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TM2012: Scummies 2011.5 - Let the credits roll!

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 8:32 am

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Scummies 2011.5

Image

Judge not, before you judge yourself
(Alive)
: 1/13
Spoiler:
xRECKONERx -
Mafia
and holder of the Image, Image, Image and Image scummies survived until endgame.



(Bolded = confirmed)

Only God can judge me now
(Dead)
: 12/13
Spoiler:
Captain Ajax:
Image (lynched D1)

The Fonz:
Image, Image (killed N1)

Gaoth
Magua:
Image (lynched D2)

Quilford:
Image, Image (killed N2)
Kublai Khan
Image (Lynched D3)
hitogoroshi
Image, Image (Killed N3)
theamatuer
Image (Lynched D4)
MagnaofIllusion
Image (Killed N4)
T-Bone
Image (Lynched Day 5)
Slandaar
Image (Killed Night 5)
BBmolla
Image Image and bestperformancelosingcause.gif (Lynched Day 6).
Zar
Image (Endgamed Day 6)


Scummies Highlight Reel
(Important links)

Day 1: Hit the road, Jax!
Night 1: Fonz jumps the shark.
Day 2: A plot hole explained?
Night 2: IC dead people.
Day 3: KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Night 3: Mascara Massacre
Day 4: Adiue, theamatuer
Night 4: Life is an Illusion
Day 5: MORE LIKE T-BONED
Night 5: Slandaar Slaughtered
Day 6: ENDGAME
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2012 8:33 am

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A) Ethics and Sportsmanship


A1) All sitewide rules apply. Read them here
A2) Play to your faction's win condition, as long as you do not break any game or site rules in doing so.
A3) You may not discuss this game anywhere outside the game thread unless explicitly permitted to do so in your role PM.
A4) Quoting or pretending to quote your role PM, quicktopics, private communications with the mod, or (in the case of hydrae) discussion with other heads is strictly forbidden. Loose paraphrasing is permitted, although run it past me first when in doubt.
A5) Be civil and treat other players with respect--attack the case, not the person. Mafia is a heated game, but I will interfere if anyone resorts to excessive insults, personal attacks, and bullying.
A6) There is a zero-tolerance policy against offensive comments or slurs based on race, gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. You may be harshly punished for even a first violation of this rule.
A7) Encryption is forbidden, as well as messages hidden in invisible text, small text, or BBCode tags. Always err on the side of caution and ask the mod before leaving a code or breadcrumb. A good rule of thumb is that if the average person cannot decipher the code without outside software after having it pointed out, you can't use it.
A8) Editing and deleting posts (if you have the power to do so) is strictly forbidden.
A9) If you have outside information that influences your knowledge of the game, are aware of someone else having outside information, or have any reason to believe that the game has been compromised, it is your responsibility to inform the mod immediately. I will love you for your honesty.

B) Voting/Lynching Mechanics


B1) For your vote or unvote to be counted, it must be completely bolded, and use the format Vote: PlayerName/Unvote: PlayerName or VOTE: Playername/UNVOTE: Playername (capital letters and colon optional). Any other variation (such Hammer: PlayerName) will not be counted.
B2) Votes for misspellings or acronyms of players' names (such as VOTE: Playrname or VOTE: PN) are valid as long as the player being voted for is clear. You are not required to unvote before changing your vote. However, votes that are behind spoiler tags, in small or invisible text, or otherwise concealed are invalid.
B3) A lynch will occur when 50%+1 of the votes are cast for the same player. When this has happened, any subsequent votes and unvotes will not be counted, and the game will enter twilight.
B4) (AKA Zachrulez's Nemesis's Rule) You may vote for "no lynch" if you wish. If 50% of the players in the game vote for no-lynch, the game will progress to night without a lynch.
B5) Dead is dead - no 'Bah' post. Not even one. If the mod hasn't posted the endgame scene, you may not post again, even after a hammer in LYLO. Under absolutely under no circumstances may you reveal game-relevant information after your death.
B6) (AKA The "Blame Katsuki" Rule) Votes from an alt account will be interpreted in the most damaging way to your faction. If you can't log in correctly, you have little to complain about.

