mini theme 2315 - love child (game over)

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Alianna

She told me she hates ducks

[Doctor Drew]

Never trusting the yellow M&M again.
Even with a cop inno.
If there's a cop inno, I'll just assume you're godfather.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Why is Drew the yellow M&M?

I realized I forgot to respond to this, but Drew can explain that reference.

I kinda forgot lol, I think she is just calling me scum.

The yellow m&m.gif was from a scum game of mine....and I posted it a lot since then.

Pre Edit: Back in the day newbie games would have an IC, in addition to the two SE's as well. Basically someone who was a fully established player here. Cannot remember what it stood for lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Why are you claiming mason right out the gate?

Suspicious post by you Ircher

join my Ircher wagon, mason buddy?

Suss

[Doctor Drew]

inexperience challenged

i am probably wrong but

Yes! That was it

[Doctor Drew]

Alisae will post a yellow M&M reaction image sometimes

The yellow m&m was created in the Demon Slayer scum chat that Ali and I were both a part of.

She posts it sometimes, but I really ran the joke into the ground lol

[Doctor Drew]

we got the first 1 hour and 56 minutes out of the way, time really flies huh.

you all having fun?

Yes mom.....jeez.

[Doctor Drew]

I actually have a scumread page 5. This is so weird.

My vote stays on you then.

Also, I am legit suss of Broccoli.

[Doctor Drew]

I actually have a scumread page 5. This is so weird.

My vote stays on you then.

Also, I am legit suss of Broccoli.

Drew locktown (but only after you explain your sus on me)

I won't explain my suss on you

Pre edit: My vote on Alianna is 100% serious as well......

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, I can't pocket Alianna at this point

Pre Edit: Why do you need to know why I suss you?

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: Why do you need to know why I suss you?

methinks building a case and convincing others of it is part of how mafia is played

I would rather them expose themselves........it is early D1, this isn't me saying they are lockScum

I just have a a reason to suss them

[Doctor Drew]

viewtopic.php?t=91553

I think I am most proud of this scum game.

Defeated Alianna, Aureal, Python, and a list mod lol

[Doctor Drew]

Never trusting the yellow M&M again.
Even with a cop inno.
If there's a cop inno, I'll just assume you're godfather.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Why is Drew the yellow M&M?

I realized I forgot to respond to this, but Drew can explain that reference.

I kinda forgot lol, I think she is just calling me scum.

The yellow m&m.gif was from a scum game of mine....and I posted it a lot since then.

Pre Edit: Back in the day newbie games would have an IC, in addition to the two SE's as well. Basically someone who was a fully established player here. Cannot remember what it stood for lol.

inexperience challenged

i am probably wrong but

Yes! That was it

inexperience challenged

i am probably wrong but

Wrong context. That's IC in the newbie queue.

For Titus

[Doctor Drew]

i am a mason i just do not know who my town partners are or have a neighborhood with them

Played in a bastard game where I was mason....with no partners.

The struggle was real.

[Doctor Drew]

I no longer am interested in voting Broccoli

Wait, you were interested in voting me? i cry everytiem


P-edit: hi Doctor COOL, do you have any game advancing reads other than Alianna is scum? Not that I dispute the fact that she could be scum

Who is this Doctor Cool? I must dispose of them hastily.

Honestly, less suss on you at the mo. Haven't really sink my teeth into everyone else as of yet though(ironic because I could definitely sink my teeth into some broccoli as we speak)

[Doctor Drew]

Can I interest you in comparing ircher's ISO here with his ISO in Veiled Committee Mafia?

Oh God, I do not want to read that game.

Can you give me the gist why you think he is scum here?

Was there something about an OMGUS??

[Doctor Drew]

I actually might give Ircher a look in Veiled Committee, I would like a reason to vote him.

You brought up Defcon, still bitter he nuked me......I was confirmed town!!

[Doctor Drew]

Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh

She just came into the game, this is a weird vote.

And yes, I want to play with Titus so would prefer to let her cook at the very least. And we both had a bit of a lax attitude when it comes to D1.

