Mini 1818: Princess Bride Mafia (Game Over!)

[DrippingGoofball]

CLAIM NOW DGB

<3

waniwa

LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

/confirm

I hope I don't get lynched this game~

Only scum is worried only about the lynch

Townies have to worry about the NK

LOL

Nice scum claim

[DrippingGoofball]

My name is Nero Cain, you killed my father, prepare to die.

vote: farside

Nero is town

[DrippingGoofball]

RachMarie is scum.

Secret scumtell

[DrippingGoofball]

O I see she died and was town oh weww

[DrippingGoofball]

I can see why this swwot needed repwacement this is annoying

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Pwimate

[DrippingGoofball]

I am not hugewy motivated to fight this on account of the post westriction. I reawwy can't hunt scum it's too distwacting.

VOTE: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Thewe are no specific penawties mentioned if i don't comply

and I'm vaniwa so i can't even be punished rowe-wise

[DrippingGoofball]

My woew is impwessive cwergyman

[DrippingGoofball]

I fuwwy cwained, do want you want

[DrippingGoofball]

Dgb: if there is no penalties to using the post restriction, why not just post normally?
Why the vote on primate?

I imagine an eventuwal modkiww?

Even my rowe pm was a nightmawe to wead.

I voted Pwimate for luwking.

[DrippingGoofball]

Currently your voting yourself, why do you care if your modkilled?

I don't cawe I suppose

I was thinking maybe just bweak the westriction untiw I am modkiwed?

Wouwd you want me to bweak the westriction untiw modkilled?

[DrippingGoofball]

I think fawside may be scum

She doesn't cawe about figuwing out my awignment

Onwy getting one townie out of the way

[DrippingGoofball]

I'ww vote who i want when i want

[DrippingGoofball]

I said "may"

why awe you pushing me to vote hew Newo Cain?

[DrippingGoofball]

want you to bus your buddy.

suwe

VOTE: fawside

[DrippingGoofball]

dpr genuinely got confirmation that he could stop doing it

I didn't though

[DrippingGoofball]

you being game for pr stuff.

some awe fun... some awe less fun. My wowe pm was bawely intewwigibwe.... so awe my posts.

I wan many games with prs myself.

[DrippingGoofball]

I also dislike DGB claiming they can't scum hunt with said "restriction". Which is a load of bull. I think her self vote is ATE/sympathy. I guess part of it has to do with Far being all hysterical over me having a scum read on DPR and trying to write it off as OMGUS.

whatever

hewp me bus my buddy fawside

[DrippingGoofball]

So I dunno, I feel like I'm the only one doing anything this game so if you fucks aren't going to play atleast sheep me on DGB.

We'we voting the samw pwayew, no?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB missed it for at least 4 posts in here initial salvo

NO

it's in my fiwst post in a way

I was imitating my wole PM

Onwy late whiwe weading my pwedecessor did I we-read the detaiws of my rowe pm

[DrippingGoofball]

Mod lifting his post restriction

Mod: Can you pwease wift this again or at weast wet me use at weast the wetter L?

[DrippingGoofball]

I wike MOI if he's scum I don't mind if he wins

[DrippingGoofball]

/confirm

I hope I don't get lynched this game~

Only scum is worried only about the lynch

Townies have to worry about the NK

LOL

Nice scum claim

Lol I guessed you missed my actual claim...

That was a crumb and then I decided since I was negative utility to just say fuck it and claim

Uh?

[DrippingGoofball]

(my claim is a variant of beloved princess where the day phase is skipped when I'm lynched)

oh

[DrippingGoofball]

@farside: what is your read on Nero?

Same question to DGB.

town

why? Is he youw buddy?

[DrippingGoofball]

I could see a farside/DGB team.

Pewfect

I'm bus'ing fawside

Hewp me!

[DrippingGoofball]

farside's role is public, and it's confirmed to be her actual role (I could potentially see it being scum).