C) Activity and Deadlines


C1) Deadlines are set by Zorotter. Every game will use the following “dynamic deadline” system: Day deadlines will range from 10-16 days.
C2) Deadlines are bankable. For every day you lynch before the deadline, twenty-four hours will be added to the deadline of the following day phase, up to a maximum deadline of twenty days. Note that time added will only be in increments of twenty-four hours. If you lynch twenty-three hours and fifty-nine minutes before deadline on Day One, no time will be added to the counter on Day Two.
C3) Deadlines will not be extended barring exceptional circumstances or replacement situations. If a majority lynch is not reached before deadline, no lynch occurs.

C4) You may continue talking after a lynch or deadline has elapsed until the mod posts to end the day. After that, you may not post even if the mod forgets to lock the thread.
C5) Night phases will last for between 24 and 72 hours depending on how this game relates to the other games. Once again, decided by zorotter.
C6) In order to be accepted, night actions must be PMd to the mod or posted in bold in scum QTs before the deadline is up. If a player does not select one, he or she will default to "no action."
C7) If a replacement is needed during a night phase, I will extend the night deadline until some time after a replacement is found, regardless of whether that slot has a night action.
C8) Please treat this game as a commitment and do your best to participate actively.
C9) Players will be prodded after forty-eight hours without posting. They may also request prods on other players so long that player has not posted for a reasonable amount of time. All prods will be announced in thread.
C10) Players who do not respond to a (non-player-requested) prod within twenty-four hours or need to be prodded too often will be replaced at the discretion of the mod.
C11) If you will be unable to post for over forty-eight hours, inform the mod by PM or in the thread of when you'll be V/LA. Assuming the V/LA period is of reasonable length, you will be exempt from prods during that time. All V/LA notifications will be made public by the mod.
C12) We will try to post vote counts every page or every twenty-four hours if possible. Players may request a new vote count at any time.

D) Other


D1) Abilities follow Natural Action Resolution unless explicitly stated otherwise in your role PM.
D2) If there is a conflict between the rules and your role PM, the role PM takes precedence.
D3)
Purple
is our color. You may not use it.
D4) Any methods of verifiable randomness are forbidden. This includes dice tags. Don't use them.
D5) It is possible something may have been overlooked or left unclear. When in doubt, ask. You may be punished for deliberately exploiting technicalities and vague wording in the rules in order to do something you should know is forbidden or unethical.
D6) Punishment for breaking any of the above rules may include a private or public warning, force replacement, modkill, or even blacklisting (depending on the seriousness of the offence).
D7) I will modkill players in the way most detrimental to their faction. Modkilled players may be retroactively made into Neutral Survivors.
D8) I reserve the right to add, remove, or modify rules at any point of the game if it becomes necessary

Team Mafia Rules


Click here to find all of the Team Mafia Specific rules if you're confused. I've quoted the parts relevant to what you may and may not say about ongoing games below.


Talking About Other Games

1. Players may mention other games only to talk about things that have been mod confirmed such as what a player flipped when they were killed. They may not speculate about another game’s players (such as who is scummy and so forth). You may not talk about how bad a wagon was, etc. You must keep it to only the information provided by the moderator.
2. To reiterate: speculation about other games is prohibited.
3. Any attempt to try to signal to another game what they should or should not do is against the rules.
4. Attempts to be “clever” and circumvent these rules will be treated harshly. We will “pierce” hypothetical questions or answers, ignoring the hypothetical nature and assume that it is meant to be a factual statement.
5. A major violation is defined as one that has the potential to be game breaking. For example, if your teammate is dead and flipped town, posting about who is scummy in that game will be a major violation.
6. Explicitly Allowed: You may mention who is on each team. You may mention what stage (e.g. Day 2) a game is in. You may mention how many players are left alive from a team, including your own. You may mention how many scum have been killed/alive in a particular game (or town alive/killed), knowing that all games are 10v3 or 9v3. You may talk as much as you wish about a game that is finished.
7. None of this applies to your team QT. You may post what you wish in there.

Your Teammates are Always Innocent Until Proven Guilty

1. You may at no time say, indicate, insinuate, etc. that your Team Mafia teammates are or might be anything other than town. This includes in any hypothetical situation.
2. Exception: You may talk about your teammates being scum if they have flipped scum in another game (i.e. are dead).
3. If a player is NOT on your team and is still alive in another game, you must follow the rules in the Talking About Other Games thread. In other words, you may not speculate on a player's alignment in another game.