Yes I am protecting her, come at me bro.

Oh wait, Ircher is voting her too.....you cost me a win in Defcon, may you be nuked forever

VOTE: Ircher

[Doctor Drew]

i

what is that with afrayed

i mean i am not sure it is alignment indicative but still

I know. its so disconcerting, Qwwwak

I can appreciate their posting.

[Doctor Drew]

Aureal might be scum. That defense is awkward.

Aureal is awkward lol

[Doctor Drew]

mod note: hiiii

hello

Schadd, no Tommy Edman HR tonight.

Get out of here.

[Doctor Drew]

I think it's part curiosity as to what will happen, and part fear that the mafia will garner too much information from a longer day 1 and have a clearer path forward. 15 pages may be low to the point where it becomes pretty problematic for us long-term though...

How does a short D1 help scum at all?

They would prefer the less information made public (outside of a town PR claim) the better.......since if you are town you are uninformed.

Ultimately the longer the day with more people posting is better for town.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, thank you for the edit HPE.

My brain likes to have two thoughts going at once and started to writes how does a short day help town, and switched to the other thought mid sentence.

Also, I like this assertive HPE, it is growing on me as town

Pre Edit: Meuh making that post makes me think town may be on the wrong path, and they want to end the day before we get on the right path

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: Meuh making that post makes me think town may be on the wrong path, and they want to end the day before we get on the right path

You think it might be scum-indicative then?

Long of of saying yes from me lol

[Doctor Drew]

Ircher (6) - Hu Tao, Doctor Drew, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Broccoli Quest 2, Afrayed Knott

the fact this wagon is composed of 2 of my higher level scum reads... really makes me have a hard time believing ircher flips scum

lol oops typo - ircher is never flipping scum here with that wagon comp

I only feel weird about Broccoli.

How about we kick the tires on Meuh?

VOTE: Meuh

[Doctor Drew]

Ircher (6) - Hu Tao, Doctor Drew, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Broccoli Quest 2, Afrayed Knott

the fact this wagon is composed of 2 of my higher level scum reads... really makes me have a hard time believing ircher flips scum

lol oops typo - ircher is never flipping scum here with that wagon comp

I only feel weird about Broccoli.

How about we kick the tires on Meuh?

VOTE: Meuh

Broccoli has gotten better, I kinda like them lol

ehhh idk a read on meuh, feel better about titus/afrayed scum

Drew, why are you now interested in going away from ircher?

I am doubting my read on him, and I think Meuh's last few posts are much more damning than what Ircher has posted

[Doctor Drew]

cause it doesn't feel like you have any conviction in this meuh read, it's just like "ok, guess meuh is next!"

Did you miss my response to their posting earlier today?

like, you feel weird about broccoli, but don't wanna talk there? not interested in me saying I think they're town?

We did chat about Broccoli, you said you didn't like the composition of the Ircher wagon, I said Broccoli is the only one I feel weird about there

not sure it feels like you're trying to find scum tbh

That is very strong assumption to make for someone who has had no interaction with me until literally these last few minutes. Why didn't you have an issue with my vote on Ircher when I literally said it was based on wanting to keep Titus alive and wanting to gain revenge on Ircher for nuking me in Defcon? So you are fine for some shady reasons to vote Ircher, but ignore actual reasons I have to vote Meuh?(and to be clear, I have trouble reading Ircher and wanted to see what happened with some pressure on him......but like I said, not feeling so hot they are actually scum)

VOTE: drew

I am glad I don't have a duck like you in my pond.

Pre Edit: Well you are certainly moving your way to more obv scum now Meuh.

This is a fun coordinated attack from you two, it is fun actually

[Doctor Drew]

So fun i said it twice lol

[Doctor Drew]

Are you accusing Andante of being scum here??

Does that upset you?

Pre Edit: Oh it does, what do you make of Adante briefly voting you then?

[Doctor Drew]

I can see the scum me angle but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me

The only person??

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, are you actually calling me scum here?