[DrippingGoofball]

What's DV anyway

[DrippingGoofball]

oh doubwe votew

yeah i guess not

so i guess fawside is just playing shitty

[DrippingGoofball]

I pwedict the scum wiww win this game

[DrippingGoofball]

many time I've admitted to ADD moments.

LOL

I think ADD is nothing compared to how distracted I am

[DrippingGoofball]

it's NAI

what is NAI?

[DrippingGoofball]

If you want to add to youw setup specuwation

I am town and vaniwa

[DrippingGoofball]

I cwaimed vaniwa in my fiwrst post LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

I have this eewie feewing that the town is being outscummed and the scum is among not the wurkers, but the active pwayers.

[DrippingGoofball]

Maybe MOI is scum

I do feew he wouwd cowectly peg me as town if he were town too

[DrippingGoofball]

Frankly I’ve seen enough to be satisfied with my initial gut read. Posts like 336 feel like trying to be casual Town but there isn’t any substance to her posting. At this point I have no clue who she thinks is scum … she’s backed off both scum reads on Infinity and Farside and the only other player she’s called scum already flipped Town before she replaced in.

This pawagraph feews intensewey like a BS case to me.

He takes take I come off as "casuaw town" - that is the objective finding - and he twists into TRYING to come off as "casuaw town" and that makes me scum, a subjective finding.

[DrippingGoofball]

Maybe I am not cwear

I come off as "casuaw town" - which he should concwude i am town

MOI twists it as

TWYING TO COME OFF as "casuaw town" allowing him to fawsely concwude i am scum

is that cleawer?

[DrippingGoofball]

He awso ignores that I cwaimed vaniwa in my firwst post.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: MOI

I made a case, this is sewious

[DrippingGoofball]

Come on guys

Comments on my case against MOI

I need encouragement

I haven't made a case in ages

[DrippingGoofball]

What you're saying implies that scum acting like casual town and real casual town look the same to MoI. Why can't he have made the judgement that you look like you're

acting

like casual town instead of

being

casual town?

Also your VT claim is NAI I think

Case is towny, though, I think. Maybe.

What do you think about the other points MoI brought up and the points farside brought up?

I don't disagree with MOI's other points

I barely skim farside as a rule because she always pings my scumdar

[DrippingGoofball]

You mean his other points on you?

This is a fact:

"She’s paid no attention to Peter or Shadow"

I'm town so his concwusion is wrong - but I unwike the thing about "casual town" thewe is no obvious scum agenda in that particuwar train of thought.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB’s entrance at first glance looks very structured to my eye. Literally she manages to hit the following “Look I’m Town” points in that initial string of posts.

1. Self-Voting (which Massive has shown to come from Town) with a healthy sprinkling of “Woe is me” throw in.
2. “Oops the person I claimed scum via secret scum tell actually flipped Town – I must be Town for not knowing she died”. Ranger tried this exact maneuver in Open 633 – ( see post 1159 in this thread http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7868241 ).
3. Jokingly calling Farside her “scum-buddy”.

This suppowts my case

He is explaining all the ways my entwance into the game is townie "look I'm town"

But instead of the considewing the obvious spontaneity of my pway, which I am known for, he goes stwaight to this making it sound like a machiavewian plan.

Am I flattewed he thinks I can be this cweative though LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

Which is completely ridiculous

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB’s response to my case on her and voting of her fits well with a scum oriented viewpoint.

Oh here we go again with confbias

Come on MOI

Either you're smarter than that or you're scum

[DrippingGoofball]

what DGB is peddling – that I am more proficient at calling scum DGB scum (1/2 correct) than I am of calling Town DGB Town (0/2)

I said that? I don't remember saying that. Show me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pwease Pwease Pwease

If you don't pwerwynch MOI after I fwip town I will be restless in the dead PT.

You must avenge me

fawside I am counting on you to avenge me

[DrippingGoofball]

farside Wemembew what I said

The scum are in the active pwayers

I feel hugewy outscummed

I have a bad feewing

Can I count on you fawside

[DrippingGoofball]

First you accuse him of confbias, then say he's scum?

