Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[RedCoyote]

Kagami,

I just looked back over what you said to Spy late yesterday. I appreciate those words because you seem really clued in to what I was saying. I'm reluctant to go after Spy off the back of that, but I just wanted to note that I'll give you props for looking over the entire exchange and making good sense of it all.

I'm kind of at an impasse because as of right now I see town in virtually everyone. I need to hear from drealmerz/Nahdia about all this stuff Dunn is talking about. Nacho makes a good point that orb possession/knowledge shouldn't necessarily imbue town, Dunn.

Let me put it another way so that I'm not misunderstood. I had two big reasons for disliking Dunn yesterday. His relationship with Nahdia and his voting (specifically his PZ vote struck me as really bad). If the former is explained by role information, I can cut him some slack.

Dunn, why did you vote PZ over Nacho yesterday?

[drealmerz7]

I'm re-reading the entire thread and catching up on everything and taking notes and doing the thoroughs as this game deserves you'll have multiple WOTs from me by the end of the day - barring life drama

[Kagami]

I'm kind of at an impasse because as of right now I see town in virtually everyone.

Somehow, I'm having the opposite problem.

[pirate mollie]

Really interested in seeing what Nacho says. Wondering what his motive could be. I'm not willing to believe it's all a coincidence.

I didn't notice drealmer's crumb, nor your crumb, nor Nahdia's.
I don't think that drealmer is town for crumbing possession of a fragment of the Orb (especially since possession isn't indicative of alignment), and your idea that I'm hunting orb fragments is cute but doesn't really follow with me not actively trying to get any of those suspects lynched which Mollie will attest to and with none of those three dying.

Vote: drealmerz7

Mlem mlem

this post is some hot garbage

I think if you were town and too busy you wld rhapsodize us with beautiful sweet promises that you will post content later.

you didn't do that.

instead you pushing this very tired push on dreamz when it shld be very apparent that it is a playstyle issue. you LOVE players like that. you find them funny and entertaining and usually try to keep them mislynched. I bet you were telling the truth when you said in that games with dreamz how you were tired of rolling scum. I don't buy into the gambler's fallacy that is the crux of his reasons for thinking he is scum but I do find your reaction weird and when called you ought on your previous games you looked like caught scum and are going to do nothing but make snarky potshots from the side and push on an easy target.

there is not 1 single thing that is town about this post, there is no thought just snark aimed at dunn which is a way to discredit him and it looks like you are waiting to see where town will go wrt him cos town!you knows what town paranoia looks like. don't make me post that dreadful pirate speak post again. I mean are you gonna go back to that trajectory of dunn and dreamz are SCUM TOGETHER???? AND THAT THEY CONCOCTED THIS ENTIRE PLAN WITH THEIR WILY WAYS IN ORDER TO HOODWINK TOWN TO THE END OF THE GAME??? I am sure they are flattered that you think that they cld pull it off but I doubt that is what either of them are doing.

and you wld have to be blind not to have seen a connection the between duun/dreamz with the obvs broadcasting of what they were doing I mean I mentioned it, sad mentioned it, and a cple of other pple mentioned it was impossible to miss.

I think you are scum. it is just a matter of trying to figure out a way to get other pple to see it which will not be easy.

[pirate mollie]

@ camn

so if you think that spyrella is scum then why are you not voting him?

infinity looks like lost town. I don't think that he wld go "hur dur, I am so lost" on d1 knowing how much attention he wld attract. that is the kind of thing you save until d3 or mylo after town has lynched town after and you have a legit way of saying that based on with the info that is in the thread you don't know who is scum.

[Kagami]

I want to doubly emphasize that if Town caused the day to end, that needs to be claimed.

[Dunnstral]

Kagami, what do you think of drealmerz?
Rc, I have no connwction to Nahdia

[Infinity 324]

Staeg
SpyreX

RedCoyote
pirate mollie
camntsuki (camn + Katsuki)
drealmerz7
Nahdia

Papa Zito (?)

Kagami

Dunnstral
Nachomamma8

Not a bad amount of narrowing here.

Dunn's weird theory about nacho and the orb crumbs actually bumps him up to null. It doesn't seem like something scum!dunn would bother with. @dunn: You didn't answer how the crumb makes dreal town

Staeg and spyrex I'll need to ISO again. I remember some frustration from spyre so I want to look into it instead of just skimming it and see if I think it was genuine. Staeg I barely remember at all.

Nacho still could easily be town or scum but gut says slightly more likely to be scum.

My read on zito obviously depends on what he claims...lynchproof seems town or 3p though.

Dreal and camn would be my weakest townreads.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think he has a reason to reveal the orb as scum

[Dunnstral]

Dunn's weird theory about nacho and the orb crumbs actually bumps him up to null. It doesn't seem like something scum!dunn would bother with

Since when did you ever suspect me?

[Infinity 324]

Since most of d1

And what if scum!dreal doesn't have the orb but knows about it and is crumbing it to throw people off or to look town?

[pirate mollie]

infinity why are you not reading my posts

[Dunnstral]

And what if scum!dreal doesn't have the orb but knows about it and is crumbing it to throw people off or to look town?

I think that is less likely. Though possible, I guess.

[Infinity 324]

[quote="In post 1136, pirate mollie"]infinity why are you not reading my posts[/quote

I'm reading your posts mollie. I'm just trying to get more into this game and I can't address everything.

If you want me to go through your nacho case I will but it seems to me that there's a lot of meta stuff which is not really convincing to me as I haven't seen it for myself.

[SpyreX]

Mollie it comes back to if nacho is scum and that was on purpose why sad kill

[Dunnstral]

Why does Nacho scum make SAD kill unlikely?

[SpyreX]

Under the guise of hes trying to get all the sweet orb loot?

[Dunnstral]

But the fragments can be traded, which is what I led them to believe we'd be doing.

[SpyreX]

I'm tired so I'm not explaining myself well
If the idea is nacho scum a.)knows about the fragments and b.)wants said fragments and that is why he suspected that grouping then why not kill in thar group. Cause even if you guys could shuffle that wouldn't mean you would.

This is all predicated on me not somehow killing sad mind you

[pirate mollie]

guys guys guys

there is an easy way to keep track of the orbs and to don't even have to focus on it.

n0

dunn had a fire orb
kagami had an earth orb

the orbs seem to be divided up into categories of fire/south, north/earth and while no1 has revealed it yet I am willing to bet that air/east and water/west in accordance with native american mysticism and neo-paganism. I am guessing that is where fate is pulling from.

on d2 the orb holders from n1 reveal whom they gave it to or some1 can claim it. this will give town an ability to track pple's reads and whether or not there is an organic progression in their reads or whether they are coming out of the blue.

that way you can track the orbs through info reveal and when some1 is nked their flip will give a way to track what element orb are in play and you will know which 1s are missing.

this is not to take the place of good ol' fashion scumhunting

it will merely be a tool to help as far as tracking pple's reads. its a way of giving scum less room to hide.

it might be a red herring that is why the orbs shld not be focused on but rather the focus is on reads and reasons for why they did the action that they did.

it is what we do with pr's, we get their actions and see if they make sense as town.

[Infinity 324]

Ok I like that idea

[pirate mollie]

Under the guise of hes trying to get all the sweet orb loot?

sad was suspecting nacho and I wld have gone with it if zito had shown up. there is the distinct possibility that scum have 1 and it wld be easier to gain trust from the town players who had them in order to get all of them.

[Dunnstral]

I guess Kagami and I had differing ideas.

[pirate mollie]

I guess Kagami and I had differing ideas.

how so

[Fate]

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