Not in so many words, but if it walks like a duck....

[Doctor Drew]

All vagueness aside.......you were fine with voting Meuh.......and that all of sudden were dead set against it.

Just after I said that the wagon composition isn't that bad on the Itcher wagon, besides maybe Broccoli, and voiced my own doubts about Ircher as scum, and hated Meuh's 'vaguely scummy posts'.......so I wanted to move off a stale wagon, if for anything to pump some action into the game, and maybe get some reactions.

And boy oh boy are we getting some.

Titus, I need you to vca this for me lol

[Doctor Drew]

you were fine with voting Meuh

was a joke vote for the beetlejuice, as I said earlier, 0 read there

Seemed like she also knew it was a joke at the time as well, she wasn't too worried about your vote........

......if it Quacks like a duck, is all I am saying

Pre Edit: Ircher was still at E-1, I have been somewhat lurky this game......I could have ridden that mis lim as scum easily.

And how do you have such strong conviction in your, apparently multiple, scum reads on what you even admit is a DEAD game?

[Doctor Drew]

i highly doubt anyone even joins me with afrayed lol

You might say they are.....afraid

Couldn't resist

[Doctor Drew]

hahahaha ok drew is town

My main goal in any game is making sure we can all have some fun lol

And how do you have such strong conviction in your, apparently multiple, scum reads on what you even admit is a DEAD game?

Titus and Afrayed had TERRIBLE entrances, enough for me to have strong conviction they're both scum, it's kinda as simple as that. I haven't seen anything to change my thoughts, like they haven't imporoved. Entered like scum, stayed the same. thus, they are scum

It's OMGUS bexause you are voting my

mason partner

!

Totally legit claim btw

Impossible, me and HPE are already masons

No. Me and my brother are masons.

Broccoli feels like scum going "ah crap, is andante an IC??"

idk that's just the vibe I get from them with these posts

lol no i feel blessed being in your IC presence.

but im not an IC? like why not just ignore that post.. and carry on

Adante isn't an IC. Despite that being possible misdirection, there's a confirmed mod lie somewhere. I'm ignoring it for now.

Like, Drew... you're trying to tell me town enters the game like this? 200 posts in? nah

Meh, I am not gonna put much AI stock on someone's entrance to a game, especially with Titus who you may be aware.....has played a game or two of Mafia on here.

[Doctor Drew]

Maybe if Afrayed isn't an alt there is some credence to a so so entrance to the game.....but even then, seems suss to call it a strong scum read.

[Doctor Drew]

Seriously tho the last page or so from Drew is weird as hellllllllllll

I figured you would understand me by now.

At least Gamma is picking up what I am putting down.

[Doctor Drew]

This one will probably get your points tomorrow but for now we should have 30 pages of back and forth about why you postin silly

I always post silly lol.

But 90% of the time is with a purpose.

Admittedly, that purpose can be scum driven lol

But, I always try to keep my ducks in a row

Pre Edit: Oh I was a bit slow on the uptake there lol.....but listen, if we have to carry this game I will gladly have a 30 page back and forth with you

[Doctor Drew]

Why are people voting Furt?

[Doctor Drew]

Town

Broccoli
Andante

Null

Everyone not listed.

Scum

Titus

vrej

Btw I feel decent about furrtive rn

Let's form a town blocc with you, me, Furt, and Titus

[Doctor Drew]

Town

Broccoli
Andante

Null

Everyone not listed.

Scum

Titus

vrej

Btw I feel decent about furrtive rn

Let's form a town blocc with you, me, Furt, and Titus

Check the records Drew, that's 2 of my 'unsures'

I'll townbloc with whoever votes AK tho

I will say I feel pretty confident this is townTitus

[Doctor Drew]

vrej

what does this mean ?

b r u h

I would like to know as well tbh

[Doctor Drew]

ircher can you pretty please give me like, a read list or something

Town

Broccoli
Andante

Null

Everyone not listed.

Scum

Titus

This is so funny for some reason

Go YouTube Steven Wright, Ircher basically has the same type of humor.