??

I don't actuawwy know his alignment?

But the firwst sentence is pure confbias-think

[DrippingGoofball]

Infinity you can pwomise me too

After I flip town re-wead MOI's posts and pwease see how fake they are

And wynch the wiving daylights out of him.

[DrippingGoofball]

THat's what is sounded like to me

[DrippingGoofball]

I am gwad you weckon you suck at reading me as town, which I am, and painfuwy obviously too.

[DrippingGoofball]

You awe also saying you are cowect about my alignemnt 1/3

worse than wandom

You should wead me as town 66% and scum 33% at wandom

Wadomly you'd be correct 11% + 44% so 55% of the time

You'we right 33%

LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, when did farside become a town read of yours?

I don't know hew alignment

But I twust hew to avenge me and lynch MOI

[DrippingGoofball]

@Everyone

– I mean look at the crop job in 481 and then look at the full quote in either 461 or 487 and tell me with a straight face that

1. The original sentence wasn’t crystal clear.
2. That DGB’s selective crop and attempt to misrep my post isn’t scummy as hell.

Oh go to hell

I have an actual cognitive impairment from kidney failure and being on dialysis and on an organ transplant list

Fuck you and your stupid fake scumtells scum

DIE

[DrippingGoofball]

Hmm, DGB trying to sow paranoia...

I support this lynch

PEdit: I think MoI is town but sure

You're scum too and go to hell with MOI

[DrippingGoofball]

And fuck that post restriction too I AM MAD

This town is complete shit

Enjoy following scum and losing

I'm saying it now

BOTH Infinity and MOI are scum

VERY VERY VERY SCUM

If you numbnuts fail to see this for yourself there is no hope

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, when did farside become a town read of yours?

I don't know hew alignment

But I twust hew to avenge me and lynch MOI

Ok this is BS, why appeal to farside unless you read her as town?

I don't fucking know her alignment

It's easier for you to keep track, scum

[DrippingGoofball]

Where is the vote count?

I'll be delighted to self-hammer and let MOI & Infinity win the game for their scum team

They deserve it more than this shit town

Nero your play is shit too

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, when did farside become a town read of yours?

I don't know hew alignment

But I twust hew to avenge me and lynch MOI

If you think MOI is scum, you can't be thinking that Farside is scum also and asking her to lynch MOI. You stopped voting her, and are now asking her to "avenge you", so I'm guessing you're reading her as town. Why?

I don't know I'm just angry

and I don't want you guys not to lynch MOI

He is definitely scum

[DrippingGoofball]

I can only hope that you'll put your heads together and find the scum on and off this absolutely ridiculous BS case written by scum

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh go to hell

I have an actual cognitive impairment from kidney failure and being on dialysis and on an organ transplant list

Fuck you and your stupid fake scumtells scum

DIE

I'm sorry for your health issues but the fact remains -

You had to go out of your way to crop that post in a manner that attempted to portray what I was suggesting was the opposite of what actually was said.

If you were honestly looking to make a point you would have just quoted the whole thing.

NO

I wanted to highlight what I understood to be a BS misrepresentation of what I was saying

The fact remains that random numbers are better at reading me that you

But your case here is such pure unadulterated BS that it can only come from scum

[DrippingGoofball]

The joy Inifinity is getting out of this lynch can be cut with a knife

He's also def scum

[DrippingGoofball]

This is a great player list on paper

[DrippingGoofball]

Ok I'm even more ok with a DGB lynch

I hope you enjoy being schooled in what I always say... "Meta is rubbish"

[DrippingGoofball]

My sincerest apologies for the lack of activity. I am still alive, and will catch up with stuff tomorrow.