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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 1:31 pm

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Special Rules


I. Alignments/Roles


This is the standard town role PM:


Hello, [XXX]. Welcome to Team Mafia: Scummies 2011.5.

You are a holder of the Image Scummie, and are
Town Aligned
. You are also eligible to judge the 2011.5 Scummies.

You have no additional powers other than your voice and your vote--at least, not yet.

You win when all of the
Mafia
have been eliminated and at least one
town
player remains alive.


(Since we tweaked the role PMs after zoraster first sent them out, here's the original to discourage shameless cheaters:)

Spoiler: Beta Town PM

Hello, [XXX]. Welcome to Team Mafia: Scummies 2012.5.

You are a holder of the Image Scummie, and are
Town Aligned
.

Although you are eligible to judge the 2012.5 Scummies, you have no special powers beside than your voice and your vote--at least, not yet.

You win when all of the Image have been eliminated and at least one
town
player remains alive.


Three players received this role PM:


Hello, [XXX]. Welcome to Team Mafia: Scummies 2011.5.

You are a holder of the Image Scummie, and are
Mafia Aligned
. You are also eligible to judge the 2011.5 Scummies.



[CLASSIFIED INFORMATION]
because [REDACTED] is so 2008




You win when all of the
Town
have been eliminated or nothing can prevent the same from happening.


You know that the scum have an additional means of tampering with the judging procedure. You are unaware of whether they have other powers.

II. The Judging Process
(as described here)

1)
Judging lasts for the first couple of days. Day 1 is for First Half Awards. Day 2 is for Second Half Awards. Day 3 onward is the Awards Ceremony, at which point you can proceed like a normal Mafia game.

2)
Selecting an award to assign (the QT phase):

a) At the start of Days One and Two, you will be divided into judging groups. Each group will be given a temporary quicktopic as well as a list of awards. The group may assign only ONE award of those on the list. Do not quote the QT or link to it.

b) Your group will be given six days to decide which role the town should be assigned. Publicly vote for your choice in the QT. We're not picky about formatting as long as your vote is in
bold
and the intent is unambiguous. Once an award receives a 50%+1 majority of votes, the six-day judging deadline elapses, or a lynch is reached, then the QT is locked for the rest of the game.

c) Due to the mechanics of this game,
IMPERSONATING ANOTHER PLAYER IN A QUICKTOPIC IS A MODKILLABLE OFFENCE
. Don't even do it as a joke.

d) If there is no 50%+1 majority by the QT deadline, the award with a plurality of votes will be assigned. However, if there is an even split in votes between the top choices, this judging category will be ruled as undecided.

3)
Choosing a winner (the secret ballot phase):

a) PM
the Lost Butterfly account
(not Faraday or Mina) to tell us who you'd like to receive the award. Scummies judges are not eligible for the awards they are judging, so
you may not give it to anyone in your group
. The recipient must also be alive at twilight.

b) You may vote for a recipient before a decision in the QT phase is finalized, in case the day ends prematurely. However, this vote cannot be contingent on the award you assign.

(Right: "I'm voting Faraday to win the Group 1A award."
Wrong: "I'm voting Faraday if Funniest Avatar wins and zoraster if it's Best Ruleset.")

c) All votes must be in before the hammer vote of the lynch. Only a player's most recent selection will be taken to account.

d) The eligible player with the most votes will win the category and be informed of his new role during twilight. We will use random.org to break a tie. You may abstain from voting, but if no one votes, then this award is also undecided.

4)
Undecided categories: (THIS ONLY COMES IN TO PLAY IF THE JUDGES FAIL TO REACH A DECISION - SCUM DO NOT GET A FREE PICK IF NOT)

a) At night, the scumteam is informed of which categories/roles were left undecided. They may then pick
one
award from the undecided categories to assign to a player who was eligible for the award during the day (i.e., was not a member of that category's judging group).

b) If a category was undecided due to the judges' inability to reach a consensus on a role, the scumteam may choose to assign any award in it. If the judges agreed on a Scummie, but no candidates received any secret ballot votes, the scumteam can only assign that Scummie.

c) Recipients of a Scummie assigned during the night will be informed of their ability in the morning.