[Doctor Drew]

Furt, sell me on Afrayed.

Most of what I have read about them is 'their posts as weird'

[Doctor Drew]

Zoink

[Doctor Drew]

Sorry, haven't had a whole lot of Mafia time this weekend.

I fear my Meuh vote isn't doing any good.

But I still don't get the case for Afrayed.

Or Titus

Or Furt

Which means I am not in the correct headspace here lol.

I think I could go for Ircher if it came down to it

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Drew

*honks in alarm, shoves a lookalike Drew statue into place to absorb the vote*

I missed this, much appreciated Aureal. I really do deserve a statue in my honor.

[Doctor Drew]

Is there an actual case for Ircher being scum beyond his posting being bad? Like don’t get me wrong it is, but I still don’t see why it makes him scum (and we should also lim Aureal if bad posting is all the reasoning we need)

I'd argue Aureal has been slightly more engaged despite the gimmick. As for your question, bad posting is usually the main case for someone being scum but I kind of get what you mean.

okay yeah I think Furtive is town this game. Sorry for tunneling you earlier.

[Doctor Drew]

I was confused to see pisskop posting a bunch here, I like this development

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: icher

If it is going to be between Pisskop and Ircher

I choose you pisskop!

For town I mean lol

VOTE: Ircher

[Doctor Drew]

I'll E-1, hopefully we get a claim this time.

VOTE: Ircher

Isn't the rule you don't claim until your at E-1 with intent?

Anyway, I claim cheese connoisseur. Each night, I can target a player to learn whether or not the word "cheese" is listed anywhere in their role pm.

this can be left alive imo

Because of the claim?

[Doctor Drew]

I'll E-1, hopefully we get a claim this time.

VOTE: Ircher

Isn't the rule you don't claim until your at E-1 with intent?

Anyway, I claim cheese connoisseur. Each night, I can target a player to learn whether or not the word "cheese" is listed anywhere in their role pm.

this can be left alive imo

Because of the claim?

yeag

Why does this claim make you want them to live?

[Doctor Drew]

cause that hood thing, hu tao is gonna be scum for sure, but like that’d make pisskop probably town, and this page just screams piss/furtive partners

wut

I feel like I missed something in regards to 'Hu Tao' and 'hood'.

[Doctor Drew]

hu is in a hood with me. its essentially empty.

So Hu hasn't posted in there?

[Doctor Drew]

Oh jeez, glad I didn't talk too much shit in my pond.

[Doctor Drew]

I love the threads leaking, nice touch.

Re-evaluated overnight and developed scumreads on Aureal and HPE.

Aureal looks super towny in the PT though so I'm not as convinced anymore.

Titus and PK remain scum candidates for me.

Talk to me about why HPE.

Also no talk about how glowingly I spoke of you in my pond?

[Doctor Drew]

died of flanderization

i had just started watching a episode of the simpsons at this time

Posts like this make you my favorite mod here, way better of a mod then Sky

[Doctor Drew]

Also lost access to the hoods.

Well I asked a very important game changing question in our new pond.

But I guess you will never answer it now.....

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Aureal

[Doctor Drew]

is now a bad time to say I think the solve is just furtive and hu tao?

disagree on hu tao

disagree on Furt

(But also disagree on Hu)

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Aureal

*offers Elite Bodyguard Drew a seat in the control room of VeggiBird so long as he promises not to honk the self-destruct button*

Better be careful who you try to NK tonight, you know how much I rock that roll.

But I like Broccoli, the vegetable not the player(nothing personal, just game related.... I wouldn't get toxic since I don't know your main lol). I would be weary in that control room.

Pre Edit:
1. I wanted to see Aureal's reaction to my vote, said as much to Hu in our pond. But it seems weird that she is town reading so much here, usually as town she is all up in my beak honking away. Unfortunately her reaction was a bit odd, but I am fine letting her swim in the pond for now.