That's pwobably a scum slot

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm still town

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Infinity

Since your probably town for getting yourself modkilled over this

I want you to typ 100 times "meta is rubbish" in the deat PT

No copy pasting

[DrippingGoofball]

I predict that I won't be NK'd all the the numbnuts suspecting me won't be NK'd either LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

It's probably best for the game state overall for me to be lynched anyway

I'm just going to be a distractions for people with bad reads that like to sheep scum MOI as long as I am alive

Pwus

I am just vaniwa so who cawes

At weast you'we not wynching a PR

Just someone spwadically abiding to their annoying post westriction

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't know if we'w go to night after Infinity's modkiw

But if we don't I will swf-hammew

For thwee weasons

(1) Impwove game state
(2) be fwee of post westriction
(3) ride Infinity's ass in the dead PT about meta being rubbish

if modkill doesn't lead to night then I might as well drop the post restriction until I am modkilled - you'll know right away I'm town and you can move on to more productive areas of sheeping MOI-scum

[DrippingGoofball]

It certainly is and has been for a while

[DrippingGoofball]

And DGB swoops right in to suddenly declare him Town. What a shock that suddenly Infinity went from OBV SCUM DIE DIE to Town. It's like she doesn't actually have reads and just says whatever is expedient for the moment.

OMG

There is literally nothing I do that you are willing to entertain is town and genuine

EVERYTHING is totally painted as scummy even being too townie LOL is interpreted as calculated for the appearance of looking townie

See people

That's why I know MOI is scum

[DrippingGoofball]

Preview Edit - Thank you Farside .. I'll look at it in depth when I next get the chance.

LOL

Sure

"later"

Because your fake "case" against me is so gd incwiminating

You awe even taunting me to get myself modkilled and to self vote

and I will do it

So long as some players promise to speedlynch you after I fwip town

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Infinity

Since your probably town for getting yourself modkilled over this

I want you to typ 100 times "meta is rubbish" in the deat PT

No copy pasting

Reference ongoing games is now a mod kill offense?
Since when?

It's not just ongoing... it's one he's not dead in LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

It's not impossible that the game will have to be abandoned and re-booted actually.

[DrippingGoofball]

@Mod, I hope that doesn't cross the line about ongoing games, if so, please delete it. Thanks

Plus, he did it KNOWINGLY

[DrippingGoofball]

If the game is rebooted I hope it's without the post restriction

words like "later" turn into "wawer" it's way too hawd

[DrippingGoofball]

I didn't say anything directly about the game, I thought that would be fine...

You literally quoted me in the the whole game

I am town BTW

[DrippingGoofball]

You realize you compromised BOTH games with your foolishness

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm still town

You can still post "meta is rubbish" 100 x LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

My post restriction was real too

[DrippingGoofball]

MOI is still scum as you will see

[DrippingGoofball]

the scum is farside & MOI

calling it now

[DrippingGoofball]

I disagwee with the decision to not to modkill because the illegaw actions sheds light on in infinity's alignment, in that it weally increases his probability of being town to almost 100%.

It favors town so I'm letting it dwop LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's wynch MOI

I pwomise he's scum and it will be fun

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey Loopdan you're conftown

[DrippingGoofball]

Why? You were convinced I was scum a couple of pages ago.

You don't think scum!infinity would use an ongoing game as evidence for a scumread?

No I don't

He knew he was contravening the rules, that comes from someone who is taking a big risk for their conviction. No scum would risk it, they are accountable to their buddies, too.

That's why you're conftown now

[DrippingGoofball]

the scum is farside & MOI

calling it now

What's your case on farside? What do you think of sword?

Ugh

I forgot about the role stuff actually nvm

I just have MOI as defscum now

[DrippingGoofball]

OK. I see that now. I thought the mod fixed it when it was first pointed out. Now I see nothing was changed in the VC when Kuroi said it was fixed.

Does "scum theatre" mean you are reading a Loopdan-DGB scum team? I think you only got half of that right.

Mind you it's pretty amazing how you waltz into a game and you're already really sure that the leading wagon is scum

Maybe I'm wrong and scum-Infinity would take a modkill risk to make a bullshit case based on an ongoing game

[DrippingGoofball]

At this point I really think someone should hammer me

I think you idiots will have more information and maybe you'll be able to figure out the game

I'm literally bleeding town

But I'm too town to be town it must be fake

GG scum convincing enough brain dead townies

[DrippingGoofball]

I wonder, does the scum not want to hammer a townie because it will be fucking embarassing and scummy when I flip town? Is it because 2/3 of the scum team is already voting me and the last scum doesn't want to overscum my wagon?

