heart how you dont understand me at all... like im trying my best here dude, but im not gonna keep repeating the same shit over and over again based on you wanting more info for an early game push.

[marcistar]

i feel like you shouldnt be expecting everybody to respond well to pressure though

like i know i always just stop playing when i feel like im being sused for bad reasons... oh wait!

[marcistar]

oh but then whats all this? im confused

you look like youre tunneling here?
why are you not listening to me if youre a flip flopper...

[marcistar]

Your fucking Cakez reasonings are ass, and I didn’t suss you because of it.

my "fucking cakez reasonings" were early on when nobody else was brave enough to sus anyone out but go off honey <3

[marcistar]

y'all i forgot how stressful mafia is

done for the night but flavor is probably scum

Fuck off, i am never fucking scum acting like this on day fucking 1 of this game

why are you so mad! you should take a step back and calm down its just a game!

[marcistar]

Your fucking Cakez reasonings are ass, and I didn’t suss you because of it.

my "fucking cakez reasonings" were early on when nobody else was brave enough to sus anyone out but go off honey <3

Okay, what were they?

you continuously quoted them im pretty sure you know what they are already

do you genuinely not know though i will tell you if so

[marcistar]

girl why would i bother explaining something when ive already explained it before

you saw the reasons

and they were not confusing at all, you could see exactlywhat i meant there

so why explain more?

[marcistar]

Like you could have just said that from the very beginning, and all of this would have been avoided

maybe you couldve also tried metaing me but here we are...

[marcistar]

I THOUIGHT IT WAS OBVIOUS

WHY WOULD SOMEBODY WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME

[marcistar]

wait when did i ever call him names im sorry it mustve slipped out

[marcistar]

what are these thoughts about sacrifice

can we please just not sacrifice yet!!

[marcistar]

infinity wagon better than snivy wagon but idk i havent read muxh of the reasonings yet

[marcistar]

idk i lowkey think 25% is pretty high odds of it flopping lol

[marcistar]

idk what i wanna do yet

[marcistar]

omg he put me in pink <3

[marcistar]

ngl i dont like ur confidence LOL

[marcistar]

Aureal and Marci both have tried to sway energy away from that, and I definitely feel like it’s because the risk of me being conf town gets significantly higher.

yeah i very explicitly saw people saying its scummy to go against using tortue, and then decided to go against it anyways?? so so scummy of me
bffr bestie

[marcistar]

you can continue tunneling me if you want, but you realize that doesnt actually do anything to help right?

[marcistar]

Aureal and Marci both have tried to sway energy away from that, and I definitely feel like it’s because the risk of me being conf town gets significantly higher.

yeah i very explicitly saw people saying its scummy to go against using tortue, and then decided to go against it anyways?? so so scummy of me
bffr bestie

Noting the shade attempt.

you can also note how i naturally shade people all the time.

theres no reason for me to not be shading you here when im not enjoying this

[marcistar]

i liek thinking about different angles and is 25% not pretty high smh

[marcistar]

you can continue tunneling me if you want, but you realize that doesnt actually do anything to help right?

I’m not even really pushing you.

Why are you feeling so much pressure simply being in my pool?

I’m more focused on Aureal atm.

But good to know it’s hitting something

constantly shading me, is still tunneling me despite the fact you arent voting me. dont play dumb <3

[marcistar]

You’re hyper defensive right now.

have you ever considered the fact that i dont want to deal with this anymore <3

[marcistar]

please sacrifice me guys xoxo

[marcistar]

someone asked me something bnut i forgot what it was

[marcistar]

someone asked me something bnut i forgot what it was

it was me dammit lol I asked you for reads!

im not really sure tbhs
i would have to iso people

[marcistar]

bruh i just spent the past however long isoing only like 4 people and now i want to go to bed when does the suffering end

[marcistar]

no

[marcistar]

lets power through me today make me the lim

because flavor leafs mean

[marcistar]

wagons dont really inspire me to want to do more tbh

[marcistar]

marcistar is an anomaly that nobody can read!! much more useful if shes just dead and out of the way instead of distracting town

+

also helpful because of lack of having to deal with flavor leaf anymore!! XOXO

[marcistar]

Spoiler: i dont accept any questions from my loyal haters, and yes im scum

meowmeow - t, i feel like jasonwazzas early posting was pretty townie now that im looking back at it.. its wild because i remember being annoyed at the time LOL
(#258, #262, #291, #309, #533, #614 etc etc etc) seem town motivated
#392 is a weird post though.
but overall most of their posts seem fine, so im fine with just thinking theyre town since YALL ARE MUCH HARDER SINNERS THAN THIS!

Merlyn - i actually og thought town before isoing, but now im more thinking scum but idk im not confident xoxo.

Deal With The Devil - i would say n, but if i had to pick anything... i dont really see any good argument to say that theyre townie?

Enchant - i dont really overly like the things random nurse did while he was here, but enchants hard to read so im not sure how to deal with that.

flavor leaf doesnt get the luxury of getting a read (mainly because hes going so hard after me, that that can cloud a persons vision. its prob town stubbornness but also how would i fucking know?)

RCEnigma - i dont really see whats so scummy of them, so i think its pretty townie right now.

camelCasedSnivy - n, ls

cakez doesnt get the luxury of a read either, but since its already well known XOXO

Aureal - n

Hu Tao - t, based off roden

Cat Scratch Fever - t, based off what my memory has, i dont wanna continue isoing i just wanna play val!!!

[marcistar]

marci if you're like willing to listen to me, i'd like to hear more about your thoughts on cakez and aureal?

the cakez read is sodraining to explain but i just feel it in my bones so i decided to stop with explaining it all together since nobodylikes that read.

did you read my spoiler thingy btw because im too drained after writing that too LOL

[marcistar]

I went back and looked through Marcis most recent games. This gameplay definitely reminds me of her play in anime music, including where she kind of just stopped playing (although that was towards the end), and she was town in that. The only scum game I read was one where she was a Hydra with gamma emerald- she was a lot more engaged in it though maybe that's bc she was hydra-ing.

I can see where I could be wrong, it's meta with a player I've never played before. But I haven't really seen a good case to lim her either. Is it a bummer that she's not really playing that much? Yeah. But I just don't see that as ai. Id rather go snivy or aureal.

i was town here, its my most recent game LOL

i did! i think your comment on rce sort of resonated with me since i feel similarly, which is what prompted me to ask about him here. you just gave aureal a 'n' and i don't know like if you were just sick of playing at that point, but like i think aureal is an interesting slot with a relatively high probability to be scum so i would like to hear your thoughts there. same with cakez really. and i guess devil but i know any push there or even skepticism of their posts will just result in fl talking about how scum are breaking up the supertownbloc so if devil is scum they might have to come later

the aureal is because its like... i can see their posts as either alignment? like it looks townie but when i think about how it feels YKNOW YKNOW? not good vibes.
my cakez read is because i have high hopes on him, but its not being reached! cakez is the best player on mafiascum.net afterall!
devil one i think how i explained it is all i can offer im sorry, dont even remember what i said but i stick by it!

[marcistar]

sigh

[marcistar]

sigh

Okay I'm good to vote Marci after this, are we set for whatever the projects are? Incase of self hammer

literally what do you expect i already gave reads lol
but i assure you i wont be self hammering why would i ever do that

[marcistar]

I dunno you seem very resigned to dying when I felt like you cared a lot more earlier in this game

earlier in the game we didnt have flavor leaf