2. Honestly will have to look back what my issue is with you, I give me a sec on that.

3. From my Role PM I assume I am not a duck, or any water fowl. But in a flavor way I do help one type of water fowl. But it has no bearing on Hu at all unless they are that type of water fowl, which I don't think they mentioned?

[Doctor Drew]

Is there an actual case for Ircher being scum beyond his posting being bad? Like don’t get me wrong it is, but I still don’t see why it makes him scum (and we should also lim Aureal if bad posting is all the reasoning we need)

He's made 17 posts this game. Compare the amount of effort in these 17 posts with posts from his scum games, and then compare with the first 17 posts of town games.

I think I just didn't like how you went after Titus and Furt when they came into the game, seemed a bit like throwing shade at them before they could get started.

But looking back, and specifically reading this post, I do feel better about you. Though I do admire someone who would hard buss like that lol.

[Doctor Drew]

and I'm probably more "alien" to this game than any of us would like because work is absolutely taking all I have and I promise yall it's not getting better next week.

here's a recap of how my reads got to where they are:

I had a readslist I posted in thread, looked something like:

HighPrincessErinys
Meuh
Broccoli Quest 2 -
Afrayed Knott
---
furtiveglance Alianna
Theta Alpine
---
Gamma Emerald
Ircher
Aureal
---
Hu Tao
Doctor Drew
Titus

-------------
Not perfect I know, but when I sit down and truly think about it, it's probably the best we're gonna have. 3 of those people I had 0 read on, they were null, they'd be Gamma, Ircher, Aureal. I had high confidence HPE, Meuh and Broccoli and Afrayed were town for whatever reason I said in thread. That left furtive,Theta,Hu Tao, Drew, and Titus.

So with the nulls, I figure only 1 scum in them, and very likely 2 in the other.

So 1 scum in Gamma, Ircher, Aureal
2 in Furtive, Theta,Hu Tao, Drew, Titus

now, off the top of my head I can't tell you what I even did day 1, but in all honesty I think it's better to go in the pool of 2... slightly better odds..

Then after the flip, and my attempt at some VCA/looking at ISOs, I reached the conclusion that Drew and Theta could never be partnered with Ircher, now we're down to Furtive/Hu Tao/Titus. Hu Tao's ISO screams scum to me, everything about it, and I genuinely don't SR Titus, I actually have reasons that make me TR her, and here we are at a furtive/Hu Tao scum team!

I'm having slight doubts on broccoli yes, but I don't think I'm truly going there till after flipping furtive or hu tao

Why could Hu be partnered with Ircher?

[Doctor Drew]

More townposting will be beneficial here.

BQ2: I'm interested in your insights based on yesterday's posting. Quote some stuff, comment on it - who looks good/bad?

Drew: More explanation of reads would be great. Are you still sure this is town!Titus?

Hu Tao: Get your head out of the PTs and get in here!

Re: Titus

Short answer meh.....as I said in our pond, still don't think it is scumTitus but won't exactly fight to save her.

I have been focused on seeing the scum tells from her, which I haven't really seen......but it isn't a strong case either.

I would, however, like someone to give me a tldr on why she is scum here though.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew might just be scum here. He reacted as if he saw what I was saying but then waffles on me being town.

You said a strikingly similar thing in a game awhile ago where you were scum and I was town.

And the way I treated your entrance/early game play was strikingly similar to this game as well(ie I will sheep you and consider you town from the jump).

I really hope your scum game isn't this transparent, because oopsie daisy I am now waffling more to the scum side of things in regards to you now.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew might just be scum here. He reacted as if he saw what I was saying but then waffles on me being town.

*picks up a lillypad gauntlet in her beak and waddles up to smack Titus and her much guilt in a challenge to explain the cryptic nonsense*

Also didn't realize my vote was still on your Aureal lol

VOTE: Titus

[Doctor Drew]

From ChatGPT Mafia, Titus is scum in these quotes:

Just to say that Titus is sus.

-Mr. G

I promised her many moons ago that I would sheep her and have her back until proven wrong, so gonna need a real solid case on her.

I'm not ready for sheeps yet. I'll let you know when I am.