III- Possible Roles


1)
In this game, every Scummie award represents a role or effect. The following Scummies may be assigned by the town:

"Paragon of Mafia Hunters" Award for Best Mafia Catcher: Image

"Don Corleone" Award for Most Cunning Manipulator: Image

"Best Newbie" Award for Most Outstanding New Player: Image

Award for Most Improved Player: Image

"White Knight" Award for Best Replacement: Image

"Hannibal Lecter" Award for Best Performance Third Party: Image

"Jedi Knight" Award for Best IC: Image

"Coffee on the Monitor" Award for Funniest Player: Image

"Johnny Cochrane" Award for Best Role Claim: Image

"Friends Forever!" Award for Funniest Role Claim is: Image

Award for Most Enjoyable Game: Image

"Rube Goldberg" Award for Best Setup: Image

"Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out Of Its Ass" Award for Best Role: Image

"Paperback Writer" Award for Best Flavour Text: Image

"Grr, Arg" Award for Best Mechanic/Mutation: Image

"Smooth Operator" Award for Moderational Excellence: Image

"Professor Mafia" Award for Best Contribution to Mafia Discussion/The Wiki: Image

"Name Should Be In Orange" Award for Behind the Scenes Contribution: Image


2)
Judges will be informed of the powers granted by each Scummie in their category. Scummies recipients will receive a PM that starts with the equivalent of "You have been awarded the [IMAGE] Scummie" as well as some flavour text. Please do not quote or pretend to quote this flavour text, although loose paraphrasing is allowed. The Mafia may request fake flavour or sample role PMs from the mods.

3)
The standard reveal in this game is an alignment and partial role flip upon death. For example:

Mina
, Image, was lynched D1.

Faraday
, Image, Image, was lynched D2.

If a Scummie is in a player's possession, then it will be revealed upon the player's death even if its effect has expired.

4)
The awarding of Scummies, whether by town judging groups or by the scumteam, is not considered a standard role action, and is not affected by most abilities unless specifically stated otherwise in the role description.

5)
We will use Natural Action Resolution to resolve abilities. If you have a question about how roles would hypothetically interact, you may ask Lost Butterfly, and we will selectively decide whether to answer you.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 4:48 pm

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 4:49 pm

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Day 1, Votecount 0

Not voting
(13) : xRECKONERx, MagnaofIllusion, BBmolla, Kublai Khan, The Fonz, Gaoth, Quilford, T-Bone, theamatuer, Captain Ajax, DeasVail, Zar, hitogoroshi

Deadline:
21st of May at 11:50pm (EDT)
Countdown to deadline
: (expired on 2012-05-21 23:50:00)

Countdown to the end of First Half Judging
: (expired on 2012-05-13 23:50:00)
Please remember to read the special rules if you're confused.


Day 1 Begins. Go, go go!
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:36 pm

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Vote: Zar


I actually don't know a few people here. Zar, Deas, T-Bone, Gaoth, and I know but unsure if I've played with BB. 'Lo to the rest of you.

No quick-hammering under any circumstances. Judges need at least a day or two to get their shit together, and II-4 seems really fucking brutal if we mess it up. So, you quickhammer anyone, for any reason,
even confirmed scum
, you are on the chopping block tomorrow.

I understand it's a bit annoying because high pressure also helps us get the good town reads we need, but we need to be careful how far we step until the judging QT's have had time to mature. Especially since the judges need a bit of game to get reads on in the first place. Ideally we can get rid of this blanket prohibition soon enough for fun wagons, but I just don't have any patience for playing the 'Well they quickhammered, but that person was so scummy so they're town right :C' game.

Do we think there's merit to the judging groups being secret? I can't see anything that would really matter either way. At minimum, groups should pick a representative to sound off that they're ready, I think. The question is whether it's good for the rest to claim. I don't really have an answer off the top of my head. There's obviously some utility in being able to track the flow of the scummies to some degree, but do we think the scum would get a significant benefit knowing the group distribution? The wording of II-4 ("at night, the scumteam is informed of") suggests they don't know by default, anyway.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:01 pm

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Vote: Reckoner


Obligatory, given what happened the last time we played together.

Hito: let's keep the judging groups secret. Not sure if it makes a difference, but the less the scum knows, the better.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:46 pm

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who are you
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:51 pm

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Trojan Horse. And lord almighty, can the man hold a grudge.
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:56 pm

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OMG its reckoner. He's like a legend.
also
vote: kk
for beign last to confirm
Its just whatever
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:15 pm

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Hey hito, grudges are vote worthy. Join me.

vote troj


I'll save you the trouble, that vote was real.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:18 pm

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He's Captain Ajax here, Reck, not Trojan.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:28 pm

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Holy jesus this is complex. It's cool, but give me a bit to quite understand it.