I have a hunch MOI asked for the mod to modkill me for not respecting my post restriction and the mod didn't do it.

[DrippingGoofball]

I also, FTR, hate the fact that Infinity risking a modkill for breaking obvious rules becomes an element on which his alignment can be judged. That's why he should have been modkilled and not merely force-replaced.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd like everyone to answer the following question.

Assuming I'm town... who do you think the scum is, and why?

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh, and does anybody else have a problem with my slot not being modkilled?

I sure don't

It makes you prob town

[DrippingGoofball]

he didn't know he was breaking the rules.

He did know, he posted as much.

[DrippingGoofball]

Nero, shadow. Shadow reads as scum regardless.

Really????

Not MOI?

:weeps:

[DrippingGoofball]

Farside and Sword I guess

Why does my town flip make Farside and Sword? That's not enough.

Also MOI is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't see why she would continue with her post restriction when the mod told DPR that he can stop (

YOU CAN BLAME THE MOD DIRECTLY FOR THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, caught up. I had a mild townread on DPR but DGB is pretty obviously scum. I don't see why she would continue with her post restriction when the mod told DPR that he can stop (Post 245). It's possible she didn't read that post but it was specifically pointed out to her several times by others so it looks more like she's willfully ignoring it for sympathy points. I don't think her read on Farside is genuine considering she calls Farside scum on one hand and tells her to avenge DGB on the other. Also, hate that self-vote. While I don't think it's impossible for town to self-vote, it doesn't make sense in this context. DGB's been in the game for barely a couple of days, hasn't put forth a genuine effort to work with the town and sort reads out, so frustration rising to the level of a self-vote is unlikely. Much more likely scenario, it's an appeal to emotion, and when combined with that fact that part of her frustration for self-voting and not scumhunting is that she has a post restriction (one that she doesn't have to follow), I'm fairly confident this is a scum flip.

Farside and Nero Cain are solidly town. Primate is a decently strong townread as well. Loopdan's eagerness to start contributing to the game reads town and I think the beloved princess claim early is slightly more likely to be town than scum. MoI has been hard to read but I think I'll get a better idea of his alignment if I re-assess after seeing DGB flip. Looking at SoD and Shadow as the most likely DGB partners.

Will hammer DGB once Loopdan catches up.

SCUM YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't think Infinity's slot is conftown for that... he didn't know he was breaking the rules. But it does increase the townread I already had on that slot.

I'm okay with a DGB hammer.

I'd like everyone to answer the following question.

Assuming I'm town... who do you think the scum is, and why?

I can see shaddow and Primate as DGB partners, mostly by PoE combined with their lurkiness around her wagon. If she flips town, I could still see shaddow and Primate being scum, as well as farside. (If DGB's scum then farside's probably town, I doubt she would bus like that.)
-smart

YOU ALSO DIDN"T

[DrippingGoofball]

YOU ALSO DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT WHO ARE MY NON-EXISTENT BUDDIES

I ASKED, WHEN I FLIP TOWN, WHO IS SCUM

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, caught up. I had a mild townread on DPR but DGB is pretty obviously scum. I don't see why she would continue with her post restriction when the mod told DPR that he can stop (Post 245). It's possible she didn't read that post but it was specifically pointed out to her several times by others so it looks more like she's willfully ignoring it for sympathy points. I don't think her read on Farside is genuine considering she calls Farside scum on one hand and tells her to avenge DGB on the other. Also, hate that self-vote. While I don't think it's impossible for town to self-vote, it doesn't make sense in this context. DGB's been in the game for barely a couple of days, hasn't put forth a genuine effort to work with the town and sort reads out, so frustration rising to the level of a self-vote is unlikely. Much more likely scenario, it's an appeal to emotion, and when combined with that fact that part of her frustration for self-voting and not scumhunting is that she has a post restriction (one that she doesn't have to follow), I'm fairly confident this is a scum flip.