Spoiler: 1

@BloodB0t, the way that chess game shows pieces in the wrong places is like some demonic incestuous offspring of chess, checkers and time travel. If the intent is to gain advantage by making everyone else's heads ache then job done!

@

Drew not sure I'd go as far as policy limming a hydra

, but I do like the idea of putting hydras under pressure early as I always find them hard to read.

VOTE: Defective Agency

Positioning himself as reasonable

Spoiler: 2

My vote on the hydra was rvs in that I didn't have any reason to vote them based on play (it was page 1!) but motivated in that I dislike playing with hydras. I just find them hard to read (also because I generally don't know the meta of the players in them) plus some of them post too much.

So I figure seeing how they react to a wagon on them could help with reading them plus given the choice between catching a scum solo player and a scum hydra I'd rather the latter.

Never heard of Doctor Drew or the running joke.

I don't see posting chatGPT answers as copying Porkens' gimmick in this particular game (if Porkens does that in other games then it would be if someone does it there).

I am also staggered Defective Agency thought I was being serious with that chatGPT post or in general (until now).

I have a hard time believing they genuinely believed that. My vote stays.

Incredibly safe position to take as scum with the omgus. We're already opposing him, so he just accepts and cements that.

Spoiler: 3

The subplot where on one side, ChatGPT/Porkens says its suspicious for players to cast doubt on ChatGPT -- and on the other, bloodb0t finds Porkens suspicious for practically assimilatign with the AI, seems notable. I don't like bloodbot's repeated insistence against ChatGPT which feels ultimatley like a distraction to me. Like it mostly goes without saying that ChatGPT isn't exactly sherlock holms yet bloodb0t seems to feel the need to discredit it anyway. Poor learning model

On that front, some musings:

Do you think 96 is a direct neutral chatGPT output or is it
Porkens' own content in chatGPT style (perhaps rephrased by chatGPT), or chatGPT told to argue a specific view?

If it's the latter:

Do you think continuing to mix chatGPT and their own content (if Porkens were to continue to do so) is scummy, towny or NAI?

Bonus thought: compare and contrast playing using chatGPT as support (either for private discussion or for content generation) with playing in a hydra


Not really directed at anyone, just musing.

You could have these thoughts in an MD thread or pre-game. Much easier content to put out than your thoughts on other players.

Spoiler: 4

How many scums are we thinking because if it's 3 I've already found them all
Maybe not but I've got it down to [Dei Ex Machina, imaginality, narrow parking, Menalque, Porkens]

Should be 3 and one 3p, at least per the queue post.
Also, I somewhat disagree with that list. Are Dei there chiefly just because of their KT vote?

PE: god, that rap was awful

This was already clarified earlier in the thread (119). And Defective Agency has been following the thread, so the "how many scums are we thinking" in the post bianco quoted here seems like a deliberate attempt on DA's part to appear uninformed.

This is an attempt to get us for 'fake townslipping' which is a really superficial and reachy thing to push us for. I hadn't checked the setup or seen anywhere that it was 9/3/1.

So yeah, bit of a scumcase for you Dei Ex Machina.

My vote stays

-Mr. Glance

Not in the mood to wagon imaginality day 1 as that leads to people doing stupid shit

How so?

See last large theme. Too exhausted to explain.

So you can't be bothered to look up someone's meta that was conveniently linked to, but I have to find meta you allude to on my own?

Might have to put this sheep out to pasture.

I'm a) not using meta to explain alignment and b) what I'm saying requires no thought or belief in meta. It's just facts that happened.

How did you go from sheeping me to "putting out to pasture"?

You also did a 180 which is frankly odd and telling.

Maybe Drew + Porkens.

[Doctor Drew]

I remember when our very own Mod this game faked a guilty as me when they were scum in the Boony game that just ended hoping to get a mislim.

Ya, that was pretty cool.

So VT you say Titus?

[Doctor Drew]

I remember when our very own Mod this game faked a guilty as me when they were scum in the Boony game that just ended hoping to get a mislim.