VOTE: Quilford

He's always scum.

Also, I don't see a benefit in keeping the scummy QTs secret. The seeming fact that there is no incentive to keep them secret bugs me a bit though.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:37 pm

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In post 12, BBmolla wrote:Holy jesus this is complex. It's cool, but give me a bit to quite understand it.


The key thing is that the WHO votes are secret and potentially able to be tampered with, whereas the WHAT votes are public (albeit public only in the judging QT, but hey) and will be immediately apparent.

Given this line in the rules:

You know that the scum have an additional means of tampering with the judging procedure. You are unaware of whether they have other powers.


I think it's safe to say you shouldn't feel 100% that a role is going to who you want even with a 4-0 vote. So a good thing to think about when judging is "How bad would it be if this role fell in to the wrong hands, either through us voting and our town read being scum or it being obtained by someone no one voted for?" Of course, you shouldn't be entirely paranoid (if the scum could interfere with EVERY ballot, then the whole idea of voting on scummies would be pretty fuckin pointless, neh?), but keep it on the brain.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 8:18 pm

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Vote: hitogoroshi
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 8:56 pm

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VOTE: Cpt. Ajax

BBmolla is town, Hito is townish, Reck and DeasVail are nullish, Ajax is scummy.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 9:09 pm

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Hi DeasVail!

Talk to me.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 9:23 pm

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Hi Quil :)

How's it going?
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 9:29 pm

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It's pretty good, about to have pizza (sig).

Are you scum? Why are you voting hito?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 9:35 pm

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I'm not scum unfortunately. Are you?

I'm voting hito because I think he's scummy.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:31 pm

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VOTE: theamatuer
1) OMGUS
2) policy
3) xRECKONERx-buddying
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:44 pm

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In post 13, hitogoroshi wrote:
In post 12, BBmolla wrote:Given this line in the rules:

You know that the scum have an additional means of tampering with the judging procedure. You are unaware of whether they have other powers.


I think it's safe to say you shouldn't feel 100% that a role is going to who you want even with a 4-0 vote. So a good thing to think about when judging is "How bad would it be if this role fell in to the wrong hands, either through us voting and our town read being scum or it being obtained by someone no one voted for?" Of course, you shouldn't be entirely paranoid (if the scum could interfere with EVERY ballot, then the whole idea of voting on scummies would be pretty fuckin pointless, neh?), but keep it on the brain.

You seem to be engaging in a bit of pointless hyper-WIFOM. If the scummie-judging groups are random and Scum may be randomly chosen as being part of the groups (unless Faraday/Mina are creating massive game-breaking mason groups), then they already have plenty of opportunity to influence who gets what award. On top of that, they get the pick of whatever is unawarded. So I have no idea what extra evil shenanigans they have on top of that, but it can't be too evil.

Also it occurs to me that nobody selected for the first round of judging is likely going to get selected for the second round. So single-representatives are fine, but no full-group reveals. Not until Day 3. Just to be safe.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 11:46 pm

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DeasVail wrote:I'm not scum unfortunately. Are you?

I'm voting hito because I think he's scummy.
Nope! Glad we got that out of the way.

I think hito's kinda townish for now because of posts that give an enthusiastic air, I realise it's RVS but why do you think he's scummy


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Oh hey. Don't you think the Reck buddying makes him town?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 12:03 am

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His first post gives me the impression of scum trying too hard to look town. This is because the first paragraph is really just stating the obvious, as I'm pretty sure the players here are competent. It's like saying, "Now remember kids, always get a claim before lynching" at the very start of a non-newbie game. Sure, I've played games where this doesn't happen, but I'm assuming that people won't do anything stupid this game and it wouldn't cross my mind to tell people not to. So yeah, I think he was leaping onto the opportunity to look town.

By the way Hito, if you are town, I don't mean to say what you said wasn't good. I just think you're be scum because of it.

Also, the speculation in post 13 reminds me of a tendency I have as scum.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 12:08 am

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VOTE: hitogoroshi

DV = town
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