Farside and Nero Cain are solidly town. Primate is a decently strong townread as well. Loopdan's eagerness to start contributing to the game reads town and I think the beloved princess claim early is slightly more likely to be town than scum. MoI has been hard to read but I think I'll get a better idea of his alignment if I re-assess after seeing DGB flip. Looking at SoD and Shadow as the most likely DGB partners.

Will hammer DGB once Loopdan catches up.

I found the interaction between dbg/loop more like scum theater. He already knows she thought Infinity was scum? Then calling him town.
He either was reading the game before replacing or read the last 2 pages and still got all button out of shape in an over the top manner.

FARSIDE

Come on

I am telling you I am flipping town

I am very disappointed that you are not making the effort to see how the scum has pushed this wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

what about MOI ????????????????????

OMG you guys are so daft I just can't

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't think Infinity's slot is conftown for that... he didn't know he was breaking the rules. But it does increase the townread I already had on that slot.

I'm okay with a DGB hammer.

I'd like everyone to answer the following question.

Assuming I'm town... who do you think the scum is, and why?

I can see shaddow and Primate as DGB partners, mostly by PoE combined with their lurkiness around her wagon. If she flips town, I could still see shaddow and Primate being scum, as well as farside. (If DGB's scum then farside's probably town, I doubt she would bus like that.)
-smart

YOU ALSO DIDN"T

Give reasons

You have to explain why Shadow and Primate and farside would be scum.

Some lame list doesn't cut it

I want to see people THINK about it

[DrippingGoofball]

THINK THINK THINK

[DrippingGoofball]

You guys are so frustrating

This wagon literally started with MOI

FINDING ME SO TOWNIE THAT I HAD TO BE A SCUM CALCULATING TO BE TOWNIE

THEN EVERY OTHER TOWNIE THING I DID HE PAINTED AS SOMETHING SCUM WOULD DELIBERATELY DO TO LOOK TOWN ON PURPOSE

I CANNOT BELIEVE NO ONE SEES THIS

AND YOU NUMBNUTS ACTUALLY FELL FOR THIS DRIBBLE AND NO ONE REALIZES MOI IS SCUM?????????????????????????

[DrippingGoofball]

I would totally self-hammer

Except I want you to avenge me when I am gone

and you need to see which lurker/replacement is going to come down with the hammer

[DrippingGoofball]

While I am at it

The moderation surrounding my post restriction was inconsistent garbage

As was not modkilling Infinity.

[DrippingGoofball]

I should have been modkilled for DELIBERATELY ignoring it

[DrippingGoofball]

And you can bet MOI is so sure he can say my PR is fake because he must have asked the mod to modkill me, behind the scenes.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm trying, I'm fighting to get you to stop being so pants on head, but I guess strategically I've been too upset with you all, and I took too much game space with my upset and I didn't give you all a chance to breathe and post etc.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm really not seeing this "oh Farside couldn't bus DGB!" I think its stupid and farsighted.

especially since I'm town

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, you're not reading my posts.
And your entire case against MoI is one thing he said that you misrepresented to make it seem like he called you scum for being too towny.
-smart

No.... pretty much everything he says is that I sound townie but it must be "by design" so my townieness means I'm scum

His other strategy is to take something townie, like freely changing my mind, and explain it with scum rather than town, which is what townies do. Scum is careful being "consistent" - that's never a townie concern.

Please lynch him after I flip.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pathetic that Primate lurked and didn't use his power.

[DrippingGoofball]

I blame dgb for being dgb.

I really fought hard

and the architect of the "case" on me was scum as I repeated 100 times

I guess fighting hard is scum-read these days?

sigh

[DrippingGoofball]

The case on me was basically

too townie to be real - must be fake

LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm really butthurt by that lynch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pass a soothing ointment please