Ya, that was pretty cool.

So VT you say Titus?

*Faked a guilty on me, not as me.......don't try to steal my identity Sky!

[Doctor Drew]

More scum posts from Titus in ChatGPT, you can basically sub Aureal for Porkenz in these quotes:

This doesn't seem like scum Drew either ngl.

so far...

Ugh. I can't see why people don't see Drew Porkens.

I don't especially like how GrandpaMo was "at the end of today I'm gonna tell you stuff that town NEED to know" and then more recently "oh it's nothing important not a big deal" but I don't think there's any value in pressing on it now.


Re. my Titus read I feel like she might be soft defending me maybe partly to get me on side and also to set up a "told you so, listen to me instead of going for easy wagons" to have more sway on future days when I flip town if I get limmed.

She feels different this game to the last I was in with her (where she was town) but that could be due to various factors (our roles that game, the fact she was sparring with Mathblade in particular, out of game stuff) so I don't place enough weight on the difference to make a meta case. It just feels less reassuring than it would if she felt the same tonewise.

Fairish. I am at idgaf. Let's go after scummy people.

narrow parking exists

-Mr. Glance

Convince me he's possible partnered with Drew. I don't see it based on recent posting unless the "not yet" post is a post meant for a PT which is stretch even if they are partners.

This doesn't seem like scum Drew either ngl.

so far...

Ugh. I can't see why people don't see Drew Porkens.

Can you explain why those two together?
~Janus

Drew's 180 after I pushed Porkens. He retracts his "joke".

I get some suspicion but not 180s based on when I push.

[Doctor Drew]

lol it looks like everyone seems to think at least 1 scum was bussing no matter what

It's very likely

Ircher was lame ducking. There was bussing.

Well we agree on one thing.

Pre Edit: Titus, may I direct you to the posts I quoted from ChatGPT where you basically said the same things about me?

[Doctor Drew]

Furt, Re: Town Blocc

I can assure you this is scumTitus

[Doctor Drew]

Furt, Re: Town Blocc

I can assure you this is scumTitus

Because she scumreads you and also called you scum in ChatGPT?

No, it was the same exact way she is operating in regards to me as she did in ChatGPT. It is like copy and paste.

[Doctor Drew]

Furt, Re: Town Blocc

I can assure you this is scumTitus

Because she scumreads you and also called you scum in ChatGPT?

I also want to address this again to elaborate.

I made a comment on a post more relating to Shadow, that maybe there is a possibility that Titus is scum. Titus then went on the offensive on me asking how my read could switch so quickly, which is exactly what happened in ChatGPT......she jumped on me hoping for the mis lim there in the exact same fashion she is trying to do here.

And my read on her isn't really to do with her voting me and such, but how she is going about it.

[Doctor Drew]

Doctor Drew was force replaced because he came forward saying he believed he was compromised and we agreed, primarily because he conflated reads across games, and because explaining his trajectories honestly would require him to discuss ongoing games and likely result in him townspewing himself somewhere.

In terms of the Titus modkill, after Titus game-slipped here, she posted in Ausuka's game mentioning the slip. I had tried to blank the posts (I saw them like 30 seconds after they were posted), but players that were in both games had seen the posts already (which is why they were later restored here). Some players in Ausuka's game started to flip their reads due to the OGI, so the modkill was more pressing in that game, but we (by we, I mean a majority of the listmods) had agreed that there was a high likelihood that OGI could continue to pop up in both games if she wasn't modkilled, or if she was only modkilled in one game. Modkills are never ideal, and we initially tried to not do that, but the OGI was worse than we had anticipated.

To expand on what happened with me, I realized when I mentioned a player from another game while talking about my read on Titus here that my all my wires were crossed. So I messaged Sky saying that I may need to be replaced since there really is no way to explain things without talking about another ongoing game. I felt shitty about it since I thought that was part of the reason for the Titus modkill, but at least my conscience rest that i wasn't the cause of that.

Short answer is I am an idiot and cannot ever be trusted again haha.